Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-02-10 Thread Ben de Groot
On 10 February 2013 10:43, Douglas Freed dwfr...@mtu.edu wrote: * all 13.0 profiles have been created and are marked stable the same way as 10.0 was * all 10.0 profiles have been removed from profiles.desc * all 10.0 profiles have been deprecated Suggestion: perhaps a news item should be

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-02-10 Thread Markos Chandras
On Feb 10, 2013 8:32 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: On 10 February 2013 10:43, Douglas Freed dwfr...@mtu.edu wrote: * all 13.0 profiles have been created and are marked stable the same way as 10.0 was * all 10.0 profiles have been removed from profiles.desc * all 10.0

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-02-10 Thread Markos Chandras
On 10 February 2013 14:06, Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013, 14:34:14 schrieb Markos Chandras: new profiles? As a Gentoo user who just got a giant red warning from portage that his active profile was deprecated, I feel like many people are

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-02-10 Thread Patrick Nagel
Hi, On 2013-02-10 22:06, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013, 14:34:14 schrieb Markos Chandras: new profiles? As a Gentoo user who just got a giant red warning from portage that his active profile was deprecated, I feel like many people are going to be confused about this.

News item (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations)

2013-02-10 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013, 15:15:43 schrieb Markos Chandras: I suspect most people are interested in understanding what changed (since deprecation means that the new thing is better than the old one). Moreover, the news item is another way to assure them that everything is not as bad as

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-02-10 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013, 15:59:57 schrieb Patrick Nagel: Actually, if you could add a note that before switching to the new profile, you should update portage if it's old, that would be even more user-friendly: Already done, see separate mail... -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux

Re: News item (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations)

2013-02-10 Thread Ben de Groot
On 10 February 2013 23:02, Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013, 15:15:43 schrieb Markos Chandras: I suspect most people are interested in understanding what changed (since deprecation means that the new thing is better than the old one). Moreover, the

Re: News item (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations)

2013-02-10 Thread Markos Chandras
On 10 February 2013 15:02, Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013, 15:15:43 schrieb Markos Chandras: I suspect most people are interested in understanding what changed (since deprecation means that the new thing is better than the old one). Moreover, the

Re: News item (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations)

2013-02-10 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013, 16:02:55 schrieb Andreas K. Huettel: Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013, 15:15:43 schrieb Markos Chandras: I suspect most people are interested in understanding what changed (since deprecation means that the new thing is better than the old one). Moreover, the news

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-02-10 Thread James Cloos
AKH == Andreas K Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org writes: AKH To be honest I did not really see the necessity since the big red AKH warning exactly tells you what to do (and even which profile to AKH pick, which would be more complicated in a news item). But it doesn't tell one why the change was

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-02-10 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:06:39 -0500 James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com wrote: AKH == Andreas K Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org writes: AKH To be honest I did not really see the necessity since the big red AKH warning exactly tells you what to do (and even which profile to AKH pick, which would be

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-02-10 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Montag, 11. Februar 2013, 00:34:19 schrieb Michał Górny: actually *do* to one's system? Out of curiosity, does portage suggest switching to the new profiles even if it doesn't support its EAPI? Unfortunately, it seems yes. (Feature request?) -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-02-10 Thread Zac Medico
On 02/10/2013 03:34 PM, Michał Górny wrote: On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:06:39 -0500 James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com wrote: AKH == Andreas K Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org writes: AKH To be honest I did not really see the necessity since the big red AKH warning exactly tells you what to do (and even

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-02-10 Thread Zac Medico
On 02/10/2013 03:45 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Am Montag, 11. Februar 2013, 00:34:19 schrieb Michał Górny: actually *do* to one's system? Out of curiosity, does portage suggest switching to the new profiles even if it doesn't support its EAPI? Unfortunately, it seems yes. (Feature

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-02-09 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
For your information, in the default/linux tree * all 13.0 profiles have been created and are marked stable the same way as 10.0 was * all 10.0 profiles have been removed from profiles.desc * all 10.0 profiles have been deprecated IMHO the waiting time of 1 year decided by Council starts now

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-02-09 Thread Douglas Freed
* all 13.0 profiles have been created and are marked stable the same way as 10.0 was * all 10.0 profiles have been removed from profiles.desc * all 10.0 profiles have been deprecated Suggestion: perhaps a news item should be created for the migration to the new profiles? As a Gentoo user who

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-01-28 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:26:38 +0100 Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: Just to keep everyone updated, ... FYI, the new 13.0 profiles are now all available in profiles.desc, for now all with status dev (i.e. repoman includes them only when you request developer profile

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-01-27 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 27-01-2013 a las 00:26 +0100, Andreas K. Huettel escribió: Just to keep everyone updated, ... FYI, the new 13.0 profiles are now all available in profiles.desc, for now all with status dev (i.e. repoman includes them only when you request developer profile checking). This

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-01-27 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/27/2013 03:26 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El dom, 27-01-2013 a las 00:26 +0100, Andreas K. Huettel escribió: Just to keep everyone updated, ... FYI, the new 13.0 profiles are now all available in profiles.desc, for now all with status dev (i.e. repoman includes them only when you request

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-01-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Just to keep everyone updated, ... FYI, the new 13.0 profiles are now all available in profiles.desc, for now all with status dev (i.e. repoman includes them only when you request developer profile checking). This means the procedure below is complete up to and including point 5) now.

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-01-18 Thread Ultrabug
Thanks for your work mate ! On 14/01/2013 21:24, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: [CC'ing this to core so noone can complain afterwards.] Since 48h did not lead to any responses positive or negative, I'll start implementing the procedure as given in the original e-mail (quoted below). As also said

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-01-18 Thread Michael Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/12/2013 09:47 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: 10) add 13 to the selectable Versions in Bugzilla. Not that anybody cares, but 10 and 10.1 are in there. Maybe we could drop these values (dropping the field might need a change in the code) to

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-01-18 Thread Markos Chandras
On 18 January 2013 10:51, Michael Weber x...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/12/2013 09:47 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: 10) add 13 to the selectable Versions in Bugzilla. Not that anybody cares, but 10 and 10.1 are in there. Maybe we could drop

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-01-18 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
FYI, the new 13.0 profiles are now all available in profiles.desc, for now all with status dev (i.e. repoman includes them only when you request developer profile checking). This means the procedure below is complete up to and including point 5) now. Please consider changing your profile

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-01-18 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 21:37:10 +0100 Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: FYI, the new 13.0 profiles are now all available in profiles.desc, for now all with status dev (i.e. repoman includes them only when you request developer profile checking). This means the procedure

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-01-18 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Freitag, 18. Januar 2013, 23:20:50 schrieben Sie: On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 21:37:10 +0100 Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: FYI, the new 13.0 profiles are now all available in profiles.desc, for now all with status dev (i.e. repoman includes them only when you request

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-01-18 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:47:09 +0100 Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: Am Freitag, 18. Januar 2013, 23:20:50 schrieben Sie: On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 21:37:10 +0100 Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: FYI, the new 13.0 profiles are now all available in profiles.desc,

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-01-14 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
[CC'ing this to core so noone can complain afterwards.] Since 48h did not lead to any responses positive or negative, I'll start implementing the procedure as given in the original e-mail (quoted below). As also said below, each arch will get a mail before I touch their profile tree and after

[gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-01-12 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi everyone, since Council has approved the creation of a fresh set of EAPI=5 13.0 profiles, I would like to volunteer for creating them. The proposed procedure is outlined below in detail, and I'd be happy for comments. [If anything below deviates from Council decision, please tell me- not