[gentoo-user] conditional sysctl tweaks?

2019-07-11 Thread Ian Zimmerman
What is the cleanest way to handle the situation when a new sysctl knob is introduced by a kernel release and I want to use it, but I also have older kernels around? I think the error is not fatal so I can simply add it to sysctl.conf, but the message is going to be ugly. -- Please don't Cc: me

[gentoo-user] Re: escape from i3lock

2019-07-11 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-07-10 23:46, artur.tamm...@gmail.com wrote: > #!/bin/bash > setxkbmap -option srvrkeys:none > i3lock -c 003355 -n > setxkbmap -option '' Thanks for the idea! It won't work as is for me because I already use some non-default xkb options. But it is closer than anything that has come up

[gentoo-user] Re: escape from i3lock

2019-07-11 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-07-11 10:43, Adam Carter wrote: > > No, it's my way to run things as root, in general. I distrust su, sudo > > and friends. > > > > su is mature, well understood and the standard way of doing things. If you > had run an extra term in your X session that had been su'd to root, you >

[gentoo-user] Re: escape from i3lock

2019-07-10 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-07-10 20:44, François-Xavier CARTON wrote: > On 7/10/19 7:03 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > Here is my next "low information" question, haha. > > > > I use i3lock which is like Xscreensaver but much much simpler; it plays > > no movies or games, jus

[gentoo-user] Re: escape from i3lock

2019-07-10 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-07-10 15:23, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 10:03:42AM -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > Here is my next "low information" question, haha. > > > > I use i3lock which is like Xscreensaver but much much simpler; it plays > > no mo

[gentoo-user] Firefox key shortcut buglet

2019-07-10 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Alt-Control-R should switch between normal rendering and Reader mode. All the documentation available including the "tooltip" that pops up when I hover my mouse over the Reader icon agrees. And yet, in the File menu, there is an item "Restart (Developer)" with the same shortcut. And when I in

[gentoo-user] escape from i3lock

2019-07-10 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Here is my next "low information" question, haha. I use i3lock which is like Xscreensaver but much much simpler; it plays no movies or games, just blanks the screen with a configured color or image. To unlock it you have to type your password. It bothers me that even when i3lock has locked the

[gentoo-user] Re: Human configurable boot loader, OR useful grub2 documentation

2019-07-09 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-07-05 14:25, Grant Edwards wrote: > -grub.cfg-- > timeout=10 > root=hd0,1 > > menuentry 'vmlinuz-4.19.52-gentoo' { > linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.19.52-gentoo root=/dev/sda1 > } > > menuentry 'vmlinuz-4.14.83-gentoo' { > linux

[gentoo-user] Re: virtual eselect - how to

2019-06-26 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-06-26 14:51, Mick wrote: > > I have installed openblas but 'eselect blas list' doesn't know about > > this. > > I assume it doesn't know about it because there is no eselect module > for blas. There definitely is, I have run across this problem as well. -- Please don't Cc: me

[gentoo-user] Re: query ebuild fields

2019-06-21 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-06-21 11:41, Grant Taylor wrote: > > Is there a command to show the fields like DESCRIPTION and HOMEPAGE > > from an installed ebuild, or is this one of the annoying gaps in the > > framework that must be (and can be) trivially worked around? > > Does equery meta not show what you want?

[gentoo-user] query ebuild fields

2019-06-21 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Is there a command to show the fields like DESCRIPTION and HOMEPAGE from an installed ebuild, or is this one of the annoying gaps in the framework that must be (and can be) trivially worked around? Example: I have installed x11-terms/rxvt-unicode. I don't know what it is (no, really! :-P ) and I

[gentoo-user] Re: Inter-package dependencies.

2019-06-20 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-06-20 13:30, aleiphoenix . wrote: > ewarn "

[gentoo-user] Re: What is the "halt" user for?

2019-06-20 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-06-20 05:07, Philip Webb wrote: > 190619 Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > I'd like to have a quick way to halt my system from the keyboard, > > without relying on obscure key combinations such as Alt-Up. > > Logging in as a special user (with a special password) would be idea

[gentoo-user] Re: What is the "halt" user for?

2019-06-19 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-06-19 15:10, Jack wrote: > Won't "sudo halt" work? I frequently do "sudo reboor" or just > "reboot" from a root shell. (I am also systemd free.) I would prefer to avoid sudo for security reasons (to get root I normally login on an otherwise unused virtual console). But yes, I'm pretty

[gentoo-user] What is the "halt" user for?

2019-06-19 Thread Ian Zimmerman
I'd like to have a quick way to halt my system from the keyboard, without relying on obscure key combinations such as Alt-Up. Logging in as a special user (with a special password) would be ideal. And I saw that a "halt" user already exists, with /sbin/halt as a login shell, so someone must have

[gentoo-user] Re: wpa_supplicant.conf incongruity

2019-06-19 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-06-19 10:32, Mick wrote: > Having read the above and more in the example file, I thought the way > to define a GROUP would be to just add a single directive, e.g.: > > GROUP=users I remember doing just this some time ago and it worked. I think this is a case of the code leaving the

[gentoo-user] Re: Xscreensaver is very slow

2019-06-18 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-06-18 11:54, Philip Webb wrote: > > Does CPU use seem to go way up when xscreensaver starts? > > No. The problem seems to be with the 3-D savers : > Gkrellm shows heavy use of 1 CPU (out of 8 ) at a time when they run. > > > Is glxgears running as it should ? > > I can't find an

[gentoo-user] Gtk font madness

2019-06-18 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Hi fellow gentoo users, long time no see. I run a desktop system with a largish screen (24 in, 96 dpi). No "integrated environment", just xdm and my choice of window manager. I have been annoyed by the "subpixel rendering" of TrueType fonts - the color fringes are 100% intolerable to me, no

[gentoo-user] Re: Xscreensaver is very slow

2019-06-18 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-06-18 05:36, Philip Webb wrote: > Recently, I updated to Xscreensaver 5.42 & now it's very slow : > some savers aren't moving at all. > > Has anyone else experienced this ? Does anyone have a solution ? Does CPU use seem to go way up when xscreensaver starts? Is glxgears running as it

[gentoo-user] Re: ImageMagick-7 security

2018-08-23 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-08-23 09:06, Mick wrote: > * For security reasons, a policy.xml file was installed in > * /etc/ImageMagick-7 which will prevent the usage of the following > * coders by default: > * > * - PS > * - EPS > * - PDF > * - XPS IM spawns ghostscript for

[gentoo-user] Re: chatty dhcpcd, or iproute2?

2018-08-22 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-08-22 10:12, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Does everyone else also see low-level console output (looks like it > > may be from iproute2) when openrc runs dhcpcd? > > Do you have rc_verbose set in either /etc/rc.conf or /etc/conf.d? No: matica!18 ~$ fgrep verbose /etc/rc.conf /etc/conf.d/*

[gentoo-user] chatty dhcpcd, or iproute2?

2018-08-21 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Does everyone else also see low-level console output (looks like it may be from iproute2) when openrc runs dhcpcd? I see that /etc/init.d/dhcpcd already has a line command_args=-q so trying to stuff it somewhere won't help. I know this is superficial and all, but I'd prefer not to see those

[gentoo-user] OT: latest longterm kernel.org patches are unsigned

2018-08-17 Thread Ian Zimmerman
If you browse this URL: https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/ you'll see that for each 4.14 patch up to 4.14.58 there is a cooresponding GPG signature file: patch-4.14.58.sign 25-Jul-2018 09:28 833 patch-4.14.58.xz 25-Jul-2018 09:28 1M etc. But starting with 4.14.59, there are no

[gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Gentoo fouls up mail transport agent.

2018-07-21 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-07-21 23:04, Grant Edwards wrote: > Manually installing things in /usr/bin or /usr/sbin will often cause > problems because Portage assumes that it controls those directories. > > So don't do that: you should manually install things in /usr/local. > > Or, install qmail using portage, so

[gentoo-user] Re: scanner problem : latest

2018-07-19 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-07-19 05:29, Philip Webb wrote: > The Mint version seems to find a file in /usr/share/iscan-data , which > the others don't find, but that file is present in my Gentoo system. I have not looked at the strace log, but this smacks of permissions, and possibly selinux, if you've let that

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: webmail choices, ARGH!

2018-07-17 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-07-17 16:04, R0b0t1 wrote: > Do you have any problems with roundcube? Yes: ahiker!90 exim$ apt-cache show roundcube-core | grep '^Depends' Depends: dbconfig-common, debconf, libapache2-mod-php | php, libmagic1, php-pear (>= 1:1.10.1), php-cli, php-intl, php-json, php-mcrypt,

[gentoo-user] OT: webmail choices, ARGH!

2018-07-17 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Is _every_ fscking webmail package written in php? Why? -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also post the followup to the list or newsgroup. To reply privately _only_ on Usenet and on broken lists which rewrite From, fetch the TXT record for no-use.mooo.com.

[gentoo-user] Re: All Gentoo signing key expired and no way to fix it

2018-07-04 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-07-04 21:40, gevisz wrote: > It is quite strange because, when I used Ubuntu, it had no root > account, and so, everybody was forced to use sudo to get root > privileges. Of course there is a root account. It is just blocked by default from accepting logins. You can simply run "passwd

[gentoo-user] Re: Multilib help

2018-07-04 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-07-04 02:06, Andrew Udvare wrote: > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:AMD64/32-bit_Chroot_Guide > > If most of your apps are 32-bit then you are almost better off running > a native 32-bit system, especially for games. > > You can also use the chroot for building, but then copy the

[gentoo-user] Re: Any utility to forcibly freeze or swap out a specific pid?

2018-07-03 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-07-03 00:32, Walter Dnes wrote: > Actually, minimizing all the spreadsheets and remaining in the same > workspace similarly reduces cpu usage. Why would gnumeric > spreadsheets be using cpu just sitting there, visible or behind > another program? You can get that question answered by

[gentoo-user] Re: Emerge and binary packages

2018-07-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-07-01 11:57, Daniel Frey wrote: > > Do you mind sharing your distcc setup? I could not get it to work in > > the way described in the wiki. > What part were you having problems with? I configured it to compile everything remotely (to just 1 server) because it would be deterministic and

[gentoo-user] Re: Emerge and binary packages

2018-07-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-06-30 10:50, Daniel Frey wrote: > For many, many years I've been using binpkg to help ease the compile > pain on my Intel NUC Celeron-based frontends. I use distcc on one to > compile all my packages and export /usr/portage/packages via nfs. Do you mind sharing your distcc setup? I

[gentoo-user] Re: Ethernet-over-USB confusion

2018-06-26 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-06-26 19:47, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > But I cannot ssh into the SoC even if the IP address is corrected > manually. Usually ssh is not the first thing you try when testing a new network setup. -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also post the followup

[gentoo-user] Re: Slow python execution

2018-06-25 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-06-25 20:37, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > I did some profiling now. > Any idea why there is that difference in call time? Is it the same upstream version of python? You never really stated this in the thread. -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also post the

[gentoo-user] Re: Binary packages for a different amd64 flavor

2018-06-22 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-06-12 14:33, R0b0t1 wrote: > Use crossdev to generate an x86_64-pc-linux-gnu (or x86) toolchain. > You can specify something in place of "pc" to identify the system and > be fairly compliant, or you can invent your own naming and specify the > architecture manually. This will create a

[gentoo-user] emerge --sync, where is the URL configured?

2018-06-20 Thread Ian Zimmerman
I am following the instructions here: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Chroot Got to the emerge --sync step, and it works! But why? There is no $CHROOT/etc/portage/repos.conf, let alone a gentoo.conf file inside it. So how does it know where to sync from? -- Please don't Cc: me privately on

[gentoo-user] Re: default CONFIG_PROTECT behavior

2018-06-19 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-06-19 19:40, Kai Peter wrote: > In general the usage of sdiff is terrible to me. So I did my own > solution. Unfortunately it is not ready to publish it, but if it is > perhaps of interest to you have a look at > http://gentoo.dyndn.es/doku.php/utils:qrtconf. This page describes > mainly

[gentoo-user] Re: default CONFIG_PROTECT behavior

2018-06-19 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-06-18 11:34, Rich Freeman wrote: > Oh, the other tool you'll want to use is etckeeper to manage /etc in a > git repo and auto-commit changes/etc with package manager hooks. That > is a cross-distro tool, and will save your butt if you mess something > up. I already do this, only without

[gentoo-user] Re: default CONFIG_PROTECT behavior

2018-06-17 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-06-17 18:12, Mick wrote: > From the fine manual: > > z Zap (delete) the new config file and continue. So what do you do if the merge of this file is too hard and you want to do it another time? The answer seems to be q (quit) or n (next), but _nothing_ in the documentation says

[gentoo-user] Re: default CONFIG_PROTECT behavior

2018-06-17 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-06-17 12:42, Andrew Udvare wrote: > On 06/17/2018 12:17 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > What happens to files within the scope of CONFIG_PROTECT if I don't > > execute dispatch-conf or any similar thingy? I have found the > > confusion the latter tool generates comp

[gentoo-user] default CONFIG_PROTECT behavior

2018-06-17 Thread Ian Zimmerman
What happens to files within the scope of CONFIG_PROTECT if I don't execute dispatch-conf or any similar thingy? I have found the confusion the latter tool generates completely unsurmountable. What I'd prefer is the debian behavior: the package supplied config file is simply saved under a

[gentoo-user] Re: Latest 4.9 kernels broken?

2018-06-14 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-06-13 20:29, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > 4.9.108 is out with some objtool fixes among other things. See the > change log for details. > https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/ChangeLog-4.9.108 > > Want to give this kernel a try and seen if it fixes the issues you were > having?

[gentoo-user] Re: Binary packages for a different amd64 flavor

2018-06-12 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-06-13 02:57, David Haller wrote: > First of all, I've seen quite a big boost just by using '-O3'! You understand that I'm complaining about _compilation_ times, right? >From my POV, -O3 globally will make the problem much worse. Aside: I do have it on for a few packages where it is

[gentoo-user] Re: Package specific post-emerge hooks?

2018-06-12 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-06-12 22:47, Christoph Böhmwalder wrote: > I was wondering if there was a way to run a shell script anytime a specific > package is updated. Create a /etc/portage/env/${CATEGORY}/${PACKAGE} file. It should be in shell script syntax and contain a definition of the shell function

[gentoo-user] Binary packages for a different amd64 flavor

2018-06-12 Thread Ian Zimmerman
I have had it with compiling stuff from source on my laptop. It is just too slow. So I would like to create binary packages on my desktop and then just tell the laptop to use them. Simple enough, except that the desktop is AMD Phenom, and the laptop is Intel 64 bit Atom. Up to now, each system

[gentoo-user] Re: Different resolutions in startup

2018-06-12 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-06-12 07:33, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > I have something that annoys me somehow when starting the system. +1 > Usually I set the fb resolution in grub with a proper vga command line. > The problem begins afterwards that the resolution gets changed > afterwards to a very poor resolution

[gentoo-user] Re: Latest 4.9 kernels broken?

2018-06-12 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-06-12 09:56, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > Any reason you're trying to load those modules by hand rather then > have them loaded for you automatically? The only one I try to "load by hand" (rather: via conf.d/modules) is fbcon, because IME that is how I actually get a framebuffer console.

[gentoo-user] Re: Latest 4.9 kernels broken?

2018-06-11 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-06-12 08:23, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > Looks like I'd have to build kernel 4.9.107 in an environment > resembling yours to try and reproduce the behavior in question. > What is the version of kmods you have installed on your system? > What's the output of 'emerge --info'?

[gentoo-user] Re: Latest 4.9 kernels broken?

2018-06-11 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-06-09 18:51, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > readelf -h /path/to/module.ko ELF Header: Magic: 7f 45 4c 46 02 01 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Class: ELF64 Data: 2's complement, little endian Version:

[gentoo-user] Re: Latest 4.9 kernels broken?

2018-06-09 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-06-09 14:15, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > I had a look at the source code for kmod-25. If I read it right, dmesg > should have records along the lines of: > kmod-25/libkmod/libkmod-module.c:886: INFO(mod->ctx, "Failed > to insert module '%s': %m\n", path); > > modprobe returns

[gentoo-user] NFS and user IDs

2018-06-08 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Is there _any_ way around the need to keep the user IDs matched on NFS clients and servers? Or, is there any other remote filesystem (other than the one originally made by Microsoft) that avoids that chore? This is the main reason I have mostly stayed away from NFS all these years. Recently

[gentoo-user] Re: Latest 4.9 kernels broken?

2018-06-08 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-06-08 22:38, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 22:30 Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > > On 2018-06-08 22:00, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > > > > > What's the output of: > > > uname -r > > > strings /path/to/your/module.ko | grep verma

[gentoo-user] Re: Latest 4.9 kernels broken?

2018-06-08 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-06-08 22:00, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > What's the output of: > uname -r > strings /path/to/your/module.ko | grep vermagic= Here are the results for 4.9.105 (working): matica!6 ~$ uname -r 4.9.105 matica!7 ~$ strings /lib64/modules/4.9.105/kernel/drivers/video/console/fbcon.ko |

[gentoo-user] Re: Latest 4.9 kernels broken?

2018-06-08 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-06-08 09:22, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > > matica!501 ~# modprobe fbcon > > modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'fbcon': Exec format error > Could this be a multilib issue? Does you kernel have > CONFIG_IA32_EMULATION enabled? > See https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7647744.html.

[gentoo-user] Latest 4.9 kernels broken?

2018-06-07 Thread Ian Zimmerman
I cannot get either 4.9.106 or 4.9.107 to work on my amd64 system at all. It seems some (but not all) modules refuse to load: Script started on 2018-06-07 13:31:28-0700 matica!501 ~# modprobe fbcon modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'fbcon': Exec format error matica!502 ~# ls

[gentoo-user] Re: Weird firefox

2018-06-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-06-03 00:02, Arve Barsnes wrote: > What programs are you making the copy from, and in what way? I have > not had this kind of problem with firefox, but notepadqq's copy/paste > functionality seems to be messed up for me. Thanks for your question, which made me take a closer look and led

[gentoo-user] Re: Weird firefox

2018-06-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-06-02 19:54, Philip Webb wrote: > > I select some text in another program (maybe a valid URL, maybe > > not), copy it to the clipboard. In Firefox, I click in the urlbar > > or I press F6 enough times to get there and I type Control-V. And > > nothing happens. I just tested it with a

[gentoo-user] Re: Weird firefox

2018-06-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-06-02 08:33, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > I select some text in another program (maybe a valid URL, maybe not), > copy it to the clipboard. > > In firefox, I click in the urlbar (or I press F6 enough times to get > there) and I type Control-V. And ... nothing happens.

[gentoo-user] Weird firefox

2018-06-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
I select some text in another program (maybe a valid URL, maybe not), copy it to the clipboard. In firefox, I click in the urlbar (or I press F6 enough times to get there) and I type Control-V. And ... nothing happens. Interestingly going directly to a selected URL by mid-clicking on the tab

[gentoo-user] X upgrade and firefox

2018-05-26 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Since the last Xorg upgrade the week of May 20th, firefox seems to quit (ie. crash) sporadically when I play chess on lichess.org. That leaves me very unhappy :-( There is a log message: [xcb] Unknown sequence number while processing queue [xcb] Most likely this is a multi-threaded client and

[gentoo-user] Re: Console serial terminal/console with command history?

2018-05-22 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-05-22 12:00, Grant Taylor wrote: > You might also want to check out using vim or emacs as they have > terminal emulators built in. They might be able to apply some command > line history / editing (in a round about way). Indeed, if there isn't a prepackaged way the next easiest is

[gentoo-user] Re: Home/End Insert a ~ Instead of Moving Cursor

2018-05-22 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-05-22 08:07, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > On debian not even bash is linked against readline. It probably bundles its own copy. Which of course makes things harder to debug - but hey, it's easier for the developers :P There was a time when this was one of the things debian was religious about

[gentoo-user] Re: Annoying mapping of some keys

2018-05-22 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-05-22 07:01, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > The problem occurs using X or console or ssh. Check what byte sequences those keys in fact emit. Here: matica!2 ~$ echo '^[[7~' | hexdump -C 1b 5b 37 7e 0a|.[7~.| 0005 matica!3 ~$ echo '^[[8~' |

[gentoo-user] Re: Home/End Insert a ~ Instead of Moving Cursor

2018-05-21 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-05-21 21:23, R0b0t1 wrote: > The issue may be screen. If it is, what different thing do I do? tmux seems to be all the rage these days. -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also post the followup to the list or newsgroup. To reply privately _only_ on

[gentoo-user] Re: Annoying mapping of some keys

2018-05-21 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-05-22 09:38, Damo Brisbane wrote: > Under X, xmodmap perhaps? I used to have a few xmodmap tricks in my X initialization scripts, but today I find I have my needs covered by the recommended alternative of xkb settings. -- Please don't Cc:

[gentoo-user] Re: Non-opnerc init scripts

2018-05-21 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-05-21 19:22, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > I use oss4 directly from upstream now. It comes with an legacy init > script that works well with `/etc/init.d/oss start` (however, it has > no status). > > I added it to the "default" runlevel but unfortunately, openrc does > not even try to start it.

[gentoo-user] Re: Globally Disable Prompt Formatting, In All Programs Everywhere For All Time

2018-05-16 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-05-16 16:11, R0b0t1 wrote: > Is the only way to find every program that generates escape sequences > and disable it? What about kernel messages during boot? I was going to suggest setting TERM=dumb in the environment, but ... already the first program I tried (equery) doesn't honor it,

[gentoo-user] Re: Spectre-NG

2018-05-10 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-05-10 14:35, Wol's lists wrote: > > Code may be "security-sensitive" but buggy. Is the compiler writer > > really responsible for guessing what the programmer meant to > > accomplish with buggy code? > > What do you mean by "buggy"? Relying on UB, or not telling the compiler the whole

[gentoo-user] Re: Spectre-NG

2018-05-09 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-05-09 20:04, Wols Lists wrote: > > As mentioned, I wonder why gcc/clang do not yet support this > > horribly slow but spectre-safe option. It can't be that hard to > > implement in the actual code-producing back-end. > > Given the response by the gcc team to security people complaining

[gentoo-user] Re: secure programing language?

2018-05-08 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-05-08 21:41, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > So are there currently any languages (currently in use/supported) > > designed to avoid the problems with C and other languages? > I think Go and Rust would fit the bill. Ocaml, and (if you're married to C-like syntax) its new skin Reason,

[gentoo-user] Re: Suboptimal emerging of python libraries with native code

2018-05-04 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-05-04 08:33, Andrés Becerra Sandoval wrote: > ​​Maybe it is because this bug: > ​ > https://bugs.gentoo.org/614464 It almost certainly is, although the bug seems to say that parallelization wouldn't work for python3.6 either, and the current official ebuild seems to enable it (or least

[gentoo-user] Suboptimal emerging of python libraries with native code

2018-05-03 Thread Ian Zimmerman
I just emerged sci-libs/scipy. I was unpleasantly surprised that the job only loaded one of my cpus most of the time, resulting in a longish wait (15-20 minutes). I investigated a bit. Originally, I had this in make.conf: MAKEOPTS="-j5" Then I had a look at the ebuild. I saw that it inherits

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo VM with VNC

2018-04-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-27 18:39, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > Ah yes, X11 seems to be a new battle field for me in gentoo. While > ~/.xsession was the way to have a custom startup in other distributions, > it is ignored in gentoo, used via startx or wdm. I found something about > ~/.xprofile but that is also not

[gentoo-user] Re: APIC

2018-04-26 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-25 18:15, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > how can I determine, whether I have a 8-bit APIC ... or what else? Why? There was some discussion of this on the list. Some posters said there was a kernel option that made kernels deal better with 16-bit (or wider?) APICs. But, by my reading of

[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel compile error

2018-04-25 Thread Ian Zimmerman
I would try these steps: 1. Download an upstream (not gentoo) 4.9.76 kernel source and unpack it. 2. Take the existing .config (from the failed genkernel attempt) and copy it into the newly unpacked tree. 3. make silentoldconfig 4. make menuconfig just for verification; no changes should be

[gentoo-user] Re: mutt, with USE="gpg", can't open a signed message

2018-04-24 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-24 21:13, Walter Dnes wrote: > "$(use_enable gpg gpgme)" "gpgme" above is _not_ a USE flag. That incantation tells portage to pass "--enable-gpgme" to the upstream package configure script if "gpg" USE flag is set in gentoo. -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and

[gentoo-user] Re: Dependencies and PYTHON_TARGETS

2018-04-23 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-23 08:31, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Why did portage remove my python-3.5? > > Because nothing that depends on it isn't also satisfied by python-3.6? But doesn't the PYTHON_TARGETS with which a package is built create a strict dependency on those pythons? If native code extensions are

[gentoo-user] Re: Dependencies and PYTHON_TARGETS

2018-04-23 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-23 05:54, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > > But do you ever --depclean? Why did portage remove my python-2.5? > > Yes, after every world update. I'm not sure why python-3.5 was removed. Of course I meant python 3.5. Thanks for reading my mind ;-) > Before you set PYTHON_TARGETS in

[gentoo-user] Re: Binaries in /root/bin

2018-04-22 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-22 20:28, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > 1. is net-im/psi-1.3-r1 > 2. is app-admin/pass-1.7.1 > > both packages install their bin into /root/bin. All other packages are > installing correct, just that two packages did it wrong. FWIW I also have pass installed (same version) and it is in the

[gentoo-user] Re: Dependencies and PYTHON_TARGETS

2018-04-22 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-22 15:08, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > > * make sure dev-lang/python:3.6 stays in the world file, even if it > > is not needed by me directly > > No, you shouldn't need any dev-lang/python entries in the world > file. I don't have any in my world file, but still have 2.7 and 3.5 >

[gentoo-user] Dependencies and PYTHON_TARGETS

2018-04-22 Thread Ian Zimmerman
I am still on the 2013 profile, and I therefore have PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 python3_5. The other day I had to install python 3.6 for reasons unrelated to portage or other packages. I thought I would reduce my overall snake footprint by removing 3.5 _if_ it wasn't really necessary anymore. To

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge colors and light background

2018-04-19 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-19 20:57, Grant Edwards wrote: > > It depends on your terminal app. I use (u)rxvt and I remap the > > colors for it globally. Here are the settings (from .Xresources): > > > > *.beNiceToColormap: false > > Rxvt.background: seashell > > Rxvt.color10: green4 > > Rxvt.color11: orange2 >

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge colors and light background

2018-04-19 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-19 08:16, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > I recently start with gentoo due to frustration of the rapidly > degrading quality of debian. Hello, good to meet you again ;-) > Currently I have pretty good feelings about gentoo but there is one > thing that is pretty annoying. > > I use light

[gentoo-user] Re: Is udev-mount still valid?

2018-04-14 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-15 00:10, Floyd Anderson wrote: > > https://very.loosely.org/paste/symlinks-pl > Because argument ROOTDIR is mandatory, the script should do something > when ROOTDIR is not given, e.g. print usage. Maybe ‘-r’ should be also > mandatory or the script should define some useful defaults.

[gentoo-user] Re: Is udev-mount still valid?

2018-04-14 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-13 23:18, Floyd Anderson wrote: ># find /{etc,lib,usr,var} -path /etc/config-archive -prune -o \ >-type l -xtype l -print there is also the app-misc/symlinks package, and my own baby for the same purpose: https://very.loosely.org/paste/symlinks-pl -- Please don't Cc: me

[gentoo-user] Re: Wrong instructions when installing Oracle JRE

2018-04-12 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-11 01:08, R0b0t1 wrote: > Can we stop using Oracle's JVM? An ever recurring question, and of course one that should be asked. What is the alternative? icedtea is the _same_ VM, just built differently. And building it from source requires cups, which I don't want on my system.

[gentoo-user] Wrong instructions when installing Oracle JRE

2018-04-10 Thread Ian Zimmerman
When I do emerge dev-java/oracle-jre-bin, portage quoth: !!! dev-java/oracle-jre-bin-1.8.0.162-r1 has fetch restriction turned on. !!! This probably means that this ebuild's files must be downloaded !!! manually. See the comments in the ebuild for more information. * Fetch failed for

[gentoo-user] Re: Is udev-mount still valid?

2018-04-10 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-10 17:11, Mick wrote: > I had a look at /etc/runlevels and noticed two broken symlinks: > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 Nov 25 2013 tmpfiles.dev -> /etc/init.d/ > tmpfiles.dev > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Oct 26 2012 udev-mount -> /etc/init.d/udev-mount FWIW, I have neither of

[gentoo-user] Re: openvpn rc script dependencies

2018-04-10 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-10 10:55, Christoph Böhmwalder wrote: > I was wondering how the OpenRC dependencies between start scripts > work. openvpn start-up dependencies (and, I imagine, any user space based VPN) are definitely a pain point. One part is the subject of the main thread here ie. what other

[gentoo-user] Recovery mode blank screen

2018-04-08 Thread Ian Zimmerman
For the first time in ages, today I tried booting into the recovery mode. Initially I did it by entering the editor mode in grub and just appending "single" to the regular entry, but when that failed (see below) I enabled the recovery entries in /etc/default/grub, rerun grub-mkconfig and rebooted

[gentoo-user] Re: Mutt database option

2018-04-08 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-08 13:16, Mick wrote: > > And yet - after I am finished reading an email, I am used to returning > > to the message index by pressing 'i'. This no longer works in (Gentoo's > > version of) mutt 1.9.4. Instead one must press 'x'. It's driving me > > crazy. > > Interestingly, my mutt

[gentoo-user] Re: Mutt database option

2018-04-08 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-07 17:12, Floyd Anderson wrote: > But I like the faster development/release cycle, the goal to clean up > the 20 years old code base and some features [1] of NeoMutt, > e.g. Lua-scripting, sidebar; which sometimes find their way into > Mutt. I have no experiences contributing patches

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-04-05 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-04 19:12, Wol's lists wrote: > Different horses, different courses. I believe the indent was dropped > to save a keystroke, so why the double-space is there (requiring an > extra keystroke) I don't know. > > And why use secretarial style when you're typesetting? One is for > letters,

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Hardened vs Kali Linux

2018-04-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-02 21:14, Grant Taylor wrote: > Though I do think that reading the Linux from Scratch book and doing > the install along with the book will likely teach more about Linux (as > it existed at the time) Does that mean LFS is dead? That would be a pity. -- Please don't Cc: me privately

[gentoo-user] Warning: stabilized glibc breaks encryption in some cases

2018-04-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
See bug 637164, including my last comment -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also post the followup to the list or newsgroup. To reply privately _only_ on Usenet and on broken lists which rewrite From, fetch the TXT record for no-use.mooo.com.

[gentoo-user] Re: bash scrip prompt after bootstrap

2018-04-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-02 19:18, Bas Zoutendijk wrote: > That is exactly what I meant to do, and I admit it is rather kludgey. > Because of the single quotes, which are around everything but $HOST, > the double quotes are literally echoed. The child shell will > therefore see the PS1 definition surrounded

[gentoo-user] Re: bash scrip prompt after bootstrap

2018-04-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-02 17:55, Bas Zoutendijk wrote: > What my syntax is doing is to let the $PS1 inside the PS1 definition > be evaluated by the chroot shell. Suppose you run this command with > HOST=eden and ROOT=/mnt/eden: > > echo 'export PS1="(chroot '$HOST') $PS1"; exec $ROOT /bin/bash -i > >

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-04-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-02 08:26, Daniel Frey wrote: > I don't see any extra spaces in Dale's message, you should also > probably check your local configuration. They render fine for me in mutt/neomutt, too. I can only see the strange spaces in my editor (emacs 24) when I start replying to him and quote his

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-04-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-02 03:59, Dale wrote: > That last bit should read can NOT win. Brain didn't quite make it all > the way to keyboard. lol I read it as beautifully subtle sarcasm, so it worked fine as it was. BTW, your mails are full of strange space characters - I didn't investigate if they're some

[gentoo-user] Re: bash scrip prompt after bootstrap

2018-04-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-02 11:29, Bas Zoutendijk wrote: > echo 'export PS1="You have chrooted into '$HOST' from $PS1"; exec \ >

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