Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-apps/iproute2: ChangeLog iproute2-2.6.24.20080108.ebuild

2008-03-31 Thread Peter Volkov
В Пнд, 31/03/2008 в 06:21 +, Duncan пишет: > Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sun, 30 Mar > 2008 20:39:14 -0400: > > > there is no package-manager specificness here. it's already completely > > doable from a user perspective, just having it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-04 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 03/04/2008 в 18:56 +0300, Petteri Räty пишет: > >> Petteri Räty wrote: > >> Defining required amount of activity for ebuild devs. I would like us to > >> raise the required amount of activity for ebuild devs. > I checked the current slacker script and it checks for having at least > one c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Putting edac and ipmi (and other server-related) packages in a herd

2008-04-21 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 20/04/2008 в 20:02 +0200, Tiziano Müller пишет: > What do you think of putting edac and ipmi stuff (and maybe other > server-related monitoring/controlling stuff) into the sysadmin herd? > > Alternative: Create a new herd (name?) for such tools. Actually this thread follows discussion in b

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: qemu -> add gcc-3.x dependency

2008-05-05 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 04/05/2008 в 21:48 +0200, Enrico Weigelt пишет: > I'm just installing qemu, which requires gcc-3.x for building. > The current breaks are very ugly, IMHO. > > So I'm proposing to add the old gcc-3.x as depedency to qemu, > at least as long as it doesn't build w/ newer gcc. > > What do y

Re: [gentoo-dev] FRC: debtools herd creation

2008-05-17 Thread Peter Volkov
В Птн, 16/05/2008 в 11:19 -0500, Yuri Vasilevski пишет: > I'll be adding things like debhelper, lintian and a little > bit later things like apt, aptitude, cdebootstrap, debian-live and > some more. If you ever will need lockdev ebuild, don't waste your time. Take it here: http://overlays.gentoo.

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: package.mask

2008-05-18 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 18/05/2008 в 15:14 +, Samuli Suominen (drac) пишет: > drac08/05/18 15:14:30 > > Modified: package.mask > Log: > dxr3player removed > > Revision ChangesPath > 1.8634 profiles/package.mask Could you add ChangeLog entries for thing like this,

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: package.mask

2008-05-29 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 29/05/2008 в 15:42 +, Raul Porcel (armin76) пишет: > armin76 08/05/29 15:42:29 > > Modified: package.mask > Log: > P.mask net-dns/resolvconfig-gentoo as per bug #219270 > > Revision ChangesPath > 1.8663 profiles/package.mask Whenever you modif

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?

2008-05-29 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 29/05/2008 в 11:02 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò пишет: > I'm afraid that it will turn, for complex libraries like libexpat and > users not using --as-needed, the message telling you the program cannot > be started with subtle crashes for symbol collision. Is there any reason why --as-

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: --as-needed to default LDFLAGS (Was: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?)

2008-05-30 Thread Peter Volkov
В Птн, 30/05/2008 в 20:28 -0700, Brian Harring пишет: > Either way, basically it's coming down to if gentoo wants to follow > the definition of 'academic' right, or 'pragmatic' right. Exempting > ciaran, vote seems to be pragmatic. Well, although I've asked about problems with having --as-needed

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: use.local.desc

2008-06-09 Thread Peter Volkov
Hello, Markus. В Вск, 08/06/2008 в 19:28 +, Markus Ullmann (jokey) пишет: > jokey 08/06/08 19:28:19 > > Modified: use.local.desc > Log: > Rename webkitgtk to webkit-gtk > > Revision ChangesPath > 1.3576 profiles/use.local.desc  Whenever you modify

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: package.mask

2008-06-10 Thread Peter Volkov
Hello Luis. В Пнд, 09/06/2008 в 18:12 +, Luis F. Araujo (araujo) пишет: > araujo 08/06/09 18:12:09 > > Modified: package.mask > Log: > Saving Squeak. Solving bugs #163724 , #196984 > > Revision ChangesPath > 1.8705 profiles/package.mask Whenever y

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 55 (why use filename extension?)

2008-06-11 Thread Peter Volkov
If you need eapi in file name what are the technical reasons of putting it into file name extension? Why don't you suggest better ebuild name like: pkg-ver-eapi.ebuild or pkg-eapi-ver.ebuild ? I remember last time I've asked this genone told me that this is not backward compatible. Ok, it's not,

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 55 (why use filename extension?)

2008-06-11 Thread Peter Volkov
В Срд, 11/06/2008 в 08:34 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh пишет: > On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:25:50 +0400 > Peter Volkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you need eapi in file name what are the technical reasons of > > putting it into file name extension? Why don't you sugges

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Default blank lines for error, elog, einfo, etc

2008-06-15 Thread Peter Volkov
В Срд, 11/06/2008 в 19:45 -0400, Jim Ramsay пишет: > Vlastimil Babka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I would prefer something that > > doesn't add extra lines to ebuild. > > I think I would disagree with you here. I think that having a special > 'eblank' or 'eseparator' command is much more re

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-15 Thread Peter Volkov
В Сбт, 14/06/2008 в 19:28 +0200, Luca Barbato пишет: > I don't see disadvantages, all I wanted is a simple way to archive this: > [# emaint -r ffmpeg ... # emerge ffmpeg -L ... egen ... skipped most of stuff] Your example shows that .live ebuilds "fix" different issue. What you are suggesting are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Default blank lines for error, elog, einfo, etc

2008-06-15 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 15/06/2008 в 13:19 +0200, Benedikt Morbach пишет: > > But speaking about names of options - -A and -B are easier to > remember > > as -A stands for above and -B for below and grep users already knew > > that. > > for grep -A means after and -B before ;) True. And still, one day I learn thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Agenda [WAS: One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June]

2008-06-15 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 12/06/2008 в 09:36 +0200, Markus Ullmann пишет: > The PMS maintainers were withholding information on compatibility > issues they've seen. As such we can't be sure this will pop up again > in the future and so I strongly suggest dismissing this as something > official for gentoo. Dismissing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Webapp with plugins

2008-06-15 Thread Peter Volkov
В Сбт, 14/06/2008 в 18:39 +0200, Mario Fetka пишет: > I stumble across a nice problem: > > At the moment i am creating the ebuilds for the Mandriva Management Console > (http://mds.mandriva.org). > > the web Interface is php based so the webapp eclass would be the best way > but know the show s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Agenda [WAS: One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June]

2008-06-15 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 15/06/2008 в 15:50 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh пишет: > On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:42:28 +0400 > Peter Volkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > By formalizing I mean the following: call for and form PMS team. Team > > must represent portage developers and could paludis and pkgc

Re: [gentoo-dev] extending existing EAPI semantics

2008-06-19 Thread Peter Volkov
В Втр, 10/06/2008 в 21:10 -0700, Brian Harring пишет: > So... someone other then ciaran have a comment? >From ebuild developer point of view there is no difference if eapi is a variable of a function call. If changing eapi to a function call makes sourcing of ebuilds more sane, then it's good to h

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] GLEP Purpose and Guidelines

2008-06-19 Thread Peter Volkov
В Втр, 17/06/2008 в 09:48 +0200, Tiziano Müller пишет: > http://dev.gentoo.org/~dev-zero/glep/glep-glep.txt Your GLEP describes only two possible types: Technical and Organizational. At the same time type of your GLEP is informational. How this could be? What happens with informational GLEPs? W

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: package.mask

2008-06-20 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 19/06/2008 в 21:03 +, Michael Sterrett (mr_bones_) пишет: > mr_bones_08/06/19 21:03:29 > > Modified: package.mask > Log: > mask =games-kids/gcompris-8.4.5 until > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=225883 is fixed up. > > Revision ChangesPath > 1.8740

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: package.mask

2008-06-22 Thread Peter Volkov
В Сбт, 21/06/2008 в 10:56 +0200, Albert Zeyer пишет: > Perhaps install a script which automatically takes the CVS comment when > some of these files is changed and adds this comment automatically to > the ChangeLog? Some days ago Diego (flameeyes) suggested to write script which will abort commit

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-2 - Let's get it started

2008-06-22 Thread Peter Volkov
В Срд, 11/06/2008 в 07:53 +0200, Luca Barbato пишет: > Getting the build time from 30minutes to an hour or more? Actually I don't understand this concern. If you bother about time tests take don't build package from sources - use binary packages. If you build program by yourself - run testsuite t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Merging or overwriting KEYWORDS from eclass

2008-06-24 Thread Peter Volkov
В Втр, 24/06/2008 в 01:53 +0200, Robert Buchholz пишет: > I've stumbled upon an inconsitency between package managers the other > day [1], which was due to both an ebuild and an eclass defining > inconsisting KEYWORDS. But do we allow KEYWORDS in eclasses? Why? Each package should be tested inde

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Installation of static libraries, USE=static-libs proposal

2008-07-20 Thread Peter Volkov
В Втр, 01/07/2008 в 05:05 +0300, Mart Raudsepp пишет: > Over a year or two ago, it was communicated that it supposedly a policy > that USE=static Well, I don't have web-reference at hand now, but there was a thread in gentoo-dev with the subject: "Say no to static libraries!". Summarizing some ide

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 10 July 2008

2008-07-20 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 13/07/2008 в 23:52 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh пишет: > Which part of the 'Problem' section in the GLEP didn't you understand? > Do you seriously consider not being able to add or change global scope > functions in future EAPIs to be a non-issue, or were you ignoring those > two bullet points? I

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: auto-detection of unpack dependencies

2008-07-20 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 17/07/2008 в 04:51 +0200, Marius Mauch пишет: > At dev.gentoo.org/~genone/unpack.eclass is the draft for an eclass > to implement this feature. Marius, although it's possible to do this things in eclass why is eclass better? As I see portage's unpack() already has extension <-> "program t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Jeeves IRC replacement now alive - Willikins

2008-08-12 Thread Peter Volkov
В Срд, 06/08/2008 в 14:18 -0700, Robin H. Johnson пишет: > Getting the bot out there > - > If you would like to have the new bot in your #gentoo-* channel, would > each channel founder/leader please respond to this thread, stating the > channel name, and that they are the co

[gentoo-dev] media-fonts/droid licensing: should fonts include Apache license in tarball?

2008-08-19 Thread Peter Volkov
Hello. There are droid fonts package in the tree. Author states that they are apache licensed [1] (supposedly similar to google's android sdk) but license itself is not included in the package (only .ttf files are there). Should we RESTRICT="mirror" in such case or it's safe to drop such restricti

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Add support for package.keywords in profiles?

2008-08-25 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 17/08/2008 в 17:24 -0700, Zac Medico пишет: > At least a few people have expressed a desire to have support for a > package.keywords file in the profiles [1] as a means to add or > subtract any number values to or from the KEYWORDS that apply to a > given ebuild. It's good feature for overl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [RFC] What features should be included in EAPI 2?

2008-09-01 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 21/08/2008 в 19:26 -0700, Alec Warner пишет: > src_prepare is a logically distinct action (maybe if we called it > src_patch it would be clearer?) We are not only patching sources there but modify them by other means too (like sed or find .. rm \{\};). So src_prepare is the name which bette

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] PROPERTIES=live (instead of PROPERTIES=live-sources or RESTRICT=live)

2008-09-01 Thread Peter Volkov
В Сбт, 23/08/2008 в 13:39 -0700, Zac Medico пишет: > Please consider a PROPERTIES=live value that, when set in an ebuild, > will serve to indicate that the ebuild will use some form of "live" > source code that may vary each time that the package is installed. Does this (and previous similar threa

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Add support for package.keywords in profiles?

2008-09-01 Thread Peter Volkov
В Пнд, 25/08/2008 в 11:40 -0700, Zac Medico пишет: > Peter Volkov wrote: > > It's good feature for overlays, but I think we should avoid this in > > portage tree as having same information in two places can be avoided in > > this case: it's better and not so hard t

[gentoo-dev] global USE flag overrides in metadata.xml (bug 235708)

2008-09-02 Thread Peter Volkov
Hello. Is it allowed (good idea) to override global USE flags in metadata.xml? GLEP 56 in Motivation part give us such examples and media-libs/xine-lib already uses this possibility but before GLEP 56 was implemented having USE flag both in local.use.desc and use.desc was not allowed. We already

Re: [gentoo-dev] FHS compliant KDE install and multi-version support

2008-09-07 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 07/09/2008 в 02:05 +, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto пишет: > Our first attempt was to use a multislot use flag[1]. According to that > flag, we would set the SLOT and the PREFIX for the install. That has the > a very important problem - it breaks the invariancy of the SLOT and as > thus bee

Re: [gentoo-dev] FHS compliant KDE install and multi-version support

2008-09-08 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 07/09/2008 в 15:34 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh пишет: > On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 17:24:55 +0400 > Peter Volkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In any case as FHS and /usr/kde/ installations should set > > differently SLOT seems that new portage feature is required... May be

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-2 do* functions die

2008-09-09 Thread Peter Volkov
В Пнд, 08/09/2008 в 23:34 +, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto пишет: > So we're talking about adding the following to EAPI-2: While it's not too late. Can we make dobin, doman and other do* functions finally die in EAPI=2? I've reviewed discussions on -dev [1],[2] and bug 138792 [3] and seems that t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Usage of econf with an additional || die

2008-09-29 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 28/09/2008 в 20:24 +0200, Thomas Sachau пишет: > I see many ebuild that still use "econf || die", also econf should die by > itself. Are there any > specific reasons for this? Some cases where econf does not die also it fails? > Or some other reason > for this? This || die is redundant. P

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects without a homepage, and valid contents of HOMEPAGE (per bug 239268)

2008-10-11 Thread Peter Volkov
В Пнд, 06/10/2008 в 15:59 +0200, Robert Buchholz пишет: > On Sunday 05 October 2008, Thilo Bangert wrote: > > HOMEPAGE="http://this-package-has-no-homepage.gentoo.org/"; > > Why not use our package site for this, i.e. > HOMEPAGE="http://packages.gentoo.org/package/${CAT}/${PN}"; This is not homep

Re: [gentoo-dev] System packages in (R)DEPEND?

2008-10-14 Thread Peter Volkov
В Пнд, 13/10/2008 в 14:34 -0500, Jeremy Olexa пишет: > On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Thomas Sachau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Should we depend on all system packages? Should we depend on some packages, > > because they could be > > removed? If yes, which ones? Or should we leave the system

Re: [gentoo-dev] [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-15 Thread Peter Volkov
В Срд, 15/10/2008 в 20:51 +0100, Steve Long пишет: > >> for ((i=0;i<10;i++)); do echo /usr/share/doc/${P}/examples > > >> /dev/null; > > > >> real 11.25 > > > >> real 9.24 > > > > So that's what, on the order of 20 microseconds faster for each iteration? > > > Or ~18%. (You shouldn't use the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Add RESTRICT="distcc" capability

2008-11-03 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 02/11/2008 в 12:11 -0700, Gordon Malm пишет: > You can cry "abuse" all you want. You FAIL to offer any alternatives or > solutions. I'll ask again, how do you detect that you are compiling code > destined to be run in-kernel from within gcc without checking for the > __KERNEL__ macro?

Re: [gentoo-dev] DEFAULT_* proposal

2008-11-09 Thread Peter Volkov
В Сбт, 08/11/2008 в 17:20 -0500, Thomas Anderson пишет: > This is a reposting of a call for discussion on DEFAULT_* variables. > The original discussion was at [1]. How does this proposal answers concerns raised during last discussion? I did my best and reread all the discussions and both proposa

Re: [gentoo-dev] DEFAULT_* proposal

2008-11-09 Thread Peter Volkov
Well for myself I found compromise. Although in both proposals as I see you've omitted part where you'll discuss how you are going to implement this feature, implementing this feature as eclass addresses most of my concerns, since: 1. ebuild's syntax does not change 2. people will have to inherit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-11 Thread Peter Volkov
Why it's so hard not to delete ebuilds from the tree? Also it was already discussed that if maintainer wishes he/she could drop some keywords from old ebuild, e.g. if you have more recent version of package stabilized on arch, just drop arch keyword from the old ebuild. В Пнд, 10/11/2008 в 20:21

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grab

2008-11-17 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 16/11/2008 в 21:13 +0100, Gilles Dartiguelongue пишет: > here is a list of packages gnome herd would like to get rid of since > no-one seem to take care of them and users are not so verbose about it > either: > > * app-text/ggv https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=223427 Upstream there

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Remember: workarounds don't warrant RESO FIXED!

2008-11-17 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 16/11/2008 в 15:33 -0600, Ryan Hill пишет: > > > - FEATURES=test failures; > And what we are supposed to do if upstream states that tests are not supposed to be ran on users systems and exists for package development only? Fo

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-util/netbeans: ChangeLog netbeans-6.5-r1.ebuild netbeans-6.5.ebuild

2008-11-22 Thread Peter Volkov
В Сбт, 22/11/2008 в 18:11 +, Miroslav Sulc (fordfrog) пишет: > fordfrog08/11/22 18:11:25 > Added:netbeans-6.5-r1.ebuild > Log: netbeans compiles fine even with JDK 1.6 so I dropped the restriction > on JDK, also commons-fileupload linking fixed > Index: netbeans-6.5-r1

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Moving HOMEPAGE out of ebuilds for the future

2008-11-30 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 30/11/2008 в 14:50 +0100, Tobias Scherbaum пишет: > In most (nearly all?) cases a HOMEPAGE change does also affect older versions. > Does someone have an example where older versions stay at an old homepage > and newer versions moved to a new homepage? Yes. This is quite a common case when

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Moving HOMEPAGE out of ebuilds for the future

2008-11-30 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 30/11/2008 в 16:10 +0100, Santiago M. Mola пишет: > per-package eclasses [1]. > That way, it would be easy to avoid duplication of not only HOMEPAGE but > also SRC_URI, LICENSE, or any other part of an ebuild. Having per-package eclasses (PPE) just to set common HOMEPAGE is definitely overk

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Moving HOMEPAGE out of ebuilds for the future

2008-11-30 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 30/11/2008 в 17:09 +0200, Serkan Kaba пишет: > Peter Volkov yazmış: > > Also sometimes it's useful to have different HOMEPAGE for different > > versions. > > > > And in general, Diego. What are you trying to improve with this change? > > The ori

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Saving package emerge output (einfo, elog, ewarn, etc.) somewhere official

2008-11-30 Thread Peter Volkov
Seems that we already have everything you dreamed about: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3&chap=1#doc_chap4 Take a look at PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM. It even can send that messages by mail :) HTH, -- Peter. В Вск, 30/11/2008 в 09:25 -0700, Joe Peterson пишет: > Bottom lin

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Moving HOMEPAGE out of ebuilds for the future

2008-11-30 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 30/11/2008 в 16:54 +, Ciaran McCreesh пишет: > On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:50:17 +0300 > Peter Volkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > В Вск, 30/11/2008 в 16:10 +0100, Santiago M. Mola пишет: > > > per-package eclasses [1]. > > > That way, it would be e

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-30 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 30/11/2008 в 16:59 -0600, Ryan Hill пишет: > On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:13:34 -0500 > Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [proposal] > I know it's not directly related to stabilization, but lately people > have been removing the only keyworded package for the mips arch, under > the excus

Re: [gentoo-dev] debug/release builds extensions/clarification proposal

2008-12-01 Thread Peter Volkov
В Пнд, 01/12/2008 в 06:16 +0100, Maciej Mrozowski пишет: > Currently handling debug/release builds is incoherent and misleading to say > the least. We have got in Gentoo: All that parts do their separate and quite a different work so I can't say that it's incoherent (by idea at least). > The dra

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Create a JOBS variable to replace -jX in MAKEOPTS

2008-12-05 Thread Peter Volkov
В Птн, 05/12/2008 в 08:23 +0100, Rémi Cardona пишет: > Le 05/12/2008 05:33, Joe Peterson a écrit : > > How about "PORTAGE_JOBS" to go along with "PORTAGE_OVERLAY", > > "PORTAGE_NICENESS", etc. > > While this part of the thread has a lot of bikeshedding potential, Joe's > name sounds more consiste

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automatic filing of stable requests

2008-12-14 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 14/12/2008 в 05:10 +0200, Petteri Räty пишет: > Now what do people think about extending metadata.xml so that you could > have these bugs filed automatically when there are no open bugs? Is it possible to specify delay when stabilization bug should be opened? Some packages I want to go sta

[gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: gzip-dict

2008-12-16 Thread Peter Volkov
Hello. Some time ago I've modified stardict.eclass and added optional possibility based on 'gzip' USE flag to compress index and dict data files. But I realized too late that I need to document this USE flag somewhere, and since it'll do similar things for all stardict-* dictionaries (heh, more th

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: gzip-dict

2008-12-16 Thread Peter Volkov
В Втр, 16/12/2008 в 19:27 +, Ciaran McCreesh пишет: > What's the point of having this as an option at all? Is it really > something that affects the end user in any way? The reason is that this feature requires additional dependency on app-text/dictd package (to compress dictionary data dictzi

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: gzip-dict

2008-12-19 Thread Peter Volkov
В Срд, 17/12/2008 в 16:34 -0800, Donnie Berkholz пишет: > Is that some huge package that takes an unreasonable amount of time to > build or space to install? Probably in this case it takes reasonable amount of time... > If not, this doesn't seem like a very meaningful choice to me. Well, your

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: gzip-dict

2008-12-19 Thread Peter Volkov
В Птн, 19/12/2008 в 14:45 +, Ciaran McCreesh пишет: > If it reads (and presumably uncompresses) all of them at startup > anyway, what's the point in compressing them at all? It makes size smaller: both index and data files are text files so compression is very effective. All distributions I've

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: gzip-dict

2008-12-19 Thread Peter Volkov
В Птн, 19/12/2008 в 17:06 +, Ciaran McCreesh пишет: > But disk space is cheap. How big are the dictionaries? The vim > dictionaries are around half a meg uncompressed, and if you're looking > to save a meg or two in disk space on the kind of system that includes > dictionaries then you're doing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/memdump: memdump-1.0.1.ebuild ChangeLog

2009-01-06 Thread Peter Volkov
Daniel, answering you in this mail... Yes, probably sometimes we have to discuss basic things in this mailing list but since developers do this basic errors we have to. Technical problems in our portage tree are perfectly valid for this mailing list. В Пнд, 05/01/2009 в 13:55 +0530, Nirbheek Chau

Re: [gentoo-dev] [v4] Planning for automatic assignment computation of bugs

2009-01-06 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 04/01/2009 в 18:57 +0100, Robert Buchholz пишет: > On Sunday 04 January 2009, Mike Auty wrote: > > Jeroen Roovers wrote: > > > The order ("first maintainer as assignee" or "first maintainer/herd > > > as assignee") is open to discussion and I think this is the proper > > > forum to have that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: package.mask

2009-01-12 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 11/01/2009 в 10:31 +0100, Benedikt Böhm пишет: > On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 01:56:52AM +0100, Friedrich Oslage wrote: > > - - you forgot the ChangeLog entry > > `cvs log` is the changelog, i don't see why i should add a changelog entry. There is the same reason as for ChangeLogs for ebuilds.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: package.mask

2009-01-16 Thread Peter Volkov
В Срд, 14/01/2009 в 20:24 -0800, Donnie Berkholz пишет: > On 11:05 Mon 12 Jan , AllenJB wrote: > > In my opinion the cvs commit log and the ChangeLog serve 2 different > > purposes. The cvs log is for developers while the ChangeLog is for > > users. While the cvs log will likely just want t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-misc/anki: anki-0.9.9.5.ebuild metadata.xml ChangeLog

2009-01-16 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 15/01/2009 в 09:12 +0100, Christian Faulhammer пишет: > "Heath Caldwell (hncaldwell)" : > > + > > + Enable support for LaTeX > > + > > You only have to add flags to metadata.xml, that are not in > use.desc... I asked on IRC some time ago and I was to

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclass: go-mono.eclass

2009-01-17 Thread Peter Volkov
Hi Peter. > NO_MONO_DEPEND=( > "dev-lang/mono" > "dev-dotnet/libgdiplus" > "dev-dotnet/gluezilla" > ) Just curious. What are the reasons to use array here? > go-mono_src_install () { > emake -j1 DESTDIR="${D}" install || die "install failed" Is parallel make broken every

Re: [gentoo-dev] RDEPEND definition in docs differ from official PMS specs

2009-01-18 Thread Peter Volkov
Marius Mauch schrieb: > It's strongly recommended to set both explicitly FYI, I've opened bug to add repoman check for this: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=255358 /me also had feeling that it's good idea to rely on implicit RDEPEND and since it's not true, it's better to warn developers

Re: [gentoo-dev] Detecting Baselayout2/openrc - no-symlink profiles leading to breakage

2009-01-18 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 18/01/2009 в 00:52 +0100, Friedrich Oslage пишет: > Robin H. Johnson schrieb: > > I'm raising this as an extension of bug 253076, but also because I see > > the potential for danger. > > As a long term solution, can we just consume an inode and have some file > > like /etc/baselayout2? Wha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Detecting Baselayout2/openrc - no-symlink profiles leading to breakage

2009-01-20 Thread Peter Volkov
В Пнд, 19/01/2009 в 17:18 +0100, Santiago M. Mola пишет: > On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Friedrich Oslage > wrote: > > Why not teach /sbin/runscript it's own version? With something like this > > we could also do stuff depending on a specific version of openrc: > > That would be a good solu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Usage of cp -i to prevent overwriting upstream files

2009-01-21 Thread Peter Volkov
В Втр, 20/01/2009 в 21:04 +0200, Petteri Räty пишет: > So do you think: > a) cp -i is fine No, interactivity is bad. > b) this function should be added to eutils > c) keep it restricted to java eclasses I don't remember/know any other cases where this function can be useful. So I think it's bett

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: fox.eclass update

2009-02-09 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 08/02/2009 в 23:06 +0100, Matti Bickel пишет: > +# could probably be lower > +WANT_AUTOCONF="latest" > +WANT_AUTOMAKE="latest" These are defaults. You don't need to specify them. > + eautomake || die "automake error" eautomake dies on its own. You don't need || die here. -- Peter.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives

2009-02-28 Thread Peter Volkov
EAPI inside ebuild is the best solution. If we really have to put it inside filename, keep it out of extension, like 2) b) suggests. -- Peter.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Issues regarding glep-55 (Was: [gentoo-council] Re: Preliminary Meeting-Topics for 12 February 2009)

2009-02-28 Thread Peter Volkov
В Втр, 24/02/2009 в 16:14 +0200, Serkan Kaba пишет: > lucene-contrib eclass in java-experimental [1] sets EAPI to 1 to use > slot deps. And I think that's a valid usage. > > 1: > http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/java/browser/java-experimental/eclass/lucene-contrib.eclass It's better (the only way.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: perl-module.eclass -- review - 2

2009-03-03 Thread Peter Volkov
В Пнд, 02/03/2009 в 13:01 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen пишет: > On Monday 02 March 2009 08:24:35 Torsten Veller wrote: > > > Could you just use dosed here? > > dosed needs to die. Why? -- Peter. signature.asc Description: Эта часть сообщения подписана цифровой подписью

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages needing manitainer

2009-03-10 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 08/03/2009 в 22:54 +0100, Rémi Cardona пишет: > Le 08/03/2009 21:38, Tomáš Chvátal a écrit : > > net-misc/mDNSResponder > > How about dropping this one in favor of avahi? Or am I missing something > obvious? Are they completely interchangeable? Last time (well, the only time) I built samb

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gems.eclass review

2009-03-14 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 12/03/2009 в 21:02 +0100, Alex Legler пишет: > http://dev.gentoo.org/~a3li/ruby/gems.eclass.txt > http://dev.gentoo.org/~a3li/ruby/gems.eclass.diff You have: EXPORT_FUNCTIONS src_unpack src_prepare src_configure src_compile src_install I'm not sure here. Is it safe to export src_prepare f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tcl/Tk multi-slot testing

2009-03-14 Thread Peter Volkov
В Птн, 13/03/2009 в 19:09 +0100, Federico Ferri пишет: > btw, on a different topic: the number of bugs on tcltk (8.5) has > lowered a bit. > maybe it's time to unmask it and have package maintainers fix the > outdated apps? A number of packages depend on itcl which does not builds with 8.5. It is

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-03-17 Thread Peter Volkov
В Пнд, 16/03/2009 в 20:47 +, Ciaran McCreesh пишет: > * Am I to take it src_test is to remain in its current worthless state? Is it possible in EAPI 3 make src_test failures not fatal? Something like make die() non fatal inside src_test. Package manager if it sees die() inside src_test should

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-www category

2009-04-05 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 05/04/2009 в 09:38 +0200, Ulrich Mueller пишет: > Is the following a reasonable scheme? > > net-www/adobesvg -> www-plugins/adobesvg This one probably should be removed from the tree: http://www.adobe.com/svg/eol.html > net-www/gnash-> www-plugins/g

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-04-06 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 05/04/2009 в 22:41 +0200, Timothy Redaelli пишет: > i think it's better to develop an "emerge --info package" It already exists. But regretfully it does not provide useful output even about the package's USE flags so I suspect it was implemented for different purposes. -- Peter. signat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ideas for a (fast) EAPI=3

2009-04-13 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 09/04/2009 в 15:32 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh пишет: > Please provide a list of packages that use custom configure scripts, > that currently work with econf (including all the weird things it > already passes), that would break with this change and whose ebuilds > are using econf. I have yet to

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-04-28 Thread Peter Volkov
В Срд, 08/04/2009 в 16:36 +0200, Jeroen Roovers пишет: > On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:11:02 +0400 > Peter Volkov wrote: > > В Вск, 05/04/2009 в 22:41 +0200, Timothy Redaelli пишет: > > > i think it's better to develop an "emerge --info package" > > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-28 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 14/05/2009 в 03:32 +0300, Mart Raudsepp пишет: > Project maintainer-wanted > = Mart, I think that it's good idea to create such project but with a different goals. I think currently maintainer-wanted alias is missed by most developers: new packages are assigned there

Re: [gentoo-dev] Detecting Baselayout2/OpenRC from init.d scripts (summary of debate and plans from bug 270646)

2009-06-12 Thread Peter Volkov
В Пнд, 08/06/2009 в 20:54 -0400, Mike Frysinger пишет: > i dont see how that is relevant. we only care about Gentoo here. plus, the > test is: if /sbin/functions.sh exists, it's baselayout-1 (which no one else > outside of Gentoo will be using), otherwise it's openrc. once we toss > baselayou

Re: [gentoo-dev] Detecting Baselayout2/OpenRC from init.d scripts (summary of debate and plans from bug 270646)

2009-06-12 Thread Peter Volkov
they have any problems with this. В Птн, 12/06/2009 в 14:53 +0400, Peter Volkov пишет: > Is there any problem with /etc/openrc-version? I don't think this is necessary any more. -- Peter.

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] net-misc/l7-filter removal

2009-06-16 Thread Peter Volkov
This package is hard masked now finally. Another reference to count: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=274341 В Втр, 28/04/2009 в 17:24 +1000, Daniel Black пишет: > This package relies on disabling of essential package management features > (collision-protection) to achieve installation. It

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] NeoVim and vim-syntax

2017-05-31 Thread Peter Volkov
Hi. On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:32 PM, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote: > Currently, we have a situation, that there are two Vim's: "old" one (vim8) and > NeoVim... Unfortunately, both of them have different runtimedirs... > > ... NeoVim supports Vim's plugins/scripts very well (although I > didn'

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Future of gentoo's stable and unstable trees: what are your thoughts?

2017-07-31 Thread Peter Volkov
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Alec Warner wrote: > > Sorry, to be clear the conclusion I was hoping to draw is that one has 2 > > repos instead of 1. > > > > 1) Rolling. > > 2) Stable. > > > > Rolling is typical ~arch Gentoo. People in r

Re: [gentoo-dev] Open Build Service

2017-11-13 Thread Peter Volkov
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 4:47 AM, Samuel Bernardo < samuelbernardo.m...@gmail.com> wrote: The only feature that would be useful for now is emerge obtaining the > precompiled binary packages to install in containers/VMs from http > rather than nfs[1]. > Samuel, probably I miss something but this sh

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: GnuCash 2.7+ Breaking Change

2018-01-10 Thread Peter Volkov
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 9:31 PM, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: > Title: GnuCash 2.7+ Breaking Change > Aaron, but why do we need this news item? 2.7 version is a development version that is not supposed to be used by end users. As far as I understand this backup is a temporary measure until stable rel

Re: [gentoo-dev] vserver herd is empty

2013-07-24 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вс, 21/07/2013 в 10:23 +0200, Pacho Ramos пишет: > Will remove the herd if nobody joins in a week. I talked to hollow and we think it's worth to remove this herd. Actually only openvz and vserver packages are in this herd and they are maintained completely independently for a long time... I'll

Re: [gentoo-dev] does v8 shared library make sense with current upstream approach?

2013-09-25 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вт, 24/09/2013 в 11:46 -0700, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." пишет: > On 9/22/13 5:24 PM, Peter Stuge wrote: > > "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > >> "compiling with versions of v8 other than what is included is not > >> currently supported." > > .. > >> For now V8 upstream gives no guarantees about API/ABI stab

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-29 Thread Peter Volkov
В Пн, 30/09/2013 в 00:54 +0200, Andreas K. Huettel пишет: > Am Sonntag, 29. September 2013, 23:41:03 schrieb hasufell: > > It seems this happens more frequently these days, so I'd like to > > remind people to check stable reverse deps before stabilizing a > > library, especially when this is a non-

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: converting /etc/mtab to a symlink

2013-10-13 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вс, 13/10/2013 в 14:13 -0700, Matt Turner пишет: > On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 12:32 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > from what I'm seeing, we should look into converting /etc/mtab to a > > symlink to /proc/self/mounts [1]. > Is the issue with NFS user mounts resolved? (Mentioned > https://wiki.gentoo.

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: converting /etc/mtab to a symlink

2013-10-13 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вс, 13/10/2013 в 14:32 -0500, William Hubbs пишет: > from what I'm seeing, we should look into converting /etc/mtab to a > symlink to /proc/self/mounts [1]. > > Are there any remaining concerns about doing this? The only concern I have how this change affects *BSD or prefix? But yet I failed to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-10-23 Thread Peter Volkov
В Сб, 19/10/2013 в 18:12 +0200, Pacho Ramos пишет: > sys-fs/vzquota This is part of openvz. Took this. -- Peter.

[gentoo-dev] /{"",usr/}bin path changed. What is the right solution for scripts?

2007-03-31 Thread Peter Volkov
Hello. Path of some utilities in coreutils-6.7-r1 changed from /usr/bin to /bin and vice versa. This cause some scripts became broken as they relied on the full path to executable. The question is: does there exist best practice on how to avoid this problem in future? Should we set some default PA

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