Re: [Gajim-devel] Fwd: UPDATE: net/gajim to 0.12 and drop maintainership

2008-12-22 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2008-12-22, 01:28 GMT, Jonathan Schleifer wrote: > This is not an option as I use different MUAs. Claws-Mail seems > to handle it like expected, while Apple Mail doesn't. > Thunderbird's too bloated IMO, especially on OS X where it > feels slow and non-native (even worse than Gtk, so I'd e

Re: [Gajim-devel] Fwd: UPDATE: net/gajim to 0.12 and drop maintainership

2008-12-21 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 22.12.2008 um 00:12 schrieb Matej Cepl: Get a mail client which complies with RFC 2369 -- just from the top my head -- Thunderbird does with https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/4455 This is not an option as I use different MUAs. Claws-Mail seems to handle it like expected,

Re: [Gajim-devel] Fwd: UPDATE: net/gajim to 0.12 and drop maintainership

2008-12-21 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2008-12-21, 11:43 GMT, Jonathan Schleifer wrote: > PS: Could we have a Reply-To:? I was used to just always add > gajim-devel@gajim.org to the To: as it's never there, but as > you saw lately, that can cause quite some confusion (private > mail answered publically because of that habit etc.

Re: [Gajim-devel] Fwd: UPDATE: net/gajim to 0.12 and drop maintainership

2008-12-21 Thread Yann Leboulanger
Jonathan Schleifer wrote: > Well, you definitely take a point with release often. But let's call it > 0.12.0.1, ok? And announce that a fix for the disconnections is being > investigated. release name with 4 numbers are for svn. What's the problem with 0.12.1, it's a bugfix release, as 0.12.2 wil

Re: [Gajim-devel] Fwd: UPDATE: net/gajim to 0.12 and drop maintainership

2008-12-21 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 21.12.2008 um 14:16 schrieb Yann Leboulanger: Where is it said that "[I] always insisted that only [you] got the bug and the bug reports [you] received were bogus." I never said you didn't got any complaints, just that *I* never got. And I never talked about the bugreports you got ... But m

Re: [Gajim-devel] Fwd: UPDATE: net/gajim to 0.12 and drop maintainership

2008-12-21 Thread Yann Leboulanger
Jonathan Schleifer wrote: >> That said, I don't remeber having said that, and that doesn't prevent >> you to fix that. > > You did it in the mail before. You said you only have heard from me > about the problem, that I had bug reports from others is something you > ignored. Where is it said that

Re: [Gajim-devel] Fwd: UPDATE: net/gajim to 0.12 and drop maintainership

2008-12-21 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Yann Leboulanger wrote: > That's not another personal attack, no, of course. How is stating that you said a personal attack? > That said, I don't remeber having said that, and that doesn't prevent > you to fix that. You did it in the mail before. You said you only have heard from me about the

Re: [Gajim-devel] Fwd: UPDATE: net/gajim to 0.12 and drop maintainership

2008-12-21 Thread Yann Leboulanger
Jonathan Schleifer wrote: > I told you I got bug reports, but you always insisted that only I got > the bug and the bug reports I received were bogus. That's not another personal attack, no, of course. That said, I don't remeber having said that, and that doesn't prevent you to fix that. >> Have

Re: [Gajim-devel] Fwd: UPDATE: net/gajim to 0.12 and drop maintainership

2008-12-21 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 21.12.2008 um 12:53 schrieb Yann Leboulanger: If one dev get all complaints and don't forward them to bug tracker, I don't see how we could go forward ... I told you I got bug reports, but you always insisted that only I got the bug and the bug reports I received were bogus. Have you ti

Re: [Gajim-devel] Fwd: UPDATE: net/gajim to 0.12 and drop maintainership

2008-12-21 Thread Yann Leboulanger
Jonathan Schleifer wrote: > Am 21.12.2008 um 12:36 schrieb Yann Leboulanger: > >> I think you should read ticket, and test 0.12 branch. There is a missing >> import so sending file is just not possible. > > Hm, maybe they're using trunk then. I'll have a look. in trunk ping timout is still 20sec

Re: [Gajim-devel] Fwd: UPDATE: net/gajim to 0.12 and drop maintainership

2008-12-21 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 21.12.2008 um 12:36 schrieb Yann Leboulanger: I think you should read ticket, and test 0.12 branch. There is a missing import so sending file is just not possible. Hm, maybe they're using trunk then. I'll have a look. And please, stop saying that only a few people are affected by this

Re: [Gajim-devel] Fwd: UPDATE: net/gajim to 0.12 and drop maintainership

2008-12-21 Thread Yann Leboulanger
Jonathan Schleifer wrote: > Am 21.12.2008 um 12:07 schrieb Yann Leboulanger: > >> You think more people are affected by this 30s timeout than by >> filetranfer? Really? I think more people use FT than are on a slow >> connection. > > Yes, definitely. You don't send files all the time. Besides, wh

Re: [Gajim-devel] Fwd: UPDATE: net/gajim to 0.12 and drop maintainership

2008-12-21 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 21.12.2008 um 12:07 schrieb Yann Leboulanger: You think more people are affected by this 30s timeout than by filetranfer? Really? I think more people use FT than are on a slow connection. Yes, definitely. You don't send files all the time. Besides, which problem with file transfers? I hav

Re: [Gajim-devel] Fwd: UPDATE: net/gajim to 0.12 and drop maintainership

2008-12-21 Thread Yann Leboulanger
Jonathan Schleifer wrote: > Am 21.12.2008 um 11:42 schrieb Yann Leboulanger: > >> I won't put oil on fire, just to tell that after private dicussion, >> there is indeed a problem with TCP timout, it lasts more than 10 minutes. > > That is because Gajim doesn't call setsockopt(). > >> So tests ar

Re: [Gajim-devel] Fwd: UPDATE: net/gajim to 0.12 and drop maintainership

2008-12-21 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 21.12.2008 um 11:42 schrieb Yann Leboulanger: I won't put oil on fire, just to tell that after private dicussion, there is indeed a problem with TCP timout, it lasts more than 10 minutes. That is because Gajim doesn't call setsockopt(). So tests are needed to improve that. But 0.12.1 sh

Re: [Gajim-devel] Fwd: UPDATE: net/gajim to 0.12 and drop maintainership

2008-12-21 Thread Yann Leboulanger
I won't put oil on fire, just to tell that after private dicussion, there is indeed a problem with TCP timout, it lasts more than 10 minutes. So tests are needed to improve that. But 0.12.1 should be released before that to fix filetransfer I think. Any objection to release 0.12.1 now? -- Yann

Re: [Gajim-devel] Fwd: UPDATE: net/gajim to 0.12 and drop maintainership

2008-12-19 Thread Nikos Kouremenos
Guys, releasing after so much time means a lot of pressure. Since all guys here want the best for Gajim I think that (a) there is no need to argue so much about stuff, just let it be for a while and a .1 will come and fix regressions and (b) let everyone take some days off relax and see what's the

Re: [Gajim-devel] Fwd: UPDATE: net/gajim to 0.12 and drop maintainership

2008-12-19 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Yann Leboulanger wrote: > As it's not possiblt to have private mail, let's continue here. > > Jonathan Schleifer wrote: > > Yann Leboulanger wrote: > > > >> Jonathan Schleifer a écrit : > > It's not. It's just that I want to show you that it's not true that > > this is only affecting GPRS user

Re: [Gajim-devel] Fwd: UPDATE: net/gajim to 0.12 and drop maintainership

2008-12-19 Thread Yann Leboulanger
As it's not possiblt to have private mail, let's continue here. Jonathan Schleifer wrote: > Yann Leboulanger wrote: > >> Jonathan Schleifer a écrit : > It's not. It's just that I want to show you that it's not true that > this is only affecting GPRS users. thousands of people uses svn version a

Re: [Gajim-devel] Fwd: UPDATE: net/gajim to 0.12 and drop maintainership

2008-12-19 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Yann Leboulanger wrote: > Jonathan Schleifer a écrit : > > Here's a mail where OpenBSD states why they won't commit 0.12 into > > their ports tree. > > Thanks for the news. > > > So much for "This is not a issue for users not using GPRS", Yann. > > This is not a personal attack, no, of course.