Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Dale
need to react as quickly as they can to the devs actions.  Let's just not overreact just yet.  The devs has rolled back to a safe, safer, version.  Let time and more info sort this out. If it is needed, xz will go away, which shouldn't come as a surprise.  I'm sure the person who

Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Dale
at will either fix the issue for good or at least provide a workaround until a solution is found. Gentoo has some awesome devs. Someone will find a solution. I notice that it has already been changed in the tree to a version that does not have the malicious code. That alone should be a solution until a new plan is made. While I'm a little concerned and hope for a proper solution, I'm not to worried. I certainly don't think we should overreact this early. Give the devs and upstream time to work this out. Just a users opinion. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-16 Thread Dale
Sam James wrote: > Oskari Pirhonen writes: > >> [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] >> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 03:10:51 -0500, Dale wrote: >>> Andrew Ammerlaan wrote: >>>> And then another thing, how is it possible that so many people missed >>>> th

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-13 Thread Dale
e number of people who did, could there have been a glitch and it didn't show for some weird reason?  Has someone who understands the code checked to see if there was some typo that made it not show for most users?  I do think this is worth looking into.  It just seems odd.  Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-13 Thread Dale
Alexe Stefan wrote: > On 9/13/23, Dale wrote: >> Alexe Stefan wrote: >>> While my posts may be a little bit inflammatory, no one pointed out >>> where I'm wrong. >>> I don't hate gentoo, but I don't want choice to be taken away from user

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-12 Thread Dale
emerge has improved and how dependencies are resolved with ease for us users.  The work on the emerge command and ebuilds has improved a LOT.  I still wish the error output was more friendly but hey, at least there is a whole lot less of it.  :-D  Let's deal with what is in front of us.  Thanks again to the devs.  Dale :-)  :-)  I'm going back to my hole now. 

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-12 Thread Dale
t one should check configs and make sure there is no systemd/udev entries, in case it masks or prevents something from being installed.  I already checked mine. My vote, give it time.  If someone steps up, great.  If not, we just have to switch to udev and move on.  Debating it even more is unlikely to change anything and may even send some running away.  I just wish we knew just how many people actually used eudev.  Based on this thread, I know of 2.  I know one of them can't code.  That's me!!  ;-)  My $0.02 worth.  Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-11 Thread Dale
that no one wants to take it.  Like others, I use it but didn't know it wasn't maintained anymore.  I hope someone will step up but if not, looks like we have to use udev.  Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] making rust-bin ordered first in virtual/rust

2022-01-17 Thread Dale
all guide so new users are aware of this, provided it isn't already mentioned.  Gentoo is known for compiling from sources.  Defaulting to a package that is a binary but available as a package from source that requires compiling, that would be unexpected.  Just my $0.02 worth, as a user.  Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] check-reqs.eclass: clamp MAKEOPTS for memory/RAM usage

2022-01-05 Thread Dale
kages as well.  How to do that, I'm not a coder so no idea but I know there are some awesome coders here who may can find a way.  If that idea is even something that could be done.  Since I rarely post here, keep up the great work.  :-D Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last-rites: app-admin/lastpass-cli

2021-03-14 Thread Dale
y be worth mentioning somewhere that you can export from Lastpass and import to Bitwarden and not lose any passwords.  My switching took about 5 minutes, some of which is downloading the sources and add-ons.  Thought it worth a mention. Dale :-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Codec project

2020-06-11 Thread Dale
vious problem. As a user, how about media?  Multimedia?  Or would those interfere with other packages? I might add, regardless of name, will it be active enough to keep it alive or will it go the same as the last?  Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-dev] x11-base/xorg-server: No longer enabling suid by default.

2020-05-26 Thread Dale
st that there should be some sort of notice about the change.  One that is easily seen since it can cause problems.  In the middle of typing, I made the change and ran into no problems so far. I restarted the GUI and logged in just fine. Just a users perspective.  Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cleaning up the installation handbook (Legacy boot / MBR / ...)

2020-05-02 Thread Dale
> My system is not to old and would need legacy as a option as well.  I actually picked one that didn't do EFI and such.  I'd be fine with a link to another page tho.  It may make it easier for everyone else while those of us with legacy can still get to the info.  Users point of view. Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-dev] separate /usr without initramfs

2019-10-25 Thread Dale
William Hubbs wrote: > Hi Dale, > > I would like to call your attention to a couple of things in my message. > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 01:40:10PM -0500, Dale wrote: >> William Hubbs wrote: > *snip* > >>> I want to hear from people who have / and /usr on sep

Re: [gentoo-dev] separate /usr without initramfs

2019-10-25 Thread Dale
ot looking forward to the other situation you mentioned either.  At some point, having separate partitions won't be easy with or without a init thingy.  I can't easily resize / without reworking the whole thing. Just my point of view on why I don't like the thing and wish I didn't have to have one.  Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last Rites: Ancient x11-drivers/*

2017-11-24 Thread Dale
n x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev: kde-plasma/plasma-desktop-5.11.3 (mouse ? x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev) x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.19 (input_devices_evdev ? x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev)  * These packages depend on x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa: x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.19 (video_cards_vesa ? x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa) root@fireball / # What will change without it, not sure.  :/ Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-dev] Providing a `service` scripts that speaks OpenRC and systemd

2017-09-28 Thread Dale
ed not long ago and as far as I can tell, nothing came of it.  https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/9bd54475fc23b9c265984c5a91129710  Hope that link works, if not, this is the subject of the discussion.  "[openrc] [systemd] make `service` common for both OpenRC and SystemD (like Debian/Ubuntu/whatever did)" It has a few replies. Dale :-)  :-)  * *

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should Sphinx really depends on PYTHON_COMPAT/PYTHON_USEDEP for `dev-python/*` ebuilds?

2017-05-12 Thread Dale
o that before when I'm googling trying to get something to work to only find out that the way things are set up has changed and no longer applies to what I have installed. Having the docs included when available should be required. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-dev+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org

2017-02-27 Thread Dale
Christophe Farges wrote: > Not quite there. List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org> Send a empty email TO that address not with it in the subject line. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc 0.22 updates (second draft)

2016-09-26 Thread Dale
William Hubbs wrote: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:27:18PM -0500, Dale wrote: >> William Hubbs wrote: >> >> "then overridden bby configuration stored in" >> >> should be >> >> "then overridden by configuration stored in" >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc 0.22 updates (second draft)

2016-09-26 Thread Dale
William Hubbs wrote: "then overridden bby configuration stored in" should be "then overridden by configuration stored in" Minor typo or sticky keyboard. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project

2016-06-08 Thread Dale
ould be done, then users who don't use it won't be bothered by it but users who do will get the news announcement about its future. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] please remove me off your mailing list

2016-05-23 Thread Dale
Kent Fredric wrote: > On 24 May 2016 at 08:08, Dale wrote: >> Nope. It doesn't work that way. Try this: >> >> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org> >> >> Send a empty email to that and I think you have to confirm. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] please remove me off your mailing list

2016-05-23 Thread Dale
Tyler Pohl wrote: > tylerap...@gmail.com <mailto:tylerap...@gmail.com> > > Thanks, > -- > Tyler Pohl Nope. It doesn't work that way. Try this: List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org> Send a empty email to that and I think you have to confirm. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] usr merge

2016-04-09 Thread Dale
on top of RAID or something equally > complex. If you're already running that kernel version, you don't even > need to specify it. > FYI. I've had those to fail too. As Walt said, just one more thing to fail. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing order of default virtual/udev provider

2016-02-09 Thread Dale
ry that enabled systemd for a package. Once that was found and removed, the switch was like it should be. Unmerge udev and emerge eudev. Back to my hole. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing order of default virtual/udev provider

2016-02-08 Thread Dale
t. >>> >> just pile the pressure on :) > +1 > I use eudev on all setups (both home and work) for years now. > The experience is yummy. > > Best regards, > Andrew Savchenko +1 As a lowly user, I switched very shortly after eudev was started. I think it was like the second or third release. So far, I've not seen any problems. It just works. One thing about Gentoo, for those who don't want eudev, they can always select another tool. Back to my hole. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: News item: GRUB security update

2015-12-19 Thread Dale
I read a blog is if it is linked to here or on -user. Other than that, rarely if ever. All things considered, if it isn't a news item or something I follow on this list, I may never know about it. I really depend on the news items. Just keep the noise down or folks will start to ignore them too, although y'all are good at it only telling us about things that affect us. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ChangeLog

2015-11-03 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Dale wrote: >> That is why a link was posted for me to use github instead. I >> do realize and understand that git and github are two different things >> but it seems they can work together as well. It ended up that the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ChangeLog

2015-11-02 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Dale wrote: >> I thought Gentoo was not depending on git/github either. > Take 5min and read the wikipedia articles on both git and github, please. > > Gentoo is not going to depend on github, because of the social

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ChangeLog

2015-11-02 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Dale wrote: >> I thought Gentoo was not depending on git/github either. > Take 5min and read the wikipedia articles on both git and github, please. > > Gentoo is not going to depend on github, because of the social

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ChangeLog

2015-11-02 Thread Dale
Matt Turner wrote: > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Dale wrote: >> hasufell wrote: >>> On 11/02/2015 10:54 PM, Dale wrote: >>>> Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 14:00:18 -0600 >>>>> Dale wrote: >>>>&g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ChangeLog

2015-11-02 Thread Dale
hasufell wrote: > On 11/02/2015 10:54 PM, Dale wrote: >> Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >>> On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 14:00:18 -0600 >>> Dale wrote: >>>> Rich Freeman wrote: >>>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Dale wrote: >>>>>> Then

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ChangeLog

2015-11-02 Thread Dale
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 14:00:18 -0600 > Dale wrote: >> Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Dale wrote: >>>> Then perhaps all this should have been worked out BEFORE switching >>>> to github? >>> We did

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ChangeLog

2015-11-02 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Dale wrote: >> Then perhaps all this should have been worked out BEFORE switching to >> github? > We didn't switch to github. Then why are people saying to use git to look at the logs? I don't want to use git.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ChangeLog

2015-11-01 Thread Dale
s to think it worth fixing. I noticed that as soon as I saw the you need to figure out a way to fix it yourself comment. One thing about being around so long, when you see that comment, you may as well kiss it good bye. That's code for we aren't going to fix it, you figure out a way for yourself. It's rare that anything gets fixed after that. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] drop iputils from @system (i.e. ping)

2015-10-15 Thread Dale
is tiny. > > A lot of hosts now block ICMP requests but it's just habit for many to type > `ping google.com` or similar to test when they suspect their internet is down. > > Andrew > +1 I do this all the time myself. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] tcltk herd empty

2015-10-03 Thread Dale
Joshua Kinard wrote: > On 10/02/2015 08:44, Dale wrote: >> Michał Górny wrote: >>> Dnia 2015-10-02, o godz. 03:38:16 >>> Daniel Campbell napisał(a): >>> >>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>>> Hash: SHA256 >>>> >&

Re: [gentoo-dev] tcltk herd empty

2015-10-02 Thread Dale
-20140316:0 [IP-] [ ] virtual/python-imaging-2:0 root@fireball / # equery h tcl * Searching for USE flag tcl ... [IP-] [ ] dev-db/sqlite-3.8.10.2:3 [IP-] [ ] media-gfx/graphviz-2.26.3-r4:0 [IP-] [ ] net-analyzer/rrdtool-1.5.4:0 [IP-] [ ] net-im/pidgin-2.10.11:0 [IP-] [ ] sys-libs/db-4.8.30-r2:4.8 root@fireball / # Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: USE="gui"

2015-09-11 Thread Dale
eplacement. > +1 If there is not some way to disable/enable things, there is little point is using Gentoo. Actually, Gentoo loses something huge that makes Gentoo different. Besides, how would you tell a package how and what to compile without USE flags?? Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC

2015-09-08 Thread Dale
l been working on getting this done for well . . . ages now. Even if there was another year of waiting, there would still have been a few bumps/issues to work out. Just keep up the good work and thanks for all you do. I been bumping around Gentoo for over a decade now. It doesn't get any

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC

2015-09-07 Thread Dale
Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 09/06/2015 05:10 PM, Dale wrote: > > Robin H. Johnson wrote: > >> The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or > >> removed from the tree, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC. > >> > >> Removals:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC

2015-09-06 Thread Dale
ntoo.org > GnuPG FP : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85 U. You sure? Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Excessive rsync time after git migration

2015-08-15 Thread Dale
thrashing, and what used to be a few seconds to sync is now > taking 5-10mins or more (depending on which machine I'm syncing). > I have synced a few times since the change and each time, it takes a lot longer to sync. You are not the only one that has noticed this. No clue as to why or how to fix tho. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] useflag policies

2015-08-03 Thread Dale
it to work right, sometimes portage's error message is cryptic to say the least. If I took your point wrong, my apologies. Lowly user. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: useflag policies

2015-08-03 Thread Dale
de a little user info about expectations and settings. Y'all sort out the best way forward and let us know if we need to change something. :-) Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] A question to Russian Gentoo Developers Community about import software substitution

2015-07-08 Thread Dale
Tyler Pohl wrote: > > How can I unsucribe from this mailing list > > https://gentoo.org/get-involved/mailing-lists/instructions.html Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item review: SquashDelta syncing support

2015-05-17 Thread Dale
and wish more things, new features for example, would be posted there. Sometimes portage has a new feature and unless one reads the man page, one has no clue. Of course, my wish is not limited to portage's new features. Other new Gentoo things would be nice too. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2014-07-20 23h59 UTC

2014-07-21 Thread Dale
Diamond wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 00:25:02 + > "Robin H. Johnson" wrote: > > >> Removals: >> net-misc/curl2014-07-15 09:29:56 blueness > Is this a joke? Isn't curl as basic package as wget? > > Look under additions. It's there. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: news item for upower

2014-06-04 Thread Dale
ould have never occurred to me. I might add, I been using Gentoo since 2003. I'm not a dev for sure and don't do scripting stuff so diggin in the ebuilds doesn't generally help me much either. Just a users point of view. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-13 Thread Dale
ell or better? >> Is cronie a drop-in replacement, or do I have to do some thinking when >> replacing vixie-cron? >> > It should be a drop-in. The only change to make would be to remove > vixie-cron and add cronie to the default runlevel. > > I switched my system and tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Official way to do rolling update (Was: Re: Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec)

2013-11-04 Thread Dale
Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 14:02:28 -0600 > Dale wrote: > >> You are right, it does require prior knowledge and as a user gets that >> knowledge, they likely end up where Alan, Duncan and myself are. That >> would be emerge -uaDN world. > > And

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Official way to do rolling update (Was: Re: Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec)

2013-11-04 Thread Dale
Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 06:06:52 -0600 > Dale wrote: > >> But after a person has used Gentoo a while, they figure out what >> process leads to the most stable update process. > > Do they? What do you consider a stable update process? I consider it stab

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Official way to do rolling update (Was: Re: Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec)

2013-11-04 Thread Dale
re stable system is to do a emerge -e world and update that way. At least that has been my experience so far. If Zac adds some other nifty feature, then I may add to the above as needed. For the past few years, that has resulted in as stable a system as I can get. I do from time to time run emerge -e world just for giggles when I have something acting odd and can't put my finger on the issue. Sometimes, that fixes it, sometimes not. Again, most of this comes from experience. The handbook explains it then the user figures it out from there. My $0.02 worth. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-16 Thread Dale
too. I use that but still make a backup myself, just in case. Generally, a successful reboot is a good sign that the configs are working. Going to look into this but the home page doesn't really show me much, yet. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-16 Thread Dale
I reboot and everything works, I make a new backup of /etc. Going to add /var/lib to that to now. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] revbumping ebuilds after USE dependency changes

2013-07-25 Thread Dale
-p2p/transmission/transmission-2.80.ebuild?r1=1.1&r2=1.2 > > Thanks, As a lowly user, I have been banging on this for a few days now. I'm almost bald from all the hair pulling. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Switchup-mode and boottime selector? Was: eselect init

2013-05-29 Thread Dale
> In case you missed the post, thought I would provide it to clear up the matter. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Dale
well. Speaking of, I need to update again. I stopped using it because I was always having either one trouble or another. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Dale
go (remember, my first successful gentoo install was 2004.1), the > fstab example file found in /usr/share/baselayout/fstab was packaged as > /etc/fstab directly. Now, the handbook of the era took great pains to > guide people thru editing it appropriately, saying the ALLCAPS entries

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: new "qt" category

2013-01-20 Thread Dale
Ben de Groot wrote: > On 20 January 2013 21:35, Dale wrote: >> Same here. I have had to re-emerge qt packages several times myself. >> It seems that when I do, I have to do them all one at a time too. > In which case you're better off with something like: >emerge -a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: new "qt" category

2013-01-20 Thread Dale
>> kde-meta, or emerge -uD1 @world ...) > More often than one might think. =:^] > > Same here. I have had to re-emerge qt packages several times myself. It seems that when I do, I have to do them all one at a time too. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-21 Thread Dale
> system boots correctly without issues. > > -- > Joost > > Same here. I have /usr on LVM and plan to use eudev as SOON as it is ready. I'm just waiting on someone to post that it is as easy as unmerging udev and emerging eudev and maybe a reboot. Dale :-) :-) --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-21 Thread Dale
J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Friday, December 21, 2012 08:52:00 AM Dale wrote: >> J. Roeleveld wrote: >>> On Friday, December 21, 2012 08:51:09 AM Ian Stakenvicius wrote: >>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>>> Hash: SHA256 >>>> >>>&

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-21 Thread Dale
;>> well. >> Just to be clear, by "init*" you mean {initrd,initramfs} , correct? > Yes > > On the Gentoo-user mailing list, that's one of the two common ways of > referring to it. The other one is " init-thingy ". ;) > > -- > Joost > &

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Wordiness

2012-12-21 Thread Dale
text and good reasoning. I might also add, some people write short emails then have responses that request more info. I think Duncan just heads those off and makes his point the first time around. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-20 Thread Dale
) path >> and move things at least one level up. Two would be even better. > You shouldn't ever be typing that path in... > I was thinking tab completion myself. Just hit a couple letters and hit tab. That tab key types much faster and more accurately than I can. ;-) Dale :

Re: [gentoo-dev] eudev project announcement

2012-12-15 Thread Dale
ngs, that's what Gentoo > is about - choice. > > I wish eudev both good luck and success. Success comes in many forms, > so I won't try to predict exactly what that means. Suffice to say, we > will all recognise it when we see it. > +1 and I'm looking forward to us

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-01 Thread Dale
small business, that could mean > thousands of dollars. > > "Ha ha, you shouldn't have trusted me!" is not the appropriate response. > > If you see the flag changing, best find out what that change is about BEFORE you update. I do this every time I update. I check US

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-01 Thread Dale
sons hand. If a person needs their hands held, they should have chosen another distro. Gentoo is not a hand holding distro. It's just a distro that has great docs for people to learn first, then update. This has been a users perspective. Back to my hole. ;-) Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to raise money for Gentoo

2012-09-27 Thread Dale
Alec Warner wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Dale wrote: >> wbrana wrote: >>> Page www.gentoo.org asks for donations >>> "Donate to support our development efforts." >>> Gentoo could get more money if all *.gentoo.org would contain >>&

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to raise money for Gentoo

2012-09-27 Thread Dale
wbrana wrote: > Page www.gentoo.org asks for donations > "Donate to support our development efforts." > Gentoo could get more money if all *.gentoo.org would contain advertisements. > > My questions are this: Does Gentoo need more money? Is it in need of more funds

Re: [gentoo-dev] Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

2012-08-07 Thread Dale
should not even be tried because it is known to not work. Given that, if a person tries to use mdev to replace udev in a situation where it is known not to work, then they should read more closely. It's not Walters fault, it's the person in the chair. Now, since Walter didn't like the way things are going, can he write code and be left in peace to do so? Maybe have a little bit of support while he is doing it? Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: news item: changes to stages (make.conf and make.profile)

2012-07-24 Thread Dale
n pointing it out. > > Sure, when my system breaks I'm pretty smart and can usually figure > out how to fix it. That doesn't mean that I don't appreciate a > heads-up before it breaks. > > Rich > > +1 I might also add, I printed the manual years ago. I rare

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: news item: changes to stages (make.conf and make.profile)

2012-07-24 Thread Dale
may not apply to me but I always keep in mind that it may apply to a large number of other users. I would MUCH rather see a message sent out that doesn't apply to me than to not see one that should have been sent out but wasn't. Just a users opinion and expectations. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Opinion against /usr merge

2012-07-17 Thread Dale
William Hubbs wrote: > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 06:13:06PM -0500, Dale wrote: >> William Hubbs wrote: >>> >>> This is not quite correct. The initramfs is required because of [1]. >>> >>> >>> William >>> >> Where is [1]? >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Opinion against /usr merge

2012-07-17 Thread Dale
William Hubbs wrote: > > This is not quite correct. The initramfs is required because of [1]. > > > William > Where is [1]? Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UEFI secure boot and Gentoo

2012-06-17 Thread Dale
as going to have to pay M$ to run Linux, I was thinking of shooting them with laser eyes or something. I have no plans to ever support M$ in any shape, form or fashion. Period. Thing is, they will likely try to make it so you can't disable it eventually. Some politician will try to make it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About using USE flags to pull in needed RDEPENDs being discouraged by devmanual

2012-06-16 Thread Dale
nd want it in the world file, just use the --select option. If I already emerged something but then want to add it to the world file, just add the -n option too. That keeps the world file clean and I can test things before adding anything to the world file. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only respon

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: remove ldap from desktop profiles use flags

2012-05-05 Thread Dale
Ben wrote: > On 6 May 2012 08:29, Dale wrote: >> I mentioned this once a long time ago. We expect things to stay the >> same unless we do something to change them. If things change without us >> doing the change, we tend to freak out a bit. We don't need any >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: remove ldap from desktop profiles use flags

2012-05-05 Thread Dale
Michael Weber wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 05/05/2012 09:55 PM, Dale wrote: >> Not to mention, you add the possibility that the user may miss the >> change since they are not expecting it. I would expect it when I >> was cha

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: remove ldap from desktop profiles use flags

2012-05-05 Thread Dale
dropping ldap from the desktop profiles. > > I don't like this change much. There are valid use cases for an ldap use > flag in the desktop profile that could break easily with this change. > > Also, you could make the same case for adding -ldap to your make.conf Not to mention,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-05-04 Thread Dale
ppiness is set to 20. In other words, only use swap when it is getting deep. It was using half my swap so it must have been pretty deep. So, even dbus can have a bad day at times. Sure wish I knew what caused it tho. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-28 Thread Dale
e portage tree partition, and > occasionally accidentally do an emerge without it mounted. > Having portage decide that it should automatically start downloading a > new tree directly onto the filesystem containing the mountpoint is *NOT* > ideal! > +1 Dale :-) :-) -- I am only

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-28 Thread Dale
Duncan wrote: > Dale posted on Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:35:40 -0500 as excerpted: > >> Joshua Saddler wrote: > Agreed, tho ACTUALLY having the documentation available, AND LINKING to > it in the handbook ("For an in-depth discussion, read..."), would be a > good thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-28 Thread Dale
in /var are in the same boat. A user could use a file system that is better at this sort of thing and have only one partition to handle it all. Back to my hole. Twice now. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-28 Thread Dale
to install just to look and then have a separate manual, wiki even, for more serious set ups. This can include things like RAID, LVM and having more than a couple partitions. Of course, Gentoo is almost endless in options. Back to my hole. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: newsitem: unmasking udev-181

2012-03-10 Thread Dale
; upgrade udev. This situation is a heck of a lot easier to figure out > if the system still can be booted when the initramfs doesn't work. > > Rich > > +1 Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"

Re: [gentoo-dev] About masking net-misc/mDNSResponder for removal

2012-02-13 Thread Dale
c/mDNSResponder) media-libs/libgphoto2-2.4.11-r1 (zeroconf ? net-misc/mDNSResponder) net-misc/ntp-4.2.6_p4 (zeroconf ? net-misc/mDNSResponder) I'm assuming this is not going to break something. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The following USE changes are necessary to proceed - Why?

2012-02-10 Thread Dale
t it or make it a different color or >>> something? >> >> Okay, done: >> >> http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/portage.git;a=commit;h=2d08e6c4520556e5acc0055cdb3d68028eed3243 > > wOOt! > Yea, he's getting quicker all the time. I'm

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-21 Thread Dale
Zac Medico wrote: > On 01/21/2012 01:34 PM, Dale wrote: >> Michał Górny wrote: >>>> It's funny how I never needed one before either but now things are >>>> being broken. It's not LVM that is breaking it either. I wouldn't >>>> need t

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-21 Thread Dale
Michał Górny wrote: > On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:34:39 -0600 > Dale wrote: > >> Michał Górny wrote: >>> On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:28:54 -0600 >>> Dale wrote: >>> >>>> Michał Górny wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 01:20:03 -0600 >&

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-21 Thread Dale
Michał Górny wrote: > On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:28:54 -0600 > Dale wrote: > >> Michał Górny wrote: >>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 01:20:03 -0600 >>> Dale wrote: >>> >>>> Michał Górny wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 21:38:26 -0600 >&

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-21 Thread Dale
Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 01:20:03 -0600 > Dale wrote: > >> Michał Górny wrote: >>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 21:38:26 -0600 >>> Dale wrote: >>> >>>> Michał Górny wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:14:52 +0100

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-libs/glibc: glibc-2.14.1-r2.ebuild glibc-2.12.2.ebuild glibc-9999.ebuild glibc-2.15.ebuild glibc-2.10.1-r1.ebuild glibc-2.14.1-r1.ebuild

2012-01-18 Thread Dale
e that requires a recompile. I do wish sometimes that both changes could be done at the same time. I'm not complaining mind you. It's just a wish. I'm with Duncan tho. It's cold right now. I can't get folding to download a unit and I need some HEAT. Dale :-) :-) --

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-17 Thread Dale
Michał Górny wrote: On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 21:38:26 -0600 Dale wrote: Michał Górny wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:14:52 +0100 Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Micha?? Górny schrieb: Does working hard involve compiling even more packages statically? I guess, he means keeping udev in / ? Because

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-17 Thread Dale
Mike Gilbert wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Dale wrote: Michał Górny wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:14:52 +0100 Enrico Weigeltwrote: * Micha?? Górnyschrieb: Does working hard involve compiling even more packages statically? I guess, he means keeping udev in / ? Because

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-17 Thread Dale
80Kbs, or maybe my calculator is broken. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-11 Thread Dale
Alec Warner wrote: On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Michał Górny wrote: It is a hack. Your opinion is noted, but that doesn't make better or worse than other folks ideas. -A -- Best regards, Michał Górny I agree. It doesn't break things that was working either. Dale :-) :-

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