Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 2 is brokened :(

2008-10-10 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 00:55 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 16:38:56 -0700 Brian Harring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of that 308, number of ebuilds that either inherit java-utils (which adds src_prepare), define their own src_prepare, or even *match* default via grepping in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for October

2008-10-10 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 09:25:55 -0500 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 05:30 Wed 01 Oct , Mike Frysinger wrote: If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know !

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 2 is brokened :(

2008-10-10 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 15:22:19 -0700 Brian Harring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So where exactly is this sky is falling issue you're worried about? Bugs happen. It means anyone using EAPI 2 now is going to encounter severe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-10 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 10-10-2008 04:21:23 +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: amd64-linux x64-openbsd x64-solaris Is there a special reason why you're using x64 instead of amd64 in those cases? (IMO x64 is the most stupid name for the x86_64 architecture) AFAIK, that's not amd64/x86_64, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI-2 and src_configure in eclasses

2008-10-10 Thread Alec Warner
I don't want to be the guy that kicks people off lists; but I will do it; so keep the thread on topic[0] and be nice[1]. I know everyone here is capable of that. Feel free to sling the personal crap comments somewhere more appropriate (such as a personal diary, blog, or in verbal complaints to a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-10 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 10-10-2008 14:40:13 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: Fabian Groffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - x64 is what the vendors (Apple, Sun) advertise themselves Err I'm sure I haven't seen any x64 in the documentation or advertisement of my MacBook Pro, are you sure _Apple_ uses that

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-10 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Fabian Groffen wrote: snip Most notably, in Prefix all keywords are full GLEP53 style, which results in e.g. amd64-linux. We did this on purpose, because in Prefix we don't necessarily are on Gentoo Linux. We also chose to expand fbsd, nbsd and obsd to their long variants, mainly because the

[gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI-2 and src_configure in eclasses

2008-10-10 Thread Duncan
Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:17:14 -0700: Consider this your first and last warning from Userrel. FWIW... at least on gmane, that appears as a response to aballier (gentoo dev), with references headers indicating the same

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-10 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
Fabian Groffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - x64 is what the vendors (Apple, Sun) advertise themselves Err I'm sure I haven't seen any x64 in the documentation or advertisement of my MacBook Pro, are you sure _Apple_ uses that totally bogus name? Anyway, em64t might be better, but then again

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 2 is brokened :(

2008-10-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:32:44 +0300 Mart Raudsepp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of those, and those in overlays, and those that are going to be committed over the next few weeks, how many use src_prepare to apply security related patches? A round zero. Security patches are going stable soon

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-10 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 20:11 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote: ia64-hpux There's one thing to say for this platform to avoid later confusion: 'ia64-hpux' is the keyword for 32bit on that platform. 'ia64w-hpux' would be the 64bit keyword (not in prefix-tree yet). This might seem confusing,

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:15:16 +0200 Fabian Groffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, x64 is the marketing name Microsoft made up for x86_64 (aka amd64, ia32e and Intel 64), as Windows for x86_64 doesn't sound that sexy, and was later adopted by Sun and others. ia64/Itanium doesn't have any

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Adding features to Portage that work on top of any EAPI

2008-10-10 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 19:46:55 +0200 large snip What's the scope of the changes? I think it'd be easiest to discuss this if you posted an informal summary describing the differences in terms of which bits of PMS are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-10 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:48:19 +0200 Fabian Groffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatever. Some of you seem to have some quite agressive dislikement to it. In the end it's just a name/tag. I guess I could live with anything, including c3p0. Well, while I dislike x64 I'm more concerned about

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI-2 and src_configure in eclasses

2008-10-10 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 5:41 AM, Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:17:14 -0700: Consider this your first and last warning from Userrel. FWIW... at least on gmane, that appears as a response to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Adding features to Portage that work on top of any EAPI

2008-10-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:40:53 -0500 Jeremy Olexa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a way I feel like we (the Prefix project) are mis-using the EAPI value. You're misusing it in the way you treat it as a set of strings rather than a single value. But this being an EAPI thing seems right. If we have

[gentoo-dev] net-nds/nis-utils needs a maintainer or it will get removed.

2008-10-10 Thread Alec Warner
If you don't use NIS or NIS+ you can stop reading now; if you do use NIS or NIS+...I'm so so sorry. The basic gist is this package is old and everyone should move to LDAP. Consider it masked in two weeks for removal in 30 days unless a maintainer is found. -Alec

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Bridge
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:56:37 +0200 Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:48:19 +0200 Fabian Groffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatever. Some of you seem to have some quite agressive dislikement to it. In the end it's just a name/tag. I guess I could live with