Am Samstag, den 22.08.2009, 01:54 +0100 schrieb AllenJB:
From what I've seen here, at least part of the problem here stems from
the fact that this feature won't be considered until EAPI-4, and that
means it might be a long way off yet. This, in my mind, raises the
question of whether the
Tiziano Müller wrote:
As you can see currently, most time is needed to implemente the features
in portage. It therefore doesn't make sense to make the EAPI process
even faster. On the other hand, I think it would make sense to have a
separate group developing new EAPIs instead of the council.
On 08/22/2009 06:40 AM, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 08/22/2009 05:59 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 08/22/2009 05:39 AM, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
Sebastian Pipping wrote:
Commits are done automatically, triggering and pushing is
manual at the moment.
By now a
On 8/22/09, Andrew D Kirch trel...@trelane.net wrote:
Right, this is called punishing innovation. It's a hobby of
bureaucrats everywhere.
It could also be said to be punishing excellence.
If it wasn't a sort of a bug (some omission in the original PMS?),
then I suppose this could also be
Sebastian Pipping schrieb:
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
There seems to be a bit of (minimal) duplication between pure-funtoo and
sunrise:
app-office/thinking-rock-bin
dev-tex/mimetex
x11-drivers/xf86-video-nouveau
And since sunrise is the most popular overlay, it might be a good idea
media-libs/jpeg-7 installs .so.7.0.0 so this causes some headacke for
binary applications:
media-libs/jpeg-compat-6b will install libjpeg.so.62{,.0.0} for use with
binary applications, let me know if there is a trouble with the package.
This means you have change deps to || (
Samuli Suominen wrote:
This means you have change deps to || ( media-libs/jpeg-compat
=media-libs/jpeg-7 ) for example. Feel free to use suitable alternative
syntaxes.
Typo. Correct:
|| ( media-libs/jpeg-compat media-libs/jpeg-7 )
Am Samstag, den 22.08.2009, 02:23 -0400 schrieb Andrew D Kirch:
Tiziano Müller wrote:
As you can see currently, most time is needed to implemente the features
in portage. It therefore doesn't make sense to make the EAPI process
even faster. On the other hand, I think it would make sense to
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:01:47 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
media-libs/jpeg-7 installs .so.7.0.0 so this causes some headacke for
binary applications:
Doesn't this mean you should slot it?
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Ciaran McCreesh
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:01:47 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
media-libs/jpeg-7 installs .so.7.0.0 so this causes some headacke for
binary applications:
Doesn't this mean you should slot it?
No. I only want the .so.62 for binary apps, thus the
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Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 08/22/2009 06:40 AM, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Huh? This is true of all overlays.
Not the ones I'm using.
Have you ever used the X11, GNOME or KDE teams overlays? Most of the
overlays around exist
Samuli Suominen wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:01:47 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
media-libs/jpeg-7 installs .so.7.0.0 so this causes some headacke for
binary applications:
Doesn't this mean you should slot it?
No. I only
Mounir Lamouri wrote:
No. I only want the .so.62 for binary apps, thus the ebuild won't
install anything but the shared libs
You wrote a header was now private so it will probably make a lot of
ebuilds incompatible with 7.0. Maybe slotting could be useful even for them.
No.
The include was
On 08/22/2009 04:27 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
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Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 08/22/2009 06:40 AM, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Huh? This is true of all overlays.
Not the ones I'm using.
Have you ever used the X11,
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Of course that's my personal opinion. I don't use
developer/experimental overlays, I only use those who provide some
extra packages I want. And I was under the impression that pure-funtoo
falls under this category: providing packages that don't exist in portage.
Fernando V Orocu (likewhoa) has been working on getting the 10.0 LiveDVD
images in shape for the Gentoo 10th year anniversary release. We need
some assistance in terms of LiveDVD testers, user suggestions for new
packages software testers since there will be over 100+ new packages
on this release
Samuli Suominen wrote:
Fernando V Orocu (likewhoa) has been working on getting the 10.0 LiveDVD
images in shape for the Gentoo 10th year anniversary release. We need
some assistance in terms of LiveDVD testers, user suggestions for new
packages software testers since there will be over 100+ new
Maybe some Gentoo/GNOME Gentoo/KDE Gentoo/otherDEorWM
wallpapers/logos/icons? I have some Gentoo/KDE wallpapers and logos that
could be used. Or do we prefer strictly Gentoo anniversary artwork?
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.orgwrote:
Fernando V Orocu
Sebastian Pipping wrote:
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Uhm, I just discovered that there are conflicts with portage too. That
is not good. After I added pure-funtoo, it messed up my emerge -u world
(stuff like wanting to upgrade to sys-apps/baselayout-2.1.5).
Hopefully fixed
On 08/22/2009 05:56 PM, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
Sebastian Pipping wrote:
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Uhm, I just discovered that there are conflicts with portage too. That
is not good. After I added pure-funtoo, it messed up my emerge -u world
(stuff like wanting to upgrade to
On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 18:16 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 08/22/2009 05:46 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
[...]
Below are a few of the goals for the the LiveDVD release.
1. Supply both 32/64bit stable kernels
2. Enable HybridISO for the images
3. KDE/GNOME Desktop Environment
4.
On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 17:54 +0300, Theo Chatzimichos wrote:
Maybe some Gentoo/GNOME Gentoo/KDE Gentoo/otherDEorWM
wallpapers/logos/icons? I have some Gentoo/KDE wallpapers and logos
that could be used. Or do we prefer strictly Gentoo anniversary
artwork?
Please link to your artwork, I like to
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
I use overlays for packages I can't get through portage. If they
conflict, I don't use them.
Why do you apply such a general rule?
For instance I have been using dev-util/diffuse from the zugaina
overlay until a newer version went into the gentoo tree.
Portage tells
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Samuli Suominenssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
We are looking for constructive feedback and ideas from both the
developer community and user community. We want this 10th year
anniversary release DVD to reflect our accomplishments over the year and
your feedback is
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
(so that smoltGui can actually be
used at all since it doesn't take a --server parameter.)
Good catch. Just opened a new task for it here:
http://soc.gentooexperimental.org/issues/show/67
Before submission you can view all the data you submit.
Near the bottom
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
And I was under the impression that pure-funtoo
falls under this category: providing packages that don't exist in portage.
If you want to you can adjust funtoo-ripper to do just that on your
local machine. All you have to do is adjust the
EbuildTree._minus
Samuli Suominen wrote:
2. Enable HybridISO for the images
What's this? Explain!
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On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 09:52 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote:
Samuli Suominen wrote:
2. Enable HybridISO for the images
What's this? Explain!
Starting in version 3.72, ISOLINUX supports a hybrid mode which can be
booted from either CD-ROM or from a device which BIOS considers a hard
disk or
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:54:22 +0100
AllenJB gentoo-li...@allenjb.me.uk wrote:
Could there be room for fast track EAPI's to be considered on some
occasions - eg. in this case an EAPI-2.1 which is simply EAPI-2 with
the package.* as directory in profiles feature included?
It's a possibility,
# Hans de Graaff gra...@gentoo.org (22 Aug 2009)
# ruby-amazon uses the obsolete v3 protocol which has been shut
# down by Amazon on 2008-03-31, and upstream indicates that they
# will not continue development on it.
dev-ruby/ruby-amazon
Given that it no longer works I'll remove it in 30 days.
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From: Samuli Suominen [mailto:ssuomi...@gentoo.org]
Sent: August 22, 2009 10:47 AM
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev] New 10.0 LiveDVD release enhancements
Fernando V Orocu (likewhoa) has been working on getting the 10.0 LiveDVD
images in shape for
2009-08-22 21:39:47 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a):
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:54:22 +0100
AllenJB gentoo-li...@allenjb.me.uk wrote:
Could there be room for fast track EAPI's to be considered on some
occasions - eg. in this case an EAPI-2.1 which is simply EAPI-2 with
the package.* as directory in
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 22:22:54 +0200
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfre...@gentoo.org wrote:
Another possibly nicer option would be to add the feature into EAPI
3. However, if we're considering this, we'd have to be absolutely
totally clear that this isn't a call to open up EAPI 3 for
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:32:33 -0400
Andrew D Kirch trel...@trelane.net wrote:
Ryan Hill wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:29:12 -0700
Chip Parker infowo...@gmail.com wrote:
If you were building a house, and the blueprints had been signed off
on calling for 1 meter high doors, but the
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On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 08:39:47PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
We also need to consider whether people even want it done exactly the
way Portage does it now. Some developers have expressed a preference
for a package.mask.d of some kind instead.
# Hans de Graaff gra...@gentoo.org (22 Aug 2009)
# cgi_multipart_eof_fix is used to fix ruby versions up to 1.8.5.
# We no longer ship these versions, and all versions in the tree
# are unaffected, so this will be removed in 30 days.
dev-ruby/cgi_multipart_eof_fix
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Chip Parker infowo...@gmail.com wrote:
* When loading profiles '/etc/make.profile' for repository 'gentoo':
/etc/make.profile is user configuration, and beyond the scope of PMS.
Additionally, I plan to show very soon that PMS is incorrect in its
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Ciaran
McCreeshciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:29:12 -0700
Chip Parker infowo...@gmail.com wrote:
If this feature, which HAD been documented (in bugzilla and
commitlogs) prior to the first RFC for PMS
As I've already explained to
# Hans de Graaff gra...@gentoo.org (22 Aug 2009)
# devel-logger is now bundled with ruby 1.8. The standalone version
# is only suited for ruby 1.6, which has gone from our tree a long
# time ago. devel-logger will follow in 30 days.
dev-ruby/devel-logger
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On Saturday 22 August 2009 10:19:00 Samuli Suominen wrote:
Mounir Lamouri wrote:
No. I only want the .so.62 for binary apps, thus the ebuild won't
install anything but the shared libs
You wrote a header was now private so it will probably make a lot of
ebuilds incompatible with 7.0.
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Ciaran
McCreeshciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:47:44 -0700
Chip Parker infowo...@gmail.com wrote:
* When loading profiles '/etc/make.profile' for repository 'gentoo':
/etc/make.profile is user configuration, and beyond the scope
On Sunday 23 August 2009 01:26:24 Chip Parker wrote:
So, Ciaran, if your personal reference implementation of PMS fails
miserably when using this methodology, your argument that I won't be
or am not affected by your attempt at changing portage is invalid.
If you'd like to test for yourself,
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:26:24 -0700
Chip Parker infowo...@gmail.com wrote:
Since you have a habit of ignoring relevant bits of technical
opposition to some of your more insane schemes, I'll cite *again* the
relevant portion.
I showed you the relevant portion. /etc/make.profile means it is user
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 5:32 PM, David Levertonlevert...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Sunday 23 August 2009 01:26:24 Chip Parker wrote:
So, Ciaran, if your personal reference implementation of PMS fails
miserably when using this methodology, your argument that I won't be
or am not affected by your
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:10:36 -0700
Chip Parker infowo...@gmail.com wrote:
What you proposed in the bug you filed would specifically break how I
do things, without replacing it with an equal or better solution.
No it wouldn't. It would have no effect whatsoever on how you do things.
--
Ciaran
On Sunday 23 August 2009 02:10:36 Chip Parker wrote:
They're the same thing. It doesn't matter if the profiles directory is
in located in /tmp or in /usr/local/portage, the behavior of paludis
*still* doesn't support the feature that these profiles depend on and
portage still *HAS* since
2009-08-23 02:34:08 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a):
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:26:24 -0700
Chip Parker infowo...@gmail.com wrote:
Since you have a habit of ignoring relevant bits of technical
opposition to some of your more insane schemes, I'll cite *again* the
relevant portion.
I showed you
2009-08-22 01:43:54 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a):
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:39:41 +0200
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfre...@gentoo.org wrote:
There was a clarification of the wording after it became clear
that there was room to misinterpret the intent of the original
wording,
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