Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
Hi, Ah...I was thinking about the similarities, but I wans't sure that was known as a "Preprocessor". Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:52 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry Hi Hayden, There is in fact a preprocessor in AngelScript, the scripting engine that BGT uses. #include is a great example of this. There is also a type of pointer called object handle, but it is a sort of safe pointer that can never point to invalid memory etc. It also has built in garbage collection, something that C++ lacks. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 5:07 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry Hi, I might also add that if you want to look into a general Purpose Programming Language, that BGT iswritten based off of C++, and while you definitely need to start with something simpler than said language (or at least that's what I'd recommend) learning BGT will give you a foundation as to C++-type syntax and coding conventions. Of course a lot of stuff was left out, such as namespaces, the preprocessor, pointers etc, but either way... Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Tiffany Kim Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:04 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry Hi Dark, Thanks for the suggestion! I got scared off from programming (or rather, learning) when the tutorial for Python I was using just seemed daunting! I'm hoping I'll have more luck with BGT, and I think it's a good place to start since it was designed with audio games in mind, not to mention that it was recommended several times. I do have a bit more time now (though I don't anticipate really making much headway until summertime) when my master's will be complete! I'll let you guys know what progress I make, hopefully sooner rather than later. On 12/16/10, dark wrote: > Hi tiffany, > > As far as bavisoft go I really can't blame you, and in fact sad to say I > think your making the right decision, though hopefully at least bavisoft > will come to the table and help sort this situation out, so your enquirary > might have done some good afterall. > > for game creation, might i suggest you employ a slightly different approach. > > Rather than starting with the "i'm going to make game X" idea, start by > looking into learning the programming language you wish to use, perhaps > writing some short example games to teach you basic techniques and help your > practice, then, start on design. > > There is a fantastic tutorial on the page for bgt which goes into many basic > principle of programming with bgt itself, which is expressly designed for > creating audio games and cuts out many of the less game related details > which it is usually necessary to lay as foundations before creating > something. > > This is just my suggestion based on what I know of programming. > > I heard the tutorial, and attempted a short amount of scripting, but decided > that trying to write a phd thesis and learn programming at the same time was > not a good idea at all, - even aside from practicing my singing, being > in stage performances, working for audiogames.net, doing tabletop rp and all > the other stuff I have going on. > > I do intend to come back to game programming later though when perhaps I > don't have as many commitments, - ie, when my phd is finished. > > Beware the grue! > > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
Hi Hayden, There is in fact a preprocessor in AngelScript, the scripting engine that BGT uses. #include is a great example of this. There is also a type of pointer called object handle, but it is a sort of safe pointer that can never point to invalid memory etc. It also has built in garbage collection, something that C++ lacks. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 5:07 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry Hi, I might also add that if you want to look into a general Purpose Programming Language, that BGT iswritten based off of C++, and while you definitely need to start with something simpler than said language (or at least that's what I'd recommend) learning BGT will give you a foundation as to C++-type syntax and coding conventions. Of course a lot of stuff was left out, such as namespaces, the preprocessor, pointers etc, but either way... Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Tiffany Kim Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:04 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry Hi Dark, Thanks for the suggestion! I got scared off from programming (or rather, learning) when the tutorial for Python I was using just seemed daunting! I'm hoping I'll have more luck with BGT, and I think it's a good place to start since it was designed with audio games in mind, not to mention that it was recommended several times. I do have a bit more time now (though I don't anticipate really making much headway until summertime) when my master's will be complete! I'll let you guys know what progress I make, hopefully sooner rather than later. On 12/16/10, dark wrote: Hi tiffany, As far as bavisoft go I really can't blame you, and in fact sad to say I think your making the right decision, though hopefully at least bavisoft will come to the table and help sort this situation out, so your enquirary might have done some good afterall. for game creation, might i suggest you employ a slightly different approach. Rather than starting with the "i'm going to make game X" idea, start by looking into learning the programming language you wish to use, perhaps writing some short example games to teach you basic techniques and help your practice, then, start on design. There is a fantastic tutorial on the page for bgt which goes into many basic principle of programming with bgt itself, which is expressly designed for creating audio games and cuts out many of the less game related details which it is usually necessary to lay as foundations before creating something. This is just my suggestion based on what I know of programming. I heard the tutorial, and attempted a short amount of scripting, but decided that trying to write a phd thesis and learn programming at the same time was not a good idea at all, - even aside from practicing my singing, being in stage performances, working for audiogames.net, doing tabletop rp and all the other stuff I have going on. I do intend to come back to game programming later though when perhaps I don't have as many commitments, - ie, when my phd is finished. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
Hi, I might also add that if you want to look into a general Purpose Programming Language, that BGT iswritten based off of C++, and while you definitely need to start with something simpler than said language (or at least that's what I'd recommend) learning BGT will give you a foundation as to C++-type syntax and coding conventions. Of course a lot of stuff was left out, such as namespaces, the preprocessor, pointers etc, but either way... Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Tiffany Kim Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:04 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry Hi Dark, Thanks for the suggestion! I got scared off from programming (or rather, learning) when the tutorial for Python I was using just seemed daunting! I'm hoping I'll have more luck with BGT, and I think it's a good place to start since it was designed with audio games in mind, not to mention that it was recommended several times. I do have a bit more time now (though I don't anticipate really making much headway until summertime) when my master's will be complete! I'll let you guys know what progress I make, hopefully sooner rather than later. On 12/16/10, dark wrote: > Hi tiffany, > > As far as bavisoft go I really can't blame you, and in fact sad to say I > think your making the right decision, though hopefully at least bavisoft > will come to the table and help sort this situation out, so your enquirary > might have done some good afterall. > > for game creation, might i suggest you employ a slightly different approach. > > Rather than starting with the "i'm going to make game X" idea, start by > looking into learning the programming language you wish to use, perhaps > writing some short example games to teach you basic techniques and help your > practice, then, start on design. > > There is a fantastic tutorial on the page for bgt which goes into many basic > principle of programming with bgt itself, which is expressly designed for > creating audio games and cuts out many of the less game related details > which it is usually necessary to lay as foundations before creating > something. > > This is just my suggestion based on what I know of programming. > > I heard the tutorial, and attempted a short amount of scripting, but decided > that trying to write a phd thesis and learn programming at the same time was > not a good idea at all, - even aside from practicing my singing, being > in stage performances, working for audiogames.net, doing tabletop rp and all > the other stuff I have going on. > > I do intend to come back to game programming later though when perhaps I > don't have as many commitments, - ie, when my phd is finished. > > Beware the grue! > > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
Hi Tiffany, I'm Philip Bennefall, the lead developer of BGT. I just wanted to say that if you need any help while learning the language, feel free to contact either myself or to ask questions on the Blastbay forum. We have a fairly active community of people who are happy to answer questions, share coding tips etc. Good luck! Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: "Tiffany Kim" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 2:03 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry Hi Dark, Thanks for the suggestion! I got scared off from programming (or rather, learning) when the tutorial for Python I was using just seemed daunting! I'm hoping I'll have more luck with BGT, and I think it's a good place to start since it was designed with audio games in mind, not to mention that it was recommended several times. I do have a bit more time now (though I don't anticipate really making much headway until summertime) when my master's will be complete! I'll let you guys know what progress I make, hopefully sooner rather than later. On 12/16/10, dark wrote: Hi tiffany, As far as bavisoft go I really can't blame you, and in fact sad to say I think your making the right decision, though hopefully at least bavisoft will come to the table and help sort this situation out, so your enquirary might have done some good afterall. for game creation, might i suggest you employ a slightly different approach. Rather than starting with the "i'm going to make game X" idea, start by looking into learning the programming language you wish to use, perhaps writing some short example games to teach you basic techniques and help your practice, then, start on design. There is a fantastic tutorial on the page for bgt which goes into many basic principle of programming with bgt itself, which is expressly designed for creating audio games and cuts out many of the less game related details which it is usually necessary to lay as foundations before creating something. This is just my suggestion based on what I know of programming. I heard the tutorial, and attempted a short amount of scripting, but decided that trying to write a phd thesis and learn programming at the same time was not a good idea at all, - even aside from practicing my singing, being in stage performances, working for audiogames.net, doing tabletop rp and all the other stuff I have going on. I do intend to come back to game programming later though when perhaps I don't have as many commitments, - ie, when my phd is finished. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
Hi Dark, Thanks for the suggestion! I got scared off from programming (or rather, learning) when the tutorial for Python I was using just seemed daunting! I'm hoping I'll have more luck with BGT, and I think it's a good place to start since it was designed with audio games in mind, not to mention that it was recommended several times. I do have a bit more time now (though I don't anticipate really making much headway until summertime) when my master's will be complete! I'll let you guys know what progress I make, hopefully sooner rather than later. On 12/16/10, dark wrote: > Hi tiffany, > > As far as bavisoft go I really can't blame you, and in fact sad to say I > think your making the right decision, though hopefully at least bavisoft > will come to the table and help sort this situation out, so your enquirary > might have done some good afterall. > > for game creation, might i suggest you employ a slightly different approach. > > Rather than starting with the "i'm going to make game X" idea, start by > looking into learning the programming language you wish to use, perhaps > writing some short example games to teach you basic techniques and help your > practice, then, start on design. > > There is a fantastic tutorial on the page for bgt which goes into many basic > principle of programming with bgt itself, which is expressly designed for > creating audio games and cuts out many of the less game related details > which it is usually necessary to lay as foundations before creating > something. > > This is just my suggestion based on what I know of programming. > > I heard the tutorial, and attempted a short amount of scripting, but decided > that trying to write a phd thesis and learn programming at the same time was > not a good idea at all, - even aside from practicing my singing, being > in stage performances, working for audiogames.net, doing tabletop rp and all > the other stuff I have going on. > > I do intend to come back to game programming later though when perhaps I > don't have as many commitments, - ie, when my phd is finished. > > Beware the grue! > > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
Hi tiffany, As far as bavisoft go I really can't blame you, and in fact sad to say I think your making the right decision, though hopefully at least bavisoft will come to the table and help sort this situation out, so your enquirary might have done some good afterall. for game creation, might i suggest you employ a slightly different approach. Rather than starting with the "i'm going to make game X" idea, start by looking into learning the programming language you wish to use, perhaps writing some short example games to teach you basic techniques and help your practice, then, start on design. There is a fantastic tutorial on the page for bgt which goes into many basic principle of programming with bgt itself, which is expressly designed for creating audio games and cuts out many of the less game related details which it is usually necessary to lay as foundations before creating something. This is just my suggestion based on what I know of programming. I heard the tutorial, and attempted a short amount of scripting, but decided that trying to write a phd thesis and learn programming at the same time was not a good idea at all, - even aside from practicing my singing, being in stage performances, working for audiogames.net, doing tabletop rp and all the other stuff I have going on. I do intend to come back to game programming later though when perhaps I don't have as many commitments, - ie, when my phd is finished. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
Hi Dark, It would have been helpful to get something more substantive, I admit. Since I didn't get anything like "feel free to place an order", it makes me wary, and thus, I have decided to move on to other prospecs, if not tackling the daunting task of learning to create some games of my own, lol. Does anyone know of a thread where suggestions for the kinds of games people actually would like to see are compiled? I have ideas for making some that I played as a kid accessible, but I'm a bit of a bookish type, so I'd end up making educational stuff and that, frankly, would probably be research-intensive and not something that I should tackle from the get-go. I saw the thread someone made about a circus game, though I don't know the complexities of such an undertaking, but if all else fails, I guess I can use that idea as a learning exercise. On 12/16/10, shaun everiss wrote: > WOULD IT? > tRUE i WOULD BE ANNOYED, BUT i THINK IT WOULD BE MORE DAMAGING IF > THIS ISSUE BECAME COMAN KNOWLEDGE AND EVERY PERSON TOLD ANOTHER 50. > At 04:48 a.m. 17/12/2010, you wrote: >>Well now, wouldn't it be disconcerting for 50 or so people to write >>them asking the same questions... that'd certainly make me uncomfortable. >> lol. >> >>At 07:42 AM 16/12/2010, you wrote: >>>How about we all use the addressed she used? that one seems to be working. >>> >>> >>>- Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" >>> >>>To: "Gamers Discussion list" >>>Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:40 AM >>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry >>> >>> >>>>Hi Tiffany, >>>> >>>>Well, myricles never sease. I'm glad you actually succeeded to contact >>>>someone at Bavisoft. Most of us can't get anyone to respond and feel >>>>shut out. >>>> >>>>Smile. >>>> >>>>--- >>>>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>>>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>>>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>>>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>>> list, >>>>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>> >>> >>>--- >>>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
WOULD IT? tRUE i WOULD BE ANNOYED, BUT i THINK IT WOULD BE MORE DAMAGING IF THIS ISSUE BECAME COMAN KNOWLEDGE AND EVERY PERSON TOLD ANOTHER 50. At 04:48 a.m. 17/12/2010, you wrote: Well now, wouldn't it be disconcerting for 50 or so people to write them asking the same questions... that'd certainly make me uncomfortable. lol. At 07:42 AM 16/12/2010, you wrote: How about we all use the addressed she used? that one seems to be working. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry Hi Tiffany, Well, myricles never sease. I'm glad you actually succeeded to contact someone at Bavisoft. Most of us can't get anyone to respond and feel shut out. Smile. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
Hi Tiffany. nice to get a response, though i would've liked something more informative. Btw, I could've told you they run on xp, it's vista and 7 which have the trouble. it'll be interesting to see if my topic does any good. Beware the Grtue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Tiffany Kim" To: Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 1:27 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry Hello Everyone, Well, as promised, I did write to the address that was given when I clicked on Bavisoft's Paypal link. From the response, it sounds as though someone is at the other end, but I was unsure about whether I should go ahead and plunk down my money (all I found out was these games will still work on my machine), not whether the company was still able to process orders. See below. Tiffany Kim Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:41 PM To: j...@bavisoft.com To Whom This May Concern, I recently listened to Kelly John Sapergia's reviews of Grizzly Gulch and Chillingham, and was interested in ordering both of these games. I tried writing to your sales address, but the E-mail bounced twice. I found this address when I clicked on the Paypal button. I know the games were developed back in 2004, so before I order, I would like to know if they will run on a machine running Windows XP with service pack III installed. Please let me know if this is possible. Thank you. Sincerely, Tiffany Kim Jeff Gibbons Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:13 AM To: Tiffany Kim Tiffany, Thanks for writing! Both games will definitely run on XP with service pack 3. Please let me know if there are any other questions I can answer. Thanks, Jeff Gibbons President, Bavisoft --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
Yeah but do you think people that never receive their orders enjoy that? They'll have no choice but to respond to someone eventually. perhaps if they kept us up to date there'd be no need for anyone to write to them. - Original Message - From: "Clement Chou" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry Well now, wouldn't it be disconcerting for 50 or so people to write them asking the same questions... that'd certainly make me uncomfortable. lol. At 07:42 AM 16/12/2010, you wrote: How about we all use the addressed she used? that one seems to be working. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry Hi Tiffany, Well, myricles never sease. I'm glad you actually succeeded to contact someone at Bavisoft. Most of us can't get anyone to respond and feel shut out. Smile. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
Well now, wouldn't it be disconcerting for 50 or so people to write them asking the same questions... that'd certainly make me uncomfortable. lol. At 07:42 AM 16/12/2010, you wrote: How about we all use the addressed she used? that one seems to be working. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry Hi Tiffany, Well, myricles never sease. I'm glad you actually succeeded to contact someone at Bavisoft. Most of us can't get anyone to respond and feel shut out. Smile. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
How about we all use the addressed she used? that one seems to be working. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry Hi Tiffany, Well, myricles never sease. I'm glad you actually succeeded to contact someone at Bavisoft. Most of us can't get anyone to respond and feel shut out. Smile. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
Hi Tiffany, Well, myricles never sease. I'm glad you actually succeeded to contact someone at Bavisoft. Most of us can't get anyone to respond and feel shut out. Smile. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
I've heard they will but sketchily at best. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Brandon Misch" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry i knew they would work on xp but the real question is will they work on vista or 7. On Dec 16, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Tiffany Kim wrote: Hello Everyone, Well, as promised, I did write to the address that was given when I clicked on Bavisoft's Paypal link. From the response, it sounds as though someone is at the other end, but I was unsure about whether I should go ahead and plunk down my money (all I found out was these games will still work on my machine), not whether the company was still able to process orders. See below. Tiffany Kim Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:41 PM To: j...@bavisoft.com To Whom This May Concern, I recently listened to Kelly John Sapergia's reviews of Grizzly Gulch and Chillingham, and was interested in ordering both of these games. I tried writing to your sales address, but the E-mail bounced twice. I found this address when I clicked on the Paypal button. I know the games were developed back in 2004, so before I order, I would like to know if they will run on a machine running Windows XP with service pack III installed. Please let me know if this is possible. Thank you. Sincerely, Tiffany Kim Jeff Gibbons Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:13 AM To: Tiffany Kim Tiffany, Thanks for writing! Both games will definitely run on XP with service pack 3. Please let me know if there are any other questions I can answer. Thanks, Jeff Gibbons President, Bavisoft --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
i guess the only reason why he responded is because she emailed his address directly. On Dec 16, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Bryan Peterson wrote: > Wow. I'm a little surprised considering their usual lack of response to > people. I was fairly certain that Jeff had fallen off the face of the planet > or something or maybe wound up in the Springfield Mystery Spot, for any > Simpsons watchers on list. > We are the Knights who say...Ni! > - Original Message - From: "Tiffany Kim" > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:27 AM > Subject: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry > > >> Hello Everyone, >> Well, as promised, I did write to the address that was given when I >> clicked on Bavisoft's Paypal link. From the response, it sounds as >> though someone is at the other end, but I was unsure about whether I >> should go ahead and plunk down my money (all I found out was these >> games will still work on my machine), not whether the company was >> still able to process orders. See below. >> >> >> Tiffany Kim Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:41 PM >> To: j...@bavisoft.com >> >> To Whom This May Concern, >> I recently listened to Kelly John Sapergia's reviews of Grizzly Gulch >> and Chillingham, and was interested in ordering both of these games. >> I tried writing to your sales address, but the E-mail bounced twice. >> I found this address when I clicked on the Paypal button. I know the >> games were developed back in 2004, so before I order, I would like to >> know if they will run on a machine running Windows XP with service >> pack III installed. Please let me know if this is possible. Thank >> you. >> Sincerely, >> Tiffany Kim >> >> >> Jeff Gibbons Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:13 AM >> To: Tiffany Kim >> >> Tiffany, >> >> Thanks for writing! Both games will definitely run on XP with service >> pack 3. Please let me know if there are any other questions I can >> answer. >> >> Thanks, >> Jeff Gibbons >> President, Bavisoft >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
i knew they would work on xp but the real question is will they work on vista or 7. On Dec 16, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Tiffany Kim wrote: > Hello Everyone, > Well, as promised, I did write to the address that was given when I > clicked on Bavisoft's Paypal link. From the response, it sounds as > though someone is at the other end, but I was unsure about whether I > should go ahead and plunk down my money (all I found out was these > games will still work on my machine), not whether the company was > still able to process orders. See below. > > > Tiffany Kim Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:41 PM > To: j...@bavisoft.com > > To Whom This May Concern, > I recently listened to Kelly John Sapergia's reviews of Grizzly Gulch > and Chillingham, and was interested in ordering both of these games. > I tried writing to your sales address, but the E-mail bounced twice. > I found this address when I clicked on the Paypal button. I know the > games were developed back in 2004, so before I order, I would like to > know if they will run on a machine running Windows XP with service > pack III installed. Please let me know if this is possible. Thank > you. > Sincerely, > Tiffany Kim > > > Jeff Gibbons Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:13 AM > To: Tiffany Kim > > Tiffany, > > Thanks for writing! Both games will definitely run on XP with service > pack 3. Please let me know if there are any other questions I can > answer. > > Thanks, > Jeff Gibbons > President, Bavisoft > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
Hi Tiffany you might try emailing him and asking where the heck they think they've been for the last 6 years! - Original Message - From: "Tiffany Kim" To: Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 1:27 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry Hello Everyone, Well, as promised, I did write to the address that was given when I clicked on Bavisoft's Paypal link. From the response, it sounds as though someone is at the other end, but I was unsure about whether I should go ahead and plunk down my money (all I found out was these games will still work on my machine), not whether the company was still able to process orders. See below. Tiffany Kim Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:41 PM To: j...@bavisoft.com To Whom This May Concern, I recently listened to Kelly John Sapergia's reviews of Grizzly Gulch and Chillingham, and was interested in ordering both of these games. I tried writing to your sales address, but the E-mail bounced twice. I found this address when I clicked on the Paypal button. I know the games were developed back in 2004, so before I order, I would like to know if they will run on a machine running Windows XP with service pack III installed. Please let me know if this is possible. Thank you. Sincerely, Tiffany Kim Jeff Gibbons Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:13 AM To: Tiffany Kim Tiffany, Thanks for writing! Both games will definitely run on XP with service pack 3. Please let me know if there are any other questions I can answer. Thanks, Jeff Gibbons President, Bavisoft --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry
Wow. I'm a little surprised considering their usual lack of response to people. I was fairly certain that Jeff had fallen off the face of the planet or something or maybe wound up in the Springfield Mystery Spot, for any Simpsons watchers on list. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Tiffany Kim" To: Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:27 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Response From Bavisoft To My Inquiry Hello Everyone, Well, as promised, I did write to the address that was given when I clicked on Bavisoft's Paypal link. From the response, it sounds as though someone is at the other end, but I was unsure about whether I should go ahead and plunk down my money (all I found out was these games will still work on my machine), not whether the company was still able to process orders. See below. Tiffany Kim Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:41 PM To: j...@bavisoft.com To Whom This May Concern, I recently listened to Kelly John Sapergia's reviews of Grizzly Gulch and Chillingham, and was interested in ordering both of these games. I tried writing to your sales address, but the E-mail bounced twice. I found this address when I clicked on the Paypal button. I know the games were developed back in 2004, so before I order, I would like to know if they will run on a machine running Windows XP with service pack III installed. Please let me know if this is possible. Thank you. Sincerely, Tiffany Kim Jeff Gibbons Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:13 AM To: Tiffany Kim Tiffany, Thanks for writing! Both games will definitely run on XP with service pack 3. Please let me know if there are any other questions I can answer. Thanks, Jeff Gibbons President, Bavisoft --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
