Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices
Hi Jason, Yeah, all of the major consoles charge huge royalties in order to create games for their platforms. While the technology exists to make say XBox 360 games you still need to pay royalties and major licensing fees to do so. I once checked into making games for the PS 3, and even though the new Playstation core is Linux Sony has so heavily modified it that it doesn't use many of the open source technologies that I have come to know in developing software for my Linux desktop here at home. It requires a specific development kit and it costs thousands of bucks to get the rights to use their sdk. If that wasn't enough to mmmake it unlikely the fact is the games have to be reviewed and approved by Sony, Microsoft, etc brfore you can even sell it. Bottom line it is not for the small time developers. It is for major corperations with millions of bucks behind them. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yeah there would be no demand I have no plans to buy an xbox, I know my friend has one. You could just write something for xbox for yourself and not publish it though if all you want to say is you have done it. I am playing entombed now which is written in the xna framework so its possible to create a quite responsive and accessible program. At 08:56 p.m. 5/11/2008, you wrote: I've been considering writing something for x box just to say I've done it, but there'd be no demand. Plus. It's true there are fees involved. It's expensive, and not worth it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Allen Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 1:49 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices I'm writing a game using the XNA framework which allows it to run on both a PC and X BOX 360. Like Liam said, the problem isn't the technology, it's the demand. It's very possible for me to release the game on the X BOX, but it would likely be the only one of its kind. People are unlikely to buy an X BOX just for one game. Also, to get a commcerial game on the x box requires you to pay a licensing fee and royalty sharing with Microsoft. It's just not a viable business outlet unforutnately. Not unless you only did it only for altruistic purposes. Jason --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think the ps3 could handle it, and the xbox. If they can run a cut down version of their OS, anyway. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: tysdomain-com Visit for quality software and web design. skype: st8amnd2005 - Original Message - From: Chris Hallsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices Sounds good but would the hardware cope with it? I don't think so. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: chrishallsworth7266 klango: chrishallsworth - Original Message - From: Marvin Hunkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 3:01 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices Hi. was wondering, as i had sight when i was younger, and played the arcade style and the console based games, like Galaxian on the atari, mario brothers, 1942, asteroids on the seiger, nintendo , etc. so was wondering, would it be possible to have a external or internal text to speech screen reader on these consoles like the x box, play station 3, psp, nintendo wii, ds, etc. what do you think about this? cheers Marvin. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Like stated before. It's not an issue of handling it. Both consoles can handle most anything you throw at them. It's all about supply and demand. Noone wants text to speech, and since the major demographic are sighted people. Well there ya go. Find a way to convince the sighted population that text to speech is an asset, and maybe you'll see change. I have a feeling that this will happen around the time the cubs win the world series. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyler Littlefield Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 11:59 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices I think the ps3 could handle it, and the xbox. If they can run a cut down version of their OS, anyway. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: tysdomain-com Visit for quality software and web design. skype: st8amnd2005 - Original Message - From: Chris Hallsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices Sounds good but would the hardware cope with it? I don't think so. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: chrishallsworth7266 klango: chrishallsworth - Original Message - From: Marvin Hunkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 3:01 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices Hi. was wondering, as i had sight when i was younger, and played the arcade style and the console based games, like Galaxian on the atari, mario brothers, 1942, asteroids on the seiger, nintendo , etc. so was wondering, would it be possible to have a external or internal text to speech screen reader on these consoles like the x box, play station 3, psp, nintendo wii, ds, etc. what do you think about this? cheers Marvin. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'm writing a game using the XNA framework which allows it to run on both a PC and X BOX 360. Like Liam said, the problem isn't the technology, it's the demand. It's very possible for me to release the game on the X BOX, but it would likely be the only one of its kind. People are unlikely to buy an X BOX just for one game. Also, to get a commcerial game on the x box requires you to pay a licensing fee and royalty sharing with Microsoft. It's just not a viable business outlet unforutnately. Not unless you only did it only for altruistic purposes. Jason --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I've been considering writing something for x box just to say I've done it, but there'd be no demand. Plus. It's true there are fees involved. It's expensive, and not worth it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Allen Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 1:49 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices I'm writing a game using the XNA framework which allows it to run on both a PC and X BOX 360. Like Liam said, the problem isn't the technology, it's the demand. It's very possible for me to release the game on the X BOX, but it would likely be the only one of its kind. People are unlikely to buy an X BOX just for one game. Also, to get a commcerial game on the x box requires you to pay a licensing fee and royalty sharing with Microsoft. It's just not a viable business outlet unforutnately. Not unless you only did it only for altruistic purposes. Jason --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I hear tell someone had xp going on the ps3. I wouldn't hold my breath, but hey, maybe jaws would be able to go on there- but again, wouldn't hold my breath. It would only work when you were using windows xp and you wouldn't be using that for games. contact details: email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: Liam Erven [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices Hi Marvin. I'm not familiar with how the x box's OS is set up, but I think that would be possible. However, I wouldn't hold your breath. The market of gamers who are blind who own consoles is too small for any company to even consider it. It's sad, but true. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 10:02 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices Hi. was wondering, as i had sight when i was younger, and played the arcade style and the console based games, like Galaxian on the atari, mario brothers, 1942, asteroids on the seiger, nintendo , etc. so was wondering, would it be possible to have a external or internal text to speech screen reader on these consoles like the x box, play station 3, psp, nintendo wii, ds, etc. what do you think about this? cheers Marvin. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1762 - Release Date: 11/2/2008 9:51 AM --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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No offense, but running xp on a ps3 is pointless. It's not gonna play any games. It's just gonna run windows and look useless. It was like people running linux on the old X Box. It looked cool, but was totally pointless. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of constantine (on laptop) Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 8:33 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices I hear tell someone had xp going on the ps3. I wouldn't hold my breath, but hey, maybe jaws would be able to go on there- but again, wouldn't hold my breath. It would only work when you were using windows xp and you wouldn't be using that for games. contact details: email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: Liam Erven [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices Hi Marvin. I'm not familiar with how the x box's OS is set up, but I think that would be possible. However, I wouldn't hold your breath. The market of gamers who are blind who own consoles is too small for any company to even consider it. It's sad, but true. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 10:02 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices Hi. was wondering, as i had sight when i was younger, and played the arcade style and the console based games, like Galaxian on the atari, mario brothers, 1942, asteroids on the seiger, nintendo , etc. so was wondering, would it be possible to have a external or internal text to speech screen reader on these consoles like the x box, play station 3, psp, nintendo wii, ds, etc. what do you think about this? cheers Marvin. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1762 - Release Date: 11/2/2008 9:51 AM --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sounds good but would the hardware cope with it? I don't think so. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: chrishallsworth7266 klango: chrishallsworth - Original Message - From: Marvin Hunkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 3:01 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices Hi. was wondering, as i had sight when i was younger, and played the arcade style and the console based games, like Galaxian on the atari, mario brothers, 1942, asteroids on the seiger, nintendo , etc. so was wondering, would it be possible to have a external or internal text to speech screen reader on these consoles like the x box, play station 3, psp, nintendo wii, ds, etc. what do you think about this? cheers Marvin. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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good idea but then how would you play the games? the menus of the console would read yes but not the menus of the game On 2 Nov 2008, at 17:54, Chris Hallsworth wrote: Sounds good but would the hardware cope with it? I don't think so. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: chrishallsworth7266 klango: chrishallsworth - Original Message - From: Marvin Hunkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 3:01 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices Hi. was wondering, as i had sight when i was younger, and played the arcade style and the console based games, like Galaxian on the atari, mario brothers, 1942, asteroids on the seiger, nintendo , etc. so was wondering, would it be possible to have a external or internal text to speech screen reader on these consoles like the x box, play station 3, psp, nintendo wii, ds, etc. what do you think about this? cheers Marvin. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Marvin, That is a good question. Technically the operating systems that are used in those game consoles are fundamentally able to run a screen reading device. However, since the version of Linux used in the PS3 and the version of Windows that powers the XBox are extremely stripped down and are so customized to the point no existing screen reader for Linux or Windows will currently run on those proprietary versions of the consoles operating systems. While I think it is technically possible for Microsoft and Sony to add screen readers to the consoles they produce they never will. First, there is not enough demand for it. A few hundred or thousand blind customers doesn't mean much when they sell to millions of sighted people each year. Second, a screen reader wouldn't work anyway. This is going to get a bit technical, but there is a total difference in the way a standard Windows application like notepad, Internet Explorer, Word, whatever displays text and the way a vidio game displays text. In vidio games often times the text is graphically drawn to the screen and is an image of text and not text like in applications. That is why if you go out and buy a PC game like Tomb Raider Anniversary Jaws, Window Eyes, and NVDA just say blank, blank, blank, or graphic, graphic, graphic even though you are in a game launcher dialog. That is because what is displayed isn't text but graphics saying launch game, load game, exit game, configure settings, etc. The only way to solve that issue is to rout the text directly through to the screen reader through its API such as the Jaws and Window Eyes API, or to inbed something like Sapi into the game which will announce what graphical text has focus. So bottom line what we need is not a screen reader per say, but a TTS engine that all games for those consoles would include into their games. I know of some engines like Cepstral that could be ported easily to those consoles, but lack of demand and licensing costs makes it pretty much unlikely. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Liam, Truer words have never been spoken. I have heard a lot about the Linux Geeks that were putting Linux on there game consoles like the XBox, but it ended up just being totally pointless in the end. After they did that the only games there could run were the games made specially for Linux such as the open source version of Quake, Pengwuine Command, Ice Breaker, Asteroids, KDE Packman, whatever. It was really a useless piece of hardware after that. Putting XP on your PS3 really amounts to the same thing. Big whoop. You got XP on a Play Station. Now, go play your PC games on a console instead of on a PC. Liam Erven wrote: No offense, but running xp on a ps3 is pointless. It's not gonna play any games. It's just gonna run windows and look useless. It was like people running linux on the old X Box. It looked cool, but was totally pointless. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If I remember correctly you could install linux on a Xbox and still switch to playing xbox games. I think you had a boot screen at the start up. Problem was, you had to get a mod chip and then find the flash for the chip and software to make it all work. At the time the Xbox came out I was already out of the Video Game biz. I used to Mod PS1's and other systems for people. To be able to play out of state games and other things. I have every system that was made since Atari up to the 360, only system I don't have, and will not buy is the PS3. I love playing my Neo Geo. Street Fighter rocks. Matt. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 12:53 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices Hi Liam, Truer words have never been spoken. I have heard a lot about the Linux Geeks that were putting Linux on there game consoles like the XBox, but it ended up just being totally pointless in the end. After they did that the only games there could run were the games made specially for Linux such as the open source version of Quake, Pengwuine Command, Ice Breaker, Asteroids, KDE Packman, whatever. It was really a useless piece of hardware after that. Putting XP on your PS3 really amounts to the same thing. Big whoop. You got XP on a Play Station. Now, go play your PC games on a console instead of on a PC. Liam Erven wrote: No offense, but running xp on a ps3 is pointless. It's not gonna play any games. It's just gonna run windows and look useless. It was like people running linux on the old X Box. It looked cool, but was totally pointless. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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hmmm if the usb ports could hold keyboards and if the ps3 is just a hard drive then it is possible. however not sure how you would use both. At 03:32 a.m. 3/11/2008, you wrote: I hear tell someone had xp going on the ps3. I wouldn't hold my breath, but hey, maybe jaws would be able to go on there- but again, wouldn't hold my breath. It would only work when you were using windows xp and you wouldn't be using that for games. contact details: email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: Liam Erven [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices Hi Marvin. I'm not familiar with how the x box's OS is set up, but I think that would be possible. However, I wouldn't hold your breath. The market of gamers who are blind who own consoles is too small for any company to even consider it. It's sad, but true. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 10:02 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices Hi. was wondering, as i had sight when i was younger, and played the arcade style and the console based games, like Galaxian on the atari, mario brothers, 1942, asteroids on the seiger, nintendo , etc. so was wondering, would it be possible to have a external or internal text to speech screen reader on these consoles like the x box, play station 3, psp, nintendo wii, ds, etc. what do you think about this? cheers Marvin. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1762 - Release Date: 11/2/2008 9:51 AM --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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well you could play games but you couldn't play the ps3 games at all well I'd think you couldn't. At 03:39 a.m. 3/11/2008, you wrote: No offense, but running xp on a ps3 is pointless. It's not gonna play any games. It's just gonna run windows and look useless. It was like people running linux on the old X Box. It looked cool, but was totally pointless. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of constantine (on laptop) Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 8:33 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices I hear tell someone had xp going on the ps3. I wouldn't hold my breath, but hey, maybe jaws would be able to go on there- but again, wouldn't hold my breath. It would only work when you were using windows xp and you wouldn't be using that for games. contact details: email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: Liam Erven [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices Hi Marvin. I'm not familiar with how the x box's OS is set up, but I think that would be possible. However, I wouldn't hold your breath. The market of gamers who are blind who own consoles is too small for any company to even consider it. It's sad, but true. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 10:02 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices Hi. was wondering, as i had sight when i was younger, and played the arcade style and the console based games, like Galaxian on the atari, mario brothers, 1942, asteroids on the seiger, nintendo , etc. so was wondering, would it be possible to have a external or internal text to speech screen reader on these consoles like the x box, play station 3, psp, nintendo wii, ds, etc. what do you think about this? cheers Marvin. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1762 - Release Date: 11/2/2008 9:51 AM --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices
Heck. If only the menus of the console would read. That would be good enough for me. I'll take talking menus anyday. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Will Lomas Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 12:00 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices good idea but then how would you play the games? the menus of the console would read yes but not the menus of the game On 2 Nov 2008, at 17:54, Chris Hallsworth wrote: Sounds good but would the hardware cope with it? I don't think so. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: chrishallsworth7266 klango: chrishallsworth - Original Message - From: Marvin Hunkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 3:01 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices Hi. was wondering, as i had sight when i was younger, and played the arcade style and the console based games, like Galaxian on the atari, mario brothers, 1942, asteroids on the seiger, nintendo , etc. so was wondering, would it be possible to have a external or internal text to speech screen reader on these consoles like the x box, play station 3, psp, nintendo wii, ds, etc. what do you think about this? cheers Marvin. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thus why I'm pushign for small changes. Like. For isntance. In the current version of x box live there are various sounds for various events. Also. The menus wrap, but if you hold down the left or right trigger button you can jump to the top or the bottom of a menu. Now with the new experience coming out on the 19th, I'm not sure how this will effect it. But.. Hopefully the menu system will be even easier to use. Here's hoping -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 12:53 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices Hi Liam, Truer words have never been spoken. I have heard a lot about the Linux Geeks that were putting Linux on there game consoles like the XBox, but it ended up just being totally pointless in the end. After they did that the only games there could run were the games made specially for Linux such as the open source version of Quake, Pengwuine Command, Ice Breaker, Asteroids, KDE Packman, whatever. It was really a useless piece of hardware after that. Putting XP on your PS3 really amounts to the same thing. Big whoop. You got XP on a Play Station. Now, go play your PC games on a console instead of on a PC. Liam Erven wrote: No offense, but running xp on a ps3 is pointless. It's not gonna play any games. It's just gonna run windows and look useless. It was like people running linux on the old X Box. It looked cool, but was totally pointless. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices
Thing now is. I think if you mod a 360, the console wil detect it and not let you on live. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K. Matthew Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 1:22 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices If I remember correctly you could install linux on a Xbox and still switch to playing xbox games. I think you had a boot screen at the start up. Problem was, you had to get a mod chip and then find the flash for the chip and software to make it all work. At the time the Xbox came out I was already out of the Video Game biz. I used to Mod PS1's and other systems for people. To be able to play out of state games and other things. I have every system that was made since Atari up to the 360, only system I don't have, and will not buy is the PS3. I love playing my Neo Geo. Street Fighter rocks. Matt. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 12:53 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Game Devices Hi Liam, Truer words have never been spoken. I have heard a lot about the Linux Geeks that were putting Linux on there game consoles like the XBox, but it ended up just being totally pointless in the end. After they did that the only games there could run were the games made specially for Linux such as the open source version of Quake, Pengwuine Command, Ice Breaker, Asteroids, KDE Packman, whatever. It was really a useless piece of hardware after that. Putting XP on your PS3 really amounts to the same thing. Big whoop. You got XP on a Play Station. Now, go play your PC games on a console instead of on a PC. Liam Erven wrote: No offense, but running xp on a ps3 is pointless. It's not gonna play any games. It's just gonna run windows and look useless. It was like people running linux on the old X Box. It looked cool, but was totally pointless. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
