Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Deprecation of python_version(), python_mod_exists(), python_tkinter_exists(), distutils_python_version() and distutils_python_tkinter() in EAPI <=2

2010-03-03 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dne 3.3.2010 08:52, Ryan Hill napsal(a): > On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:52:55 +0200 > Petteri Räty wrote: > >> On 03/02/2010 08:27 PM, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: >>> Members of Gentoo Python Project have agreed to deprecate the following >

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2010-03-03 Thread Samuli Suominen
# Samuli Suominen (03 Mar 2010) # Masked for QA, security # # Internal copies of vuln. libraries # GLSA 200606-11, GLSA 200807-03 and likely more # # http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=247363 # # Removed in 60 days dev-lang/squeak

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Deprecation of python_version(), python_mod_exists(), python_tkinter_exists(), distutils_python_version() and distutils_python_tkinter() in EAPI <=2

2010-03-03 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
2010/3/3 Tomáš Chvátal : >>> Removing eclass functions like this is not allowed by current policy. If >>> you want to do it, you should discuss about changing policy. >> >> ?! >> >> since when? >> > Since ever. > If you change eclass abi you need to rename it. > I think you can *add* functions and

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2010-03-03 Thread Samuli Suominen
# Samuli Suominen (03 Mar 2010) # Masked for QA, security # # Internal copy of vuln. libltdl, CVE-2009-3736 # # Bugs 252402, 296953, 296954, 215252, 297649 # # Masked for removal in 60 days net-libs/libnetdude net-analyzer/netdude net-im/naim

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Deprecation of python_version(), python_mod_exists(), python_tkinter_exists(), distutils_python_version() and distutils_python_tkinter() in EAPI <=2

2010-03-03 Thread Petteri Räty
On 3.3.2010 11.23, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > 2010/3/3 Tomáš Chvátal : Removing eclass functions like this is not allowed by current policy. If you want to do it, you should discuss about changing policy. >>> >>> ?! >>> >>> since when? >>> >> Since ever. >> If you change eclass abi you nee

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2010-03-03 Thread Samuli Suominen
# Samuli Suominen (03 Mar 2010) # Masked for QA, security # # Internal copies of vuln. libpng, zlib # # Masked for removal in 60 days net-nntp/bnr2

[gentoo-dev] Lastrite: games-fps/openarena

2010-03-03 Thread Samuli Suominen
# Samuli Suominen (03 Mar 2010) # Masked for QA, security # # Internal copies of vuln. zlib, jpeg, speex and likely # others # # http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=255453 # # Masked for removal in 60 days. games-fps/openarena

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: games-fps/openarena

2010-03-03 Thread Joshua Saddler
On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:35:10 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote: > # Samuli Suominen (03 Mar 2010) > # Masked for QA, security > # > # Internal copies of vuln. zlib, jpeg, speex and likely > # others > # > # http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=255453 > # > # Masked for removal in 60 days. > games-fp

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2010-03-03 Thread Samuli Suominen
# Samuli Suominen (03 Mar 2010) # Masked for QA, security # # After over an year of no word from maintainers # # Internal copy of vuln. libltdl, CVE-2009-3736 # # Masked for removal in 60 days app-shells/pdsh

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2010-03-03 Thread Samuli Suominen
# Samuli Suominen (03 Mar 2010) # Masked for QA, security # # After more than a year of no word from maintainers # # Internal copy of vulnerable libpcre, bug 258330 # Remote command execution, CVE-2009-4016, bug 303735 # Build issues, bug 212255 # # Masked for removal in 60 days. net-irc/ircd-hybr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: games-fps/openarena

2010-03-03 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dne 3.3.2010 12:32, Joshua Saddler napsal(a): > On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:35:10 +0200 > Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> # Samuli Suominen (03 Mar 2010) >> # Masked for QA, security >> # >> # Internal copies of vuln. zlib, jpeg, speex and likely >> # others

[gentoo-dev] Re: Deprecation of python_version(), python_mod_exists(), python_tkinter_exists(), distutils_python_version() and distutils_python_tkinter() in EAPI <=2

2010-03-03 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:09:49 +0200 Petteri Räty wrote: > On 3.3.2010 11.23, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > > 2010/3/3 Tomáš Chvátal : > Removing eclass functions like this is not allowed by current policy. If > you want to do it, you should discuss about changing policy. > >>> > >>> ?! > >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Deprecation of python_version(), python_mod_exists(), python_tkinter_exists(), distutils_python_version() and distutils_python_tkinter() in EAPI <=2

2010-03-03 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:47:37 +0100 Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > >> Removing eclass functions like this is not allowed by current > >> policy. If you want to do it, you should discuss about changing > >> policy. > > > > since when? > > > Since ever. > If y

[gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite: games-fps/openarena

2010-03-03 Thread Ryan Hill
> Dne 3.3.2010 12:32, Joshua Saddler napsal(a): > > On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:35:10 +0200 > > Samuli Suominen wrote: > > > >> # Samuli Suominen (03 Mar 2010) > >> # Masked for QA, security > >> # > >> # Internal copies of vuln. zlib, jpeg, speex and likely > >> # others > >> # > >> # http://bugs.ge

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite: games-fps/openarena

2010-03-03 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 03/03/2010 02:58 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: >> Dne 3.3.2010 12:32, Joshua Saddler napsal(a): >>> On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:35:10 +0200 >>> Samuli Suominen wrote: >>> # Samuli Suominen (03 Mar 2010) # Masked for QA, security # # Internal copies of vuln. zlib, jpeg, speex and likely >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecation of python_version(), python_mod_exists(), python_tkinter_exists(), distutils_python_version() and distutils_python_tkinter() in EAPI <=2

2010-03-03 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Petteri Räty wrote: On 03/02/2010 08:27 PM, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: Members of Gentoo Python Project have agreed to deprecate the following functions in EAPI <=2: - python_version() - python_mod_exists() - python_tkinter_exists() - distutils_python_version() - distu

[gentoo-dev] Re: Deprecation of python_version(), python_mod_exists(), python_tkinter_exists(), distutils_python_version() and distutils_python_tkinter() in EAPI <=2

2010-03-03 Thread Duncan
Ciaran McCreesh posted on Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:47:41 + as excerpted: > On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:47:37 +0100 > Tomáš Chvátal wrote: >> >> Removing eclass functions like this is not allowed by current >> >> policy. If you want to do it, you should discuss about changing >> >> policy. >> > >> > si

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2010-03-03 Thread Samuli Suominen
# Samuli Suominen (03 Mar 2010) # Masked for QA, security # # Internal copy of vuln. libltdl, CVE-2009-3736 # # http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=277089 # # Masked for removal in 60 days dev-lang/gnu-smalltalk

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Deprecation of python_version(), python_mod_exists(), python_tkinter_exists(), distutils_python_version() and distutils_python_tkinter() in EAPI <=2

2010-03-03 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/03/2010 02:47 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:47:37 +0100 > Tomáa Chvátal wrote: Removing eclass functions like this is not allowed by current policy. If you want to do it, you should discuss about changing policy. >>> >>> since when? >>> >> Since ever. >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Deprecation of python_version(), python_mod_exists(), python_tkinter_exists(), distutils_python_version() and distutils_python_tkinter() in EAPI <=2

2010-03-03 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/03/2010 02:40 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: > On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:09:49 +0200 > Petteri Räty wrote: > >> On 3.3.2010 11.23, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: >>> 2010/3/3 Tomáš Chvátal : >> Removing eclass functions like this is not allowed by current policy. If >> you want to do it, you should dis

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite: games-fps/openarena

2010-03-03 Thread Michael Sterrett
I've remove the mask for games-fps/openarena. The mask was done without consulting the games team. On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 03/03/2010 02:58 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: >>> Dne 3.3.2010 12:32, Joshua Saddler napsal(a): On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:35:10 +0200 Sam

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite: games-fps/openarena

2010-03-03 Thread Mark Loeser
Michael Sterrett said: > I've remove the mask for games-fps/openarena. > > The mask was done without consulting the games team. This is no reason to remove the mask. The games team had more than enough time to fix the package. I'll be adding the mask back as the package is vulnerable via multi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite: games-fps/openarena

2010-03-03 Thread Markos Chandras
On Wednesday 03 March 2010 18:29:13 Mark Loeser wrote: > Michael Sterrett said: > > I've remove the mask for games-fps/openarena. > > > > The mask was done without consulting the games team. > > This is no reason to remove the mask. The games team had more than > enough time to fix the package.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps

2010-03-03 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On E, 2010-03-01 at 13:40 -0800, Zac Medico wrote: > On 03/01/2010 01:24 PM, Ben de Groot wrote: > > For some reason beyond my understanding, we have the cups useflag > > enabled by default in profiles. This has started to generate circular > > dependencies, at least for desktop profile users (gtk

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps

2010-03-03 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > I don't think there was any such problem until poppler maintainers > decided to unsplit poppler into one big packages with USE flags again > instead of the nice split poppler, poppler-glib (that should have been > named poppler-cairo probably

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite: games-fps/openarena

2010-03-03 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: > On Wednesday 03 March 2010 18:29:13 Mark Loeser wrote: >> Michael Sterrett said: >> > I've remove the mask for games-fps/openarena. >> > >> > The mask was done without consulting the games team. >> >> This is no reason to remove the mask.  

[gentoo-dev] Re: Deprecation of python_version(), python_mod_exists(), python_tkinter_exists(), distutils_python_version() and distutils_python_tkinter() in EAPI <=2

2010-03-03 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:55:41 +0200 Petteri Räty wrote: > On 03/03/2010 02:40 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: > > Is this actually documented anywhere? Or is this another of our > > "this-is-policy-because-everyone-knows-it's-policy" policies? I know there > > was a technical issue with removing pkg_*_rm

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps

2010-03-03 Thread Ben de Groot
On 3 March 2010 19:45, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > I don't believe we should selectively cripple one GUI toolkit with not > having proper printing support out of the box on a desktop profile, > while others do, just because maintainers are lazy. I'm not talking about selectively disabling cups. My pro

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps

2010-03-03 Thread Ben de Groot
On 3 March 2010 19:54, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > Also of note is that we've made efforts to split packages to avoid > circular dependencies[1]. So it's really silly to add circular deps by > un-splitting packages. I think it's silly to split packages for no good reason. And doing it to avoid circ

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps

2010-03-03 Thread Nathan Zachary
On 03/03/10 15:51, Ben de Groot wrote: > On 3 March 2010 19:45, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > >> I don't believe we should selectively cripple one GUI toolkit with not >> having proper printing support out of the box on a desktop profile, >> while others do, just because maintainers are lazy. >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps

2010-03-03 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On 03/03/10 15:51, Ben de Groot wrote: On 3 March 2010 19:45, Mart Raudsepp wrote: I don't believe we should selectively cripple one GUI toolkit with not having proper printing support out of the box on a desktop profile, w

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps

2010-03-03 Thread Nathan Zachary
I'm not talking about selectively disabling cups. My proposal is >>> to no longer enable the cups useflag in the base profile. I don't >>> think cups should be part of the base profile, and as a result >>> cascading to the desktop profile. And a lot of people seem to >>> agree. Users can always ena

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps

2010-03-03 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: I'm not talking about selectively disabling cups. My proposal is to no longer enable the cups useflag in the base profile. I don't think cups should be part of the base profile, and as a result cascading to the desktop profil

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps

2010-03-03 Thread Nathan Zachary
On 03/03/10 20:17, Dale wrote: > chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: >> I'm not talking about selectively disabling cups. My proposal is >> > to no longer enable the cups useflag in the base profile. I don't > think cups should be part of the base profile,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps

2010-03-03 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On 03/03/10 20:17, Dale wrote: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: I'm not talking about selectively disabling cups. My proposal is to no longer enable the cups useflag in the base profile. I don'

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps

2010-03-03 Thread Richard Freeman
On 03/03/2010 09:41 PM, Dale wrote: So in the situation above, removing cups doesn't help any? The user would still have to work around the dependency problem. Is there not a better way to handle this? Agreed that there should be better ways of handling things. However, at the very least if so

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps

2010-03-03 Thread Dale
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On 03/03/2010 09:41 PM, Dale wrote: So in the situation above, removing cups doesn't help any? The user would still have to work around the dependency problem. Is there not a better way to handle this? Agreed that there should

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps

2010-03-03 Thread Dawid Węgliński
On Wednesday 03 March 2010 22:51:10 Ben de Groot wrote: > On 3 March 2010 19:45, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > I don't believe we should selectively cripple one GUI toolkit with not > > having proper printing support out of the box on a desktop profile, > > while others do, just because maintainers are

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps

2010-03-03 Thread Joshua Saddler
> On 3 March 2010 19:45, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > I don't believe we should selectively cripple one GUI toolkit with not > > having proper printing support out of the box on a desktop profile, > > while others do, just because maintainers are lazy. > > It is not something that is necessary for r

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Deprecation of python_version(), python_mod_exists(), python_tkinter_exists(), distutils_python_version() and distutils_python_tkinter() in EAPI <=2

2010-03-03 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/03/2010 11:39 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: >> >> Also policies should be changed when they don't make sense any more as I >> said in my first response but I am not sure if that's the case here. > > The problem is I don't think this is actually a policy. One of the first > projects I did as a develo

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps

2010-03-03 Thread Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 11:08:07PM -0800, Joshua Saddler wrote: > > > On 3 March 2010 19:45, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > > I don't believe we should selectively cripple one GUI toolkit with not > > > having proper printing support out of the box on a desktop profile, > > > while others do, just beca

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Deprecation of python_version(), python_mod_exists(), python_tkinter_exists(), distutils_python_version() and distutils_python_tkinter() in EAPI <=2

2010-03-03 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010, Petteri Räty wrote: > If we decide allowing removal of functions, we should come up with a > common procedure like the eclass removal policy: > http://devmanual.gentoo.org/eclass-writing/index.html I think removal of functions is a special case of "Adding and Updating E

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Deprecation of python_version(), python_mod_exists(), python_tkinter_exists(), distutils_python_version() and distutils_python_tkinter() in EAPI <=2

2010-03-03 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/04/2010 09:39 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010, Petteri Räty wrote: > >> If we decide allowing removal of functions, we should come up with a >> common procedure like the eclass removal policy: >> http://devmanual.gentoo.org/eclass-writing/index.html > > I think removal