[Audyssey] Improving accessibility document

2010-11-15 Thread neophyte

Hi all,

Well, my last message still hasn't made it onto the list yet, but I've
finished the rough draft of the document I was working on.

I've placed it at this URL:

www.inthecompanyofgrues.com/interactivefiction/ifvia.rtf

It's a rich text format document and weighs in at roughly four thousand
five hundred words. A lot of that is in the form of direct quotes.

It's late here, almost 1am, so I have no doubt there might be a few errors
in there, but I'd really appreciate some of you guys checking over it for
me. If there is something that really needs to be ripped out or reworded,
don't even hesitate to let me know. Equally, if you have a brainwave and
would love to see something added, fill me in or drop me a line.

To be clear, the document has not been made public other than on this
list. When it is finished, it will be posted on my blog (Company of
Grues), which will see it appear in the aggregation on the major
interactive fiction site, Planet IF.

As you will see, I've tried to incorporate learnings from my own mistakes
into the information provided. Hopefully, that comes across okay.

Finally, there are a couple of other people who have helped me that I will
be emailing the document to. Their input and required changes will also
shape the final document.

Alright, I'm heading for bed. See you on the flip side of the time zone.

Oh, and one more time: thanks for all your help!

Cheers,

Neophyte.


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Re: [Audyssey] interactive fiction test game

2010-11-15 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Phil,

Yep, and my apartment door is about 30 steps from the laundry room.  Better to 
count than tapping the walls of my neighbors the whole way down the hall.

BFN

Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] interactive fiction test game

2010-11-15 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,

Well, for what it is worth you certainly are on the right track. For
example, the examine command could include so much more than a
visual description. As you pointed out an author could include weight,
texture, sound, smell, etc to give it more meaning to someone who is
blind. For example, let's assume we want to examine a Christmas tree.

examine tree


Before you stands a 12 foot tall dark green Christmas tree decorated
in red, blue, and yellow lights with silver, gold, and red balls. As
you happily examine the Christmas tree you smell the wonderful sent of
pine that reminds you of the forest near your home. As you lay a hand
on the tree you feel the sharp prickle of pine needles against your
skin.

This is a simple example of how the examine command can be improved.
It gives a visual description of the Christmas tree, but adds in some
extra sensory descriptions like smell and the feel of the pine needles
against your skin. We could, of course, go into even more detail, but
this is probably enough to set the mood.



On 11/14/10, neoph...@inthecompanyofgrues.com
neoph...@inthecompanyofgrues.com wrote:

 A few quick questions and answers.

 Am I going to show this little test to anyone outside of this list?
 Really short answer: heck, no. The game was only written to test out the
 prompt and status line features. As I mentioned in my previous comment,
 this is not intended to be a game in its own right, or become one. It's
 just my little test bed. The only aspects I want to share with other
 sighted authors is the benefit of changing the prompt, removing the status
 line and considering adding more sensory descriptions. For example,
 hearing a clock, rather than just seeing it. I do like the idea of setting
 up additional sensory commands, though. Even being sighted, I feel like a
 lot of interactive fiction just focuses on what can be seen. Why can't the
 command examine, for example, also include holding an object and getting
 a feel for its weight, or texture?

 What's with all the references to distances and so on?
 Yeah, sorry. It's all ignorance on my behalf and unfortunately part of the
 learning process. I think sighted people try so hard to do the right
 thing, or show that we're wanting to understand, that we end up doing the
 wrong thing anyway! It's quite interesting the way you talk about fitting
 into mainstream society. For me, it's exactly the same, trying to fit in
 here at Audyssey. So, thank you so much, I really do appreciate the
 clarification and education. Not to mention the cool ideas you guys come
 up with. It really does help.

 What's the plan?
 Well, to be honest, I'm not sure right now. Yes, I'm committed to creating
 a document that looks at practical ways interactive fiction can be made
 more accessible. When that's written I'll be letting some key people read
 it and respond, so that I don't make any big mistakes or phrase something
 poorly.

 In addition I'm currently learning to code in Inform 7. What I'd love to
 do is write an extension that defines a really easy way to make Choose
 Your Own Adventure style games in Inform 7, complete with a few options
 that I'm playing around with to reduce the babble.

 After that, I'm thinking of starting up a short form multiple choice story
 competition (with some reasonable cash prizes) to encourage people to get
 their creative juices flowing. It's particularly for those who aren't
 coding minded, but there will be an innovation prize.

 Well, I hope that clarifies a few things.

 Cheers,

 Neophyte.


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[Audyssey] AudioGames.net on Twitter Facebook

2010-11-15 Thread AudioGames.net
Hi guys,

Behind the scenes we're slowly busy hauling AudioGames.net over into the new 
decade. So for those who want join this progression, feel free to follow us on 
Twitter and Facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/AudioGamesnet/174103722616051 (Facebook page)
http://twitter.com/AudioGamesNet (Twitter)

Best regards,

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[Audyssey] tdv

2010-11-15 Thread michael barnes
hey when i went to the site to get tdv i didn't see were the game is 
at. so when is this game going to be release today?


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Re: [Audyssey] tdv

2010-11-15 Thread Ron Kolesar
To best answer your question.
Keep checking this list and or if you're subscribed to the PBC mailing list. 
Keep a eye out on that list as well.
I just checked the web page myself and it still has the beta on it from 
March.
Ron who if were sighted would have had a career in the air and his trusty 
copilot Leader Dog Boz.
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Subject: [Audyssey] tdv

 hey when i went to the site to get tdv i didn't see were the game is at. 
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Re: [Audyssey] Extant - game feadback

2010-11-15 Thread NIcol
Hi Richard
I am sorry to say, but when opening the file for the pc version of the game
after downloading it, I got this error:
Compressed (zipped) Folders Error
The Compressed (zipped) Folder is invalid or corrupted.
I am using win xp's built in unzip program.
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Behalf Of AudioGames.net
Sent: 30 October 2010 03:45 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Extant - game feadback

Hi Lori et al,

Thanks Lori, we'll definitely consider adding extra targeting feedback.

For all of you trying out the Extant tech demo, we're very interested in 
details such as if you:

- are playing the PC or the Mac version?
- are using headphones, stereo desktop speakers, 5.1, 7.1, etc.?
- just use keyboard input or also use a mouse?
- reconfigured the original control scheme yet (you can if you want to)?
- can't get anything to work?
- etc.

This can help us establish with for instance why footsteps may appear too 
loud for one player but soft for someone else. I can tell you, using 
headphones or speakers makes quite a difference.

Also, we interested of what you think of the design of the gamespace. What 
do you think of:

- how the world, the environment sounds?
- the different acoustics based on your current location (which is all 
realtime dynamic reverberation by the way ;)
- how buildings work (finding them, entering and leaving them, etc.)?
- how pickups work?
- how fighting work (thanks again for those who already expressed their 
feedback on this issue)?
- how orientation and navigation works, incl. Moby?

And did anyone already notice something peculiar about the gameworld? ;)

Thanks for your feedback, keep 'em coming. Please post either to this list 
or join us on the Extant-forum:

http://forum.audiogames.net/viewforum.php?id=24
http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4310

And for those interested in the download links - here they are again:
Extant - Download for PC
http://www.audiogames.net/download/6

Extant - Download for MAC
http://www.audiogames.net/download/5

Best regards,

Richard
http://audiogames.net
http://creativehero.es




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Re: [Audyssey] tdv

2010-11-15 Thread Ron Kolesar

Hi Mike, from Ron and Boz once again.
Munawar just gave us the word.
Around 8:00 PM tonight it will be out for down load.
RonRon Kolesar
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Re: [Audyssey] Extant - game feadback

2010-11-15 Thread AudioGames.net

Hi Nicol,

What probably is the case is that your anti-virus software has blocked or 
removed the .exe from the .zip-file. You can read about this problem on the 
Extant-forum here:


http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4310

Here's what others have posted about the problem:

Dark: If you've tried downloading multiple times and got the same issue,
perhaps you've got an antivirus program which is acting up and auto deleting
the files for some reason, thus creating a zip folder with no contents (I
have seen this happen before). 

Raygrote: Sounds like your antivirus is deleting it. Try either turnning it
off temporarily, then install and add the .exe as an exception.
If that doesn't work, try redownloading the zip file with a download manager
such as free download manager. This will make sure everything gets
downloaded. Most web browsers will not be able to help you out if the
download unexpectedly stops. I've seen some websites that trip all of the
web browsers I have, including Internet Explorer, Firefox, and Seamonkey.
They would download to a certain point and then stop and say it was
finished, leaving a corrupted file.
This game sounds awesome, downloading it now.

So maybe try adding an exception for Extant in your virus-software, or
temporarily turning off your virus software. Extant does not need
installing, simply unzipping.

Let me know if you can get it to work!

Greets,

Richard


- Original Message - 
From: NIcol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Extant - game feadback



Hi Richard
I am sorry to say, but when opening the file for the pc version of the 
game

after downloading it, I got this error:
Compressed (zipped) Folders Error
The Compressed (zipped) Folder is invalid or corrupted.
I am using win xp's built in unzip program.
-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of AudioGames.net
Sent: 30 October 2010 03:45 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Extant - game feadback

Hi Lori et al,

Thanks Lori, we'll definitely consider adding extra targeting feedback.

For all of you trying out the Extant tech demo, we're very interested in
details such as if you:

- are playing the PC or the Mac version?
- are using headphones, stereo desktop speakers, 5.1, 7.1, etc.?
- just use keyboard input or also use a mouse?
- reconfigured the original control scheme yet (you can if you want to)?
- can't get anything to work?
- etc.

This can help us establish with for instance why footsteps may appear too
loud for one player but soft for someone else. I can tell you, using
headphones or speakers makes quite a difference.

Also, we interested of what you think of the design of the gamespace. What
do you think of:

- how the world, the environment sounds?
- the different acoustics based on your current location (which is all
realtime dynamic reverberation by the way ;)
- how buildings work (finding them, entering and leaving them, etc.)?
- how pickups work?
- how fighting work (thanks again for those who already expressed their
feedback on this issue)?
- how orientation and navigation works, incl. Moby?

And did anyone already notice something peculiar about the gameworld? ;)

Thanks for your feedback, keep 'em coming. Please post either to this list
or join us on the Extant-forum:

http://forum.audiogames.net/viewforum.php?id=24
http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4310

And for those interested in the download links - here they are again:
Extant - Download for PC
http://www.audiogames.net/download/6

Extant - Download for MAC
http://www.audiogames.net/download/5

Best regards,

Richard
http://audiogames.net
http://creativehero.es




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Re: [Audyssey] tdv

2010-11-15 Thread Muhammed Deniz

8 PM eastern. I'm not sure what time that is in england.
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] tdv



To best answer your question.
Keep checking this list and or if you're subscribed to the PBC mailing 
list. Keep a eye out on that list as well.
I just checked the web page myself and it still has the beta on it from 
March.
Ron who if were sighted would have had a career in the air and his trusty 
copilot Leader Dog Boz.

Ron Kolesar
kolesar16...@roadrunner.com

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Subject: [Audyssey] tdv

hey when i went to the site to get tdv i didn't see were the game is at. 
so when is this game going to be release today?


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Re: [Audyssey] tdv

2010-11-15 Thread william lomas
1 tuesday morning lol 

On Nov 15, 2010, at 6:22 PM, Muhammed Deniz wrote:

 8 PM eastern. I'm not sure what time that is in england.
 - Original Message - From: Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 5:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] tdv
 
 
 To best answer your question.
 Keep checking this list and or if you're subscribed to the PBC mailing list. 
 Keep a eye out on that list as well.
 I just checked the web page myself and it still has the beta on it from 
 March.
 Ron who if were sighted would have had a career in the air and his trusty 
 copilot Leader Dog Boz.
 Ron Kolesar
 kolesar16...@roadrunner.com
 
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 Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 12:06 PM
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 Subject: [Audyssey] tdv
 
 hey when i went to the site to get tdv i didn't see were the game is at. so 
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Re: [Audyssey] tdv

2010-11-15 Thread Jacob Kruger

What time zone?
(as in it's already 8:33PM this side - LOL!)

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Hi Mike, from Ron and Boz once again.
Munawar just gave us the word.
Around 8:00 PM tonight it will be out for down load.
RonRon Kolesar
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Re: [Audyssey] tdv

2010-11-15 Thread william lomas
eastern time 

On Nov 15, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:

 What time zone?
 (as in it's already 8:33PM this side - LOL!)
 
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 Munawar just gave us the word.
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 hey when i went to the site to get tdv i didn't see were the game is at. so 
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[Audyssey] Tdv ordering

2010-11-15 Thread John Snowling

Hi.

I take it you can then order your copy at that time.


From what I've heard about this game it will be worth its price.


Looking forward to getting it.

Cheers.



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Re: [Audyssey] Tdv ordering

2010-11-15 Thread Ian McNamara
not sure if it is my kind of game can't even get the hang of the demmo so don't 
think i will be getting far if i do get the game. 

Ian McNamara
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[Audyssey] tdv where to get it?

2010-11-15 Thread Mich
Hi all. where can you download a coppy of tdv and what is this game about? many 
thanks. from Mich.
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Re: [Audyssey] Ten Pin Alley help

2010-11-15 Thread Gary Whittington

Thanks, old buddy.
Just been on a good streak of getting things done lately.
My voice web site recorder got a big step forward.
And you can beta test it for me at
shadowbeam.com

But really, things were just were falling down like bowling pins lately.

So, I thought what the any hell.  Been a while forking out some cash on a 
blind game.

Got to play a game with myself ding four practice players.
Gee, thought Gary would been a name the game would known.
I am using the newly demo form the site, so it must be version 1.2.
And the game is on my secondary hard drive.
But it must been having some work on my vista computer that fix the problem 
I was having to start up the game.
I still need to reformat my main drive to get the service pack 2 on this 
machine.

That will allow me to up date the IE and Jaws.
Stuck on 7 for IE and jaws ten.
That is a large project where I am backing up files when I have time.
But its nice to finish up little things like TPA.

And now its working, I can consider hosting on FTP a bowling night.

Again tthanks for the reply, and talk to you later.

Crash
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Hi Gary,
I think Ten Pin Alley 1.2 is designed to work with Vista and Windows 7. 
But if you lost your registration key, you are now required to pay full 
price.

That is the Draconis policy as of last year.
I do not have the old registration keys, except for the Sarah game.
That's the only game that I can look up your key and send it to you if you 
lost it.

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Re: [Audyssey] tdv where to get it?

2010-11-15 Thread Bryan Peterson
Well you can only download a Beta at the moment but the official release is 
supposed to be coming out today. Ultimately it's going to be a remake or 
more accurately a massive overhaul of the old game Treasure Hunt. You can 
learn about it over at www.bpcprograms.com.

We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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Hi all. where can you download a coppy of tdv and what is this game about? 
many thanks. from Mich.

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Re: [Audyssey] tdv where to get it?

2010-11-15 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Brian,
No, it's not going to be an overhall. It's the sequal.

Best Regards,
Hayden

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Well you can only download a Beta at the moment but the official release is 
supposed to be coming out today. Ultimately it's going to be a remake or 
more accurately a massive overhaul of the old game Treasure Hunt. You can 
learn about it over at www.bpcprograms.com.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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Re: [Audyssey] tdv

2010-11-15 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi,
Awsome. I'll be the first to click that download button...

Best Regards,
Hayden


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eastern time 

On Nov 15, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:

 What time zone?
 (as in it's already 8:33PM this side - LOL!)
 
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 Hi Mike, from Ron and Boz once again.
 Munawar just gave us the word.
 Around 8:00 PM tonight it will be out for down load.
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 hey when i went to the site to get tdv i didn't see were the game is at.
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Re: [Audyssey] Extant - game feadback

2010-11-15 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi,
One problem I have experienced is that the exe file can't be gotten to with
the down arrow--I had to right arrow over to it.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Hi Nicol,

What probably is the case is that your anti-virus software has blocked or 
removed the .exe from the .zip-file. You can read about this problem on the 
Extant-forum here:

http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4310

Here's what others have posted about the problem:

Dark: If you've tried downloading multiple times and got the same issue,
perhaps you've got an antivirus program which is acting up and auto deleting
the files for some reason, thus creating a zip folder with no contents (I
have seen this happen before). 

Raygrote: Sounds like your antivirus is deleting it. Try either turnning it
off temporarily, then install and add the .exe as an exception.
If that doesn't work, try redownloading the zip file with a download manager
such as free download manager. This will make sure everything gets
downloaded. Most web browsers will not be able to help you out if the
download unexpectedly stops. I've seen some websites that trip all of the
web browsers I have, including Internet Explorer, Firefox, and Seamonkey.
They would download to a certain point and then stop and say it was
finished, leaving a corrupted file.
This game sounds awesome, downloading it now.

So maybe try adding an exception for Extant in your virus-software, or
temporarily turning off your virus software. Extant does not need
installing, simply unzipping.

Let me know if you can get it to work!

Greets,

Richard


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Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Extant - game feadback


 Hi Richard
 I am sorry to say, but when opening the file for the pc version of the 
 game
 after downloading it, I got this error:
 Compressed (zipped) Folders Error
 The Compressed (zipped) Folder is invalid or corrupted.
 I am using win xp's built in unzip program.
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 Sent: 30 October 2010 03:45 PM
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 Subject: [Audyssey] Extant - game feadback

 Hi Lori et al,

 Thanks Lori, we'll definitely consider adding extra targeting feedback.

 For all of you trying out the Extant tech demo, we're very interested in
 details such as if you:

 - are playing the PC or the Mac version?
 - are using headphones, stereo desktop speakers, 5.1, 7.1, etc.?
 - just use keyboard input or also use a mouse?
 - reconfigured the original control scheme yet (you can if you want to)?
 - can't get anything to work?
 - etc.

 This can help us establish with for instance why footsteps may appear too
 loud for one player but soft for someone else. I can tell you, using
 headphones or speakers makes quite a difference.

 Also, we interested of what you think of the design of the gamespace. What
 do you think of:

 - how the world, the environment sounds?
 - the different acoustics based on your current location (which is all
 realtime dynamic reverberation by the way ;)
 - how buildings work (finding them, entering and leaving them, etc.)?
 - how pickups work?
 - how fighting work (thanks again for those who already expressed their
 feedback on this issue)?
 - how orientation and navigation works, incl. Moby?

 And did anyone already notice something peculiar about the gameworld? ;)

 Thanks for your feedback, keep 'em coming. Please post either to this list
 or join us on the Extant-forum:

 http://forum.audiogames.net/viewforum.php?id=24
 http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4310

 And for those interested in the download links - here they are again:
 Extant - Download for PC
 http://www.audiogames.net/download/6

 Extant - Download for MAC
 http://www.audiogames.net/download/5

 Best regards,

 Richard
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Re: [Audyssey] tdv

2010-11-15 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Ron,
While I personally think that would be fun, some how I have the nagging
suspicion if I became a pilot I'd make all of my passengers (including
myself) seasick (or is that airsick? Grin

Best Regards,
Hayden


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To best answer your question.
Keep checking this list and or if you're subscribed to the PBC mailing list.

Keep a eye out on that list as well.
I just checked the web page myself and it still has the beta on it from 
March.
Ron who if were sighted would have had a career in the air and his trusty 
copilot Leader Dog Boz.
Ron Kolesar
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Re: [Audyssey] tdv

2010-11-15 Thread Charles Rivard
Maybe the computer would not crash, but if I were the pilot?  The correct 
words cannot be sent to the list, because swearing is not allowed.  Let's 
put it this way:  First you say it, then you do it.  (grin)


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Hi Ron,
While I personally think that would be fun, some how I have the nagging
suspicion if I became a pilot I'd make all of my passengers (including
myself) seasick (or is that airsick? Grin

Best Regards,
Hayden


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To best answer your question.
Keep checking this list and or if you're subscribed to the PBC mailing 
list.


Keep a eye out on that list as well.
I just checked the web page myself and it still has the beta on it from
March.
Ron who if were sighted would have had a career in the air and his trusty
copilot Leader Dog Boz.
Ron Kolesar
kolesar16...@roadrunner.com

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hey when i went to the site to get tdv i didn't see were the game is at.
so when is this game going to be release today?

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Re: [Audyssey] Ten Pin Alley help

2010-11-15 Thread Charles Rivard

Service pack 2??  Why not 3?

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Thanks, old buddy.
Just been on a good streak of getting things done lately.
My voice web site recorder got a big step forward.
And you can beta test it for me at
shadowbeam.com

But really, things were just were falling down like bowling pins lately.

So, I thought what the any hell.  Been a while forking out some cash on a 
blind game.

Got to play a game with myself ding four practice players.
Gee, thought Gary would been a name the game would known.
I am using the newly demo form the site, so it must be version 1.2.
And the game is on my secondary hard drive.
But it must been having some work on my vista computer that fix the 
problem I was having to start up the game.
I still need to reformat my main drive to get the service pack 2 on this 
machine.

That will allow me to up date the IE and Jaws.
Stuck on 7 for IE and jaws ten.
That is a large project where I am backing up files when I have time.
But its nice to finish up little things like TPA.

And now its working, I can consider hosting on FTP a bowling night.

Again tthanks for the reply, and talk to you later.

Crash
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Hi Gary,
I think Ten Pin Alley 1.2 is designed to work with Vista and Windows 7. 
But if you lost your registration key, you are now required to pay full 
price.

That is the Draconis policy as of last year.
I do not have the old registration keys, except for the Sarah game.
That's the only game that I can look up your key and send it to you if 
you lost it.

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Re: [Audyssey] tdv where to get it?

2010-11-15 Thread Charles Rivard
Pay more attention to posts to the list in order to eliminate these repeats. 
Thanks.


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Hi all. where can you download a coppy of tdv and what is this game about? 
many thanks. from Mich.

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Re: [Audyssey] tdv where to get it?

2010-11-15 Thread Bryan Peterson
Not according to Munawar. He said the overhaul would be one of the other two 
phases. At least that's what he said on audiogames.net. I know he was 
planning to overhaul Treasure Hunt.

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Hi Brian,
No, it's not going to be an overhall. It's the sequal.

Best Regards,
Hayden

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Well you can only download a Beta at the moment but the official release 
is

supposed to be coming out today. Ultimately it's going to be a remake or
more accurately a massive overhaul of the old game Treasure Hunt. You can
learn about it over at www.bpcprograms.com.
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Hi all. where can you download a coppy of tdv and what is this game 
about?



many thanks. from Mich.
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Re: [Audyssey] tdv where to get it?

2010-11-15 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Mich,

The game is 3d Velocity and can be found on the
http://www.bpcprograms.com
website.

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] tdv where to get it?

2010-11-15 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi,
No, this is about Jaes' brother, Julius.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Not according to Munawar. He said the overhaul would be one of the other two

phases. At least that's what he said on audiogames.net. I know he was 
planning to overhaul Treasure Hunt.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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 Hi Brian,
 No, it's not going to be an overhall. It's the sequal.

 Best Regards,
 Hayden

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 Well you can only download a Beta at the moment but the official release 
 is
 supposed to be coming out today. Ultimately it's going to be a remake or
 more accurately a massive overhaul of the old game Treasure Hunt. You can
 learn about it over at www.bpcprograms.com.
 We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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Re: [Audyssey] tdv

2010-11-15 Thread Ron Kolesar

A challenge for Haden. SMILES.
Now who's going to be the first to down load TDV? SMILES.
RonRon Kolesar
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 Hi,
 Awsome. I'll be the first to click that download button...

 Best Regards,
 Hayden


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 eastern time

 On Nov 15, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:

 What time zone?
 (as in it's already 8:33PM this side - LOL!)

 Jacob Kruger
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 Skype: BlindZA
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 Hi Mike, from Ron and Boz once again.
 Munawar just gave us the word.
 Around 8:00 PM tonight it will be out for down load.
 RonRon Kolesar
 kolesar16...@roadrunner.com

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 hey when i went to the site to get tdv i didn't see were the game is 
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 so when is this game going to be release today?

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Re: [Audyssey] tdv

2010-11-15 Thread Ron Kolesar

Well, that's a blind pilot for you. SMILES.
Ron Kolesar
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 Hi Ron,
 While I personally think that would be fun, some how I have the nagging
 suspicion if I became a pilot I'd make all of my passengers (including
 myself) seasick (or is that airsick? Grin

 Best Regards,
 Hayden


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 To best answer your question.
 Keep checking this list and or if you're subscribed to the PBC mailing 
 list.

 Keep a eye out on that list as well.
 I just checked the web page myself and it still has the beta on it from
 March.
 Ron who if were sighted would have had a career in the air and his trusty
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 Ron Kolesar
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[Audyssey] TDV is finally out.

2010-11-15 Thread Ron Kolesar
To all.
While I'm down loading tdv Read the following.
I checked the web page just a few seconds before I saw the letter.
So here's the announcement.
The time has finally come. Three-D Velocity is now ready for download and 
purchase. You can visit http://www.bpcprograms.com/news.htm for more 
information. The sale price on the game is $40.00 USD, and will last till 
mid January.
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Re: [Audyssey] tdv

2010-11-15 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Ron,
Well, whoever it was it apparently wasn't me. Grin It was probably you.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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A challenge for Haden. SMILES.
Now who's going to be the first to down load TDV? SMILES.
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 Hi,
 Awsome. I'll be the first to click that download button...

 Best Regards,
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 eastern time

 On Nov 15, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:

 What time zone?
 (as in it's already 8:33PM this side - LOL!)

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 Hi Mike, from Ron and Boz once again.
 Munawar just gave us the word.
 Around 8:00 PM tonight it will be out for down load.
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 hey when i went to the site to get tdv i didn't see were the game is 
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Re: [Audyssey] tdv

2010-11-15 Thread Bryan Peterson
I don't particularly give a rat's arse what number I was LOL. But at least 
we've got till January for the sale price. Gives me a little more time to be 
sure I'll have the funds.

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Hi Ron,
Well, whoever it was it apparently wasn't me. Grin It was probably you.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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A challenge for Haden. SMILES.
Now who's going to be the first to down load TDV? SMILES.
RonRon Kolesar
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Hi,
Awsome. I'll be the first to click that download button...

Best Regards,
Hayden


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eastern time

On Nov 15, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:


What time zone?
(as in it's already 8:33PM this side - LOL!)

Jacob Kruger
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Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

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kolesar16...@roadrunner.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] tdv




Hi Mike, from Ron and Boz once again.
Munawar just gave us the word.
Around 8:00 PM tonight it will be out for down load.
RonRon Kolesar
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hey when i went to the site to get tdv i didn't see were the game is
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so when is this game going to be release today?


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[Audyssey] registering tdv

2010-11-15 Thread michael barnes
hey how do you get the product key to put in the blank so you can get a 
license for the game?


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Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv

2010-11-15 Thread Clement Chou
Hmm. Doesn't the manual tell you this? I haven't gotten the game 
itself yet because my computer doesn't want to cooperate... but I 
would've thought that the manual had instructions.


At 05:31 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:
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Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv

2010-11-15 Thread Bryan Peterson
They usually do if one bothers to read. And this is exactly why one 
shouldn't dive right into a game without first reading up on it.

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Hmm. Doesn't the manual tell you this? I haven't gotten the game itself 
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Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv

2010-11-15 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi,
The manual does say it; read it.

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Hmm. Doesn't the manual tell you this? I haven't gotten the game 
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[Audyssey] the patch for tdv

2010-11-15 Thread michael barnes

hey being this game is a new release do i need the patch for the game?

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Re: [Audyssey] the patch for tdv

2010-11-15 Thread Hayden Presley
Michael.
If you checked the page you'd know that the patch is for the previous BETA,
that's what it says.

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Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv

2010-11-15 Thread Charles Rivard

By reading the user's guide and following the instructions found in it.

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Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv

2010-11-15 Thread Clement Chou
My view exactly. Thanks for voicing exactly what I feel... but I felt 
someone who was able to describe it in more, uh, polite ways than me 
should handle it. lol.


At 05:39 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:
They usually do if one bothers to read. And this is exactly why one 
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Hmm. Doesn't the manual tell you this? I haven't gotten the game 
itself yet because my computer doesn't want to cooperate... but I 
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Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv

2010-11-15 Thread Bryan Peterson
Well thankyou. Thankyouverymuch. LOL. But really, it's no more than good 
old-fashioned common sense.

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My view exactly. Thanks for voicing exactly what I feel... but I felt 
someone who was able to describe it in more, uh, polite ways than me 
should handle it. lol.


At 05:39 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:
They usually do if one bothers to read. And this is exactly why one 
shouldn't dive right into a game without first reading up on it.

We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv


Hmm. Doesn't the manual tell you this? I haven't gotten the game itself 
yet because my computer doesn't want to cooperate... but I would've 
thought that the manual had instructions.


At 05:31 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:
hey how do you get the product key to put in the blank so you can get a 
license for the game?


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Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv

2010-11-15 Thread Clement Chou
Yeah, but unfortunately... not everyone has that. And to most people, 
games are just the thing where you grab the game and just get right 
into it and the only thing you have to read is walkthroughs and 
guides. Never once do they consult the user's manual.


At 06:07 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:
Well thankyou. Thankyouverymuch. LOL. But really, it's no more than 
good old-fashioned common sense.

We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv


My view exactly. Thanks for voicing exactly what I feel... but I 
felt someone who was able to describe it in more, uh, polite ways 
than me should handle it. lol.


At 05:39 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:
They usually do if one bothers to read. And this is exactly why 
one shouldn't dive right into a game without first reading up on it.

We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv


Hmm. Doesn't the manual tell you this? I haven't gotten the game 
itself yet because my computer doesn't want to cooperate... but I 
would've thought that the manual had instructions.


At 05:31 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:
hey how do you get the product key to put in the blank so you 
can get a license for the game?


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Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv

2010-11-15 Thread Charles Rivard
If you don't consult the number one source of helpful information and 
instruction on game play that the game developer took the time and effort to 
produce and provide for you, then it's your own fault and nobody else's. 
That's what it's there for, isn't it?  If you are one of those who just 
dives right in without first getting assistance that you might need in a 
very short time, and you get stuck, and you still don't check the user's 
guide, that's your own problem, and that's what you get for not looking 
before you leap.  I wonder how many complaints there would be if a game were 
to come out that included no keystroke lists or no instructions of any kind? 
Maybe this should be done to show their importance?  Then again, that 
wouldn't be fair to those who actually take the time to go through them, but 
it's a thought.


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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv


Yeah, but unfortunately... not everyone has that. And to most people, 
games are just the thing where you grab the game and just get right into 
it and the only thing you have to read is walkthroughs and guides. Never 
once do they consult the user's manual.


At 06:07 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:
Well thankyou. Thankyouverymuch. LOL. But really, it's no more than good 
old-fashioned common sense.

We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv


My view exactly. Thanks for voicing exactly what I feel... but I felt 
someone who was able to describe it in more, uh, polite ways than me 
should handle it. lol.


At 05:39 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:
They usually do if one bothers to read. And this is exactly why one 
shouldn't dive right into a game without first reading up on it.

We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - From: Clement Chou 
chou.clem...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv


Hmm. Doesn't the manual tell you this? I haven't gotten the game itself 
yet because my computer doesn't want to cooperate... but I would've 
thought that the manual had instructions.


At 05:31 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:
hey how do you get the product key to put in the blank so you can get 
a license for the game?


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Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv

2010-11-15 Thread Alfredo C
Hello, I have just submitted a order to BPCPrograms for 3DVelocity. Since 
this is supposed to be an automated system, I have expected to get an Email 
right away after I have sent the order. I have not gotten anything as of 
yet, I am going to wait for a bit, if not I will contact BPCPrograms. Has 
anyone had to wait for a while after getting the Pay pal receipt?

Alfredo

-Original Message- 
From: Charles Rivard

Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 6:28 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv

If you don't consult the number one source of helpful information and
instruction on game play that the game developer took the time and effort to
produce and provide for you, then it's your own fault and nobody else's.
That's what it's there for, isn't it?  If you are one of those who just
dives right in without first getting assistance that you might need in a
very short time, and you get stuck, and you still don't check the user's
guide, that's your own problem, and that's what you get for not looking
before you leap.  I wonder how many complaints there would be if a game were
to come out that included no keystroke lists or no instructions of any kind?
Maybe this should be done to show their importance?  Then again, that
wouldn't be fair to those who actually take the time to go through them, but
it's a thought.

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- Original Message - 
From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv


Yeah, but unfortunately... not everyone has that. And to most people, 
games are just the thing where you grab the game and just get right into 
it and the only thing you have to read is walkthroughs and guides. Never 
once do they consult the user's manual.


At 06:07 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:
Well thankyou. Thankyouverymuch. LOL. But really, it's no more than good 
old-fashioned common sense.

We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv


My view exactly. Thanks for voicing exactly what I feel... but I felt 
someone who was able to describe it in more, uh, polite ways than me 
should handle it. lol.


At 05:39 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:
They usually do if one bothers to read. And this is exactly why one 
shouldn't dive right into a game without first reading up on it.

We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - From: Clement Chou 
chou.clem...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv


Hmm. Doesn't the manual tell you this? I haven't gotten the game itself 
yet because my computer doesn't want to cooperate... but I would've 
thought that the manual had instructions.


At 05:31 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:
hey how do you get the product key to put in the blank so you can get 
a license for the game?


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Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv

2010-11-15 Thread Clement Chou
Yeah, that's a fair point. But mainstream games don't give you much.. 
the user manual is a booklet with instructions on how to set the game 
up, and the very very basics. Doesn't cover anything too useful. lol.


At 06:28 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:
If you don't consult the number one source of helpful information 
and instruction on game play that the game developer took the time 
and effort to produce and provide for you, then it's your own fault 
and nobody else's. That's what it's there for, isn't it?  If you are 
one of those who just dives right in without first getting 
assistance that you might need in a very short time, and you get 
stuck, and you still don't check the user's guide, that's your own 
problem, and that's what you get for not looking before you leap.  I 
wonder how many complaints there would be if a game were to come out 
that included no keystroke lists or no instructions of any kind? 
Maybe this should be done to show their importance?  Then again, 
that wouldn't be fair to those who actually take the time to go 
through them, but it's a thought.


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- Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv


Yeah, but unfortunately... not everyone has that. And to most 
people, games are just the thing where you grab the game and just 
get right into it and the only thing you have to read is 
walkthroughs and guides. Never once do they consult the user's manual.


At 06:07 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:
Well thankyou. Thankyouverymuch. LOL. But really, it's no more 
than good old-fashioned common sense.

We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv


My view exactly. Thanks for voicing exactly what I feel... but I 
felt someone who was able to describe it in more, uh, polite ways 
than me should handle it. lol.


At 05:39 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:
They usually do if one bothers to read. And this is exactly why 
one shouldn't dive right into a game without first reading up on it.

We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv


Hmm. Doesn't the manual tell you this? I haven't gotten the 
game itself yet because my computer doesn't want to 
cooperate... but I would've thought that the manual had instructions.


At 05:31 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:
hey how do you get the product key to put in the blank so you 
can get a license for the game?


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Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv

2010-11-15 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Alfredo,
Remember to check your junk folder.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Alfredo C
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:33 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv

Hello, I have just submitted a order to BPCPrograms for 3DVelocity. Since 
this is supposed to be an automated system, I have expected to get an Email 
right away after I have sent the order. I have not gotten anything as of 
yet, I am going to wait for a bit, if not I will contact BPCPrograms. Has 
anyone had to wait for a while after getting the Pay pal receipt?
Alfredo

-Original Message- 
From: Charles Rivard
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 6:28 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv

If you don't consult the number one source of helpful information and
instruction on game play that the game developer took the time and effort to
produce and provide for you, then it's your own fault and nobody else's.
That's what it's there for, isn't it?  If you are one of those who just
dives right in without first getting assistance that you might need in a
very short time, and you get stuck, and you still don't check the user's
guide, that's your own problem, and that's what you get for not looking
before you leap.  I wonder how many complaints there would be if a game were
to come out that included no keystroke lists or no instructions of any kind?
Maybe this should be done to show their importance?  Then again, that
wouldn't be fair to those who actually take the time to go through them, but
it's a thought.

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- Original Message - 
From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv


 Yeah, but unfortunately... not everyone has that. And to most people, 
 games are just the thing where you grab the game and just get right into 
 it and the only thing you have to read is walkthroughs and guides. Never 
 once do they consult the user's manual.

 At 06:07 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:
Well thankyou. Thankyouverymuch. LOL. But really, it's no more than good 
old-fashioned common sense.
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv


My view exactly. Thanks for voicing exactly what I feel... but I felt 
someone who was able to describe it in more, uh, polite ways than me 
should handle it. lol.

At 05:39 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:
They usually do if one bothers to read. And this is exactly why one 
shouldn't dive right into a game without first reading up on it.
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv


Hmm. Doesn't the manual tell you this? I haven't gotten the game itself

yet because my computer doesn't want to cooperate... but I would've 
thought that the manual had instructions.

At 05:31 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:
hey how do you get the product key to put in the blank so you can get 
a license for the game?

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[Audyssey] tdv question

2010-11-15 Thread michael barnes
hey i just paid for the game. how long does it take to get your key? 
how does the bpc people know what email to send your key to you because 
it don't have a email fill.


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Re: [Audyssey] tdv question

2010-11-15 Thread Clement Chou

Again. Read the manual...

At 07:00 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:
hey i just paid for the game. how long does it take to get your key? 
how does the bpc people know what email to send your key to you 
because it don't have a email fill.


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Re: [Audyssey] tdv question

2010-11-15 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Michael,
What? When you order the game, there's a palce to put your email. But to
answer your original question, it'll take no time at all--I just order and
got my key.

Best Regards,
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Subject: [Audyssey] tdv question

hey i just paid for the game. how long does it take to get your key? 
how does the bpc people know what email to send your key to you because 
it don't have a email fill.

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Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv

2010-11-15 Thread Alfredo C
Never mind, I got it, such a question I asked, sorry if I took up, I was a 
little excited about the game, but since I know so much about registering, 
and yes, I did check my junk folder but that was before it was sent to my 
inbox.

Thanks anyway,
Alfredo

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Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 6:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv

Hi Alfredo,
Remember to check your junk folder.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv

Hello, I have just submitted a order to BPCPrograms for 3DVelocity. Since
this is supposed to be an automated system, I have expected to get an Email
right away after I have sent the order. I have not gotten anything as of
yet, I am going to wait for a bit, if not I will contact BPCPrograms. Has
anyone had to wait for a while after getting the Pay pal receipt?
Alfredo

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Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 6:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv

If you don't consult the number one source of helpful information and
instruction on game play that the game developer took the time and effort to
produce and provide for you, then it's your own fault and nobody else's.
That's what it's there for, isn't it?  If you are one of those who just
dives right in without first getting assistance that you might need in a
very short time, and you get stuck, and you still don't check the user's
guide, that's your own problem, and that's what you get for not looking
before you leap.  I wonder how many complaints there would be if a game were
to come out that included no keystroke lists or no instructions of any kind?
Maybe this should be done to show their importance?  Then again, that
wouldn't be fair to those who actually take the time to go through them, but
it's a thought.

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Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv



Yeah, but unfortunately... not everyone has that. And to most people,
games are just the thing where you grab the game and just get right into
it and the only thing you have to read is walkthroughs and guides. Never
once do they consult the user's manual.

At 06:07 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:

Well thankyou. Thankyouverymuch. LOL. But really, it's no more than good
old-fashioned common sense.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv



My view exactly. Thanks for voicing exactly what I feel... but I felt
someone who was able to describe it in more, uh, polite ways than me
should handle it. lol.

At 05:39 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:

They usually do if one bothers to read. And this is exactly why one
shouldn't dive right into a game without first reading up on it.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - From: Clement Chou
chou.clem...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv



Hmm. Doesn't the manual tell you this? I haven't gotten the game itself



yet because my computer doesn't want to cooperate... but I would've
thought that the manual had instructions.

At 05:31 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:

hey how do you get the product key to put in the blank so you can get
a license for the game?

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Re: [Audyssey] tdv question

2010-11-15 Thread Phil Vlasak

Hi Folks,
I downloaded the TDV game and also wanted to hear the tdv_trailer.ogg
It's link is not working.
Smiles,
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[Audyssey] tdv problem

2010-11-15 Thread michael barnes
hey i did look and i didn't see any email fill. so i wonder if it could 
be in my pay pal email.


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Re: [Audyssey] tdv problem

2010-11-15 Thread Alfredo C
Whichever email you used for Pay Pal it will be sent. By the way, when I 
clicked the place Lick file here, the program said missing shortcut. Here is 
the source that it was supposed to go to. 
c:\ProgramData\BPCPrograms\TDV\lic.tdv. I looked in the program data folder 
but did not see a folder for BPCPrograms. Is there a reason as to why this 
might have happened?

Alfredo

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Subject: [Audyssey] tdv problem

hey i did look and i didn't see any email fill. so i wonder if it could
be in my pay pal email.

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[Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

2010-11-15 Thread Bryan Peterson
Ok, so I got my client ID within about half an hour or so. But when I enter it 
and click Download Lock, I get an error about an unhandled exception, something 
about could not find a part of the path. I'd copy and paste the actual message 
but it wouldn't let me. But when I click the Details button I do get pastable 
text which I'll include below. Hope I can figure this out since I really wanna 
play Mission Mode.
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
CodeBase: 
file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Accessibility.dll


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Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

2010-11-15 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Brian,
Just create the path it's asking for, and you'll be good to go. HTH!

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:17 PM
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Subject: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

Ok, so I got my client ID within about half an hour or so. But when I enter
it and click Download Lock, I get an error about an unhandled exception,
something about could not find a part of the path. I'd copy and paste the
actual message but it wouldn't let me. But when I click the Details button I
do get pastable text which I'll include below. Hope I can figure this out
since I really wanna play Mission Mode.
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
CodeBase:
file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a
/Accessibility.dll


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Re: [Audyssey] tdv problem

2010-11-15 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi,
I seem to be having a problem at the beginning of the first race, I am told
the runway is clear, but I cannot do anything. No status info, no arrow,
nothing. I'll try it again and see if I get that again.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Subject: [Audyssey] tdv problem

hey i did look and i didn't see any email fill. so i wonder if it could 
be in my pay pal email.

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Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

2010-11-15 Thread Zachary Kline

Hi Brian,
This is a problem I also experienced, but fortunately the solution is 
simple enough.

Go to c:\documents and settings\all users\application data\
You'll need to create a folder named BPCPrograms and in that folder 
another named TDV.

Once that's done the download should work properly.
I imagine Munawar will fix the problem once he's made aware of it.
Best,
Zack.


On Mon, 15 Nov 2010, Bryan Peterson wrote:


Ok, so I got my client ID within about half an hour or so. But when I enter it 
and click Download Lock, I get an error about an unhandled exception, something 
about could not find a part of the path. I'd copy and paste the actual message 
but it wouldn't let me. But when I click the Details button I do get pastable 
text which I'll include below. Hope I can figure this out since I really wanna 
play Mission Mode.
   Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
   CodeBase: 
file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Accessibility.dll


** JIT Debugging **
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

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configuration
   system.windows.forms jitDebugging=true /
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Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

2010-11-15 Thread Alfredo C
That is exactly what I did on my windows 7 Machine, and this time it said 
that the file was downloaded, but when I went into the game, it

still said it was not registered.
-Original Message- 
From: Zachary Kline

Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 7:30 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

Hi Brian,
This is a problem I also experienced, but fortunately the solution is
simple enough.
Go to c:\documents and settings\all users\application data\
You'll need to create a folder named BPCPrograms and in that folder
another named TDV.
Once that's done the download should work properly.
I imagine Munawar will fix the problem once he's made aware of it.
Best,
Zack.


On Mon, 15 Nov 2010, Bryan Peterson wrote:

Ok, so I got my client ID within about half an hour or so. But when I 
enter it and click Download Lock, I get an error about an unhandled 
exception, something about could not find a part of the path. I'd copy and 
paste the actual message but it wouldn't let me. But when I click the 
Details button I do get pastable text which I'll include below. Hope I can 
figure this out since I really wanna play Mission Mode.

   Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
   CodeBase: 
file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Accessibility.dll



** JIT Debugging **
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

configuration
   system.windows.forms jitDebugging=true /
/configuration

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
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[Audyssey] Using a Little Initiative

2010-11-15 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi all,

As this is increasingly becoming an issue on list I thought I would
step in on the discussion as a moderator as well as a fellow list
member. I think I need to spell out or clarify the point of this list.

First, as the list description clearly states we are hear to discuss
games that are accessible through accident or design. We provide help,
hints, and offer open discussion on same. That does not mean, however,
that we are to be a replacement for the game's documentation, the
game's developer, or a replacement for the developer's technical
support services. Although, list members may help with any or all of
these issues we expect a little self-initiative from the person asking
the question.

For example, if you are going to ask a question like, how do I
register game x, you should at least consult the game's user
documentation or check the developer's website for that information
before asking the question on list. Asking such a question that has
already been answered elsewhere is both a waist of our time and
probably yours as well. Instead of waiting several minutes or maybe
hours for someone to respond you could probably have had the answer
sooner just by using a little self-initiative and looked up that
information in the game's documentation or on the developer's website.
Why should the list be expected to answer those kinds of questions
when you already have that information at hand and available
elsewhere?

Another thing that gets some people annoyed is when a game is talked
about on list for days, and then someone asks, where do I get the
game from? Ummm...Seriously have you been paying attention?

 If you haven't the Audyssey  list is archived, there is Google, etc.
Plenty of resources to get the same information without asking the
question and having people repeat a download address multiple times in
one week just because someone can't or won't look it up in the
internet resources available to him/her. I have to ask, can you do
anything for yourself, or do you have to be spoon fed everything?

To be blunt about it by not taking a little personal initiative, not
trying to look up the answers yourself first, is just going to make
some users of the list upset at you. Many of them, including myself,
will see you as lazy and will not want to read or respond to your
posts. Personally speaking, I feel there is no excuse for not reading
a manual in full before coming on a list like this asking questions
like what command does this or that or how do I register the game
when the answer is right there in the manual. I am not only less
likely to respond to that kind of question, but I often add that
person to a mail filter to automatically be deleted from my inbox by
default. Keep that in mind before you ask several questions like that
as I'm sure I'm not alone in filtering my mail.

Bottom line, I'm willing to help anyone with an honest question if I'm
certain the person has tried to find an answer and couldn't find it.
For example, finding a secret item in a game isn't likely to be in the
manual, and if they really can't find it I'll give them a spoiler to
help them locate it. If the person has a technical problem with a game
that is not covered by the manual by all means I will help in anyway I
can. However, I'm not going to spend my time answering several
questions that I know can be easily answered by reading the
documentation. I can usually tell who has or has not read the manual
for game x.So if I choose to respond to a person asking a question I
feel has not tried to look up the information elsewhere I refer them
to the manual where they should have started to begin with. I know
some members get a bit upset when that happens, but seriously read the
manual first. If you don't know where to download a game use something
like Google.  After all, that's what it is there for so use it. It
saves everyone unnecessary time spent doing your own research for you.

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

2010-11-15 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan,

sorry, pal, but that is just a typical .NET message telling you to
enable just in time debugging. Since you don't have the source code
obviously you can't do that. Usually, the details of the crash appears
below that just in time debugging crap.

On 11/15/10, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote:
 Ok, so I got my client ID within about half an hour or so. But when I enter
 it and click Download Lock, I get an error about an unhandled exception,
 something about could not find a part of the path. I'd copy and paste the
 actual message but it wouldn't let me. But when I click the Details button I
 do get pastable text which I'll include below. Hope I can figure this out
 since I really wanna play Mission Mode.
 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
 CodeBase:
 file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Accessibility.dll
 

 ** JIT Debugging **
 To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
 application or computer (machine.config) must have the
 jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
 The application must also be compiled with debugging
 enabled.

 For example:

 configuration
 system.windows.forms jitDebugging=true /
 /configuration

 When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
 will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
 rather than be handled by this dialog box.



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Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

2010-11-15 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Wiliam,
Remember what I said earlier? Simply create the folder (not the file!) where
you will place your lock file, and then enter your client ID, click download
Lock file and bam
! you're done. Or at least, you should be...lol. I just finished my second
race, quite a game, and I must say you have to be careful with your fuel. I
ran out of it the first time I tried the second race, and couldn't land.

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of william lomas
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:36 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

I have the same issue. So I manually put the LIC file in to the tdv
doler in program files, bpc programs, tdv. now it says my game is
registered, but my license is not valid for this version?
I uninstalled the demo beforehand, also removing the BPC programs
folder to be doubly sure all had gone.

On 16/11/2010, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote:
 Ok, so I got my client ID within about half an hour or so. But when I
enter
 it and click Download Lock, I get an error about an unhandled exception,
 something about could not find a part of the path. I'd copy and paste the
 actual message but it wouldn't let me. But when I click the Details button
I
 do get pastable text which I'll include below. Hope I can figure this out
 since I really wanna play Mission Mode.
 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
 CodeBase:

file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a
/Accessibility.dll
 

 ** JIT Debugging **
 To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
 application or computer (machine.config) must have the
 jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
 The application must also be compiled with debugging
 enabled.

 For example:

 configuration
 system.windows.forms jitDebugging=true /
 /configuration

 When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
 will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
 rather than be handled by this dialog box.



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[Audyssey] Question

2010-11-15 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi,

Does anyone know why the documentation is calling this a release candidate?

 

Best Regards,

Hayden

 

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Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

2010-11-15 Thread Alfredo C
What OS are you using? Right now I am on a 7 system, but I think I can 
switch to an XP. I put the folders everywhere I could on my computer. I will 
give it a try on my netbook.


-Original Message- 
From: Hayden Presley

Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 7:47 PM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

Hi Wiliam,
Remember what I said earlier? Simply create the folder (not the file!) where
you will place your lock file, and then enter your client ID, click download
Lock file and bam
! you're done. Or at least, you should be...lol. I just finished my second
race, quite a game, and I must say you have to be careful with your fuel. I
ran out of it the first time I tried the second race, and couldn't land.

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of william lomas
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:36 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

I have the same issue. So I manually put the LIC file in to the tdv
doler in program files, bpc programs, tdv. now it says my game is
registered, but my license is not valid for this version?
I uninstalled the demo beforehand, also removing the BPC programs
folder to be doubly sure all had gone.

On 16/11/2010, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote:

Ok, so I got my client ID within about half an hour or so. But when I

enter

it and click Download Lock, I get an error about an unhandled exception,
something about could not find a part of the path. I'd copy and paste the
actual message but it wouldn't let me. But when I click the Details button

I

do get pastable text which I'll include below. Hope I can figure this out
since I really wanna play Mission Mode.
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
CodeBase:


file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a
/Accessibility.dll



** JIT Debugging **
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

configuration
system.windows.forms jitDebugging=true /
/configuration

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.



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Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

2010-11-15 Thread Bryan Peterson

Inside the game folder?
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- Original Message - 
From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV



Hi Brian,
Just create the path it's asking for, and you'll be good to go. HTH!

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:17 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

Ok, so I got my client ID within about half an hour or so. But when I 
enter

it and click Download Lock, I get an error about an unhandled exception,
something about could not find a part of the path. I'd copy and paste the
actual message but it wouldn't let me. But when I click the Details button 
I

do get pastable text which I'll include below. Hope I can figure this out
since I really wanna play Mission Mode.
   Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
   CodeBase:
file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a
/Accessibility.dll


** JIT Debugging **
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

configuration
   system.windows.forms jitDebugging=true /
/configuration

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.



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Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

2010-11-15 Thread Alfredo C
I just realized that I have to have another client ID generated for my n 
netbook. Is there a way I can do this without having to reorder? I want to 
get started on this game. 



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Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

2010-11-15 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Brian,
No, not inside the game folder. If you're using XP, the folder path you need
is: C:\DocumentsAndSettings\AllUsers\AplicationDData\BPCPrograms\TDV. Once
the system finds that path, you're good to go.

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:56 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

Inside the game folder?
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - 
From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV


 Hi Brian,
 Just create the path it's asking for, and you'll be good to go. HTH!

 Best Regards,
 Hayden


 -Original Message-
 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
 Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
 Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:17 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

 Ok, so I got my client ID within about half an hour or so. But when I 
 enter
 it and click Download Lock, I get an error about an unhandled exception,
 something about could not find a part of the path. I'd copy and paste the
 actual message but it wouldn't let me. But when I click the Details button

 I
 do get pastable text which I'll include below. Hope I can figure this out
 since I really wanna play Mission Mode.
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
CodeBase:

file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a
 /Accessibility.dll
 

 ** JIT Debugging **
 To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
 application or computer (machine.config) must have the
 jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
 The application must also be compiled with debugging
 enabled.

 For example:

 configuration
system.windows.forms jitDebugging=true /
 /configuration

 When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
 will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
 rather than be handled by this dialog box.



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Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

2010-11-15 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Alfredo,
The only thing I can suggest is to find the relevant path to the XP path I
gave, sense I do not recollect the new folder names. Sorry that's all I can
say

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Behalf Of Alfredo C
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:57 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

I just realized that I have to have another client ID generated for my n 
netbook. Is there a way I can do this without having to reorder? I want to 
get started on this game. 


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Re: [Audyssey] Using a Little Initiative

2010-11-15 Thread Clement Chou
Thank you, Tom. That just about summed up all the views I would've 
liked to write... this list should be strictly about discussion. Sure 
that involves answering questions, but questions shouldn't extend to 
ones that can be answered somewhere else...


At 07:42 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:

Hi all,

As this is increasingly becoming an issue on list I thought I would
step in on the discussion as a moderator as well as a fellow list
member. I think I need to spell out or clarify the point of this list.

First, as the list description clearly states we are hear to discuss
games that are accessible through accident or design. We provide help,
hints, and offer open discussion on same. That does not mean, however,
that we are to be a replacement for the game's documentation, the
game's developer, or a replacement for the developer's technical
support services. Although, list members may help with any or all of
these issues we expect a little self-initiative from the person asking
the question.

For example, if you are going to ask a question like, how do I
register game x, you should at least consult the game's user
documentation or check the developer's website for that information
before asking the question on list. Asking such a question that has
already been answered elsewhere is both a waist of our time and
probably yours as well. Instead of waiting several minutes or maybe
hours for someone to respond you could probably have had the answer
sooner just by using a little self-initiative and looked up that
information in the game's documentation or on the developer's website.
Why should the list be expected to answer those kinds of questions
when you already have that information at hand and available
elsewhere?

Another thing that gets some people annoyed is when a game is talked
about on list for days, and then someone asks, where do I get the
game from? Ummm...Seriously have you been paying attention?

 If you haven't the Audyssey  list is archived, there is Google, etc.
Plenty of resources to get the same information without asking the
question and having people repeat a download address multiple times in
one week just because someone can't or won't look it up in the
internet resources available to him/her. I have to ask, can you do
anything for yourself, or do you have to be spoon fed everything?

To be blunt about it by not taking a little personal initiative, not
trying to look up the answers yourself first, is just going to make
some users of the list upset at you. Many of them, including myself,
will see you as lazy and will not want to read or respond to your
posts. Personally speaking, I feel there is no excuse for not reading
a manual in full before coming on a list like this asking questions
like what command does this or that or how do I register the game
when the answer is right there in the manual. I am not only less
likely to respond to that kind of question, but I often add that
person to a mail filter to automatically be deleted from my inbox by
default. Keep that in mind before you ask several questions like that
as I'm sure I'm not alone in filtering my mail.

Bottom line, I'm willing to help anyone with an honest question if I'm
certain the person has tried to find an answer and couldn't find it.
For example, finding a secret item in a game isn't likely to be in the
manual, and if they really can't find it I'll give them a spoiler to
help them locate it. If the person has a technical problem with a game
that is not covered by the manual by all means I will help in anyway I
can. However, I'm not going to spend my time answering several
questions that I know can be easily answered by reading the
documentation. I can usually tell who has or has not read the manual
for game x.So if I choose to respond to a person asking a question I
feel has not tried to look up the information elsewhere I refer them
to the manual where they should have started to begin with. I know
some members get a bit upset when that happens, but seriously read the
manual first. If you don't know where to download a game use something
like Google.  After all, that's what it is there for so use it. It
saves everyone unnecessary time spent doing your own research for you.

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] Installing the registration files for 3dVelocity

2010-11-15 Thread Alfredo C


Hello,
To put the file necessary to register the game, under the start menu there 
will be a folder called “place Lock file here.” Right click and hit 
properties. look for the target and follow that address on your computer. 
For example: on Windows Vista or 7, it wil be 
“c:\programData\BpcPrograms\TDV” Since the folder was not created, you can 
create the folders in the program data folder. Also, if you look under your 
app data in your windows vista or 7 computer, in the roaming folder there 
will be a “BPCPrograms” folder.

“C:\users\username\appData\roaming\BPCPrograms\TDV”
For windows XP: CSmile with tongue outdocuments and 
settings\username\application data\bpcprograms\tdv” You can create the 
folders in the application data.

We hope this information is helpful.
If you have any issues, let us know.

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Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

2010-11-15 Thread Alfredo C
Ok I do have xp, but the problem was that I got a generated client key for 
my Windows 7 computer. I stated this in an earlier message.


-Original Message- 
From: Hayden Presley

Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:01 PM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

Hi Brian,
No, not inside the game folder. If you're using XP, the folder path you need
is: C:\DocumentsAndSettings\AllUsers\AplicationDData\BPCPrograms\TDV. Once
the system finds that path, you're good to go.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:56 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

Inside the game folder?
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From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV



Hi Brian,
Just create the path it's asking for, and you'll be good to go. HTH!

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:17 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

Ok, so I got my client ID within about half an hour or so. But when I
enter
it and click Download Lock, I get an error about an unhandled exception,
something about could not find a part of the path. I'd copy and paste the
actual message but it wouldn't let me. But when I click the Details button



I
do get pastable text which I'll include below. Hope I can figure this out
since I really wanna play Mission Mode.
   Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
   CodeBase:


file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a

/Accessibility.dll


** JIT Debugging **
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

configuration
   system.windows.forms jitDebugging=true /
/configuration

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.



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Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

2010-11-15 Thread Bryan Peterson
I'm using Windows Vista. It says cannot locate a part of the path 
c:\ProgramData\BPCPrograms\lic.tdv. I created that path and it didn't work.

We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - 
From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV



Hi Brian,
No, not inside the game folder. If you're using XP, the folder path you 
need

is: C:\DocumentsAndSettings\AllUsers\AplicationDData\BPCPrograms\TDV. Once
the system finds that path, you're good to go.

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:56 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

Inside the game folder?
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - 
From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV



Hi Brian,
Just create the path it's asking for, and you'll be good to go. HTH!

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:17 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

Ok, so I got my client ID within about half an hour or so. But when I
enter
it and click Download Lock, I get an error about an unhandled exception,
something about could not find a part of the path. I'd copy and paste the
actual message but it wouldn't let me. But when I click the Details 
button



I
do get pastable text which I'll include below. Hope I can figure this out
since I really wanna play Mission Mode.
   Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
   CodeBase:


file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a

/Accessibility.dll


** JIT Debugging **
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

configuration
   system.windows.forms jitDebugging=true /
/configuration

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.



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Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

2010-11-15 Thread Alfredo C

No, the path is: c:\ProgramData\BPCPrograms\TDV\lic.tdv.

-Original Message- 
From: Bryan Peterson

Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:08 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

I'm using Windows Vista. It says cannot locate a part of the path
c:\ProgramData\BPCPrograms\lic.tdv. I created that path and it didn't work.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - 
From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV



Hi Brian,
No, not inside the game folder. If you're using XP, the folder path you 
need

is: C:\DocumentsAndSettings\AllUsers\AplicationDData\BPCPrograms\TDV. Once
the system finds that path, you're good to go.

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:56 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

Inside the game folder?
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - 
From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV



Hi Brian,
Just create the path it's asking for, and you'll be good to go. HTH!

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:17 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

Ok, so I got my client ID within about half an hour or so. But when I
enter
it and click Download Lock, I get an error about an unhandled exception,
something about could not find a part of the path. I'd copy and paste the
actual message but it wouldn't let me. But when I click the Details 
button



I
do get pastable text which I'll include below. Hope I can figure this out
since I really wanna play Mission Mode.
   Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
   CodeBase:


file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a

/Accessibility.dll


** JIT Debugging **
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

configuration
   system.windows.forms jitDebugging=true /
/configuration

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.



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Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

2010-11-15 Thread Bryan Peterson
That's the point. I created that path. But when I click Download Loc after 
creating that path I still get the unhandled exception thingy.

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From: Alfredo C birdlover2...@hotmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV



No, the path is: c:\ProgramData\BPCPrograms\TDV\lic.tdv.

-Original Message- 
From: Bryan Peterson

Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:08 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

I'm using Windows Vista. It says cannot locate a part of the path
c:\ProgramData\BPCPrograms\lic.tdv. I created that path and it didn't 
work.

We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - 
From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV



Hi Brian,
No, not inside the game folder. If you're using XP, the folder path you 
need
is: C:\DocumentsAndSettings\AllUsers\AplicationDData\BPCPrograms\TDV. 
Once

the system finds that path, you're good to go.

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:56 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

Inside the game folder?
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - 
From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV



Hi Brian,
Just create the path it's asking for, and you'll be good to go. HTH!

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] 
On

Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:17 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

Ok, so I got my client ID within about half an hour or so. But when I
enter
it and click Download Lock, I get an error about an unhandled exception,
something about could not find a part of the path. I'd copy and paste 
the
actual message but it wouldn't let me. But when I click the Details 
button



I
do get pastable text which I'll include below. Hope I can figure this 
out

since I really wanna play Mission Mode.
   Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
   CodeBase:


file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a

/Accessibility.dll


** JIT Debugging **
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

configuration
   system.windows.forms jitDebugging=true /
/configuration

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.



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Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

2010-11-15 Thread Alfredo C
You said the path in your prior message was 
c:\ProgramData\BPCPrograms\lic.tdv. Did you put another folder inside 
bpcPrograms that said TDV?


-Original Message- 
From: Bryan Peterson

Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:11 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

That's the point. I created that path. But when I click Download Loc after
creating that path I still get the unhandled exception thingy.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - 
From: Alfredo C birdlover2...@hotmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV



No, the path is: c:\ProgramData\BPCPrograms\TDV\lic.tdv.

-Original Message- 
From: Bryan Peterson

Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:08 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

I'm using Windows Vista. It says cannot locate a part of the path
c:\ProgramData\BPCPrograms\lic.tdv. I created that path and it didn't 
work.

We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV



Hi Brian,
No, not inside the game folder. If you're using XP, the folder path you 
need
is: C:\DocumentsAndSettings\AllUsers\AplicationDData\BPCPrograms\TDV. 
Once

the system finds that path, you're good to go.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:56 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

Inside the game folder?
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV



Hi Brian,
Just create the path it's asking for, and you'll be good to go. HTH!

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] 
On

Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:17 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

Ok, so I got my client ID within about half an hour or so. But when I
enter
it and click Download Lock, I get an error about an unhandled exception,
something about could not find a part of the path. I'd copy and paste 
the
actual message but it wouldn't let me. But when I click the Details 
button



I
do get pastable text which I'll include below. Hope I can figure this 
out

since I really wanna play Mission Mode.
   Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
   CodeBase:


file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a

/Accessibility.dll


** JIT Debugging **
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

configuration
   system.windows.forms jitDebugging=true /
/configuration

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.



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Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

2010-11-15 Thread Zachary Kline

Hi Brian,
Double check that you indeed created the path precisely.  Omitting one 
folder will just confuse the issue.  If it can't find the path, then 
obviously something is wrong, most likely the path you thought was the 
right one really wasn't.

Hope this helps,
Zack.


On Mon, 15 Nov 2010, Bryan Peterson wrote:

That's the point. I created that path. But when I click Download Loc after 
creating that path I still get the unhandled exception thingy.

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- Original Message - From: Alfredo C birdlover2...@hotmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV



 No, the path is: c:\ProgramData\BPCPrograms\TDV\lic.tdv.

 -Original Message- From: Bryan Peterson
 Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:08 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

 I'm using Windows Vista. It says cannot locate a part of the path
 c:\ProgramData\BPCPrograms\lic.tdv. I created that path and it didn't
 work.
 We are the Knights who say...Ni!
 - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley
 hdpres...@hotmail.com
 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV


  Hi Brian,
  No, not inside the game folder. If you're using XP, the folder path you 
  need
  is: C:\DocumentsAndSettings\AllUsers\AplicationDData\BPCPrograms\TDV. 
  Once

  the system finds that path, you're good to go.
 
  Best Regards,

  Hayden
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] 
  On

  Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
  Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:56 PM
  To: Gamers Discussion list
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV
 
  Inside the game folder?

  We are the Knights who say...Ni!
  - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley 
  hdpres...@hotmail.com

  To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
  Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV
 
 
   Hi Brian,

   Just create the path it's asking for, and you'll be good to go. HTH!
  
   Best Regards,

   Hayden
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] 
   On

   Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
   Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:17 PM
   To: Gamers Discussion list
   Subject: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV
  
   Ok, so I got my client ID within about half an hour or so. But when I

   enter
   it and click Download Lock, I get an error about an unhandled 
   exception,
   something about could not find a part of the path. I'd copy and paste 
   the
   actual message but it wouldn't let me. But when I click the Details 
   button
 
   I
   do get pastable text which I'll include below. Hope I can figure this 
   out

   since I really wanna play Mission Mode.
  Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
  CodeBase:
  
  file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a

   /Accessibility.dll
   
  
   ** JIT Debugging **

   To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
   application or computer (machine.config) must have the
   jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
   The application must also be compiled with debugging
   enabled.
  
   For example:
  
   configuration

  system.windows.forms jitDebugging=true /
   /configuration
  
   When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception

   will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
   rather than be handled by this dialog box.
  
  
  
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Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

2010-11-15 Thread Orin

Hi,

An easy way to get to your Application Data folder is to go to the run 
dialogue and type:

%appdata%
That's part of the path. In that app data folder, create a folder called
BPCPrograms
And then a TDV folder.

Put your Lic.tdv file in there and hopefully it'll work. Still downloading 
my copy.
- Original Message - 
From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV



Hi Alfredo,
The only thing I can suggest is to find the relevant path to the XP path I
gave, sense I do not recollect the new folder names. Sorry that's all I 
can

say

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Alfredo C
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:57 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

I just realized that I have to have another client ID generated for my n
netbook. Is there a way I can do this without having to reorder? I want to
get started on this game.


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Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

2010-11-15 Thread Bryan Peterson
I just noticed that. So I deleted that lic.tdv folder and created the TDV 
folder in its place. I got the success message so hopefully that's taken 
care of it. I believe the proper phrase is...d'oh...

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- Original Message - 
From: Alfredo C birdlover2...@hotmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV


You said the path in your prior message was 
c:\ProgramData\BPCPrograms\lic.tdv. Did you put another folder inside 
bpcPrograms that said TDV?


-Original Message- 
From: Bryan Peterson

Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:11 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

That's the point. I created that path. But when I click Download Loc after
creating that path I still get the unhandled exception thingy.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - 
From: Alfredo C birdlover2...@hotmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV



No, the path is: c:\ProgramData\BPCPrograms\TDV\lic.tdv.

-Original Message- 
From: Bryan Peterson

Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:08 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

I'm using Windows Vista. It says cannot locate a part of the path
c:\ProgramData\BPCPrograms\lic.tdv. I created that path and it didn't 
work.

We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV



Hi Brian,
No, not inside the game folder. If you're using XP, the folder path you 
need
is: C:\DocumentsAndSettings\AllUsers\AplicationDData\BPCPrograms\TDV. 
Once

the system finds that path, you're good to go.

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] 
On

Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:56 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

Inside the game folder?
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV



Hi Brian,
Just create the path it's asking for, and you'll be good to go. HTH!

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] 
On

Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:17 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

Ok, so I got my client ID within about half an hour or so. But when I
enter
it and click Download Lock, I get an error about an unhandled 
exception,
something about could not find a part of the path. I'd copy and paste 
the
actual message but it wouldn't let me. But when I click the Details 
button



I
do get pastable text which I'll include below. Hope I can figure this 
out

since I really wanna play Mission Mode.
   Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
   CodeBase:


file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a

/Accessibility.dll


** JIT Debugging **
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

configuration
   system.windows.forms jitDebugging=true /
/configuration

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.



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Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

2010-11-15 Thread Zachary Kline

Hi Alfredo,
I'd check with BPC tech support about that particular issue. 
supp...@bpcprograms.com is the address you want, I believe.

Best,
Zack.


On Mon, 15 Nov 2010, Alfredo C wrote:

Ok I do have xp, but the problem was that I got a generated client key for my 
Windows 7 computer. I stated this in an earlier message.


-Original Message- From: Hayden Presley
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:01 PM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

Hi Brian,
No, not inside the game folder. If you're using XP, the folder path you need
is: C:\DocumentsAndSettings\AllUsers\AplicationDData\BPCPrograms\TDV. Once
the system finds that path, you're good to go.

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:56 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

Inside the game folder?
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV



 Hi Brian,
 Just create the path it's asking for, and you'll be good to go. HTH!

 Best Regards,
 Hayden


 -Original Message-
 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
 Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
 Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:17 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: [Audyssey] Problem registering TDV

 Ok, so I got my client ID within about half an hour or so. But when I
 enter
 it and click Download Lock, I get an error about an unhandled exception,
 something about could not find a part of the path. I'd copy and paste the
 actual message but it wouldn't let me. But when I click the Details button



 I
 do get pastable text which I'll include below. Hope I can figure this out
 since I really wanna play Mission Mode.
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4016 (NetFxQFE.050727-4000)
CodeBase:


file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a

 /Accessibility.dll
 

 ** JIT Debugging **
 To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
 application or computer (machine.config) must have the
 jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
 The application must also be compiled with debugging
 enabled.

 For example:

 configuration
system.windows.forms jitDebugging=true /
 /configuration

 When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
 will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
 rather than be handled by this dialog box.



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[Audyssey] New TDV registration patch

2010-11-15 Thread Orin
Hey all,

There's a new reg patch to download that I assume will fix all the reg problems 
with the automated way to register.

It's at the TDV download page.

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Re: [Audyssey] Ten Pin Alley help

2010-11-15 Thread Gary Whittington

Don't know.
I may have tried installing it, and I think it wanted the service pack  2 
installed.

Its a window installer issue Charles on my machine.
AS Jaws and Internet  explorer have crashed during installation.
Gary
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Ten Pin Alley help



Service pack 2??  Why not 3?

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Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Ten Pin Alley help



Thanks, old buddy.
Just been on a good streak of getting things done lately.
My voice web site recorder got a big step forward.
And you can beta test it for me at
shadowbeam.com

But really, things were just were falling down like bowling pins lately.

So, I thought what the any hell.  Been a while forking out some cash on a 
blind game.

Got to play a game with myself ding four practice players.
Gee, thought Gary would been a name the game would known.
I am using the newly demo form the site, so it must be version 1.2.
And the game is on my secondary hard drive.
But it must been having some work on my vista computer that fix the 
problem I was having to start up the game.
I still need to reformat my main drive to get the service pack 2 on this 
machine.

That will allow me to up date the IE and Jaws.
Stuck on 7 for IE and jaws ten.
That is a large project where I am backing up files when I have time.
But its nice to finish up little things like TPA.

And now its working, I can consider hosting on FTP a bowling night.

Again tthanks for the reply, and talk to you later.

Crash
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Ten Pin Alley help



Hi Gary,
I think Ten Pin Alley 1.2 is designed to work with Vista and Windows 7. 
But if you lost your registration key, you are now required to pay full 
price.

That is the Draconis policy as of last year.
I do not have the old registration keys, except for the Sarah game.
That's the only game that I can look up your key and send it to you if 
you lost it.

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Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv

2010-11-15 Thread Charles Rivard
I would think this to be a fault of the game developers.  Anyway, most of 
the games for blind gamers aren't that way, at least the ones I play.  I 
appreciate the user's manuals, I use them, and strongly encourage others to 
do so in order to eliminate needless questions that clutter my inbox.


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Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv


Yeah, that's a fair point. But mainstream games don't give you much.. the 
user manual is a booklet with instructions on how to set the game up, and 
the very very basics. Doesn't cover anything too useful. lol.


At 06:28 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:
If you don't consult the number one source of helpful information and 
instruction on game play that the game developer took the time and effort 
to produce and provide for you, then it's your own fault and nobody 
else's. That's what it's there for, isn't it?  If you are one of those who 
just dives right in without first getting assistance that you might need 
in a very short time, and you get stuck, and you still don't check the 
user's guide, that's your own problem, and that's what you get for not 
looking before you leap.  I wonder how many complaints there would be if a 
game were to come out that included no keystroke lists or no instructions 
of any kind? Maybe this should be done to show their importance?  Then 
again, that wouldn't be fair to those who actually take the time to go 
through them, but it's a thought.


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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv


Yeah, but unfortunately... not everyone has that. And to most people, 
games are just the thing where you grab the game and just get right into 
it and the only thing you have to read is walkthroughs and guides. Never 
once do they consult the user's manual.


At 06:07 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:
Well thankyou. Thankyouverymuch. LOL. But really, it's no more than good 
old-fashioned common sense.

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Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv


My view exactly. Thanks for voicing exactly what I feel... but I felt 
someone who was able to describe it in more, uh, polite ways than me 
should handle it. lol.


At 05:39 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:
They usually do if one bothers to read. And this is exactly why one 
shouldn't dive right into a game without first reading up on it.

We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] registering tdv


Hmm. Doesn't the manual tell you this? I haven't gotten the game 
itself yet because my computer doesn't want to cooperate... but I 
would've thought that the manual had instructions.


At 05:31 PM 15/11/2010, you wrote:
hey how do you get the product key to put in the blank so you can 
get a license for the game?


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Re: [Audyssey] New TDV registration patch

2010-11-15 Thread Alfredo C

Hello,
I have downloaded the patch from the site and pasted the client ID and hit 
the download buttons once again. When I launched the game, the same message 
that said, This game is not registered, and will run in demo mode... So I 
am wondering, do I have to uninstall everything and then reinstall, or do I 
delete the BPCPrograms folder I made with the lic.tdv and edownload again?

Alfredo

-Original Message- 
From: Orin

Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:33 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] New TDV registration patch

Hey all,

There's a new reg patch to download that I assume will fix all the reg 
problems with the automated way to register.


It's at the TDV download page.

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Re: [Audyssey] New TDV registration patch

2010-11-15 Thread Alfredo C
Ok, I have done what I have said in that prior message, and unfortunately, 
it is not working for me.


-Original Message- 
From: Alfredo C

Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:50 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New TDV registration patch

Hello,
I have downloaded the patch from the site and pasted the client ID and hit
the download buttons once again. When I launched the game, the same message
that said, This game is not registered, and will run in demo mode... So I
am wondering, do I have to uninstall everything and then reinstall, or do I
delete the BPCPrograms folder I made with the lic.tdv and edownload again?
Alfredo

-Original Message- 
From: Orin

Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:33 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] New TDV registration patch

Hey all,

There's a new reg patch to download that I assume will fix all the reg
problems with the automated way to register.

It's at the TDV download page.

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Re: [Audyssey] New TDV registration patch

2010-11-15 Thread Zachary Kline

Hi Alfredo,
Which computer are you trying this on?  The Win XP machine or Win 7?
Best,
Zack.


On Mon, 15 Nov 2010, Alfredo C wrote:

Ok, I have done what I have said in that prior message, and unfortunately, it 
is not working for me.


-Original Message- From: Alfredo C
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:50 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New TDV registration patch

Hello,
I have downloaded the patch from the site and pasted the client ID and hit
the download buttons once again. When I launched the game, the same message
that said, This game is not registered, and will run in demo mode... So I
am wondering, do I have to uninstall everything and then reinstall, or do I
delete the BPCPrograms folder I made with the lic.tdv and edownload again?
Alfredo

-Original Message- From: Orin
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:33 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] New TDV registration patch

Hey all,

There's a new reg patch to download that I assume will fix all the reg
problems with the automated way to register.

It's at the TDV download page.

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Re: [Audyssey] New TDV registration patch

2010-11-15 Thread Orin

You can click the place lock file here and put the file there.

Or does it put it there for you...


- Original Message - 
From: Alfredo C birdlover2...@hotmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New TDV registration patch



Hello,
I have downloaded the patch from the site and pasted the client ID and hit 
the download buttons once again. When I launched the game, the same 
message that said, This game is not registered, and will run in demo 
mode... So I am wondering, do I have to uninstall everything and then 
reinstall, or do I delete the BPCPrograms folder I made with the lic.tdv 
and edownload again?

Alfredo

-Original Message- 
From: Orin

Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:33 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] New TDV registration patch

Hey all,

There's a new reg patch to download that I assume will fix all the reg 
problems with the automated way to register.


It's at the TDV download page.

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Re: [Audyssey] New TDV registration patch

2010-11-15 Thread Alfredo C

windows 7, but I just sent BPC a message about getting a new one for my XP

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Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New TDV registration patch

Hi Alfredo,
Which computer are you trying this on?  The Win XP machine or Win 7?
Best,
Zack.


On Mon, 15 Nov 2010, Alfredo C wrote:

Ok, I have done what I have said in that prior message, and unfortunately, 
it is not working for me.


-Original Message- From: Alfredo C
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:50 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New TDV registration patch

Hello,
I have downloaded the patch from the site and pasted the client ID and hit
the download buttons once again. When I launched the game, the same 
message
that said, This game is not registered, and will run in demo mode... So 
I
am wondering, do I have to uninstall everything and then reinstall, or do 
I

delete the BPCPrograms folder I made with the lic.tdv and edownload again?
Alfredo

-Original Message- From: Orin
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:33 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] New TDV registration patch

Hey all,

There's a new reg patch to download that I assume will fix all the reg
problems with the automated way to register.

It's at the TDV download page.

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Re: [Audyssey] New TDV registration patch

2010-11-15 Thread Alfredo C
It puts it in there for you, but it is not working on my machine for some 
reason.


-Original Message- 
From: Orin

Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:53 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New TDV registration patch

You can click the place lock file here and put the file there.

Or does it put it there for you...


- Original Message - 
From: Alfredo C birdlover2...@hotmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New TDV registration patch



Hello,
I have downloaded the patch from the site and pasted the client ID and hit 
the download buttons once again. When I launched the game, the same 
message that said, This game is not registered, and will run in demo 
mode... So I am wondering, do I have to uninstall everything and then 
reinstall, or do I delete the BPCPrograms folder I made with the lic.tdv 
and edownload again?

Alfredo

-Original Message- 
From: Orin

Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:33 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] New TDV registration patch

Hey all,

There's a new reg patch to download that I assume will fix all the reg 
problems with the automated way to register.


It's at the TDV download page.

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