Re: FTP client for G5 system 10.4
if anyone wants to try something else, there's yummy ftp http://www.yummysoftware.com/download it runs from 10.4 and up /tina -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: no fast internet on my g-macs?
Den Lørdag, 1/2 2014, 01:02, Manoah F. Adams skrev: On Jan 17, 2014, at 05:26 , t...@nehaia.dk wrote: hi all, I can't get more than 14 Mbit from my 50 Mbit connection Hi, I don't really have any idea where your bottleneck is, but I can assure you it is nothing intrinsic in your computer [snip] Point 2: I think somebody might have been pulling your leg when reporting the Windows connection speed. no pulling legs, I was present, seeing it with my own eyes What's the likelihood that you're getting 50 Mbits ? ... ( Unless you have a VDSL line or the like ) Point 3: Testing service... Try other testing services too, such as http://www.scanmyspeed.com/. [hey you never know, M.S. might have 'influenced' some of them]. By the way, I don't think you have mentioned thus far what your internet connection type is (Cable, DSL, etc.). it's a fiberconnection 50/50 /tina -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no fast internet on my g-macs?
Den Fredag, 17/1 2014, 08:43, Bruce Johnson skrev: On Jan 17, 2014, at 11:13 AM, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: hello again, I see I forgot to mention that all tests were done wired directly to the box on the wall and at one of those online places like speedtest.net - they all use the ookla-thingy it's consistent, I never ever get more than 14 mbit on both macs - haven't tried them outside the house also, as I went from a 6/6 connection, I expected that everything would almost fly, but it doesn't just checked at download from macupdate right now, which ran at some 600 KB... the tech guy who installed the fiber tested 50/50 on his brand new windows laptop, and seconds after he left, I plugged the powerbook in and tested 14/11, and it's been like that ever since yesterday a friend with an older windows laptop tested 50/26 I'm so disappointed :-( What speed does the router talk to your Mac at? It will be (probably) 100mbit or even gigabit Ethernet. You might have some communications issues between the router and the mac. You can go to System prefs Networking and in the advanced section of the ethernet, Look in the Hardware tab (may be different in 10.4 and 10.5, but on my system it has the following: Configure: Manually or Automatically Speed: Autoselect, 10baseT, 100baseT, 1000BaseT Duplex: Full-duplex, full-duplex Flow Control, maybe Half-duplex (mine doesn't show that, but it may not be relevant under gigabit) MTU: Standard or Çustom. You might be having issues with speed and duplexing. Try setting those manually. been there, done that - no change Supposedly there are ways to set your MTU for better performance with specific networking setups, and you might be able to fix something like that, but I don't have any direct experience. But hey, you're paying for this service, and you're not getting it, get them in to see what's happening with your equipment, and don't take 'Oh it's a Mac' for an answer. well, they specify in the support section that I should use a newer computer when testing for speed I'm quite sure I don't get anywhere with them thanks /tina -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no fast internet on my g-macs?
Den Fredag, 17/1 2014, 10:29, Kris Tilford skrev: On Jan 17, 2014, at 7:26 AM, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: any ideas out there? This article has some info on tweaking OS X network connections: http://rolande.wordpress.com/2010/12/30/performance-tuning-the-network-stack-on-mac-osx-10-6/ In the link to the older Wayback Machine archive, they're specifically talking about older PPC Macs running 10.4 10.5, and there seems to be a limitation under default settings that's near your 14 Mbps limit. By adjusting two parameter settings they up it to 35 Mbps. I remember when I was running PPC Macs I always used some Terminal script to optimize my network settings and it really had a large effect. I can't remember the name of what I used, but it worked. thanks, but that's a bit too much for me I tried the apple broadband tuner, that didn't help either frustrating! and s wierd that the system limits the hardware thanks all for trying /tina -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
no fast internet on my g-macs?
hi all, I can't get more than 14 Mbit from my 50 Mbit connection the line is tested with two different windows machines that get the 50 Mbit fine my 17 powerbook g4 ti running 10.4.11, and my husbands white g5 imac running 10.5.8 both get only 14 Mbit the powerbook has a 10/100 ethernet card and it is set to full duplex I find this soo strange any ideas out there? tia /tina -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no fast internet on my g-macs?
Den Fredag, 17/1 2014, 02:55, Nestamicky skrev: On 14-01-17 6:26 AM, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: hi all, I can't get more than 14 Mbit from my 50 Mbit connection the line is tested with two different windows machines that get the 50 Mbit fine my 17 powerbook g4 ti running 10.4.11, and my husbands white g5 imac running 10.5.8 both get only 14 Mbit the powerbook has a 10/100 ethernet card and it is set to full duplex I find this soo strange any ideas out there? tia /tina Hi /Tina, Are we talking wired or wireless connections. If wireless, would you consider resetting your wireless network settings, including keychains? This is presuming you made recent changes to your router. That the speed on both machines is the same, would suggest that the issue, the bottleneck is on your router. It's indeed strange that both machines will trottle at the same speed. If you have another router at home, I'd suggest you dig that out and try it. Alternatively, if you can bypass your router, that might be good. I'm willing to wager a few krone that the problem is the router. Cheers hello again, I see I forgot to mention that all tests were done wired directly to the box on the wall and at one of those online places like speedtest.net - they all use the ookla-thingy it's consistent, I never ever get more than 14 mbit on both macs - haven't tried them outside the house also, as I went from a 6/6 connection, I expected that everything would almost fly, but it doesn't just checked at download from macupdate right now, which ran at some 600 KB... the tech guy who installed the fiber tested 50/50 on his brand new windows laptop, and seconds after he left, I plugged the powerbook in and tested 14/11, and it's been like that ever since yesterday a friend with an older windows laptop tested 50/26 I'm so disappointed :-( tia /tina -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Browser g4
Den Onsdag, 8/1 2014, 02:12, Geke skrev: Now it seems adobe flash player is the problem. i cant open itunes or play music from G4. That's right, Ten4Fox doesn't support plugins. From their wiki: http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/wiki/PluginsNoLongerSupported --- [snip] not supported is right, but it can work if you're willing to take the risks I ran the old version, where you could opt in up until about a month ago, but finally had to give in because of an update to a support system that wouldn't let me in so I finally updated to 17.0.11 and was happy to find that the opt in seems to still work just fine, I didn't do anything at all - had some other problems and had to trash a settings file, but that was it it works with both flash and shockwave never could get java to work in version 7, haven't tried in this version yet I wonder if the problem is somewhere else though, installing a new browser shouldn't affect itunes, should it? /tina -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Forums
Den Tirsdag, 26/3 2013, 12:37, Koralatov skrev: On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 15:39, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: that said, yes, this is worrying, and a forum, or a bunch of fora will never ever work as fluent and convinient as the mail lists, and I also miss an explantion about that No, they won't. It also appears that uptake has been minimal -- the lists continue to tick along as always, but there have been no posts to the new fora in over a week. That doesn't really bode well for their future. Did we ever get an answer as to what will be happening to the list? As far as I can see, we haven't. there has been some replies to the comments on this page: http://lowendmac.com/2013/welcome-to-wordpress/ it seems that so far there's no need to worry too much /tina -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Forums
Den Fredag, 15/3 2013, 02:53, Dan skrev: On 13 Mar, Dan Knight blerted: We've started the process of migrating to WordPress forums, and today I'm announcing that the Power Macs (G3-5) forum is ready to go. Please go to \url\ and create a login ID and password so you can participate. Apropos to what? What is the point of this transition? for the website, you can read dan's own words about it here: http://lowendmac.com/2013/welcome-to-wordpress/ for the lists - I have no idea, and no, I don't like it either As I replied to Dan's blert on the iMac List, and got NO response: The ppc page takes about 45 secs to load (Safari, Leopard, QuickSilver, with a 15/5 fiber connection). The right hand column - mostly ads, keeps flashing then redrawing, making the whole page distractingly unreadable. Looks like this is site-wide? tenfourfox 7, pb 1ghz g4, tiger - nothing takes 45 seconds to load on a much slower connection. everythings smooth, fast loading and nothing flashing or redrawing login, registration and posting works just fine even with full noscript turned on only thing I can't get to work (or find) is to change the profile pic that said, yes, this is worrying, and a forum, or a bunch of fora will never ever work as fluent and convinient as the mail lists, and I also miss an explantion about that /tina -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Forums
Den Onsdag, 13/3 2013, 09:23, Bob Johnson skrev: Dan, Are these Wordpress forums email lists, or accessible only via web browser? I have to say that I am unlikely to go to a web only forum very often, I like the old school mailing list way of doing things. Bob from the welcome message in the intel imac group: I just want to take a moment to welcome you to the first of our WordPress-based forums, which will replace the Google Groups that we’ve used for years. You’ll be able to use the same ID and password to log into Low End Mac and the forums – and you should even be able to do that using your Facebook, Twitter, or several other social networking IDs. so, sadly, it seems we're at the end of things as we knew them :-( /tina -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Forums
Den Torsdag, 14/3 2013, 02:42, Valter Prahlad skrev: Il giorno 14/03/13 02.06, t...@nehaia.dk ha scritto: I can't say I like this change, but I can definetly understand that a cms is needed to keep things alive I'm no expert, but I've been using mailing lists for years and years, and nobody had complaints about them. So, what's up? :-) Why do we need a CMS to keep things alive? (especially if most members are complaining about this switch) the cms is for the website, you can read dan's own words about that part here: http://lowendmac.com/2013/welcome-to-wordpress/ as for mailing lists, I prefer them over a forum too. I haven't tried running a list on google, so I don't know the reason for migrating to fora instead but I do know something about running listservers and that's not for kids these days, I can assure you I hope it's not about Facebook or anything social networks... because I honestly, sincerely, positively despise and avoid them as much as I can. I sincerely agree, I don't have a facebook or linked in or... account. never will either I hope though that other old timers, like myself, will eventually migrate over - it would be so sad if these communities died out just because we'll have to adjust to new ways I know I won't. I'm worried that this will be then end for a lot of old timers - on the other hand, there were also a lot of fuzz when we migrated to google and when we migrated from whereever it was that we resided before. there always is, when things change. personally I'm all for getting away from google, but I'd definetly prefer another listserv solution As a matter of fact, I'm not a Low-End-Mac user anymore... I'm a happy owner of an Intel iMac. But I gladly kept here because I like reading about PPC Macs, and I like helping fellow Mac users when I can. I am a lowend user, and a short trip over to the new forum revealed that I can use the fora on my powerbook g4 with 10.4.11 and tenfourfox 7.0 But if I'd have to actively go to a website and browse posts... I just will not. Too much of a hassle and, frankly, I see no reason why. yup, it's a hassle, and I'll probably find it hard to find the time to do so myself, even if I want to. I see a real danger that a lot of people will only find their way over there, when they encounter problems, and that a lot of the knowledgeable people will disappear Mailing lists are simple, fast and effective. And I'm all for KISS. yes they are - on the recieving end /tina -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: US Java alert?
Den Onsdag, 30/1 2013, 04:36, Dan skrev: At 8:14 PM -0500 01/29/2013, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Turn off the Java Plug in and experiment. You tell me if it is a Java script or Java or any other distinction you want to make. I turned off the Java Plug in weeks ago and found online transactions I could not do. And this is after installation of a Java script blocker months before that which allowed the same forms to be active. Please give us a specific example of such a page. - Dan. well, not so relevant for most people on this list but... all online banking and all official websites in denmark uses a common login system based on java - esay ID they call it yes, banking, tax, all sorts of personal and business registration - even the state lotto so there you have it - dumb as h..., but that's what they've done /tina -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: imac g5 help needed asap
Den Torsdag, 6/12 2012, 02:05, Valter Prahlad skrev: Il giorno 06/12/12 01:57, t...@nehaia.dk ha scritto: i had one behave exactly like this when I tried to boot it from a cd, and with no memory and harddrive installed AFAIK, with no memory the Mac should beep one time (see http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1547 ) and do not chime (like the OP's Mac did). BTW, did you think your Mac could boot without memory? :-) he-he, no I didn't think so - I didn't know I got it for free with the message that the power supply was dead and the harddrive was pulled so, after replacing the power supply, I obviously thought I could boot it from a system dvd sorry, I can't remember if there were beeps or chimes, but the fans came on full speed and scared the s... out of me /tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: imac g5 help needed asap
Den Tirsdag, 4/12 2012, 09:43, jayson skinner skrev: i just bought a used 2004 imac g5 desktop and i dont know what to do. hears my problem. when i plug the power, keyboard and mouse in and press the power button the screen will either start up with the chime but stay black. you can kinda, almost not at all, hear something getting power to it. after about a minute or so you can hear that the fans have started up and are at full speed. the mouse will light up but the keyboard wont. idk what to do. i just bought this from a friends friend that said it just needs an os for it, but idk but any and all help will be greatly appriciated. thanks FWIW ? i had one behave exactly like this when I tried to boot it from a cd, and with no memory and harddrive installed good luck /tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: imac g5 help needed asap
Den Torsdag, 6/12 2012, 01:57, t...@nehaia.dk skrev: Den Tirsdag, 4/12 2012, 09:43, jayson skinner skrev: i just bought a used 2004 imac g5 desktop and i dont know what to do. hears my problem. when i plug the power, keyboard and mouse in and press the power button the screen will either start up with the chime but stay black. you can kinda, almost not at all, hear something getting power to it. after about a minute or so you can hear that the fans have started up and are at full speed. the mouse will light up but the keyboard wont. idk what to do. i just bought this from a friends friend that said it just needs an os for it, but idk but any and all help will be greatly appriciated. thanks FWIW ? i had one behave exactly like this when I tried to boot it from a cd, and with no memory and harddrive installed good luck /tina correstion: tried to boot from a dvd -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Eudora replacement
Den Søndag, 22/7 2012, 04:03, Stephen E. Bodnar skrev: Well, count me in but I'm not joining Facebook just to vote. Stephen me too /tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DVD won't eject
Den Torsdag, 12/7 2012, 05:36, Gary D. skrev: Help! Can't get a DVD to eject. Tried the usual - mouse button held on startup, Toast Titatium 11 crashes instead of ejecting, etc. Promised a friend to convert and copy a camera video by tomorrow! Any ideas? (Macmini3,1 - early 2009 running 10.6.8). turn it upside down and press the eject button - maybe shake it gently too that's what worked on my powerbook recently - after trying all other methods and suggestions I could find and think of hth /tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Questions About New Spam Concerns
Den Lørdag, 23/6 2012, 01:02, glen skrev: My concern is security. If some spammer has access to my address book and can send spam spoofed from friends and associates' email address what else do they know; SS numbers, CC numbers, bank accounts, passwords??? Dan and Doug, thanks for you help and I will definitely change many passwords. --glen please do remember to tell your clients to change their passwords too on the mail servers I'm working with, the most frequent reason for out going spam is caused by peoles accounts have been taken over by spammer due to weak passwords /tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mailplane and Google.com kaput
Den Fredag, 8/6 2012, 01:09, dan auerbach skrev: As I said in my post, I was using Safari (5.0.6) and Firefox (3.6.28). Sea Monkey 2.0 worked to go to gmail website but very slowly. Any other website that I go to gives no problem in any and all of the above browsers. I created a new user as suggested and Safari still did not go to google, gmail but did work for other sites. The other suggestion, download TenFourFox latest version did work! I can navagate to gmail and search with google, this in my regular user file. I did a safe restart and also used DiskWarrior. No help for Safari or Firefox so I made TenFourFox my default browser. I think that it must be something with Google because 3 different apps are affected: Mailplane, Safari and Firefox. Thanks for the help, it is much appreciated. If there are any other thoughts on this... no thoughts really, sorry but google.com also works fine with safari on this pb g4 search, google+ and google mail all seems to function as normal, only thing is that sometimes it seems to take like forever to load the pages the first time seen that on many other pages with safari - which is why I don't use it /tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mailplane and Google.com kaput
Den Onsdag, 6/6 2012, 10:32, Cameron Kaiser skrev: As of today, I can no longer open Mailplane or open Google . com from any browser on my 17 G4 PB. I'm using the last possible upgrade, OS 10.5.8. All other websites that I browse are available except, of course, Facebook which my wife used. In order to get any gmail on that computer I would have to use Mail to pull it in_ but I can no longer do Google searches on that machine. Does anyone know if Google just upgraded like Facebook recently did and thus close us out? TenFourFox as of this AM was browsing and searching Google fine. Perhaps it was a glitch in your upstream? second that, just now google com is working just fine w tenfourfox 7.0 on this 17 pb g4 running 10.4.11 /tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 8.6 submenu limit? Other questions.
On 2012/02/14 01:08, Joshua Juran so eloquently wrote: The great thing about standards is... you can always ignore them and do it your own way! That is an excellent idea Joshua, why didn't I think of that?!?!?! Tell you what, you go ahead and remove all standards from your life then let us know how it goes. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 8.6 submenu limit? Other questions.
On 2012/02/13 02:48, Josh Juran so eloquently wrote: Please don't Reply to send an unrelated message -- it hijacks the thread. Also, consider posting your questions to the macos9 mailing list instead. Word. I've gotten to the point that I delete hijacked threads because when I collapse the conversations I can't tell what is where. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 8.6 submenu limit? Other questions.
On 2012/02/13 08:23, Barry Levine so eloquently wrote: I changed the subject line. That always has seemed to start a new thread. There is a number in the headers that determines what thread a message belongs to, what the subject line contains is irrelevant. Not to pick on you in particular but it's happening more and more with each passing month. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PowerMac G5 not waking from sleep?
On 2012/02/13 06:02, Mark Langthorne so eloquently wrote: Every time I put the Mac to sleep it cuts out when waking. Then I have to unplug it let it stand awhile then reboot it. Anybody have any ideas I have tried different configurations of ram to see if that was the issue but the same thing happens. This all started when I removed the CD drives IDE cable when the Mac was switched on. Knowing the configuration, ie model, OS, etc… will allow list members to give informed advice rather than wild guesses. At this point my best guess would be to reset the pram/nvram. My iMac's display would not wake from sleep when I first got it, turned out to be bad ROM (?) flashed to the logic board. Given how old the G5s are I doubt that is your issue unless someone has recently monkeyed with it. If there is no fix for this is there away to disable the sleep option all together so I don't sleep the Mac by mistake. Sleep is controlled in the Energy Saver preference pane, you can disable it there. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: adding memory to iMac G4
On 2012/02/12 08:24, QuoVadis so eloquently wrote: Hello Tina, Does the USB2.0 version use DDR memory, instead of SD-RAM of the USB 1.1 version? If so, then the topic starter has more options indeed. I'm not sure how pricey a 1GB DDR SO-DIMM is going to be.. Greetings, Eelco. Thanks for the question, looking closer at the G4 iMacs I see that it isn't just the USB 2 models that have an actual 2GB limit. According to Mactracker: 1. The original G4 iMac, was produced Jan 02 - Feb 03. It uses (1) PC133 144 pin SO-DIMM and (1) PC133 168 pin SDRAM for a maximum of 1GB RAM total. 2. Was produced Feb 03 - Sep 03. The 15 800MHz model uses the same RAM as V1 above, with the same 1GB limit. 3. Was also produced Feb 03 - Sep 03. The 17 1GHz model, uses (1) PC2100 200 pin SO-DIMM and (1) PC-2100 184 pin SDRAM. Apple lists the memory limit at 1GB but the actual limit is 2GB. 4. The USB 2 model was produced Sep 03 (Nov 03 for the 20 model) - Jul 04. It uses (1) PC2700 200 pin SO-DIMM and (1) PC-2700 184 pin SDRAM. In case anyone is wondering why Apple listed some G4 iMacs at 1GB maximum but in reality 2GB is the maximum I think originally each type of RAM was only available up to 512MB per stick for the 1GB limit, but in time higher density 1GB sticks became available and Apple didn't change their specs, maybe to avoid support liability. Then again I could be completely wrong. ;-) In all of the above the SO-DIMM is the user (easily) accessible memory and the SDRAM is the factory (know how to replace thermal paste) memory. These iMacs do not support DDR, and I believe that the memory sticks do not have to be of the same capacity. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Installing a replacement internal speaker in a G4 mdd Tower
On 2012/02/11 14:40, Dan so eloquently wrote: At 4:54 PM -0800 2/8/2012, Robert Lee wrote: I'm trying to install a new replacement internal speaker and I'm having second thoughts about doing it myself. I can't even see where it connects to the motherboard. Me being visually impaired has some to do with it but it's initial installation was well done at the time of it's manufacture. Any one have a guide or know where one is posted? Google is your friend. powermac replace speaker finds quite a bit. Assuming that the speaker is installed in a manner similar to a PM G5 or MP (I've never owned an MDD), an option would be to leave the logic board alone, clipping soldering the speaker wires instead. I'm not advocating this method, just suggesting an alternative for you to consider. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: adding memory to iMac G4
On 2012/02/11 12:12, QuoVadis so eloquently wrote: One gigabyte of memory is the maximum you can get in an iMac G4, by the way. Just to be clear, the first G4 iMacs have a memory limit of 1GB. The later USB 2 iMac G4s are rated at 1GB of memory by Apple but in reality can use 2GB as I have in mine (below). Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 issues
On 2012/02/11 14:41, Mark Langthorne so eloquently wrote: Its a setting in the Click to Flash plug in not in YouTube and I think its Safari only. There are two Click to Flash plug-ins, one is indeed a Safari plug-in and the other that gets installed in the internet plug-ins folder works for all WebKit browsers - Safari, OmniWeb, iCab, etc... Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 issues
On 2012/02/05 12:58, Kris Tilford so eloquently wrote: I don't know? On LEM-Swap there are three power supplies available right now for only $30 each, buy one NOW before they're gone!!!: http://groups.google.com/group/lemswap/browse_thread/thread/c733ebfe5d50ddae?hl=en Wow, it's magic. If I ask about an A1138 logic board will three of them magically show up on the swap list too? Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: new to the MAC universe.
On 2012/02/03 09:22, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: There were no dual-core PowerPC cpus ever used in Macs Except this one: PROCESSOR Processor PowerPC 970MP (G5) Processor Speed 2.0, 2.3, or dual 2.5 GHz Number of Cores 2 per processor Cache 64K (instruction), 32K (data) L1, 1MB L2 per core System Bus 1.0, 1.15, or dual 1.25 GHz For accuracy's sake, not to nit-pick. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: new to the MAC universe.
On 2012/02/02 05:53, JoeTaxpayer so eloquently wrote: Tina, I do know, the hard way. Jane 2.0 and I are at the mall, and she asks to go to the mac store. You know where that got me.:) Smart lady! :) Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: new to the MAC universe.
MAC = Media Access Control Mac = PC sold by Apple M‧A‧C = Cosmetics line Mix them up and there's no telling what you'll get. ;-) Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: ie 5.0
Den Lørdag, 14/1 2012, 07:21, Kris Tilford skrev: On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:55 AM, Charles Lenington wrote: Anyone still have 5.0 easy to find? Easiest likely solution: SafariPreferencesAdvanced Tab Check box Show Develop menu in menu bar Develop menuUser AgentIE Explorer x.x Once you set Safari to IE Explorer it should work. you might also want to try icab - icab.de I'm using it for my online bank which will not accept safari no matter what I set the identity icab set to firefox works like a charm... /tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 quad
On 2012/01/14 11:17, Kris Tilford so eloquently wrote: When Apple replaces a motherboard they make the serial # match Not always. I purchased a 'refurb' iMac G4 that initially had a matching SN, but it (along with others like it) had a problem with some flashed code that kept the display from waking from sleep. Apple fixed it, but then it had no electronic SN at all - just a decal on the inside of the ODD door. I fought tooth and nail with Apple about giving it a serial number that can't be just peeled off but they refused, even saying it was impossible (which I doubt). Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 or G5?
On 2012/01/10 13:36, John Carmonne so eloquently wrote: On Jan 10, 2012, at 11:40 AM, JoeTaxpayer wrote: What's going on in that Mac, John? Dual 1.25 4 HDD's, 2 optical's burning at the same time.:-) and other stuff. Now that's a PPC Mac being put to good use, it's nice to see one being so well utilized. OP when my G5 DP died and Apple gave me this MP I did a comparison - the MP does twice the work at half the juice of my G5 DP. I know people that run BOINC on their G5s but they have to shut them down in the summer, they just put out too much heat. And that heat is wasted electricity. The G5 architecture never got small enough to be energy efficient. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: going to an Intel iMac
On 2012/01/07 09:54, Stephen E. Bodnar so eloquently wrote: Very well said. Having done this very same migration numerous times, there is one gotcha - let Migration Assistant create the new user on the new (target) machine and not update an existing account. Otherwise, weird things happen with permissions. Good to know, thank you Stephen. This explains my less than satisfactory experience with Migration Assistant. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On 2012/01/06 19:00, Mel so eloquently wrote: How does one enable plugins on TFF so that flash will work? Type about:config in the address bar, without the quotes, and Enter; then search for flash. I don't remember what the relevant lines are but it's pretty straightforward to enable plugins. I believe the developer documented the process somewhere on the 'net, a google search may return that result. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firewire HD Partition is not accessible. Very strange.
On 2012/01/03 13:07, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Tina K. wrote: But is it not better to run fsck from SU or a different drive/partition/disc? It makes no difference here. The key is having access to the entire volume. Point taken, thank you Bruce. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firewire HD Partition is not accessible. Very strange.
On 2012/01/03 09:16, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: On Jan 2, 2012, at 9:00 PM, Tina K. wrote: It seems odd that two different machines are experiencing the same condition, have you done any maintenance on them recently? Perhaps the free Applejack or the very un-free DiskWarrior could be of help. Applejack won't help with an external drive Thanks, sometimes I forget that external HDDs aren't supported for SMART or Applejack. and it and Disk Warrior do different things. DW fixes corrupted volume directories. That's all it does, but it does that one thing very well. I suggested both because the cause is unknown. DW is probably more likely to fix it, but running fsck from Open Firmware instead of the boot drive, and possibly permissions repair, might be helpful. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firewire HD Partition is not accessible. Very strange.
On 2012/01/03 12:12, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: On Jan 3, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Tina K. wrote: DW is probably more likely to fix it, but running fsck from Open Firmware instead of the boot drive, and possibly permissions repair, might be helpful. Applejack doesn't run fsck from Open Firmware, but from single-user mode, and the results of running fsck and Disk Utility are indistinguishable, because what DU is doing is running fsck under the GUI. Yes, I got mixed up again. Sometimes my brain can't distinguish OF from SU. But is it not better to run fsck from SU or a different drive/partition/disc? Like testing RAM in SU rather than the boot volume? Permissions repair will do nothing whatsoever for this issue, since that applies to executable files only. Only things listed in /Library/Reciepts will ever figure into Permissions repair. (and not all of those...PR only ever looks at Apple-supplied files.) I'm generally hesitant to recommend PR but it is possible some important file somewhere has incorrect permissions and is gumming up the works. Can't hurt anyway, better to try every non-destructive possibility before taking more drastic measures. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How do I remove an OS from a computer?
On 2012/01/02 17:11, Valter Prahlad so eloquently wrote: Il giorno 2-01-2012 23:54, cheryl ha scritto: I have two old Macs that I want to wipe the data from. Can I do that myself? Do you mean erasing the whole drive, or just the user's data? In other words: do you want an empty drive, or a working Mac (booting and with apps) but without any of your data left? Giving that the subject line is: How do I remove an *OS* from a computer, I think it's pretty plain. The earlier answer about booting from an install disc, launching Disk Utility, clicking on the desired drive, then erase, and then going into Security Options... and choosing how many times you want it overwritten, is the answer you're looking for. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firewire HD Partition is not accessible. Very strange.
On 2012/01/02 20:53, Kevin so eloquently wrote: Recently I have not been able to access a partition on a Firewire hard drive. When I click on the icon for the partition on my desktop or in the devices list in the sidebar of the Finder, the Finder seems to blink and all of the icons on the desktop as well as the finder bar up top all disappear for a second and then comeback leaving me without a way to browse the items on that partition. The 2 other partitions of the drive are just fine. I canot open files within a program to acces the drive either, say open up Text Edit and click on that drive to chose a file it simply crashes the application instantly. I can see the drive in Disk Utility and System Profiler. Disk Utility says it is fine when I repair it. I've restarted, shutdown, disconnected and turned on and off the FW drive. Started with the drive on and connected. Started up in Safe mode. Reset PRAM. Nothing. Repaired permissions on the Mac HD, deleted com.apple.finder.plist and still nothing. The machine is a 2010 Intel Core 2 Duo Mac Mini running SL 10.6.8 8GB RAM. It also afects my 17 1.5Ghz AL G4 Powerbook running Tiger 10.4.11 with 2 GB RAM. On that machine it actually makes the Finder Icon and title bar blink infinitely without letting me do anything except disconnect the drive after which all is well. The drive is a 500GB Seagate 7200 rpm OWC Mercury On The Go 2.5 ATA in a FW800/USB2 enclosure connected via FW800. There are 3 180GB partitions. The drive is 2 years old. I'll be contacting OWC in the morning. It seems odd that two different machines are experiencing the same condition, have you done any maintenance on them recently? Perhaps the free Applejack or the very un-free DiskWarrior could be of help. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How do I block outgoing connections in Safari?
On 2011/12/30 16:15, dc so eloquently wrote: After reading over one of the topics in this list I installed Private Eye. What a mistake! Now I'm paranoid! There are scores of outgoing connections, including amazonaws.com. How do I disable or remove them? ClamAV shows the system is clean but there seems to be a lot of unauthorized activity going on. The bigger concern probably isn't who you browser is contacting but instead rogue process's. If you see Nefarious Application That Steals Your Identity or some other app you don't recognize connecting to amazonaws or akama that is when you need to worry. Of course this requires becoming familiar with the names of normal system process' because at first they might seem to be unknown. In this regard Google is your friend, when I see a process that I haven't seen before, I look it up first and so far every time there have been other people asking about the same process's. That's not to say that Safari can't be made to do bad things, but it's not very likely. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Best Linux for a BW G3?
On 2011/12/24 13:15, Barry Levine so eloquently wrote: My son the Linux maven, has been trying various distros on a BW G3. His main complaint has been a problem with video card driver functionality (he says it's a Rage 128 card). Any wisdom here for him? There's a lot of good support in the Apple section of the Ubuntu forums. http://ubuntuforums.org/ Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: My subscription is screwed up.
On 2011/12/24 13:22, Dan so eloquently wrote: At 3:08 PM -0500 12/24/2011, Barry Levine wrote: change settings to the digest version. To be honest, I really wish there was a way to kill off the digesting completely. Data-wise, it saves very little. It delays sending of messages so your (generic) replies are out of sync with other replies. And it totally breaks threading - few people remember to fix the subject field and it never propagates reference headers. My sentiments exactly. That, and thread hijacking. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
USB 3 Devices on USB 2 Ports
Mac OS X Hints has a blurb today about using USB 3 Devices on your USB 2 equipped Mac for faster data transfers: http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20111217160646567 Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sharing Printer and Public Folder From G-4 to Win 7
On 2011/12/18 10:43, Dennis Myhand so eloquently wrote: I am trying to share my printer and public folder from a G-4 DA running 10.4 to a windows 7 machine. The windows 7 machine lied and said the printer installed but nothing prints. I cannot see the public folder on the Mac. I went into system preferences and turned these on. What exactly did you turn on? Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sharing Printer and Public Folder From G-4 to Win 7
On 2011/12/19 10:48, Dennis Myhand so eloquently wrote: On 12/19/2011 11:39 AM, Tina K. wrote: On 2011/12/18 10:43, Dennis Myhand so eloquently wrote: I am trying to share my printer and public folder from a G-4 DA running 10.4 to a windows 7 machine. The windows 7 machine lied and said the printer installed but nothing prints. I cannot see the public folder on the Mac. I went into system preferences and turned these on. What exactly did you turn on? Printer sharing and personal file sharing. That *should* be all you need but I've had problems remote accessing Macs running Tiger in the past. Sometimes enabling another service (I don't remember which one) has gotten it working for me. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Strange fan issue with G5 + Leopard
On 2011/12/09 06:30, Nick Adams so eloquently wrote: Sorry about not changing the subject, an oversight on my part. Actually it's better to start a new subject rather than changing the subject - I have Strange fan issue with G5 + Leopard 68 pin vs 50 pin SCSI HD? and Question re failing HD all grouped together in the same conversation. It gets hard to follow that way and I end up just deleting them. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PPC Flash Player UPDATE NEWS
On 2011/12/04 22:37, Kris Tilford so eloquently wrote: On Dec 4, 2011, at 11:09 PM, John Ruschmeyer wrote: According to the file, the Zip actually contains a copy of the last PPC-compatible version which has then been hacked to report a later version number as required for the Facebook test. I think the assumption here is that while sites may look for a later version, they really only use features from the older version. Thanks for the clarification. I don't care what version it is, as long as it works. I hope whomever was able to change the version # can continue to issue such hacked versions in the future so we won't have to deal with dreaded error messages Upgrade your Flash Player when there are no updates available, and flash videos refuse to play. If only said person could fix the security holes while they're at it.. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Entourage in MS 2008 Question
On 2011/12/03 21:03, Kris Tilford so eloquently wrote: On Dec 3, 2011, at 9:44 PM, DLC wrote: Someone recently tried to send me a .exe driver for my Win laptop. Have'm resend the driver compressed (.zip). And without exe in the file name. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Strange fan issue with G5 + Leopard
On 2011/12/01 14:41, Dan so eloquently wrote: At 9:41 PM +0100 12/1/2011, Mac User #330250 wrote: Might the issue be fixed if I clean out the dust, which I presume must be there after all these years (I didn't look too deep into it yet)? Yea. Crud is one of the biggest causes of heat build-up. Just be sure you don't dislodge any cards or cables while you're vaccming cleaning If you're going to vacuum the case, it can't hurt to ground it. Static isn't usually a problem, but when it is it can be a big problem. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites
On 2011/11/27 20:25, janespra...@comcast.net so eloquently wrote: 1. So, what brand would any of you suggest for an external drive? If you want a ready to go solution I recommend OWC's external drive enclosures. Personally I prefer to put my own together using enclosures that have Oxford firewire chips a drive of my choosing. I believe this method is also a little bit cheaper. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: External hard drive vs. online back up sites
On 2011/11/27 20:25, janespra...@comcast.net so eloquently wrote: 1. So, what brand would any of you suggest for an external drive? I should have mentioned that Western Digital's enterprise drives are warranted for 5 years and have a good reputation. They cost a bit more, but worth it in my mind. Also it is a good idea to maintain an incremental backup, a la Time Machine, for retrieving data that has been lost or corrupted; and a bootable backup with Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper! so you can get back up and running quickly in the event of a catastrophic failure. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: router question
On 2011/11/27 04:43, Lawrence David Eden so eloquently wrote: Many thanks to the mavens who offered great answers to my question. This Group is the best place to get answers quickly. And they're affordable too! Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: UPS
On 2011/11/27 08:01, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: Batterys of the kind used are generally available at places like Batteries Plus. Exactly what I was going to recommend. If the UPS is functional and the battery is accessible, there's not much point in getting a whole new UPS. Unless you need features or capacity that your current UPS does not have. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PCI Cards under OS X 10.5.8 vrs 10.4.11
On 2011/11/22 12:07, Bill Connelly so eloquently wrote: It is an M-Audio 2496 Audio PCI card, which I have not yet installed the drivers. Drivers do not work (very well) under 10.5.8, but supposedly will be fine under 10.4.11 My Revolution 5.1's drivers for 10.4 10.5 never did work quite right. They did work, but some options were greyed out, settings were forgotten, etc… I won't buy another M-Audio card for OS X without first researching other user's experiences with it. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: hands free video/audio communication
On 2011/11/18 14:33, Nesta Nesta so eloquently wrote: ...what happens when you turn on the music? Most decent VOX devices will have an adjustable threshold of how loud something has to be to trigger the VOX. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Fed up with Google changes on browsers in Tiger
On 2011/11/15 23:57, a1 so eloquently wrote: I am utterly fed up with what Google did to Reader, (snip) Software: I really, really need an RSS reader that will remain reliable with Tiger. I use Google Reader to Synch NetNewsWire MP PB and avoid the changes Google made to Reader, I don't even know what changed since I'm not using it on a browser. I would suggest that route for you but I think you'll need 10.5 Leopard to run a version of NetNewsWire that supports Reader. Other RSS apps have talked about adding Reader synch but I don't know if any of them ever actually did. But it might be worth browsing macupdate.com to see the offerings. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can't load youtube with certain browsers, others ok
On 2011/11/13 20:24, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: do you have Perian installed? About Perian aims to provide a single package for all your playback needs. It is a collection of QuickTime components incorporating several libraries: • libavcodec, from the ffmpeg project, along with code from the old FFusion component: Yes I do, but I don't see any reason why it would work with Chromium and not OmniWeb. Or Safari. Or iCab. All four are WebKit. And yes, I have tested them to be sure. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can't load youtube with certain browsers, others ok
On 2011/11/13 20:24, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: do you have Perian installed? About Perian aims to provide a single package for all your playback needs. It is a collection of QuickTime components incorporating several libraries: • libavcodec, from the ffmpeg project, along with code from the old FFusion component: Yes I do, but I don't see any reason why it would work with Chromium and not OmniWeb. Or Safari. Or iCab. All four are WebKit. And yes, I have tested them to be sure. Hopefully this will settle it once and for all. Type about:plugins in Chromium's address bar, hit enter, and you get this, among others: Flash - Version: 11.0.1.152 Shockwave Flash 11.0 r1 Name: Shockwave Flash Description:Shockwave Flash 11.0 r1 Version:11.0.1.152 Location: /Applications/3rdPartyApps/Internet/Browsers/Chromium.app/Contents/Versions/14.0.835.202/Chromium Framework.framework/Internet Plug-Ins/Flash Player Plugin for Chrome.plugin And no, I did not do a custom install into Chromium, I'm running it as downloaded from MacUpdate.com I hope to gawd that the list members can accept this and move on, rather than insisting that I don't know what the fsck I'm talking about. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can't load youtube with certain browsers, others ok
On 2011/11/09 15:43, Kris Tilford so eloquently wrote: AFAIK Chromium should have always required a Flash Player plugin. The integrated Flash Player plugin is included in Google Chrome browser, but the open source progenitor Chromium never had Flash capability, and IF you were able to view Flash video using Chromium you MUST have had a Flash Player Plugin installed - the installation is normally globally available for all browsers. Apparently Chromium does have Flash Player included, I don't have it installed and my other browsers won't play Flash content but Chromium does. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can't load youtube with certain browsers, others ok
On 2011/11/13 17:03, David W. Morris so eloquently wrote: Flash is hopefully on it's way out and will be replaced with html5. It is already happening on YouTube and other sites. I was thrilled when I heard Adobe was going to drop mobile Flash, hopefully desktop Flash will follow. It's *usually* not an issue for me since I got my Mac Pro, but I still feel the pain from watching Flash on G4s. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can't load youtube with certain browsers, others ok
On 2011/11/13 18:19, Kris Tilford so eloquently wrote: On Nov 13, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Tina K. wrote: Apparently Chromium does have Flash Player included, I don't have it installed and my other browsers won't play Flash content but Chromium does. I suspect you're misinterpreting streamed video? YouTube and many other video sites are in the process of conversion away from Flash and to HTML5. During this conversion, most video is available in both formats, and the specific format streamed to your computer is determined by the site dependent upon your browser. It's likely you're getting an HTML5 stream and thinking it's a Flash stream. All I'm saying is that the YouTube page I first loaded in OmniWeb said that I needed to install Flash 10 or higher, when I loaded the page in Chromium it just played. FWIW Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can't load youtube with certain browsers, others ok
On 2011/11/13 20:07, Dan so eloquently wrote: This link should suffice as a demo: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/610326/Handwriting%20Clock.swf Yes Chromium plays the file, no I do not have Flash Player installed - not in /Library/Internet Plug-Ins, not in ~/Library/Internet Plug-Ins, or even in /System/Library. Activity Monitor shows the process Shockwave Flash (Chromium Plug-In Host). I quit Chromium, deleted DirectorShockwave.plugin, and opened Chromium again. It still played the handwriting clock file. Don't know what else to say. FWIW, IMHO YMMV, yada yada yada, blah blah blah. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Can't load youtube with certain browsers, others ok
This is on my Mac Pro, below. I had been using Chromium for Flash sites so that I wouldn't have to install the Flash Player plug-in, but recently, about the time v14 came out, it has stopped loading the youtube page. The youtube logo comes up on the tab, but that's it - no parts of the page load that I can see. So I installed the Flash Player plug-in to go back to how I used to view Flash content. SeaMonkey, OmniWeb, and iCab will load youtube but Camino, Chromium, and Opera will not. Does anyone see a common thread here that I am missing? I should add that Safari works as well. I tested against a new, untouched account and had the same issue, as did my backup disk. Reinstalling SL fixed the issue, which is strange because it seems to have left everything intact - BOINC, LittleSnitch, etc... But it is good to know that a reinstall of SL is painless, unlike earlier versions of OS X. Tina -- Acceleron - HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr - iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm - PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia - Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can't load youtube with certain browsers, others ok
On 2011/11/10 09:02, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: On Nov 9, 2011, at 8:43 PM, Tina K. wrote: Sorry, I misspoke. I was using Chrome, and when it stopped loading YouTube at about v14 I switched to Chromium with no relief. I only have one instance of Flash Player installed, and it is the latest non-beta version 11.0.1.52. What I can't figure out is why Safari, SeaMonkey, OmniWeb, and iCab will load youtube.com and Opera, Camino, and the newly re-installed Google Chrome will not. Google Chrome hangs with Waiting for ad-g.doubleclick.net... in the status bar and then the Page(s) Unresponsive window pops up. It COULD be that Youtube is changing things on the back end, based on your browser's ID string. Turn on Safari's Developer menu and change your User Agent string and see what happens. I tried Chrome, Firefox, Opera, and Camino User Agent strings in Safari and they all loaded youtube.com fine. A larger point is: you have browsers that work, why are you worrying over the ones that won't? Simply because I liked not having Flash in all of my browsers, that was the only reason I started using Chrome in the first place. Any page with Flash that I want to see I drag the url to ShoveBox for later viewing and I avoid Flash issues with my primary browser. I am familiar with ClickToFlash but it just seemed better to keep Flash in just the one browser. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Can't load youtube with certain browsers, others ok
This is on my Mac Pro, below. I had been using Chromium for Flash sites so that I wouldn't have to install the Flash Player plug-in, but recently, about the time v14 came out, it has stopped loading the youtube page. The youtube logo comes up on the tab, but that's it - no parts of the page load that I can see. So I installed the Flash Player plug-in to go back to how I used to view Flash content. SeaMonkey, OmniWeb, and iCab will load youtube but Camino, Chromium, and Opera will not. Does anyone see a common thread here that I am missing? Tina -- HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Can't load youtube with certain browsers, others ok
This is on my Mac Pro, below. I had been using Chromium for Flash sites so that I wouldn't have to install the Flash Player plug-in, but recently, about the time v14 came out, it has stopped loading the youtube page. The youtube logo comes up on the tab, but that's it - no parts of the page load that I can see. So I installed the Flash Player plug-in to go back to how I used to view Flash content. SeaMonkey, OmniWeb, and iCab will load youtube but Camino, Chromium, and Opera will not. Does anyone see a common thread here that I am missing? I should add that Safari works as well. Tina -- HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Which G5 or older Mac
On 2011/11/09 04:01, Bill Connelly so eloquently wrote: Some day soon, I'd like to upgrade to a faster cpu Mac, from my current 10.5.8 based models: a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz and a Digital Audio Dual 533. A Dual 2 GHz sounds really nice ... I run many older apps such as Photoshop CS, InDesign CS, Adobe Golive CS, Sibelius 3 and Ableton's Live 6 plus many other PPC based applications, and have hesitated from upgrading because I thought I would need all new software for the Intel-based-ness of the newer, faster Macs. Am I wrong? Which Macs can I get, and still run all my software that I currently run on my PPC G4s under Leopard 10.5.8? An Intel Mac with Leopard or (preferably) Snow Leopard can handle that. If you want to go G5 my choice would be the 2.3GHz dual core. It was the final generation of the G5 Power Macs and the fastest air cooled model so there's no worrying about coolant leaks. It would help if you lived in a cool climate though, it really pumps out the heat and runs up the utility bill. My Mac Pro (below) use about half the electricity that my 2.0GHz G5 DP did and is significantly faster running multi-CPU process's. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: APC ES-500 Yelling Right Out of the Box
On 2011/10/31 22:24, Anne Keller-Smith so eloquently wrote: Had power outage Friday and noted that while my son's Back UPS ES 750 worked fine, beeped to let him know to shut down, mine just allowed the computer to shut off. Not good! Did you have the Energy Saver pref pane configured to shut the Mac down before the UPS ran out of battery power? And the USB/Ethernet cable connected from the Mac to the UPS? Tina -- HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB Drive Issues
On 2011/10/24 10:05, Michael McMurtrey wrote: All of a sudden my Verbatim USB drive (AC320GB) will not work when connected to my Targus USB hub. The hub is powered, and the power supply seems to be working. All other USB peripherals work fine when plugged into the hub, and the Verbatim drive works fine when plugged directly into a USB port on the computer. Do other devices function correctly when plugged into the port that the USB HDD is plugged into? Tina -- HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Onboard graphics XP Pro iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: non ECC RAM?
On 2011/10/15 23:38, Brielle Bruns wrote: DDR3 means 'double data rate type three' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR3_SDRAM It primarily means its an evolution of DDR2 and transfers data 2x as fast as DDR2. Thank you for the clarification, sometimes I am a little bit dyslexic. :-) Tina -- HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Onboard graphics XP Pro iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Air filter on a G5 ppc
On 2011/10/14 16:59, JohnV wrote: Is there an elegant way to filter the incoming air in a ppc G5 tower? A long time ago I read a post by a man who used his wife's old stockings to filter the air. I make no claims to the feasibility of doing so. ;-) Tina -- HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Onboard graphics XP Pro iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: non ECC RAM?
On 2011/10/14 18:52, John Carmonne wrote: Has anyone mixed non ECC RAM on a Mac PRO? If so was there any problems? The ECC RAM of coarse is more expensive and I'm trying to keep down the cost. I have a 2009 2.66 Quad Nehalem. Whether Non-ECC memory works or not, mixing ECC Non-ECC doesn't sound like a stable set-up. Keep in mind, if you put in three matching sticks it will run in triple-channel mode; two matching sticks will run in dual-channel mode, and four matching sticks will run at a speed inbetween dual triple-channel. Tina -- HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Onboard graphics XP Pro iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: non ECC RAM?
On 2011/10/15 21:11, Brielle Bruns wrote: Sticks of ram are done in pairs if they use interleaving to improve performance. There's no such thing as triple or quad (unless its something non-standard and obscure). 4 sticks is basically 2 banks of 2 interleaved sticks. My un-educated internet research revealed that three identical sticks ran faster than two, and four sticks ran inbetween two three stick speeds. Don't remember the url of the test unfortunately. A Google search for triple channel ram returns over 1,000,000 results that seem to say that there is such a thing as triple channel memory, I believe that is what is indicated by the DDR3 designation. http://www.google.com/search?ie=utf8oe=utf8q=triple+channel+ram Tina -- HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Onboard graphics XP Pro iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: daisy-chaining back up drive?
Den Onsdag, 12/10 2011, 11:34, Geke skrev: All right, guys, interesting! I didn't know all that! Still, for the original poster it's not relevant, and probably confusing. The bottom line for him doesn't change: he shouldn't be connecting two computers to one HD, and the best solution to use the drive from two computers is to connect it to the 10.4 one and share it, so the 9.2.2 one can mount it over the network. it was interesting I did get the point I'm a she I don't want to connect the drive to the 10.4 one - it does a fantastic job on the 9.2.2 one, with auto backup of all that's changed at shut down - with the software that came with the drive and, the 9.2.2 one is where the serious work is done and all my emails gets downloaded to the 10.4/5 ones is just for webmailing, casual gaming, playing music, banking and that sorts going to buy another one for the 10.4/5 ones, whenever I can afford one, and until then, try to be more efficient with the manual backups but thanks anyway - to all of you :-) /tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: daisy-chaining back up drive?
Den Søndag, 9/10 2011, 06:35, Charles Davis skrev: On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:59 AM, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: well, what other ways to use the same back up drive for two puters exists then? tia /tina How about the obvious Network the two computers and make the attached drive a 'network resource? Chuck D. it's just that the obvious doesn't work, because the drive is attached to the os 9 mac, and when I try to connect to that form the 10.x macs, I always get this wrong afp version message works fine the other way around, by going to the appleshare control panel and type in the ip of the 10.x mac I want to connect to and of course I can do manual back ups that way, it's just not as handy and thus doesn't happen as often as I'd like it to /tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: daisy-chaining back up drive?
Den Søndag, 9/10 2011, 01:55, Clark Martin skrev: Attaching 2 or more computers to one drive won't physically hurt the firewire interface but it may corrupt the drive. Each computer will mount the drive and there is nothing to keep them from writing contradictory directory information to the disk. So don't do it. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway too bad, sounded like such an exellent idea :-( well, what other ways to use the same back up drive for two puters exists then? tia /tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: daisy-chaining back up drive?
Den Søndag, 9/10 2011, 10:49, Dan skrev: At 5:59 PM +0200 10/9/2011, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: what other ways to use the same back up drive for two puters exists then? CarbonCopyCloner will back up to afp shared volumes, be they NAS or on another computer. hey, lots of interesting info and history turning up here :-) well, will it then be possible to get the 10.4 or 10.5 macs to see the drive, when it's still hooked up to the old g3? maybe a stupid question, but I never succeded in accessing the old g3 from 10.4 or 10.5 - I can only do it the other way around - i.e., I can access the 10.x macs from 9.2.2, but not the 9.2.2 from 10.x and no, speed is not really an issue, and lacie is nice because they now about macs and haven't quite forgotten the old 9.x days tia /tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: daisy-chaining back up drive?
another thing about this... so why would I like to daisy-chain some other devices to the drive on the other fw ports? the manual says I can, but I just can't find a reason to do so what devices and why - anyone? tia /tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Mapping Out Bad Sectors
If you zero out a hard drive with Disk Utility to map out the bad blocks, are they notated in a permanent fashion or will a simple reformat lose the bad block map. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mapping Out Bad Sectors
On 2011/10/04 09:34, John Martz so eloquently wrote: My understanding is it works this way. If the drive attempts to read a sector and the read fails, the sector is marked as pending. It is not remapped under the rational that the read may succeed in the future. So if you see a non-zero value for pending sectors in the drive's SMART data, this is what has happened. If you write to a sector and the write fails THEN the sector is remapped (if possible). This is tallied in the Reallocated Sectors Count, I think. The drives firmware keeps track of the remapping and reads/writes to that sector redirected from that point on to the remapped sector. The gist is that if you have bad sectors and you want to force the drive to remap them you have to write to those sectors. One way to do this is to perform an erase of the drive i.e. write zeros (or whatever) to every sector on the drive. A format in and of itself may do nothing. It all depends on what sectors on the drive the format writes to. FWIW, I'm not sure what the phrase low level format means with any drive sold this century. For quite some time the format of a hard drive is fixed once it leaves the factory and this can't be tinkered with other than remapping bad sectors via the firmware. And, yes, if you have a large number of either pending or reallocated sectors on a drive, it is a cause for concern about the health of the drive. Especially if the number keeps going up. FWIW, I looked this up on Micromat's website and it said that their write zeros function does not map out bad sectors. They suggested using Disk Utility.app, though there may be other 3rd party apps that can do it too. My main concern is if I do a low level reformat with all zeros, and then at a later date reinitialize the drive, would it then lose it's updated map and revert to the factory's map? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
Den Mandag, 3/10 2011, 06:37, Charles Davis skrev: Problem!! System MDD Dual 11.25 G4, 2GB DDR SDRAM Entry of about config in address bar results in Google search for 'about config'. What have I missed?? Chuck D. it should be about:config - and without the qoutes /tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: TenFourFox
Den Lørdag, 1/10 2011, 07:49, Lawrence David Eden skrev: Yes, you have to enable plugins. I just learned how: Open TenFourFox and in the address bar type about config Scroll down to TenFourFox PlugIns and double click. This changes the default behavior of TenFourFox, which, (as a fellow Lister, Peter, just pointed out) is set to DISABLE. After making this simple adjustment, TenFourFox is behaving itself and displaying Flash media. Larry just so great, thank you so much - have been avoiding the upgrade from 5 for that exact reason now it works - love it and also a huge thanks to cameron for the time and effort put into this and classilla oh, btw about config didn't do it, just send me on to google - it had to be about:config - and it's the last line on the page /tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OSX: cloning or ex-novo?
On 2011/09/20 20:55, Dan so eloquently wrote: At 12:45 AM +0200 9/21/2011, Valter Prahlad wrote: PowerMac G5, DP 2.7 AGP (not PCI-X). PowerMac G4 DA, with OSX 10.4.11, and lots of installed bits and pieces (apps, tools, drivers, personal data, etc.). I now have two possible options for setting up my new G5: - Cloning my existing OSX partition (from the G4). - Installing OSX 10.4.11 ex-novo, and then reinstalling/moving all the extra stuff (a long and tedious process). Clone!!! Just... be sure your first boot on the cloned volume is into Safe Mode. That will ensure that the kernel and system caches are rebuilt fully. Cloning works very well as long as you haven't used something like Monolingual to remove unneeded architectures. If you have than you'll need to do it the hard way. I have cloned from G4 to G5, and Powerbook to iMac with no apparent problems. But I wonder if moving an OSX from a very different Mac could cause any trouble. Is there any reason for installing ex-novo, against simple cloning? If the newer machine can run that OS then there should be no problem. I've run into a few odd gitches doing it... eg: I did a clean install into a PowerBook G4 then cloned to a PowerMac G3 and later a PM G4. It works fine. But now and then it thinks it has bluetooth. heh. I need to go kill off that plist. Another question: if I choose to installing ex-novo, will Migration Assistant be able to transfer all the extra bits and pieces? Or will there be something missing? I've never managed to get Migration Assistant to get -everything- on Panther, Tiger, or Leopard. It's crashy and there's always something missing. The vers from SL and Lion seem to be better - and more stable. *shrug* I've not had good luck with Migration Assistant in the past either, however Carbon Copy Cloner SyncTwoFolders have worked very well for me. If you do use a tool such as this be sure the settings are exactly what you want, one wrong setting can create a nightmare. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Best possible graphics card for MDD G4?
On 2011/09/13 17:34, Jörg Duurkoop so eloquently wrote: Where can I get this control panel to switch my MDD Dual to single CPU mode? I often listen to music from my harddisks and don't like the constantly changing fan noise at all. Before I upgraded my single processor MDD 1.25 with a dual CPU board the fans were much quieter - but the YouTube videos quite choppy ... I believe it is in the Developer Tools for the given OS. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: BW G3 Freezes - thanks for the suggestions.
On 2011/09/10 12:19, Mac User #330250 so eloquently wrote: -- Original message -- Subject: Re: BW G3 Freezes - thanks for the suggestions. Date:Saturday, 10. September 2011 From:Alexander Gomesalexcomputersolut...@gmail.com To:g3-5-list@googlegroups.com On any processor, IBM or otherwise it is recommended to reapply thermal paste after removing the heatsink. True, but on my G3 BW 350 MHz there wasn't any thermal paste. With these processors there isn't that much heat emission. My old 50 MHz Intel i486 also didn't use thermal paste, although it had a heatsink with a fan, what I would call: “loosly attached.” But back in the days this was normal. So, if there is none in the first place, there is nothing to reapply. There is the possibility that someone previously took it apart and neglected to re-apply it; also I don't think it can hurt if applied properly. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Snoring G4 Digital Audio?
On 2011/09/04 17:10, faithie999 so eloquently wrote: the DA uses 22 pins and one of the 2 extra pins supplies +28volts. if you decide to do a mod to a standard power supply, you'll need to find a wallwart 28v power supply, probably on ebay. Is this 28v vitally important to operating the DA, or is it only needed for ADC monitors? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Quieter fans for a Quicksilver G4?
On 2011/08/31 17:14, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: On Aug 31, 2011, at 2:36 PM, Alex Barnes wrote: Once upon a time I took apart a 1 kW PSU to see what was inside. I was zapped pretty well and the worst thing about it was that it hurt like crazy. I did not need CPR or any help whatsoever. Taking apart a PSU is not safe but it is not going to kill you if you do get zapped. Getting zapped THAT time did not kill you. People get struck by lightning and live. This does not mean getting hit by lightning will not kill you. If you insist on testing this hypothesis, hold up a long metal pole in the middle of an open field during a thunderstorm long enough for us to gather a statistically significant number of lightning strikes Exactly. You can probably do cocaine (not that I advocate doing so) and live to tell the tale, but it killed a college athlete in seemingly good health. His name was Len Bias, and he's dead. Most people might survive the jolt most of the time, but that doesn't mean that the next one won't kill you. Or someone else. There is no hard fast rule about what will kill you. Many people have died doing things that seemed innocuous. If you choose to take that chance, by all means go right ahead. But telling other people that it *won't* kill them is ridiculous because you have no way of knowing what might kill them. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.4.11 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: efficient EMac HD transfer
On 2011/08/29 08:10, Don Wakefield so eloquently wrote: Please help me with my EMac 1.25 GHz PowerPC G4 / 768 MB DDR SDRAM running Leopard 10.5.8. My internal 80 GB HD is becoming a bit crowded sharing space with all my data and application files. So I have just copied the application and data files over to a new 1 T external HD where they have plenty of elbow room. My question is: Is there a simple way to convince the OS to stop looking for the various links on the original internal drive and coax it instead into finding them on the new drive? I wish to decommission the original files, leaving only the OS on the internal HD, and I would like not to have to relink each individual lost link to its new location. Relinking one by one would be a pain. What is the most efficient way to accomplish the transfer? Your suggestions are welcomed. Do you mean to say that you want the OS on the internal HDD, and you user folder on the external HDD? IF THAT IS THE CASE, go to System Preferences/Accounts, and authenticate as an admin if the lower left padlock is locked. Control click (right click does not seem to work) on your account in the list of accounts on the left. Advanced Options… will appear, click on it and you will be shown several advanced options. As the name implies, these are advanced features. Messing with them could leave you permanently logged out. At the line Home directory: click Choose… and select the home directory on the external HDD that you want to use. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.4.11 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail Question
On 2011/08/14 10:58, QuoVadis so eloquently wrote: Might even be so that no one sees the e-mail addresses in the BCC entry field! That is correct, if all of the addressees are BCC none of them will be able to see who else it went out to. On the flip side, if you want to see who you sent a message to previously using BCC, double-click the message and when it opens in it's own window it should show who the recipients were. Note that this only works for messages you originated, not messages you received BCC. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.4.11 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Cool hack for an old keyboard...
On 2011/08/12 16:56, Joshua Juran so eloquently wrote: I'm typing this on a Matias Tactile Pro. :-) Noisy cricket, but it feels great. I'm waiting for my TP to get old enough to justify taking it apart and seeing what I can do with it. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.4.11 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 10.5.8 G4 Won't restart
On 2011/08/11 15:37, Vince Meghrouni so eloquently wrote: When I try to properly shut down or restart my G4 Quicksilver OS 10.5.8, the icons leave the screen (the screensaver image - is that what you call it? - remains) and the beach ball spins forever. I can shut it down with the power button and bring it back up. I zapped the PRAM. I've repaired permissions and run disk repair. The disk repair had to make some repairs, which seems a little ominous to me. But it's back to square one. I can't paroperly shut down or restart the machine. Sound familiar to anyone? I had a similar problem, when I tried to logout Leopard everything would quit, even the dock menubar, and then it would just hang for as long as my patience would last (overnight once, still had to do a hard shutdown). But I don't recall seeing the SBBOD. Doing a Safe Boot (hold down the shift key after the 'bong' tone) helped a little, but not for very long. Finally I gave up and went back to 10.4. Software needs brought me back to 10.5, but this time I did an Archive Install, instead of an Upgrade install and I haven't had the problem since. So my question would be, did you install Leopard as an upgrade or as an archive? If it was an upgrade, you might try doing a clean install or an archive install, backing up your data first of course. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.4.11 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mouseball comes to life, keyboard dies
On 2011/07/30 14:28, Tom wrote: On the downside, I had a glass of water sitting next to my keyboard (the very thin aluminum kind), and I bumped it over on the keyboard. The water went all over the keys. Instantly I turned the board over and set it on a towel, and tapped on it, hoping to drain out all the water. Then I fired up a hair dryer and held the keyboard upside down and dried the heck out of it. All to no avail. The keyboard is dead. Tapping on keys gets no response whatever on the screen. I can't figure out how to Magic Erase the inside of a keyboard, assuming it would work. Does anyone know a way this dead keyboard might be resuscitated? You could try putting the kb in an airtight container along with a good amount of desiccant (dry rice, the packets included with some items for shipping) and leave it be for a good amount of time. This method has been used successfully with mobile phones. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
imac g5 will not install 10.4/10.5 - dead hd or...?
very long horror story - sorry :-( 17 imac g5, 1.8 ghz, 1.5 gb ram and a 150 gb hd - I've owned it for about a year or so, and it's been working fine until very recently, running 10.5 with all updates it started with an unwillingness to wake up from sleep, it was occasional and typically when I'd been playing a game that tends to get the fans up running searched a bit around but only found some hints that the power supply might be dying - nothing to do but wait and see however, I thought it a good idea to try and reset the thingy - sorry, can't remember the name of it, but the pulle the plug and push the power button procedure also checked the hd with the system disk utility and it seemed fine, so repaired permissions - there was a lot of out of order there then it seemed happy again and the don't want to wake up vanished yesterday - out of the blue, while surfing around, it became unresponsive and the beach ball just turned and turned. tried to force quit the browser, but it would not - so power button beach ball and power button again - 2-3 times more after that it came up with a huuge dock, with apps in it I had deleted from there a long time ago, question marks for the apps I'd deleted, and all apps I've put there was gone... normal shut down from the menu made everything disappear from the desktop... up again in that weird mode and it froze as soon as I tried to open a finder window tried booting in safe mode - now it asked for password, which I normally don't use but after that, all I got was an empty desktop - oh and the fans running full speed - power button time to get out the 10.5 install disk me thinks - it got spat out of there like a rocket one more time, and it stayed in and I could get to the disk utility which stated the hd was fine... well ok, but maybe those permissions could do with some repairs then - on we go after some 2 hours I deem the task fruitless and (guess that was stupid) aborted... and... check disk now reports it not good - several red lines about invalid extent entry and files supposed to 4k being 2gb - all ending up with the volume could not be repaired hmmm - times to start the old beige and do some yahooing (google crashes my old netscape) found the fsck command and gave it a try - after 5 times with the exact same errors turning up an ending with could not be repaired, file system was modified, I went to bed and decided to rease and start over today so, a new day and on with the task of trying to save my audio books and downloads - thank god for the firewire target mode and my old beige after some hours of saving files (no errors or hangs or anything), I went on to the fresh install task phew - not starting good still spitting out the 10.5 disk - oh well, I like 10.4 better, and so does the imac it seems I zeroed the hd and now it was reportedly fino, so install procedure on we go - weed out all the unnecesary printers and laguages - go... until... almost done - sorry en error, try again, and again, and again - error, error, error - even tried the 10.5 again also error, with 10.5 it gave me a strange message about not liking the package - or something oh the disk errors came back, erased it again - install error again in the hope of some magic advice and tia /tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PowerMac G5 Quits
On 2011/07/18 13:08, James Morgan wrote: My G5 just shuts down and restarts itself. And often freezes up. Does this sound like a faulty power supply to you folks? Have you read the Console logs to see if it's just an OS crash? Which version of OS X are you running? How is your machine configured, and what are you doing when it shuts down? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Intel Mac PPC apps
On 2011/07/01 19:15, cubpa...@aol.com wrote: FYI, the earlier Intel Macs used a different version of Tiger than did the PPC Macs. I do not believe that Intel Macs are able to run OS9. Thank you for that tidbit of information, I was Intel-less until just this year so my knowledge regarding the Intel transition is limited. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Intel Mac PPC apps
On 2011/06/25 13:32, Cliff Rediger wrote: Also, what about Classic apps. ? There's one I just can't live without, viz. INCONTROL no ToDo/Calendar app like it anywhere that I can find. I'm pretty sure that Classic support was dropped with 10.5 Leopard so if you can't live without it you would need to get an Intel Mac that originally shipped with 10.4 Tiger. Assuming that those Intel machines were able to run Classic that is. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SSH filebrowser client
On Tirsdag, 21/6 2011, 05:46, Nestamicky wrote: A buddy is tired now looking for an SSH client that will allow him to browse files such as pictures directly from the server. I'm thinking he needs something that offers a thumbnail view. I thought I'd help him out, asking here. I think he's on 10.5.8. Thanks a lot! what he needs is an sftp client - I think yummy is the best thing out there www.yummysoftware.com /tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list