Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye
and from what I understand, coming to the game as a noob, while not as hard as hardcore, I imagine is certainly more difficult than later when you've got advs to burn. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Shadow Dragon" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye I never said you couldn't spend that much time on the game, but that's not the intent of the game, from what the devs have said on various radio shows and forum posts. I can usually get between 150 to 200 adventures per day, the game's not that hard if you're playing in normal or casual mode and can check out the wiki and utilize the mall. But if you're playing the game as it was intended to be played via hardcore mode, things get rather intensely difficult. Not impossible, but definitely more than what I would call challenging. -- From: "Yohandy" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:46 AM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye I spend a couple hours per day on the game. I not only adventure, but I also chat and trade. it's rather fun. I can usually get over 200 adventures daily. Anyone can, if you know the right combination of food, drink, and spleen items. - Original Message - From: "Shadow Dragon" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye What I meant by casual play is its supposed to take only a little time per day. There's always been an adventure cap, and I doubt the devs will ever lift it, especially, as much as I absolutely loathe saying it, with the leaderboards and such being implimented. Its possible that if we could actually get in touch with one of the devs, not their secretary, and suggest a mode that you could play to lift the adventure cap that would remove you from the leaderboards, they might be up for it, I'm not certain. But that'd be hard if not impossible to do. Mr. Accessories give 15 to all attributes. If you're not aware, you can click on any item name and it'll bring up a pop-up window that will show you exactly what said item does, along with a usually amusing description of it. This works in stores as well, though I think generally in stores you have to click on the immage rather than the item name, which is an onclick graphic. Its accessible though, at least with jaws, so I imagine hal shouldn't have too much trouble with it. -------------- From: "dark" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:24 AM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye H, are the Mr. Accesseries really that powerful? I'm not above making a donation if it will increase my enjoyment of the game and make things less frustrating. in fact, I was also rather tempted by the KoL statue set, sinse I have a large collection flat of fantasy and mythological statues in my flat, (including my Lotr chess set). My problem with the adventure cap, is that it just seems to make accomplishments less worthy. If i take up one of those collection expeditions, such as for the Bounty hunter hunter or the pixel man in the shack near the forest, I go out and do a bit of combat grinding for some items which perhaps takes a hole day's worth of adventures. then I get back, and get rewarded with a 1 adventure stat booster or some food which gives 10 extra ats. Even if the game started out as a casual play, the cap on advss just makes it frustrating for me to play it this way now. I wouldn't mind too much if the 200 adv cap was lifted, and so you could actually use food or booze to build up a store of advs, - but the way things are, you just don't seem to get enough bang for your booze as you might say. It's actually a compliment to the devs that a casual game has such a lot to offer, though it practically makes things a tad frustrating. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@a
Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye
Yeah, I've never made it past the nob goblin king sinse you need to be wearing the harem outfit to fight him, and even beafing up with what boosting food, drinks and other effects i could find wasn't doing the trick. I wouldn't have minded too much if I could've taken my own time to go and explore and find a way to beat him, but getting constantly pounded for literally several days was rather disheartening at the very least. Trading just doesn't interest me, and while I don't mind chatting in a game, I'd much rather be exploring or adventuring, - sinse afterall, I can chat to people all I want at other times. I suppose I'm just the lone adventurer type of person, lol! Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Shadow Dragon" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye Its hard, no question. Especailly if you don't feel like spending your 40 adventures per day grinding equipment. When you get up into the later enemies, things start being able to one or 2 shot you, and a lot of the bosses become nearly impossible. I'm determined to complete this hardcore run though, its obviously not impossible, but I can see the one shot stuff being rather offputting to newbies. -- From: "Yohandy" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:43 AM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye when I started out, I didn't use any rares at all. And it wasn't too difficult. You do have weak equipment when you first play, but you get better stuff later on. Dark, I really suggest you check out the wiki. anything you'd ever want to know about the game is documented there. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye H, are the Mr. Accesseries really that powerful? I'm not above making a donation if it will increase my enjoyment of the game and make things less frustrating. in fact, I was also rather tempted by the KoL statue set, sinse I have a large collection flat of fantasy and mythological statues in my flat, (including my Lotr chess set). My problem with the adventure cap, is that it just seems to make accomplishments less worthy. If i take up one of those collection expeditions, such as for the Bounty hunter hunter or the pixel man in the shack near the forest, I go out and do a bit of combat grinding for some items which perhaps takes a hole day's worth of adventures. then I get back, and get rewarded with a 1 adventure stat booster or some food which gives 10 extra ats. Even if the game started out as a casual play, the cap on advss just makes it frustrating for me to play it this way now. I wouldn't mind too much if the 200 adv cap was lifted, and so you could actually use food or booze to build up a store of advs, - but the way things are, you just don't seem to get enough bang for your booze as you might say. It's actually a compliment to the devs that a casual game has such a lot to offer, though it practically makes things a tad frustrating. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message ----- From: "Shadow Dragon" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye The problem with discovering powerful items and such on your own is that there really aren't any in the plot itself, all the ones worth having are either obtained as items of the month, ultrarares, which aren't just a really rare item drop but have a lot of backing mechanics to ensure they won't flood the market, and ascention rewards for things like playing through hardcore mode. It's a really tough game, and honestly I'm not sure how to tell someone to get started as a newbie since I've never played through a run without Mr. Accessories or other stat boosting gear to help. I'm trying a hardcore run right now, and having a lot of trouble with it since I can't use said power items and have to rely on the equipment I pick up in game. Its more than a difficult game, especially given its limitations on adventures. Really I'm not sure what to tell you on the daily adventures thing, since the cap for built up adventures is 200, and the only way to go over that in any way is to eat food or drink booze, which gives you turns over that cap but said turns disappear at nightly rollover. Unlike warriors2, its not a game meant to allow you to play through at your le
Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye
I never said you couldn't spend that much time on the game, but that's not the intent of the game, from what the devs have said on various radio shows and forum posts. I can usually get between 150 to 200 adventures per day, the game's not that hard if you're playing in normal or casual mode and can check out the wiki and utilize the mall. But if you're playing the game as it was intended to be played via hardcore mode, things get rather intensely difficult. Not impossible, but definitely more than what I would call challenging. -- From: "Yohandy" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:46 AM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye I spend a couple hours per day on the game. I not only adventure, but I also chat and trade. it's rather fun. I can usually get over 200 adventures daily. Anyone can, if you know the right combination of food, drink, and spleen items. - Original Message - From: "Shadow Dragon" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye What I meant by casual play is its supposed to take only a little time per day. There's always been an adventure cap, and I doubt the devs will ever lift it, especially, as much as I absolutely loathe saying it, with the leaderboards and such being implimented. Its possible that if we could actually get in touch with one of the devs, not their secretary, and suggest a mode that you could play to lift the adventure cap that would remove you from the leaderboards, they might be up for it, I'm not certain. But that'd be hard if not impossible to do. Mr. Accessories give 15 to all attributes. If you're not aware, you can click on any item name and it'll bring up a pop-up window that will show you exactly what said item does, along with a usually amusing description of it. This works in stores as well, though I think generally in stores you have to click on the immage rather than the item name, which is an onclick graphic. Its accessible though, at least with jaws, so I imagine hal shouldn't have too much trouble with it. -- From: "dark" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:24 AM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye H, are the Mr. Accesseries really that powerful? I'm not above making a donation if it will increase my enjoyment of the game and make things less frustrating. in fact, I was also rather tempted by the KoL statue set, sinse I have a large collection flat of fantasy and mythological statues in my flat, (including my Lotr chess set). My problem with the adventure cap, is that it just seems to make accomplishments less worthy. If i take up one of those collection expeditions, such as for the Bounty hunter hunter or the pixel man in the shack near the forest, I go out and do a bit of combat grinding for some items which perhaps takes a hole day's worth of adventures. then I get back, and get rewarded with a 1 adventure stat booster or some food which gives 10 extra ats. Even if the game started out as a casual play, the cap on advss just makes it frustrating for me to play it this way now. I wouldn't mind too much if the 200 adv cap was lifted, and so you could actually use food or booze to build up a store of advs, - but the way things are, you just don't seem to get enough bang for your booze as you might say. It's actually a compliment to the devs that a casual game has such a lot to offer, though it practically makes things a tad frustrating. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If
Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye
Its hard, no question. Especailly if you don't feel like spending your 40 adventures per day grinding equipment. When you get up into the later enemies, things start being able to one or 2 shot you, and a lot of the bosses become nearly impossible. I'm determined to complete this hardcore run though, its obviously not impossible, but I can see the one shot stuff being rather offputting to newbies. -- From: "Yohandy" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:43 AM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye when I started out, I didn't use any rares at all. And it wasn't too difficult. You do have weak equipment when you first play, but you get better stuff later on. Dark, I really suggest you check out the wiki. anything you'd ever want to know about the game is documented there. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye H, are the Mr. Accesseries really that powerful? I'm not above making a donation if it will increase my enjoyment of the game and make things less frustrating. in fact, I was also rather tempted by the KoL statue set, sinse I have a large collection flat of fantasy and mythological statues in my flat, (including my Lotr chess set). My problem with the adventure cap, is that it just seems to make accomplishments less worthy. If i take up one of those collection expeditions, such as for the Bounty hunter hunter or the pixel man in the shack near the forest, I go out and do a bit of combat grinding for some items which perhaps takes a hole day's worth of adventures. then I get back, and get rewarded with a 1 adventure stat booster or some food which gives 10 extra ats. Even if the game started out as a casual play, the cap on advss just makes it frustrating for me to play it this way now. I wouldn't mind too much if the 200 adv cap was lifted, and so you could actually use food or booze to build up a store of advs, - but the way things are, you just don't seem to get enough bang for your booze as you might say. It's actually a compliment to the devs that a casual game has such a lot to offer, though it practically makes things a tad frustrating. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Shadow Dragon" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye The problem with discovering powerful items and such on your own is that there really aren't any in the plot itself, all the ones worth having are either obtained as items of the month, ultrarares, which aren't just a really rare item drop but have a lot of backing mechanics to ensure they won't flood the market, and ascention rewards for things like playing through hardcore mode. It's a really tough game, and honestly I'm not sure how to tell someone to get started as a newbie since I've never played through a run without Mr. Accessories or other stat boosting gear to help. I'm trying a hardcore run right now, and having a lot of trouble with it since I can't use said power items and have to rely on the equipment I pick up in game. Its more than a difficult game, especially given its limitations on adventures. Really I'm not sure what to tell you on the daily adventures thing, since the cap for built up adventures is 200, and the only way to go over that in any way is to eat food or drink booze, which gives you turns over that cap but said turns disappear at nightly rollover. Unlike warriors2, its not a game meant to allow you to play through at your leasure, its kind of a daily game you spend 5 minutes or so on, or let your turns build up and play for an hour when you feel like it. More of a casual game than a game to really get quests done or explore dungeons. -------------------------- From: "dark" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:38 AM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye When I played before, people were kind enough to lend me even some slightly good items and amounts of meet, - in fact I found KoL's player base on average to be a fairly nice bunch. Generally though, I'd much prefer advice over powerful items, sinse I do like the discovery of such things myself. The food and booze system for extra adventures has always struck me as mildly unfair, sinse I find myself spending large amounts of currency for any given food or booze item, which doesn't then get recooped in my adventuring, --
Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye
I spend a couple hours per day on the game. I not only adventure, but I also chat and trade. it's rather fun. I can usually get over 200 adventures daily. Anyone can, if you know the right combination of food, drink, and spleen items. - Original Message - From: "Shadow Dragon" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye What I meant by casual play is its supposed to take only a little time per day. There's always been an adventure cap, and I doubt the devs will ever lift it, especially, as much as I absolutely loathe saying it, with the leaderboards and such being implimented. Its possible that if we could actually get in touch with one of the devs, not their secretary, and suggest a mode that you could play to lift the adventure cap that would remove you from the leaderboards, they might be up for it, I'm not certain. But that'd be hard if not impossible to do. Mr. Accessories give 15 to all attributes. If you're not aware, you can click on any item name and it'll bring up a pop-up window that will show you exactly what said item does, along with a usually amusing description of it. This works in stores as well, though I think generally in stores you have to click on the immage rather than the item name, which is an onclick graphic. Its accessible though, at least with jaws, so I imagine hal shouldn't have too much trouble with it. -- From: "dark" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:24 AM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye H, are the Mr. Accesseries really that powerful? I'm not above making a donation if it will increase my enjoyment of the game and make things less frustrating. in fact, I was also rather tempted by the KoL statue set, sinse I have a large collection flat of fantasy and mythological statues in my flat, (including my Lotr chess set). My problem with the adventure cap, is that it just seems to make accomplishments less worthy. If i take up one of those collection expeditions, such as for the Bounty hunter hunter or the pixel man in the shack near the forest, I go out and do a bit of combat grinding for some items which perhaps takes a hole day's worth of adventures. then I get back, and get rewarded with a 1 adventure stat booster or some food which gives 10 extra ats. Even if the game started out as a casual play, the cap on advss just makes it frustrating for me to play it this way now. I wouldn't mind too much if the 200 adv cap was lifted, and so you could actually use food or booze to build up a store of advs, - but the way things are, you just don't seem to get enough bang for your booze as you might say. It's actually a compliment to the devs that a casual game has such a lot to offer, though it practically makes things a tad frustrating. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye
when I started out, I didn't use any rares at all. And it wasn't too difficult. You do have weak equipment when you first play, but you get better stuff later on. Dark, I really suggest you check out the wiki. anything you'd ever want to know about the game is documented there. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye H, are the Mr. Accesseries really that powerful? I'm not above making a donation if it will increase my enjoyment of the game and make things less frustrating. in fact, I was also rather tempted by the KoL statue set, sinse I have a large collection flat of fantasy and mythological statues in my flat, (including my Lotr chess set). My problem with the adventure cap, is that it just seems to make accomplishments less worthy. If i take up one of those collection expeditions, such as for the Bounty hunter hunter or the pixel man in the shack near the forest, I go out and do a bit of combat grinding for some items which perhaps takes a hole day's worth of adventures. then I get back, and get rewarded with a 1 adventure stat booster or some food which gives 10 extra ats. Even if the game started out as a casual play, the cap on advss just makes it frustrating for me to play it this way now. I wouldn't mind too much if the 200 adv cap was lifted, and so you could actually use food or booze to build up a store of advs, - but the way things are, you just don't seem to get enough bang for your booze as you might say. It's actually a compliment to the devs that a casual game has such a lot to offer, though it practically makes things a tad frustrating. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Shadow Dragon" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye The problem with discovering powerful items and such on your own is that there really aren't any in the plot itself, all the ones worth having are either obtained as items of the month, ultrarares, which aren't just a really rare item drop but have a lot of backing mechanics to ensure they won't flood the market, and ascention rewards for things like playing through hardcore mode. It's a really tough game, and honestly I'm not sure how to tell someone to get started as a newbie since I've never played through a run without Mr. Accessories or other stat boosting gear to help. I'm trying a hardcore run right now, and having a lot of trouble with it since I can't use said power items and have to rely on the equipment I pick up in game. Its more than a difficult game, especially given its limitations on adventures. Really I'm not sure what to tell you on the daily adventures thing, since the cap for built up adventures is 200, and the only way to go over that in any way is to eat food or drink booze, which gives you turns over that cap but said turns disappear at nightly rollover. Unlike warriors2, its not a game meant to allow you to play through at your leasure, its kind of a daily game you spend 5 minutes or so on, or let your turns build up and play for an hour when you feel like it. More of a casual game than a game to really get quests done or explore dungeons. -------------- From: "dark" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:38 AM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye When I played before, people were kind enough to lend me even some slightly good items and amounts of meet, - in fact I found KoL's player base on average to be a fairly nice bunch. Generally though, I'd much prefer advice over powerful items, sinse I do like the discovery of such things myself. The food and booze system for extra adventures has always struck me as mildly unfair, sinse I find myself spending large amounts of currency for any given food or booze item, which doesn't then get recooped in my adventuring, so I'm always in fact opperating at a loss. If KoL had a donation system similar to Warriors 2, where donating to the game could give extra dayly adventures I'd probably have been much more inclined to persist with it. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or co
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I've had your original E-mail about monster breeder sitting in my in box for several days now. The only reason I haven't begun on the game is I've been pretty taken up with work, a couple of graphical games, and watching a lot of star trek Voyager. I do intend to give it a try though, both as part of my audiogames.net reviewing duties (which I admittedly have slightly neglected recently), and because I rather fancy the game. Don't worry about sounding arrogant, at least i know you know what things make a game uninteresting, and so will avoid those, PlussWell, if the descriptions are! pants, I know where me and my favourite knee capping hammer can find you, - lol! Beware the Grue! Dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye
Yeah, me too, hence why I don't actualy play KoL that often, just when there's nothing else available I haven't played or some new content comes along or, ya know, I'm bored. haha. Given that you like exploration, I'm surprised you didn't give monster breeders a try, its got gigantic maps, each city is different, there's several different types of quests besides just your classic collection or kill these quests, even a rather simplistic yet amusing storyline. And there's a lot of towns and multiple modes of transportation, airships, trains, submarine, you name it. Battle system is pretty cool too, and sounds like it'll be getting even more depth here soon. Even monsters will soon have descriptions, hopefully soon, thanks to a discussion I had with the dev, so when a monster attacks it won't just be as you wander throughout the land, you encounter blah, each monster will have its own unique couple of rising up and coming at you messages, so you get a basic idea of what said monster is and how it's attacking since obviously, we can't see the artwork. At risk of sounding arrogant, I'm writing the descs for the developer, so when they go in I can assure you they'll at least be decent. -- From: "dark" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:53 AM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye yes, items were indeed clickable with hal, including in stores, I just found it slightly difficult to actually boost stats, sinse there seemed innumerable items with the same stat boosts. Perhaps the Mr. Accessery would help, particularly in fights. As I have exactly zero interest in the leader board, that option would deffinately sute me, but as you said, it's doubtful it'd be implemented in the game. I suppose I just prefer to get entirely into a game for a longer period of time, rather than having to spend a set amount each day on it, especially if i'm trying to explore new content or complete a mission. This is again, probably a personality thing. I absolutely love exploring a big map with random encounters on the various squares, and am quite content to spend a long time traveling or exploring so long as it will get me somewhere. This was one thing I thought was great both in Fallthru, and in the early versions of Sryth, - the real sense of distance, as well as the world itself. I suppose this comes from reading the hobbit and lotr at the age of five, - lol! Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye
yes, items were indeed clickable with hal, including in stores, I just found it slightly difficult to actually boost stats, sinse there seemed innumerable items with the same stat boosts. Perhaps the Mr. Accessery would help, particularly in fights. As I have exactly zero interest in the leader board, that option would deffinately sute me, but as you said, it's doubtful it'd be implemented in the game. I suppose I just prefer to get entirely into a game for a longer period of time, rather than having to spend a set amount each day on it, especially if i'm trying to explore new content or complete a mission. This is again, probably a personality thing. I absolutely love exploring a big map with random encounters on the various squares, and am quite content to spend a long time traveling or exploring so long as it will get me somewhere. This was one thing I thought was great both in Fallthru, and in the early versions of Sryth, - the real sense of distance, as well as the world itself. I suppose this comes from reading the hobbit and lotr at the age of five, - lol! Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye
What I meant by casual play is its supposed to take only a little time per day. There's always been an adventure cap, and I doubt the devs will ever lift it, especially, as much as I absolutely loathe saying it, with the leaderboards and such being implimented. Its possible that if we could actually get in touch with one of the devs, not their secretary, and suggest a mode that you could play to lift the adventure cap that would remove you from the leaderboards, they might be up for it, I'm not certain. But that'd be hard if not impossible to do. Mr. Accessories give 15 to all attributes. If you're not aware, you can click on any item name and it'll bring up a pop-up window that will show you exactly what said item does, along with a usually amusing description of it. This works in stores as well, though I think generally in stores you have to click on the immage rather than the item name, which is an onclick graphic. Its accessible though, at least with jaws, so I imagine hal shouldn't have too much trouble with it. -- From: "dark" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:24 AM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye H, are the Mr. Accesseries really that powerful? I'm not above making a donation if it will increase my enjoyment of the game and make things less frustrating. in fact, I was also rather tempted by the KoL statue set, sinse I have a large collection flat of fantasy and mythological statues in my flat, (including my Lotr chess set). My problem with the adventure cap, is that it just seems to make accomplishments less worthy. If i take up one of those collection expeditions, such as for the Bounty hunter hunter or the pixel man in the shack near the forest, I go out and do a bit of combat grinding for some items which perhaps takes a hole day's worth of adventures. then I get back, and get rewarded with a 1 adventure stat booster or some food which gives 10 extra ats. Even if the game started out as a casual play, the cap on advss just makes it frustrating for me to play it this way now. I wouldn't mind too much if the 200 adv cap was lifted, and so you could actually use food or booze to build up a store of advs, - but the way things are, you just don't seem to get enough bang for your booze as you might say. It's actually a compliment to the devs that a casual game has such a lot to offer, though it practically makes things a tad frustrating. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye
H, are the Mr. Accesseries really that powerful? I'm not above making a donation if it will increase my enjoyment of the game and make things less frustrating. in fact, I was also rather tempted by the KoL statue set, sinse I have a large collection flat of fantasy and mythological statues in my flat, (including my Lotr chess set). My problem with the adventure cap, is that it just seems to make accomplishments less worthy. If i take up one of those collection expeditions, such as for the Bounty hunter hunter or the pixel man in the shack near the forest, I go out and do a bit of combat grinding for some items which perhaps takes a hole day's worth of adventures. then I get back, and get rewarded with a 1 adventure stat booster or some food which gives 10 extra ats. Even if the game started out as a casual play, the cap on advss just makes it frustrating for me to play it this way now. I wouldn't mind too much if the 200 adv cap was lifted, and so you could actually use food or booze to build up a store of advs, - but the way things are, you just don't seem to get enough bang for your booze as you might say. It's actually a compliment to the devs that a casual game has such a lot to offer, though it practically makes things a tad frustrating. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Shadow Dragon" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye The problem with discovering powerful items and such on your own is that there really aren't any in the plot itself, all the ones worth having are either obtained as items of the month, ultrarares, which aren't just a really rare item drop but have a lot of backing mechanics to ensure they won't flood the market, and ascention rewards for things like playing through hardcore mode. It's a really tough game, and honestly I'm not sure how to tell someone to get started as a newbie since I've never played through a run without Mr. Accessories or other stat boosting gear to help. I'm trying a hardcore run right now, and having a lot of trouble with it since I can't use said power items and have to rely on the equipment I pick up in game. Its more than a difficult game, especially given its limitations on adventures. Really I'm not sure what to tell you on the daily adventures thing, since the cap for built up adventures is 200, and the only way to go over that in any way is to eat food or drink booze, which gives you turns over that cap but said turns disappear at nightly rollover. Unlike warriors2, its not a game meant to allow you to play through at your leasure, its kind of a daily game you spend 5 minutes or so on, or let your turns build up and play for an hour when you feel like it. More of a casual game than a game to really get quests done or explore dungeons. -- From: "dark" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:38 AM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye When I played before, people were kind enough to lend me even some slightly good items and amounts of meet, - in fact I found KoL's player base on average to be a fairly nice bunch. Generally though, I'd much prefer advice over powerful items, sinse I do like the discovery of such things myself. The food and booze system for extra adventures has always struck me as mildly unfair, sinse I find myself spending large amounts of currency for any given food or booze item, which doesn't then get recooped in my adventuring, so I'm always in fact opperating at a loss. If KoL had a donation system similar to Warriors 2, where donating to the game could give extra dayly adventures I'd probably have been much more inclined to persist with it. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye
The problem with discovering powerful items and such on your own is that there really aren't any in the plot itself, all the ones worth having are either obtained as items of the month, ultrarares, which aren't just a really rare item drop but have a lot of backing mechanics to ensure they won't flood the market, and ascention rewards for things like playing through hardcore mode. It's a really tough game, and honestly I'm not sure how to tell someone to get started as a newbie since I've never played through a run without Mr. Accessories or other stat boosting gear to help. I'm trying a hardcore run right now, and having a lot of trouble with it since I can't use said power items and have to rely on the equipment I pick up in game. Its more than a difficult game, especially given its limitations on adventures. Really I'm not sure what to tell you on the daily adventures thing, since the cap for built up adventures is 200, and the only way to go over that in any way is to eat food or drink booze, which gives you turns over that cap but said turns disappear at nightly rollover. Unlike warriors2, its not a game meant to allow you to play through at your leasure, its kind of a daily game you spend 5 minutes or so on, or let your turns build up and play for an hour when you feel like it. More of a casual game than a game to really get quests done or explore dungeons. -- From: "dark" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:38 AM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye When I played before, people were kind enough to lend me even some slightly good items and amounts of meet, - in fact I found KoL's player base on average to be a fairly nice bunch. Generally though, I'd much prefer advice over powerful items, sinse I do like the discovery of such things myself. The food and booze system for extra adventures has always struck me as mildly unfair, sinse I find myself spending large amounts of currency for any given food or booze item, which doesn't then get recooped in my adventuring, so I'm always in fact opperating at a loss. If KoL had a donation system similar to Warriors 2, where donating to the game could give extra dayly adventures I'd probably have been much more inclined to persist with it. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye
When I played before, people were kind enough to lend me even some slightly good items and amounts of meet, - in fact I found KoL's player base on average to be a fairly nice bunch. Generally though, I'd much prefer advice over powerful items, sinse I do like the discovery of such things myself. The food and booze system for extra adventures has always struck me as mildly unfair, sinse I find myself spending large amounts of currency for any given food or booze item, which doesn't then get recooped in my adventuring, so I'm always in fact opperating at a loss. If KoL had a donation system similar to Warriors 2, where donating to the game could give extra dayly adventures I'd probably have been much more inclined to persist with it. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Shadow Dragon" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye Kind of. There's some equipment that gives more adventures, though a lot of it is rather tough to get, the most powerful stuff being the time gear, which was made with a one-time item so by now is either exceptionally rare or impossible to find on the market. There's also the counterclockwise watch, which is an ultrarare. which basically means given the mechanics put into an ultrarare find they're all but literally impossible to farm, or so says the developers, and given how few of any given ultrarare there are I'm inclined to believe that. There's a couple of ascention rewards for pastamancers that give adventures, and an immitation nice watch that I can't remember how to get at the moment. The one that is easy to get is the dead guy's watch, which you get in the misspelled cemetery or cyrpt. Pretty much all food and booze in the kingdom gives more adventures, with the most powerful stuff involving a tiny plastic sword, which saddeningly is another one time item. That is one thing that irritates me about KoL is its frequent use of one-time items, namely items of the month, or even more rare, one-time event items like the time gear or crimbo gear. So yes, it is possible to get more adventures by donating in a sense, you can sell Mr. Accessories on the mall and buy some of these one-time items if you can find them, and eventually obtain others, but it'd probably cost more than most people are willing to donate, especially if they're having trouble getting into the game. My philosophy though is that if its in my power to obtain something for someone, I'll try to do it, since I figure that everyone else deserves powerful items just as much as I do. I mostly do this for clan mates, and only if they can't get it themselves, but I'm more than happy to help out with the obtaining of powerful gear and especially food and other things that give adventures to help people get along in this exceedingly difficult but amusing game. ------ From: "dark" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:01 AM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye Well I won't disagree with you on the quality of the humour, I certainly had a good few laughs while playing, --- everything from references like the moon key, the sun key and the Richard Starkey (lol!), And the wonders of the limeric dungeon. "One day when you meet with a giant, who stands so bold and defiant, though he roars puny fool, you take his ass to school, and leave him a good deal more pliant" Rofl! I may take you up on that offer shadowdragon if I find myself enclined to try KoL again. Out of interest, is there a way (perhaps by donating), to get more dayly adventures? LAck of adventures is always one thing that seemed to be a major pest in KoL for me. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye
Kind of. There's some equipment that gives more adventures, though a lot of it is rather tough to get, the most powerful stuff being the time gear, which was made with a one-time item so by now is either exceptionally rare or impossible to find on the market. There's also the counterclockwise watch, which is an ultrarare. which basically means given the mechanics put into an ultrarare find they're all but literally impossible to farm, or so says the developers, and given how few of any given ultrarare there are I'm inclined to believe that. There's a couple of ascention rewards for pastamancers that give adventures, and an immitation nice watch that I can't remember how to get at the moment. The one that is easy to get is the dead guy's watch, which you get in the misspelled cemetery or cyrpt. Pretty much all food and booze in the kingdom gives more adventures, with the most powerful stuff involving a tiny plastic sword, which saddeningly is another one time item. That is one thing that irritates me about KoL is its frequent use of one-time items, namely items of the month, or even more rare, one-time event items like the time gear or crimbo gear. So yes, it is possible to get more adventures by donating in a sense, you can sell Mr. Accessories on the mall and buy some of these one-time items if you can find them, and eventually obtain others, but it'd probably cost more than most people are willing to donate, especially if they're having trouble getting into the game. My philosophy though is that if its in my power to obtain something for someone, I'll try to do it, since I figure that everyone else deserves powerful items just as much as I do. I mostly do this for clan mates, and only if they can't get it themselves, but I'm more than happy to help out with the obtaining of powerful gear and especially food and other things that give adventures to help people get along in this exceedingly difficult but amusing game. -- From: "dark" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:01 AM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye Well I won't disagree with you on the quality of the humour, I certainly had a good few laughs while playing, --- everything from references like the moon key, the sun key and the Richard Starkey (lol!), And the wonders of the limeric dungeon. "One day when you meet with a giant, who stands so bold and defiant, though he roars puny fool, you take his ass to school, and leave him a good deal more pliant" Rofl! I may take you up on that offer shadowdragon if I find myself enclined to try KoL again. Out of interest, is there a way (perhaps by donating), to get more dayly adventures? LAck of adventures is always one thing that seemed to be a major pest in KoL for me. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye
Well I won't disagree with you on the quality of the humour, I certainly had a good few laughs while playing, --- everything from references like the moon key, the sun key and the Richard Starkey (lol!), And the wonders of the limeric dungeon. "One day when you meet with a giant, who stands so bold and defiant, though he roars puny fool, you take his ass to school, and leave him a good deal more pliant" Rofl! I may take you up on that offer shadowdragon if I find myself enclined to try KoL again. Out of interest, is there a way (perhaps by donating), to get more dayly adventures? LAck of adventures is always one thing that seemed to be a major pest in KoL for me. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye
I personally appreciate the they might be giants references. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shadow Dragon Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:54 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye Yeah, KoL isn't for everyone. A lot of the humor is based off of references, or just straight puns. And while the puns are generally sickeningly horrible, the references are usually good. The only thing that redeem's the puns in my opinion is that the developers do the puns in such a manner simply to make you go oh man, that was aweful. I do think it's a neat game though, its got a fully featured plot and quest line, 6 different classes, all of which are very unique, a refreshing change from most games where the only thing that differs between classes is name and maybe the ability to cast spells, good jokes here and there if you understand the references, I dunno. For those of you who have played and lost interest, provided you're reading this thread, I recommend giving the game another try. But try to see the overall picture, the underlying mechanics, the uniqueness of the classes, the way the world opens up as you do more, the fiendishly difficult puzzles, there's a lot about the game that's cool even if the humor just makes you wince once in a while. Would be more than happy to help anyone get started and on their feet, I'm talerous, leader of the Mr. Banana Heads clan, misspelled with 1 n cause I'm weird. Feel free to look me up, new or old. -- From: "Bryan Peterson" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:02 AM To: Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye > > I lost interest in KOL rather quickly though. A lot of the humor just > seemed extremely corny to me. > > It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Kingdom of Loathing was Re: Sryth question the eye
Yeah, KoL isn't for everyone. A lot of the humor is based off of references, or just straight puns. And while the puns are generally sickeningly horrible, the references are usually good. The only thing that redeem's the puns in my opinion is that the developers do the puns in such a manner simply to make you go oh man, that was aweful. I do think it's a neat game though, its got a fully featured plot and quest line, 6 different classes, all of which are very unique, a refreshing change from most games where the only thing that differs between classes is name and maybe the ability to cast spells, good jokes here and there if you understand the references, I dunno. For those of you who have played and lost interest, provided you're reading this thread, I recommend giving the game another try. But try to see the overall picture, the underlying mechanics, the uniqueness of the classes, the way the world opens up as you do more, the fiendishly difficult puzzles, there's a lot about the game that's cool even if the humor just makes you wince once in a while. Would be more than happy to help anyone get started and on their feet, I'm talerous, leader of the Mr. Banana Heads clan, misspelled with 1 n cause I'm weird. Feel free to look me up, new or old. -- From: "Bryan Peterson" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:02 AM To: Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye I lost interest in KOL rather quickly though. A lot of the humor just seemed extremely corny to me. It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
