Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg-server and my mouse

2009-04-11 Thread Mick
On Friday 10 April 2009, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Fred Elno:
   merge key=input.xkb.layout type=stringfr/merge
   merge key=input.xkb.variant type=string /

 Since yesterday i have

   merge key=input.xkb.layout type=stringde/merge
   merge key=input.xkb.variant type=stringnodeadkeys/merge
   merge key=input.xkb.options type=stringcompose:menu/merge

 but it took a while to find the right syntax. At which place is e.g.
 input.xkb.options mentioned in the documentation?

 Could't find one, so i have guessed from the entry in my xorg.conf. *g*

 - xorg.conf -
 Option  XkbOptionscompose:menu
 ---

What is the meaning of the compose:menu?
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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[gentoo-user] Re: Xorg-server and my mouse

2009-04-11 Thread Hartmut Figge
Mick:
On Friday 10 April 2009, Hartmut Figge wrote:

 - xorg.conf -
 Option  XkbOptionscompose:menu
 ---

What is the meaning of the compose:menu?

Sometimes i need to input special characters like e.g. ç with my
keyboard and need a way to do so. That's what the compose key is for.

To input ç i press the compose key, release it and then , followed by c.
Or é which is a combination of ' and e.

/usr/share/keymaps/include/compose.latin1 contains some of the
possibilities.

So i have need of a compose key. Years ago there was a combination of
AltGr and Shift_Left which could be used but that stopped to work.

So, what key to take? Caps_Lock seemed fine, first, but this caused
trouble in some games under wine in which i needed the original
functionality of Caps_Lock. Hm, i guess it was Gothic 1.

But the Menu_Key, that is the one left of Control_Right, was perfect.

Hartmut




[gentoo-user] Corrupt files or ntfs-3g fs?

2009-04-11 Thread Mick
Hi All,

I have a ntfs partition which I mount with ntfs-3g and fuse.  Some months ago 
I had split a video file which thereafter bzipped:

-?  ? ?? ?? rec1xaa.bz2
-?  ? ?? ?? rec2xaa.bz2
-?  ? ?? ?? rec3xaa.bz2
-?  ? ?? ?? rec4xaa.bz2
-?  ? ?? ?? rec5xaa.bz2
-?  ? ?? ?? rec6xaa.bz2
-?  ? ?? ?? rec7xaa.bz2
-?  ? ?? ?? rec8xaa.bz2
-?  ? ?? ?? rec9xaa.bz2
-?  ? ?? ?? rec00010xaa.bz2

The ??? above show me that something is amiss and the files have been 
corrupted.  I recall deleting them (or trying to) from within MSWindows, but 
I couldn't do that and, of course, blamed MSWindows for it.

Now I am looking at this having booted into Gentoo and I cannot delete them:
=
/mnt/VideoDrive $ rm rec1xaa.bz2

rm: cannot remove `rec1xaa.bz2': No such file or directory
=

shred does not work either:
=
$ shred -v -z -u rec1xaa.bz2 
shred: rec1xaa.bz2: failed to open for writing: No such file or directory
=

This is how it has been mounted:

$ mount | grep Video
/dev/sda9 on /mnt/VideoDrive type fuseblk 
(rw,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096)

Is there an application I could use to remove them and free the space on the 
disk, or should I run chkdisk or fsck first?  I cannot afford to lose the 
remaining data on the disk and I do not have another disk as large to back up 
first.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Corrupt files or ntfs-3g fs?

2009-04-11 Thread Xav'
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:37:35 +0100, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I have a ntfs partition which I mount with ntfs-3g and fuse.  Some months
 ago 
 I had split a video file which thereafter bzipped:
 
 -?  ? ?? ?? rec1xaa.bz2
 -?  ? ?? ?? rec2xaa.bz2
 -?  ? ?? ?? rec3xaa.bz2
 -?  ? ?? ?? rec4xaa.bz2
 -?  ? ?? ?? rec5xaa.bz2
 -?  ? ?? ?? rec6xaa.bz2
 -?  ? ?? ?? rec7xaa.bz2
 -?  ? ?? ?? rec8xaa.bz2
 -?  ? ?? ?? rec9xaa.bz2
 -?  ? ?? ?? rec00010xaa.bz2
 
 The ??? above show me that something is amiss and the files have been 
 corrupted.  I recall deleting them (or trying to) from within MSWindows,
 but 
 I couldn't do that and, of course, blamed MSWindows for it.
 
 Now I am looking at this having booted into Gentoo and I cannot delete
 them:
 =
 /mnt/VideoDrive $ rm rec1xaa.bz2
 
 rm: cannot remove `rec1xaa.bz2': No such file or directory
 =
 
 shred does not work either:
 =
 $ shred -v -z -u rec1xaa.bz2 
 shred: rec1xaa.bz2: failed to open for writing: No such file or
 directory
 =
 
 This is how it has been mounted:
 
 $ mount | grep Video
 /dev/sda9 on /mnt/VideoDrive type fuseblk 
 (rw,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096)
 
 Is there an application I could use to remove them and free the space on
 the 
 disk, or should I run chkdisk or fsck first?  I cannot afford to lose the

 remaining data on the disk and I do not have another disk as large to
back
 up 
 first.

I think that you have to boot into windows and try to run chkdsk to repair
the filesystem.

HTH.

Xav'



Re: [gentoo-user] VNC question

2009-04-11 Thread Konstantinos Agouros
In 20090410172143.71e0c...@coercion mike_kazant...@fraggod.net (Mike 
Kazantsev) writes:

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On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:05:49 + (UTC)
Konstantinos Agouros elw...@agouros.de wrote:

 Any clues are welcome.

I know that it's rather workaround than a solution, but prehaps you
might try one of the other vnc implementations, like tightvnc
(net-misc/tightvnc).
Tightvnc doesn't even connect. Or it connects and then hangs.

Basically I am happy with any X-VNC client that I can use for this.
After I switched to another VNC-Server (for the time) interestingly
enough the MAC-Screenshare VNC Client gave a warning about 'not so
good authentication' so it seems apple might after all have a proprietary
extension in there.

Regards,

Konstantin
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Re: [gentoo-user] Corrupt files or ntfs-3g fs?

2009-04-11 Thread Mick
On Saturday 11 April 2009, Xav' wrote:
 On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:37:35 +0100, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

  Is there an application I could use to remove them and free the space on
  the
  disk, or should I run chkdisk or fsck first?  I cannot afford to lose the
 
  remaining data on the disk and I do not have another disk as large to

 back

  up
  first.

 I think that you have to boot into windows and try to run chkdsk to repair
 the filesystem.

Thanks Xav',

It seems that chkdsk fixed it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg-server and my mouse

2009-04-11 Thread Mick
On Saturday 11 April 2009, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Mick:

 
 What is the meaning of the compose:menu?

 So i have need of a compose key. Years ago there was a combination of
 AltGr and Shift_Left which could be used but that stopped to work.

I see, I should have phrased my question differently:  which is the compose 
key ... I don't have a key that is called compose, but I think that my menu 
key is the one between Right Ctrl key and AltGr.  However, nothing happens 
when I press it.

My corresponding line for an alternative keyboard in the .fdi file is:

   merge key=input.x11_options.XkbOptions 
type=stringgrp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu/merge

So I assume that if you use grp:altgr_shift_toggle you'll get that 
functionality up.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Some hints about evdev versus xorg and your mouse and keyboard

2009-04-11 Thread Mick
On Friday 10 April 2009, walt wrote:

 The big picture first:  The plan is to use evdev *instead* of the
 drivers in xf86-input-keyboard and xf86-input-mouse, 
[snip...]

 In my xorg.conf there is no mention whatever of mice or keyboards,
 and xf86-input-keyboard and xf86-input-mouse have been completely
 deleted from my machine. (xf86-input-evdev is still necessary, of
 course.)

I seem to have both of these installed and following the xorg ebuild post 
install messages I rebuilt them since they showed up when I ran:

# qlist -I -C x11-drivers/
x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev
x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard
x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse
x11-drivers/xf86-input-synaptics
x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati

Are you saying that the above drivers are no longer needed because evdev will 
do everything and do it correctly?

PS.  I also needed to add an entry in 
my /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-xinput-configuration.fdi for the synaptics 
behaviour to be as it was before the xorg upgrade.
-- 
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Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [xorg-server-1.5] managing graphic card

2009-04-11 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
 Mick wrote:
  BTW, the new xorg dri is really slow.

 You need to enable EXA as acceleration type.  And for that, you *need*
 an xorg.conf.

Section Device
  Driver  radeon
  Option  AccelMethod EXA
EndSection

 I believe the default is XAA which is slow.  Also, with that driver,
 it makes more sense to get the latest (~arch) along with ~arch DRI
 kernel modules.  The unstable ones (according to portage) are actually
 way more stable and faster than the stable ones.

I tried EXA but it made no difference.  I'll wait for the ~arch to become 
stable I guess, as it does not bother me.
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[gentoo-user] xorg-server-1.5.3 no mouse [solved]

2009-04-11 Thread Philip Webb
For the record, in case anyone else runs into this,
following the Gentoo Upgrade Guild, I chose course (2) to deal with HAL,
ie I compiled 'USE=-hal emerge xorg-server'.

I encountered  3  problems.
(1) xf86-video-intel-2.6.3-r1 failed to compile
with a message implying lack of a file 'xf86dri.h' :
since I'm using an Nvidia card, not the Intel chip on the mobo,
that seems not to be relevant for my needs.
(2) after rebooting  entering 'startx', I got a 'no screen' error,
which was solved by commenting out the line incl RgbPath in  xorg.conf .
(3) when X finally started, my mouse didn't work: oh no ! --
first, I followed the 3rd course from the Upgrade Guide
 add 'Option AutoAddDevices false' to  xorg.conf
(it shouldn't be needed if you follow course (2) above);
that didn't change anything, so I looked at my handwritten list
of the pkgs I had installed, which I had numbered as usual,
 noticed that 'xf86-input-mouse' was compiled before 'xorg-server':
had the former failed to notice '-hal' used with the latter ? --
so I recompiled the mouse module  now everything is working as it should.

Yet again, I was helped by NOT doing a blanket 'emerge world',
but compiling (groups of) pkgs individually  making a note of what I did.
Also, I could see what was going wrong  fix it much more easily,
as I don't boot straight into X , but to a raw console first.
Finally, it helps (if you use KDE) to enable keypad cursor movements,
tho' I didn't find out how to emulate a mouse click that way.

HTH  comments welcome.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [xorg-server-1.5] managing graphic card

2009-04-11 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:08:50 +0100
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

 I tried EXA but it made no difference.

Prehaps you forgot to setup dri?
If so, try x11-misc/driconf.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [xorg-server-1.5] managing graphic card

2009-04-11 Thread Mick
On Saturday 11 April 2009, Mike Kazantsev wrote:
 On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:08:50 +0100

 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
  I tried EXA but it made no difference.

 Prehaps you forgot to setup dri?
 If so, try x11-misc/driconf.

Thanks Mike, how do you mean set up dri?  It is shown as 'yes' in glxinfo.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Some hints about evdev versus xorg and your mouse and keyboard

2009-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:58:40 -0500, Dale wrote:

 No, I don't have another machine to ssh in.  I wish I did.  It's have a
 working keyboard or hit the reset button/pull the plug.

Did you try the Magic SysRq keys? That's a lot friendlier than cutting
the power.


-- 
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Loose bits sink chips.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Some hints about evdev versus xorg and your mouse and keyboard

2009-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:09:22 -0500, Dale wrote:

  I wonder if magic sysrq would have worked? I don't think I tried it
  when my keyboard became dead.

It should do, because that goes direct to th kernel, and it is only X that
cannot read the keyboard.

 I couldn't find where I wrote those key sequences down so I couldn't try
 that.

There are some strange mnemonics involving elephants, that are harder to
remember than the key sequence. The easy way to remember the full
sequence is BUSIER backwards.

Alt+SysRq+R-E-I-S-U-B


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [xorg-server-1.5] managing graphic card

2009-04-11 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:33:10 +0100
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Mike, how do you mean set up dri?  It is shown as 'yes' in glxinfo.
...
 On Saturday 11 April 2009, Mike Kazantsev wrote:
  If so, try x11-misc/driconf.

Just try this tool, it's GUI, written just for that purpose.
It'll create ~/.drirc file, which was necessary for me (intel igp) to
get x10+ performance gain with OpenGL-enabled games.

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Re: [gentoo-user] kdelibs recompile required but not recognized

2009-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:52:26 -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote:

 If you did install kdelibs, then the Qt version that is picked up by
 this configure is not the same version you used to compile kdelibs.
 The Qt Plugin installed by kdelibs is *ONLY* loadable if it is the
 _same Qt version_, compiled with the _same compiler_ and the same Qt
 configuration settings.

Reinstalling kdelibs alone won't help if Qt was built with an older
compiler. Re-emerge qt.


-- 
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The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody
appreciates how difficult it was.


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Xandros, EEE which partition to chroot

2009-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:22:46 -0700 (PDT), maxim wexler wrote:

 There are four partitions on the SSHD, sda1,2,3,4. sda1 is formatted
 ext2 and is the largest and contains the file system. sda2 is slightly
 smaller, formatted ext3 and also has a file system on it, but with
 fewer files. sda3 is very small, formatted fat32, and is empty. sda4 is
 formatted fat16, and is empty(I think, I wasn't able to mount it).
 
 Why do sda1 and sda2 have virtually the same files on them and why is
 one formatted ext2 and the other ext3?

sda1 and sda2 are combined as a Unionfs filesystem, one contains the base
install and the other is writeable for changes. That's why the restore
boot option is so fast, it just reformats the overlaid filesystem.

There isn't room to install Gentoo alongside Xandros on a 4GB Eee. Either
install Gentoo to an SD card for now or bite the bullet and wipe Xandros
before installation.


-- 
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[gentoo-user] Re: Xorg-server and my mouse

2009-04-11 Thread Hartmut Figge
Mick:

[ merge key=input.xkb.options type=stringcompose:menu/merge ]

I see, I should have phrased my question differently:  which is the compose 
key ...

It is easy to misunderstand. Especially for me with my lack of knowledge
of english. ;)

I don't have a key that is called compose, but I think that my menu 
key is the one between Right Ctrl key and AltGr.

No, i have a pc105 keyboard with two keys between Alt_Right and
Ctrl-Right, not only one. In that case your key is probably rwin and you
should use compose:rwin.

Possible values can be found in /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.lst,
search there for compose.

However, nothing happens when I press it.

Well, if there is no menu key ... *g*

My corresponding line for an alternative keyboard in the .fdi file is:

   merge key=input.x11_options.XkbOptions 
type=stringgrp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu/merge

So I assume that if you use grp:altgr_shift_toggle you'll get that 
functionality up.

If have tried that and got, eh, interesting results. *g*

With some modifications i should be able to restore the previous
behavior, but i'm used to menu now since several years. And: i am lazy.

Hartmut




Re: [gentoo-user] VNC question

2009-04-11 Thread Stroller


On 11 Apr 2009, at 10:13, Konstantinos Agouros wrote:

... the MAC-Screenshare VNC Client gave a warning about 'not so
good authentication' so it seems apple might after all have a  
proprietary

extension in there.


It's worth mentioning that the original GPL, ATT sponsored VNC  
offered no encryption (except perhaps as https in the browser-based  
Java version?). The last I heard was that work had ceased upon it,  
following the termination of ATT sponsorship, but that some of the  
authors had started their own company selling VNC-based solutions.  
Their new products are used by at least one company that sells KVM-IP  
switches, but I believe they are all closed  proprietary. I think  
more than one OSS / 3rd-party VNC project have, as a consequence,  
added encryption, but I don't believe that any of them are  
compatible. :(


It really is a shame, IMO. VNC brought us cross-platform  
screensharing, but without encryption one is reluctant to use it  
outside the LAN.


Stroller.



Re: [gentoo-user] Corrupt files or ntfs-3g fs?

2009-04-11 Thread Stroller


On 11 Apr 2009, at 09:37, Mick wrote:

... I cannot afford to lose the
remaining data on the disk and I do not have another disk as large  
to back up

first.


You're completely stuffed, then. There's nothing you can safely do  
except leave these dodgy files intact.


Is there an application I could use to remove them and free the  
space on the disk, or should I run chkdisk or fsck first?


I think that you have to boot into windows and try to run chkdsk to  
repair

the filesystem.


What he said.

I believe the risk to the remaining data is low, but I believe it is  
present. chkdsk has no more warranty than any other software.


Stroller.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Some hints about evdev versus xorg and your mouse and keyboard

2009-04-11 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:58:40 -0500, Dale wrote:

   
 No, I don't have another machine to ssh in.  I wish I did.  It's have a
 working keyboard or hit the reset button/pull the plug.
 

 Did you try the Magic SysRq keys? That's a lot friendlier than cutting
 the power.


   

I didn't try that.  I have the sequence wrote down somewhere but I can't
find it.  Someone just posted it again tho.  I hope I never have to try it.

Oh, just found out the new gcc won't compile a 2.6.23 kernel.  It spits
out a error and quits.  Nice, real nice.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] which package contains latex stmaryrd.sty

2009-04-11 Thread Stroller


On 10 Apr 2009, at 14:50, Valmor de Almeida wrote:


Stroller wrote:
The sub-packages are not intended to be installed stand-alone -  
they are merely for the convenience of the devs and so that minimal  
work is required of your system to maintain minor updates.


I wonder why this is a required package

*  dev-tex/feynmf
 Latest version available: 1.08-r3
 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
 Size of files: 328 kB
 Homepage: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/feynmf/
 Description:   Combined LaTeX/Metafont package for drawing of  
Feynman diagrams

 License:   GPL-2

or even this

*  dev-tex/latex-beamer
 Latest version available: 3.07
 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
 Size of files: 2,335 kB
 Homepage:  http://latex-beamer.sourceforge.net/
 Description:   LaTeX class for creating presentations using a  
video projector.

 License:   GPL-2 FDL-1.2 LPPL-1.3c

a well designed modular approach should not require these for basic  
functionality.



I think - and please correct me if I'm wrong, but referring to your  
previous post - you have USE=extra set.


You can easily set -extra -whatever just for app-text/texlive in /etc/ 
portage/package.use - once you appreciate it I think you may find  
`flagedit` quicker than `vi` for setting flags on a per-package basis.


But as someone else observed, the files and bloat added by these  
packages will surely be very small indeed - they're probably  
considered a standard part of a LaTeX distribution.


I don't know anything about Feynman diagrams, but you might find  
video projector a little misleading - Beamer is just a package of  
Powerpoint or presentation templates for export to print or pdf.  
When I was at uni the lecturers used this package to format their  
notes for overhead projectors, and printed them on transparency paper.  
Importing the package will AIUI simply result in the document being  
processed in a large font (of a type which is clearly legible at the  
back of the classroom) and bullet-points before each paragraph. You  
may not need this, and you may be able to disable it with USE flags,  
but it's so commonly referred to on the LaTeX newsgroups that I'm sure  
its use is unexceptional and it's really not such an unreasonable  
thing to include as a default.


Stroller.
 
   



[gentoo-user] remove all kde and start again ...

2009-04-11 Thread William Kenworthy
I have got myself into a bind with kde 3.5.10 and 3.5.9 - I would like
to unmerge all kde and then remerge it as 3.5.10.  Currently its taken
me ages to unmerge packages as I have emereg world, which its just
dawned on me is only printing 3 blocking packages at a time - very slow
progress

Its just dawned on me that this is kde-meta - is there a way to just
remove all kde at once?

BillK


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Re: [gentoo-user] remove all kde and start again ...

2009-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:44:01 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:

 Its just dawned on me that this is kde-meta - is there a way to just
 remove all kde at once?

emerge -C kde-meta
emerge --depclean -a


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Re: [gentoo-user] remove all kde and start again ...

2009-04-11 Thread Uwe
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:44:01 +0800
William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 I have got myself into a bind with kde 3.5.10 and 3.5.9 - I would like
 to unmerge all kde and then remerge it as 3.5.10.  Currently its taken
 me ages to unmerge packages as I have emereg world, which its just
 dawned on me is only printing 3 blocking packages at a time - very
 slow progress
 
 Its just dawned on me that this is kde-meta - is there a way to just
 remove all kde at once?
 
 BillK
 
 

Hi

Something like this should help

# equery list kde-base/ | grep 3\.5 | xargs emerge --unmerge --pretend
and then the same for kde-misc
# equery list kde-misc/ | grep 3\.5 | xargs emerge --unmerge --pretend


From here:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde-config.xml


HTH
Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] remove all kde and start again ...

2009-04-11 Thread William Kenworthy

On Sat, 2009-04-11 at 14:04 +0200, Uwe wrote:
 On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:44:01 +0800
 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
  I have got myself into a bind with kde 3.5.10 and 3.5.9 - I would like
  to unmerge all kde and then remerge it as 3.5.10.  Currently its taken
  me ages to unmerge packages as I have emereg world, which its just
  dawned on me is only printing 3 blocking packages at a time - very
  slow progress
  
  Its just dawned on me that this is kde-meta - is there a way to just
  remove all kde at once?
  
  BillK
  
  
 
 Hi
 
 Something like this should help
 
 # equery list kde-base/ | grep 3\.5 | xargs emerge --unmerge --pretend
 and then the same for kde-misc
 # equery list kde-misc/ | grep 3\.5 | xargs emerge --unmerge --pretend
 
 
 From here:
 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde-config.xml
 

Thanks Uwe, I found this and used it and its now happily rebuilding.

BillK






Re: [gentoo-user] remove all kde and start again ...

2009-04-11 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sat, 2009-04-11 at 12:58 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:44:01 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
 
  Its just dawned on me that this is kde-meta - is there a way to just
  remove all kde at once?
 
 emerge -C kde-meta
 emerge --depclean -a
 
Thanks Neil, I used the xarg way from the kde meta page, but I'll keep
this in mind - the first time I've seen a use for depclean thats really
useful vice housekeeping.

BillK





Re: [gentoo-user] VNC question

2009-04-11 Thread William Kenworthy
Zebedee was (I think) originally designed to offer an encrypted port
based tunnel for vnc amongst other apps.  Ive found it extreemly useful
over the years, and far more stable/flexible/featureful than the ssh
alternative, especially over poor and dialup connections.

zebedee + vnc is classic unix - each doing its own task ... well

BillK


On Sat, 2009-04-11 at 12:11 +0100, Stroller wrote:
 On 11 Apr 2009, at 10:13, Konstantinos Agouros wrote:
  ... the MAC-Screenshare VNC Client gave a warning about 'not so
  good authentication' so it seems apple might after all have a  
  proprietary
  extension in there.
 
 It's worth mentioning that the original GPL, ATT sponsored VNC  
 offered no encryption (except perhaps as https in the browser-based  
 Java version?). The last I heard was that work had ceased upon it,  
 following the termination of ATT sponsorship, but that some of the  
 authors had started their own company selling VNC-based solutions.  
 Their new products are used by at least one company that sells KVM-IP  
 switches, but I believe they are all closed  proprietary. I think  
 more than one OSS / 3rd-party VNC project have, as a consequence,  
 added encryption, but I don't believe that any of them are  
 compatible. :(
 
 It really is a shame, IMO. VNC brought us cross-platform  
 screensharing, but without encryption one is reluctant to use it  
 outside the LAN.
 
 Stroller.
 
-- 
William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au
Home in Perth!




[gentoo-user] Double firefox references in taskbar

2009-04-11 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
Since some time (I think since firefox 3), when I launch firefox using 
the button in kde's menu, I get two Mozilla firefox references in the 
task bar, one of which with the turning hourglass. Then, the main window 
of firefox appears. The bouncing firefox icon continues to be near the 
pointer arrow. After say 10 or 15 seconds, the bouncing icon and the 
taskbar reference with the turning hourglass disappear, and I'm left 
with only one (as should be in the first place imho). The aplication 
associated with the kde menu button is /usr/bin/firefox %U (I tried 
removing the %U, no difference).
If I run /usr/bin/firefox from the command line, everything is fine (ie, 
a single reference in the task bar). 

Anyone else has seen this? Kde version 3.5.9.
Not a big problem, but I'm just curious.



Re: [gentoo-user] kdelibs recompile required but not recognized

2009-04-11 Thread felix
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 11:45:51AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:52:26 -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
 
  If you did install kdelibs, then the Qt version that is picked up by
  this configure is not the same version you used to compile kdelibs.
  The Qt Plugin installed by kdelibs is *ONLY* loadable if it is the
  _same Qt version_, compiled with the _same compiler_ and the same Qt
  configuration settings.
 
 Reinstalling kdelibs alone won't help if Qt was built with an older
 compiler. Re-emerge qt.

I thought I had, and should have said so.  Anyways, I am starting a
rebuild and will see what I see in a while ...

-- 
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  GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E  6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933
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Re: [gentoo-user] Some hints about evdev versus xorg and your mouse and keyboard

2009-04-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:


 # qlist -I -C x11-drivers/
 x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev
 x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard
 x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse
 x11-drivers/xf86-input-synaptics
 x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati

 Are you saying that the above drivers are no longer needed because evdev
 will
 do everything and do it correctly?


In theory, evdev replaces keyboard and mouse. You can have all three
*present*, but you can only *use* either evdev or keyboard/mouse at one
time.

evdev will give you basic keyboard and mouse functionality.
It is always possible that you have unusual hardware and will need to write
an fdi file to tell HAL what you have.
It is also always possible that you have very unusual hardware that evdev
cannot cope with.

-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com


Re: [gentoo-user] Double firefox references in taskbar

2009-04-11 Thread YoYo siska
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 02:13:06PM +0100, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
 Since some time (I think since firefox 3), when I launch firefox using 
 the button in kde's menu, I get two Mozilla firefox references in the 
 task bar, one of which with the turning hourglass. Then, the main window 
 of firefox appears. The bouncing firefox icon continues to be near the 
 pointer arrow. After say 10 or 15 seconds, the bouncing icon and the 
 taskbar reference with the turning hourglass disappear, and I'm left 
 with only one (as should be in the first place imho). The aplication 
 associated with the kde menu button is /usr/bin/firefox %U (I tried 
 removing the %U, no difference).

Mozilla-firefox does have a startup-notification use flag, do you have
it turned on?

 If I run /usr/bin/firefox from the command line, everything is fine (ie, 
 a single reference in the task bar). 

Well, kde doesn't know that you are starting an app, so there's no
startup-notification magic involved ;)

 
 Anyone else has seen this? Kde version 3.5.9.
 Not a big problem, but I'm just curious.



yoyo




[gentoo-user] xorg-server-1.5.3 evdev works

2009-04-11 Thread Philip Webb
Again, for the record in case it's of use to others.
Previously  cautiously, I updated Xorg-server, but used the old modules.
Having got that to work, I've gone the Evdev route  it seems to work !

I recompiled kernel 2.6.29 to use 'event interface' (as instructed).
Then in  /etc/make.conf , I commented

  #INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse

and replaced it with
  
  INPUT_DEVICES=evdev

Then I recompiled Xorg-server without 'USE=-hal'
 in  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  commented the line

  #Option   AutoAddDevices false

I rebooted  everything is working !

I have a Logitech mouse which I bought several years ago
 use a US keyboard layout, which probably simplified the task.

-- 
,,
SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
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Re: [gentoo-user] Double firefox references in taskbar

2009-04-11 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Saturday 11 April 2009, 16:09, YoYo siska wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 02:13:06PM +0100, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
  Since some time (I think since firefox 3), when I launch firefox
  using the button in kde's menu, I get two Mozilla firefox
  references in the task bar, one of which with the turning hourglass.
  Then, the main window of firefox appears. The bouncing firefox icon
  continues to be near the pointer arrow. After say 10 or 15 seconds,
  the bouncing icon and the taskbar reference with the turning
  hourglass disappear, and I'm left with only one (as should be in the
  first place imho). The aplication associated with the kde menu
  button is /usr/bin/firefox %U (I tried removing the %U, no
  difference).

 Mozilla-firefox does have a startup-notification use flag, do you have
 it turned on?

Good catch. I built mozilla-firefox with that flag disabled. Should I 
turn it on (I'm asking before starting a 3-hourse recompile :))

Thank you!



Re: [gentoo-user] Double firefox references in taskbar

2009-04-11 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Saturday 11 April 2009, 16:24, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
 On Saturday 11 April 2009, 16:09, YoYo siska wrote:
  On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 02:13:06PM +0100, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
   Since some time (I think since firefox 3), when I launch firefox
   using the button in kde's menu, I get two Mozilla firefox
   references in the task bar, one of which with the turning
   hourglass. Then, the main window of firefox appears. The bouncing
   firefox icon continues to be near the pointer arrow. After say 10
   or 15 seconds, the bouncing icon and the taskbar reference with
   the turning hourglass disappear, and I'm left with only one (as
   should be in the first place imho). The aplication associated with
   the kde menu button is /usr/bin/firefox %U (I tried removing the
   %U, no difference).
 
  Mozilla-firefox does have a startup-notification use flag, do you
  have it turned on?

 Good catch. I built mozilla-firefox with that flag disabled. Should I
 turn it on (I'm asking before starting a 3-hourse recompile :))

Ok, I found out by myself. Either remove enable launch feedback in the 
button properties, or leve it enabled but recompile firefox with that 
USE flag. Sorry for being dense.

Thank you!



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

2009-04-11 Thread Dale
Jon Hamilton wrote:
 On Wed, April 8, 2009 07:10, Dale wrote:
   
 KH wrote:

 
 Dale schrieb:


   
 Hi,


 I have ran into a problem here.  When I go to
 http://wireless.att.com/
 Seamonkey crashes.  It does this pretty fast even tho I am on a slow
 

 [ KH can't reproduce, using Seamonkey 1.15 ]

 I can't reproduce that either; the site loads/works fine for me.  The site
 does use flash; perhaps it's a problem there?  It might be worth turning
 on flashblock or otherwise disabling flash.  Another suggestion would be
 to try it from a shell with a different home directory, to take your
 .mozilla out of the mix (you could mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.old
 temporarily, or just do
 HOME=/tmp seamonkey http://mobile.att.com so it won't find your .mozilla
 directory and will start fresh/clean.

 Based on your memory and swap usage, it doesn't look to me like that's the
 issue.


   

Well, I'm back again.  I did a new profile by renaming .mozilla and then
copying over my emails, passwords and bookmarks.  I didn't copy anything
else that I can recall.  I also didn't copy prefs.js.  I did edit it to
point to my old passwords file but surely not a problem.  Now, Seamonkey
crashes again.

Could this be a java problem?  Here is the list I have tried:

r...@smoker / # eselect java-nsplugin list
Available Java browser plugins
  [1]   sun-jdk-1.5
  [2]   sun-jdk-1.6  current
  [3]   sun-jdk-1.6-plugin2
r...@smoker / # eselect java-nsplugin set 1
r...@smoker / # eselect java-nsplugin list
Available Java browser plugins
  [1]   sun-jdk-1.5  current
  [2]   sun-jdk-1.6
  [3]   sun-jdk-1.6-plugin2
r...@smoker / #   

Should I try the plugin2 kind?  What is that anyway?  Can someone think
of something else that could cause this?  I do have adblock installed
but it crashes even if I disable it.  This works fine with Konqueror
tho.  I did recently do a emerge -ev world which updated a few things
but not Seamonkey, tho it did recompile it.  Just in case it may matter,
here is some more info:

r...@smoker / # emerge -pv seamonkey

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild U ] www-client/seamonkey-1.1.16 [1.1.15] USE=crypt ipv6
java ldap xprint -debug -gnome -mozdevelop -moznocompose -moznoirc
-moznomail -moznopango -moznoroaming -postgres -xforms -xinerama 37,194 kB

Total: 1 package (1 upgrade), Size of downloads: 37,194 kB
r...@smoker / # emerge --info
Portage 2.2_rc28 (default/linux/x86/2008.0/desktop, gcc-4.3.2,
glibc-2.8_p20080602-r1, 2.6.23-gentoo-r8 i686)
=
System uname:
Linux-2.6.23-gentoo-r8-i686-AMD_Athlon-tm-_XP_2500+-with-glibc2.0
Timestamp of tree: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:45:01 +
app-shells/bash: 3.2_p39
dev-java/java-config: 2.1.7
dev-lang/python: 2.5.2-r7
dev-util/cmake:  2.6.2-r1
sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.11.1
sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.18.1-r2
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.63
sys-devel/automake:  1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10.2
sys-devel/binutils:  2.18-r3
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.0-r4
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.26
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.27-r2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config
/usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/config /var/lib/hsqldb
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d
/etc/env.d/java/ /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild
/etc/terminfo /etc/udev/rules.d
CXXFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--with-bdeps y
FEATURES=buildsyspkg distlocks fixpackages parallel-fetch preserve-libs
protect-owned sandbox sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch
GENTOO_MIRRORS=ftp://gentoo.chem.wisc.edu/gentoo/
ftp://lug.mtu.edu/gentoo/ 
LANG=en_US
LC_ALL=en_US.utf8
LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1
LINGUAS=en_US en
MAKEOPTS=-j3
PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages
PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT=/
PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS=--timeout=600
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times
--compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180
--exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
PORTDIR=/usr/portage
SYNC=rsync://rsync.namerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
USE=3dnow X acl acpi alsa amd arts artswrappersuid automount berkdb
bzip2 cairo cddb cdr chroot cli cracklib crypt cups curl dbus dri dvd
dvdr dvdread eds emboss encode esd evo exif fam fdftk fortran gdbm gif
gimp gkrellm gphoto2 gpm gstreamer gtk hal hbci htmlhandbook iconv ipv6
isdnlog java javascript jbig jpeg jpeg2k justify kde kdeprefix ldap
libnotify libwww logrotate loop-aes mad midi mikmod mmx mp3 mpeg mplayer
mudflap ncurses nptl nptlonly nsplugin offensive ofx ogg opengl openmp
pam parport pcre pdf perl png ppds pppd python qt3 qt3support qt4
quicktime readline realmedia reflection sdl seamonkey session spell spl
sqlite sse ssl 

[gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

2009-04-11 Thread Hartmut Figge
Dale:

Well, I'm back again.  I did a new profile by renaming .mozilla and then
copying over my emails, passwords and bookmarks.  I didn't copy anything
else that I can recall.  I also didn't copy prefs.js.  I did edit it to
point to my old passwords file but surely not a problem.  Now, Seamonkey
crashes again.

So you have no extension installed at the moment? Fine. Then look under
Help-About Plug-ins. Entries there more than the default ones? If so
lets temporarily get rid of them.

Close SM, rename /usr/lib/nsbrowser to /usr/lib/nsbrowser-s, restart SM
and look again for the plugins. Gone? If so go to
http://wireless.att.com/ and see what happens.

It's a long since i used such an archaic version of SM like you. *g*

Hartmut




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

2009-04-11 Thread Dale
Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Dale:

   
 Well, I'm back again.  I did a new profile by renaming .mozilla and then
 copying over my emails, passwords and bookmarks.  I didn't copy anything
 else that I can recall.  I also didn't copy prefs.js.  I did edit it to
 point to my old passwords file but surely not a problem.  Now, Seamonkey
 crashes again.
 

 So you have no extension installed at the moment? Fine. Then look under
 Help-About Plug-ins. Entries there more than the default ones? If so
 lets temporarily get rid of them.

 Close SM, rename /usr/lib/nsbrowser to /usr/lib/nsbrowser-s, restart SM
 and look again for the plugins. Gone? If so go to
 http://wireless.att.com/ and see what happens.

 It's a long since i used such an archaic version of SM like you. *g*

 Hartmut



   

Archaic?  I read about the new Seamonkey 2 but it said it was not ready
for mainstream or something to that effect.  Is it safe enough? 

I'll give those tricks a try.  Heck, it can't hurt anything.  I'll
unmerge something if needed.  I just think it has to be a plugin or
something.  Weird part is it crashing on that email loading up. 
Something in common somewhere.

Will post back shortly.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

2009-04-11 Thread Dale
Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Dale:

   
 Well, I'm back again.  I did a new profile by renaming .mozilla and then
 copying over my emails, passwords and bookmarks.  I didn't copy anything
 else that I can recall.  I also didn't copy prefs.js.  I did edit it to
 point to my old passwords file but surely not a problem.  Now, Seamonkey
 crashes again.
 

 So you have no extension installed at the moment? Fine. Then look under
 Help-About Plug-ins. Entries there more than the default ones? If so
 lets temporarily get rid of them.

 Close SM, rename /usr/lib/nsbrowser to /usr/lib/nsbrowser-s, restart SM
 and look again for the plugins. Gone? If so go to
 http://wireless.att.com/ and see what happens.

 It's a long since i used such an archaic version of SM like you. *g*

 Hartmut


   

OK.  I renamed it to .old then restarted Seamonkey and it still
crashed.  So nothing changed there.  What else can I try?  This is the
list of things on about:plugins:

QuickTime Plug-in 6.0 / 7
RealPlayer 9
Windows Media Player Plugin
mplayerplug-in 3.50
Shockwave Flash
Java(TM) Plug-in 1.5.0_18-b02
Demo Print Plugin for unix/linux

Most of those are linked to mplayerplug-in.  I could get rid of that if
needed.  I just have to unmerge it I guess.  I'm still downloading the
new version of Seamonkey.

Thoughts?

Dale

:-)  :-) 



[gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

2009-04-11 Thread Hartmut Figge
Dale:

[SM 1.x]
Archaic?

For me, yes. Since years i use nightlies of SM. Not quite correct,
though, because i update the source, formerly from cvs, now with hg,
apply my own patches and build my own SM.

I read about the new Seamonkey 2 but it said it was not ready
for mainstream or something to that effect.  Is it safe enough?

Not the normal nightlies. Sometimes there are interesting effects. But
there are now candidates which should be safe enough. The last one:

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/2.0a3-candidates/

I'll give those tricks a try.

With SM2 it would be easier. There's now an Add-on Manager.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/am090411.png (27 KB)

No problem to disable some plugins or extensions for testing.

Weird part is it crashing on that email loading up. 

Weird indeed.

Hartmut




[gentoo-user] xorg-server 1.5.3 doesn't like 'freetype' and 'vga' modules?

2009-04-11 Thread Denis
I was updating the xorg-server on my other gentoo box from 1.3.x to
1.5.3, and my X would not launch until I commented out 'freetype' or
'vga' modules in the xorg.conf - why is that?

Basically, I am going the old keyboard and mouse route for now, and I
rebuilt my nvidia drivers, mouse drivers, and keyboard drivers, as the
instructions told me - but X still wouldn't launch because the loader
complained that it can't find freetype and vga modules.  Are these
modules phased out of the new xorg-server, or am I needing to rebuild
something else still?

Thanks!
Denis



[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server 1.5.3 doesn't like 'freetype' and 'vga' modules?

2009-04-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Denis wrote:

I was updating the xorg-server on my other gentoo box from 1.3.x to
1.5.3, and my X would not launch until I commented out 'freetype' or
'vga' modules in the xorg.conf - why is that?

Basically, I am going the old keyboard and mouse route for now, and I
rebuilt my nvidia drivers, mouse drivers, and keyboard drivers, as the
instructions told me - but X still wouldn't launch because the loader
complained that it can't find freetype and vga modules.  Are these
modules phased out of the new xorg-server, or am I needing to rebuild
something else still?


They are not needed anymore.




[gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

2009-04-11 Thread Hartmut Figge
Dale:

OK.  I renamed it to .old then restarted Seamonkey and it still
crashed.

First you should have looked if the plugins are gone now.

 So nothing changed there.  What else can I try?  This is the
list of things on about:plugins:

QuickTime Plug-in 6.0 / 7
RealPlayer 9
Windows Media Player Plugin
mplayerplug-in 3.50
Shockwave Flash
Java(TM) Plug-in 1.5.0_18-b02
Demo Print Plugin for unix/linux

Despite of  the last one all should have disappeared after renaming
/usr/lib/nsbrowser and restarting of SM. For me that worked. Hm.

If your Shockwave Flash comes from the package adobe-flash, then

h...@e675 ~ $ equery f adobe-flash
[...]
/usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins/libflashplayer.so - /opt/netscape/plugins
[...]

So it seems that on your system /usr/lib/nsbrowser is also used. And
then i don't understand how at least this plugin appears in
abput:plugins after renaming this dir and restarting SM.

The other plugins in your list i cannot search because i don't have them
installed. Gentoo lacks an equivalent to apt-file. Sigh.

But this mplayerplug-in. I had tested it some time ago and unemerged it
because of spurious crashes. I am using mozplugger.

Hartmut




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

2009-04-11 Thread Dale
Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Dale:

 [SM 1.x]
   
 Archaic?
 

 For me, yes. Since years i use nightlies of SM. Not quite correct,
 though, because i update the source, formerly from cvs, now with hg,
 apply my own patches and build my own SM.

   
 I read about the new Seamonkey 2 but it said it was not ready
 for mainstream or something to that effect.  Is it safe enough?
 

 Not the normal nightlies. Sometimes there are interesting effects. But
 there are now candidates which should be safe enough. The last one:

 http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/2.0a3-candidates/

   
 I'll give those tricks a try.
 

 With SM2 it would be easier. There's now an Add-on Manager.
 http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/am090411.png (27 KB)

 No problem to disable some plugins or extensions for testing.

   
 Weird part is it crashing on that email loading up. 
 

 Weird indeed.

 Hartmut

   

Just for curiosity, I'm going to unmerge mplayer.  That will remove a
LOT of the plugins.  I'll report back but I suspect this will still
crash.  If it still crashes after the upgrade today, I'm going to unmask
Seamonkey2 and see what it looks like.  At least it is not as bad as my
recent xorg upgrade.  :-@

BTW, I use gmail so I don't get copies to reply to so I have to keep
coming back to yours.  PITA but it's free.  :-D

Thanks

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Some hints about evdev versus xorg and your mouse and keyboard

2009-04-11 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote:


 On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com
 mailto:michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
  

 # qlist -I -C x11-drivers/
 x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev
 x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard
 x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse
 x11-drivers/xf86-input-synaptics
 x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati

 Are you saying that the above drivers are no longer needed because
 evdev will
 do everything and do it correctly?


 In theory, evdev replaces keyboard and mouse. You can have all three
 *present*, but you can only *use* either evdev or keyboard/mouse at
 one time.

 evdev will give you basic keyboard and mouse functionality.
 It is always possible that you have unusual hardware and will need to
 write an fdi file to tell HAL what you have.
 It is also always possible that you have very unusual hardware that
 evdev cannot cope with.

 -- 
 Alan McKinnon
 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Question, I have had evdev, keyboard and mouse in my make.conf for a
while now.  I also tried the new xorg and it was a disaster for me.  Is
that the problem?  I wish it would try evdev first and then fall back to
the old way if it fails.  That's just me tho.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



[gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

2009-04-11 Thread Hartmut Figge
Dale:

BTW, I use gmail so I don't get copies to reply to so I have to keep
coming back to yours.  PITA but it's free.  :-D

I use news.gmane.org and there is gmane.linux.gentoo.user a normal
newsgroup. No mails. :)

Hartmut




[gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

2009-04-11 Thread Hartmut Figge
Dale:

If it still crashes after the upgrade today, I'm going to unmask
Seamonkey2 and see what it looks like.

One caveat. Your profile will be automatically migrated and you should
be able to use SM2 or SM1. But for emails, if you fetch them with one SM
they are no longer available for the other, unless

[x] Leave messages on server

Hartmut




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

2009-04-11 Thread Dale
Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Dale:

   
 If it still crashes after the upgrade today, I'm going to unmask
 Seamonkey2 and see what it looks like.
 

 One caveat. Your profile will be automatically migrated and you should
 be able to use SM2 or SM1. But for emails, if you fetch them with one SM
 they are no longer available for the other, unless

 [x] Leave messages on server

 Hartmut

   

I may just tell it to leave them on server for a while till I see if it
is stable for me.  I like Seamonkey.  Konqueror is OK but I prefer
Seamonkey.  I would use Firefoz if it wasn't for my emails.  I archive
all my emails here.  I got about 40,000 or so so far.  Most of that is
mailing lists tho.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

2009-04-11 Thread Dale
Hartmut Figge wrote:

 Despite of  the last one all should have disappeared after renaming
 /usr/lib/nsbrowser and restarting of SM. For me that worked. Hm.

 If your Shockwave Flash comes from the package adobe-flash, then

 h...@e675 ~ $ equery f adobe-flash
 [...]
 /usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins/libflashplayer.so - /opt/netscape/plugins
 [...]

 So it seems that on your system /usr/lib/nsbrowser is also used. And
 then i don't understand how at least this plugin appears in
 abput:plugins after renaming this dir and restarting SM.

 The other plugins in your list i cannot search because i don't have them
 installed. Gentoo lacks an equivalent to apt-file. Sigh.

 But this mplayerplug-in. I had tested it some time ago and unemerged it
 because of spurious crashes. I am using mozplugger.

 Hartmut

   

You are correct.  Everything but the last one was gone when I renamed
the directory.  So no need to unmerge anything.  This appears to be a
Seamonkey issue and I have no clue where to start.  I ran Seamonkey in a
console as a user.  This is what I got for a error:

/usr/libexec/mozilla-launcher: line 119: 16912 Segmentation fault 
$(type -P aoss) $mozbin $xulparams $@
seamonkey-bin exited with non-zero status (139)

I can't help but notice xulpaprams in there.  Is that related to
xulrunner?  That give you any ideas?

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] which package contains latex stmaryrd.sty

2009-04-11 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 12:30:44PM +0100, Penguin Lover Stroller squawked:

 *  dev-tex/feynmf
  Latest version available: 1.08-r3
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of files: 328 kB
  Homepage: 
 http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/feynmf/
  Description:   Combined LaTeX/Metafont package for drawing of Feynman 
 diagrams
  License:   GPL-2

 or even this

 *  dev-tex/latex-beamer
  Latest version available: 3.07
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of files: 2,335 kB
  Homepage:  http://latex-beamer.sourceforge.net/
  Description:   LaTeX class for creating presentations using a video 
 projector.
  License:   GPL-2 FDL-1.2 LPPL-1.3c

 a well designed modular approach should not require these for basic 
 functionality.


 I think - and please correct me if I'm wrong, but referring to your 
 previous post - you have USE=extra set.

Actually, this is irrelevant. I looked into the ebuild for texlive
2008, and latex beamer and feynmf are not controllable by USE. 

 I don't know anything about Feynman diagrams, but you might find video 
 projector a little misleading - Beamer is just a package of Powerpoint 
 or presentation templates for export to print or pdf. When I was at uni the 
 lecturers used this package to format their notes for overhead projectors, 
 and printed them on transparency paper. Importing the package will AIUI 
 simply result in the document being processed in a large font (of a type 
 which is clearly legible at the back of the classroom) and bullet-points 
 before each paragraph.

Beamer is a lot more powerful than that now. It makes a PDF
presentation document that when shown with, say, acrobat reader in
full screen, actually is about as good, or better, than powerpoint,
unless you need to deal with multimedia (videos and such). 

I can go on and on about the automated Table Of Contents and
hyper-linked short cuts, and the control bar for advancing and
rewinding slides that also allow you to jump to section headings. But
it is a lot easier to just point you to the website
   http://latex-beamer.sourceforge.net/ 
for their examples. 

It is sort of standard in the younger mathematical and physics
community, especially because of its portability. 

W
-- 
The major difference between a thing that might go wrong 
and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a 
thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually 
turns out to be impossible to get at or repair. 

- One of the laws of computers and programming revealed. 
Sortir en Pantoufles: up 855 days, 19:07



[gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

2009-04-11 Thread Hartmut Figge
Dale:

This appears to be a Seamonkey issue and I have no clue where to
start.  I ran Seamonkey in a console as a user.

To recall. You have renamed ~/.mozilla, SM newly emerged so that it
creates a new ~/.mozilla at the next start, not installed any extension
and have now only the default plugin in about:plugins.

And your SM crashes at http://wireless.att.com/

Interesting. :)

This is what I got for a error:

/usr/libexec/mozilla-launcher: line 119: 16912 Segmentation fault 
$(type -P aoss) $mozbin $xulparams $@
seamonkey-bin exited with non-zero status (139)

I can't help but notice xulpaprams in there.  Is that related to
xulrunner?  That give you any ideas?

No, that doesn't help. Before i disabled the crashreporter in my SM2 with

- ~/.mozconfig -
ac_add_options --disable-crashreporter
---

i got a popup window in case of a crash with informations, which could
be sent to mozilla.org to automatically generate a meaningful report.
But SM1? I don't remember. Too much time.

But you had modified your profile and your prefs.js by hand. Was not
necessary for testing the URL.

Create a new profile with Tools-Switch Profile-Manage Profiles...,
switch to it and do nothing else than calling http://wireless.att.com/
in the browser.

Crash again? If so, then i would fetch
http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/1.1.16/seamonkey-1.1.16.en-US.linux-i686.tar.gz,
put it in a new dir in home, e.g. ~/.sm-test, decompress it there,
change to the dir seamonkey and issue there ./seamonkey after renaming
~/.mozilla to e.g. ~/.mozilla-old-2.

Hm, is 'issue' the right verb? *g*

And, you had never run SM with sudo, right? This could severely damage
your profile.

Hartmut




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

2009-04-11 Thread Dale
Hartmut Figge wrote:

 To recall. You have renamed ~/.mozilla, SM newly emerged so that it
 creates a new ~/.mozilla at the next start, not installed any extension
 and have now only the default plugin in about:plugins.

 And your SM crashes at http://wireless.att.com/

 Interesting. :)
   

A few days ago, I did rename .mozilla to .mozilla.old and it worked
fine.  Then I copied over my emails, password files and bookmarks.  I
did notice that when I pointed the prefs.js file to the correct password
file, it started messing up shortly after that.  Keep in mind that all I
did is correct the name of the password file.  I guess it could be that
something is messed up with the password file.  After all, I do have to
enter my login and password there.  I would assume it would access the
password file at some point in loading the page.



 No, that doesn't help. Before i disabled the crashreporter in my SM2 with

 - ~/.mozconfig -
 ac_add_options --disable-crashreporter
 ---

 i got a popup window in case of a crash with informations, which could
 be sent to mozilla.org to automatically generate a meaningful report.
 But SM1? I don't remember. Too much time.

 But you had modified your profile and your prefs.js by hand. Was not
 necessary for testing the URL.

 Create a new profile with Tools-Switch Profile-Manage Profiles...,
 switch to it and do nothing else than calling http://wireless.att.com/
 in the browser.

 Crash again? If so, then i would fetch
 http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/1.1.16/seamonkey-1.1.16.en-US.linux-i686.tar.gz,
 put it in a new dir in home, e.g. ~/.sm-test, decompress it there,
 change to the dir seamonkey and issue there ./seamonkey after renaming
 ~/.mozilla to e.g. ~/.mozilla-old-2.

 Hm, is 'issue' the right verb? *g*

 And, you had never run SM with sudo, right? This could severely damage
 your profile.

 Hartmut


   

I would hate to have to install it locally that way.  I sort of let
portage handle all that.  I mess up enough already with portage helping
me.  lol 

I have ran Seamonkey as root before but never used sudo.  I have never
used sudo for anything actually.  I have to use root to install adblock
or it doesn't work.  That is the only time I use it as root tho.  I got
that link bookmarked.  I go to it, install adblock and then close it. 

I'm hoping this new version will fix something.  Other wise, I may try a
new profile without copying my passwords file.  I would hate to loose
those.  I use several different passwords depending on the site.  May
also try Seamonkey2.

Time will tell I guess.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

2009-04-11 Thread Dale
Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Dale:

   
 This appears to be a Seamonkey issue and I have no clue where to
 start.  I ran Seamonkey in a console as a user.
 

 To recall. You have renamed ~/.mozilla, SM newly emerged so that it
 creates a new ~/.mozilla at the next start, not installed any extension
 and have now only the default plugin in about:plugins.

 And your SM crashes at http://wireless.att.com/

 Interesting. :)

   

I found another site that it crashes on. 

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2513/fan-214/Thermaltake_120mm_Smart_Case_Fan_II_A2029.html

Makes one wonder what these two have in common.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server-1.5 = no memory card device

2009-04-11 Thread Grant
 After upgrading to xorg-server-1.5, the /dev/sdb1 device no longer
 appears when I insert a memory card.  Does anyone know why that is?

 - Grant

 you also did an udev update and nuked some config files?

It looks like udev was updated on March 31st and xorg-server on April
6th.  I suppose it's possible I put off running etc-update until the
6th though, or much more likely is I didn't reboot until the 6th.
This behavior is the same across 2 laptops.  My desktop is still on
xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 and it automounts the memory card.

If it's udev, where should I look?

- Grant



[gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

2009-04-11 Thread Hartmut Figge
Dale:

A few days ago, I did rename .mozilla to .mozilla.old and it worked
fine.  Then I copied over my emails, password files and bookmarks.

You should really test with a new profile as described. That is the
standard way to test the integrity of a profile.

No crash in the testprofile and you know, that something is wrong in the
old one. And if the testprofile crashes you can go back to the old
profile and have nothing lost but some minutes.

I did notice that when I pointed the prefs.js file to the correct
password file, it started messing up shortly after that.

Sounds like the prefs.js is corrupt after editing. Which editor did you
use? And surely SM was closed while editing, hm? ;)

Keep in mind that all I did is correct the name of the password file.

That could be done.

I guess it could be that something is messed up with the password
file.

And i guess that something went wrong with editing the prefs.js. *g*

 Create a new profile with Tools-Switch Profile-Manage Profiles...,
 switch to it and do nothing else than calling http://wireless.att.com/
 in the browser.

Do so!

[ seamonkey-1.1.16.en-US.linux-i686.tar.gz from mozilla.org ]
I would hate to have to install it locally that way.  I sort of let
portage handle all that.  I mess up enough already with portage helping
me.  lol

I doubt i will be necessary after using a testprofile.

And there is no danger in unpacking and running SM locally. It will not
interfere with gentoo and can be safely removed after testing without
leaving traces.

But probably not necessary. Did i mention already that you should use a
testprofile?

I have ran Seamonkey as root before but never used sudo.

Than there is no danger. Running as root is okay.

Hartmut




Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server-1.5 = no memory card device

2009-04-11 Thread Grant
 After upgrading to xorg-server-1.5, the /dev/sdb1 device no longer
 appears when I insert a memory card.  Does anyone know why that is?

 - Grant

 you also did an udev update and nuked some config files?

 It looks like udev was updated on March 31st and xorg-server on April
 6th.  I suppose it's possible I put off running etc-update until the
 6th though, or much more likely is I didn't reboot until the 6th.
 This behavior is the same across 2 laptops.  My desktop is still on
 xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 and it automounts the memory card.

Sorry, I meant the desktop is on xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6.

- Grant


 If it's udev, where should I look?

 - Grant



[gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

2009-04-11 Thread Hartmut Figge
Dale:

I found another site that it crashes on. 

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2513/fan-214/Thermaltake_120mm_Smart_Case_Fan_II_A2029.html

No problem here. Tested with a gentoo SM 1.1.16 with --no-remote while
running my SM2.

Hartmut




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

2009-04-11 Thread Dale
Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Dale:

   
 A few days ago, I did rename .mozilla to .mozilla.old and it worked
 fine.  Then I copied over my emails, password files and bookmarks.
 

 You should really test with a new profile as described. That is the
 standard way to test the integrity of a profile.

 No crash in the testprofile and you know, that something is wrong in the
 old one. And if the testprofile crashes you can go back to the old
 profile and have nothing lost but some minutes.

   

This is what I did the other day when I renamed .mozilla to
.mozilla.old.  Seamonkey did NOT crash when I did that.  It also didn't
after I transfered my emails and didn't for a little bit after I
transfered the password files. 

 I did notice that when I pointed the prefs.js file to the correct
 password file, it started messing up shortly after that.
 

 Sounds like the prefs.js is corrupt after editing. Which editor did you
 use? And surely SM was closed while editing, hm? ;)
   

Actually, I used about:config to edit it.  I did restart Seamonkey tho
it shouldn't be necessary.  My old passwords did show up then tho. 
Again, that site worked the first couple times.

   
 Keep in mind that all I did is correct the name of the password file.
 

 That could be done.

   
 I guess it could be that something is messed up with the password
 file.
 

 And i guess that something went wrong with editing the prefs.js. *g*
   

This is the line that i changed:

wallet.SchemaValueFileName

And I changed it to:

60988542.s

Which is the name of the file that contains my password info.  Is there
a way to export then import my password info?  I can't find one other
than the way I did it.

   
 Create a new profile with Tools-Switch Profile-Manage Profiles...,
 switch to it and do nothing else than calling http://wireless.att.com/
 in the browser.
   

 Do so!

 [ seamonkey-1.1.16.en-US.linux-i686.tar.gz from mozilla.org ]
   
 I would hate to have to install it locally that way.  I sort of let
 portage handle all that.  I mess up enough already with portage helping
 me.  lol
 

 I doubt i will be necessary after using a testprofile.

 And there is no danger in unpacking and running SM locally. It will not
 interfere with gentoo and can be safely removed after testing without
 leaving traces.

 But probably not necessary. Did i mention already that you should use a
 testprofile?
   

I have done that on windoze before.  It does work.  I just pulled out
enough hair this week.  o_O

   
 I have ran Seamonkey as root before but never used sudo.
 

 Than there is no danger. Running as root is okay.

 Hartmut

   

Cool.  I got to have my adblock.  I'm on dial-up and I try to save all
the downloading I can.

Dale

:-)  :-)



[gentoo-user] Mythfrontend segfaults

2009-04-11 Thread Michael Sullivan
I ran emerge -avuD world on my system today, and now mythfrontend
segfaults.  Here's my info:

camille ~ # emerge -pv mythtv

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p18314-r1  USE=alsa debug dvb dvd
jack lirc mmx opengl perl python -aac (-altivec) -autostart -directv
-fftw -ieee1394 -lcd -xvmc VIDEO_CARDS=-nvidia 0 kB
camille ~ # mythbackend
2009-04-11 18:31:16.670 Using runtime prefix = /usr
2009-04-11 18:31:16.686 Empty LocalHostName.
2009-04-11 18:31:16.686 Using localhost value of camille
2009-04-11 18:31:16.747 New DB connection, total: 1
2009-04-11 18:31:16.787 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host:
localhost
2009-04-11 18:31:16.790 Closing DB connection named 'DBManager0'
2009-04-11 18:31:16.791 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host:
localhost
2009-04-11 18:31:16.821 New DB connection, total: 2
2009-04-11 18:31:16.827 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host:
localhost
2009-04-11 18:31:16.839 Current Schema Version: 1214
Starting up as the master server.
2009-04-11 18:31:16.966 mythbackend: MythBackend started as master
server
2009-04-11 18:31:17.102 New DB connection, total: 3
2009-04-11 18:31:17.103 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host:
localhost
2009-04-11 18:31:17.203 New DB scheduler connection
2009-04-11 18:31:17.204 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host:
localhost
2009-04-11 18:31:18.552 Main::Registering HttpStatus Extension
2009-04-11 18:31:18.553 mythbackend version: 0.21.20080304-1
www.mythtv.org
2009-04-11 18:31:18.554 Enabled verbose msgs:  important general
2009-04-11 18:31:18.557 AutoExpire: CalcParams(): Max required Free
Space: 0.0 GB w/freq: 15 min
2009-04-11 18:31:20.212 Reschedule requested for id -1.
2009-04-11 18:31:24.479 Scheduled 281 items in 4.3 = 3.10 match + 1.16
place
2009-04-11 18:31:24.496 scheduler: Scheduled items: Scheduled 281 items
in 4.3 = 3.10 match + 1.16 place
2009-04-11 18:31:24.504 Seem to be woken up by USER
2009-04-11 18:31:26.976 mythbackend: Running housekeeping thread
2009-04-11 18:31:27.306 UPnpMedia: BuildMediaMap VIDEO scan starting
in :/share/Movies/dvd:
2009-04-11 18:31:27.306 UPnpMedia: BuildMediaMap Done. Found 0 objects

mich...@camille ~ $ mythfrontend
2009-04-11 18:31:47.740 Using runtime prefix = /usr
2009-04-11 18:31:48.608 XScreenSaver support enabled
2009-04-11 18:31:48.609 DPMS is active.
2009-04-11 18:31:48.628 Empty LocalHostName.
2009-04-11 18:31:48.629 Using localhost value of camille
2009-04-11 18:31:48.748 New DB connection, total: 1
2009-04-11 18:31:48.753 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host:
localhost
2009-04-11 18:31:48.832 Closing DB connection named 'DBManager0'
2009-04-11 18:31:48.856 Primary screen 0.
2009-04-11 18:31:48.857 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host:
localhost
2009-04-11 18:31:48.859 Using screen 0, 1024x768 at 0,0
2009-04-11 18:31:48.964 New DB connection, total: 2
2009-04-11 18:31:48.965 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host:
localhost
2009-04-11 18:31:48.970 mythfrontend version: 0.21.20080304-1
www.mythtv.org
2009-04-11 18:31:48.970 Enabled verbose msgs:  important general
2009-04-11 18:31:51.785 No theme
dir: /home/michael/.mythtv/themes/G.A.N.T
2009-04-11 18:31:51.788 Primary screen 0.
2009-04-11 18:31:51.789 Using screen 0, 1024x768 at 0,0
2009-04-11 18:31:51.791 No theme
dir: /home/michael/.mythtv/themes/G.A.N.T
2009-04-11 18:31:51.792 Switching to square mode (G.A.N.T)
2009-04-11 18:31:52.026 Using the Qt painter
mythtv: could not connect to socket
mythtv: No such file or directory
2009-04-11 18:31:52.027 lirc_init failed for mythtv, see preceding
messages
2009-04-11 18:31:52.028 JoystickMenuClient Error: Joystick disabled -
Failed to read /home/michael/.mythtv/joystickmenurc
Segmentation fault
mich...@camille ~ $ 

Has anyone else experienced this or have any idea how to fix this?  We
record a couple of hours of television every day and I don't know if
it's still being recorded.  Mysql and mythbackend are both running:

camille ~ # ps ax | grep mysql
20526 pts/1R+ 0:00 grep --colour=auto mysql
25839 ?Ssl0:05 /usr/sbin/mysqld
--defaults-file=/etc/mysql/my.cnf --basedir=/usr
--datadir=/var/lib/mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid
--socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
camille ~ # ps ax | grep mythbackend
20528 pts/1S+ 0:00 grep --colour=auto mythbackend

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB

But I won't know if mythbackend is actually working correctly unless I
can check it (with mythfrontend, which of course isn't working.)  Please
help!






[gentoo-user] Re: remove all kde and start again ...

2009-04-11 Thread james
Uwe keksvernichter at googlemail.com writes:


 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde-config.xml


I wonder when this page will be updated with KDE-4 information,
and other related issues?


Anyone with insight or inside info?


James






[gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

2009-04-11 Thread Hartmut Figge
Dale:
Hartmut Figge wrote:

 No crash in the testprofile and you know, that something is wrong in the
 old one. And if the testprofile crashes you can go back to the old
 profile and have nothing lost but some minutes.

This is what I did the other day when I renamed .mozilla to
.mozilla.old.  Seamonkey did NOT crash when I did that.

Fine. No crash before ...

It also didn't after I transfered my emails and didn't for a little
bit after I transfered the password files.

... you touched the profile ...

 Sounds like the prefs.js is corrupt after editing. Which editor did you
 use? And surely SM was closed while editing, hm? ;)

Actually, I used about:config to edit it.  I did restart Seamonkey tho
it shouldn't be necessary.  My old passwords did show up then tho. 
Again, that site worked the first couple times.

... but that could mean that SM with the unchanged profile could have
crashed also if only you had tried long enough.

Unlikely, though, because you seem the only one with this specific crash.

Now i have looked in the former thread and found

|After some testing, it is when I copy the pref.js
|file that the emails disappear again.

and i remembered you difficulties with emails. Did you really copy the
prefs.js from your old profile, edited it and use it now? Shudder. *g*

 And i guess that something went wrong with editing the prefs.js. *g*

This is the line that i changed:

wallet.SchemaValueFileName

And I changed it to:

60988542.s

Mhm. This pref is for form history and should point to number.w. The
pref for passwords is signon.SignonFileName and points to number.s. Form
history pointing to number.s is, eh, quite unusual. ;)

Which is the name of the file that contains my password info.

number.s contains password info, that's correct, but the corresponding
pref is signon.SignonFileName and not wallet.SchemaValueFileName.

Is there a way to export then import my password info? I can't find
one other than the way I did it.

Moving to a new profile isn't too hard. Years ago i had done so
sometimes, mostly, to get get rid of a corrupted prefs.js. E.g. at the
time as i tried sudo. *g*

Never use the old prefs.js or parts of it. I don't like changing prefs
with about:config and prefer user_pref in the user.js. There i can
comment and i know later what i had done. And i can use the user.js in a
new profile.

And for number.s and number.w, well, i had edited prefs.js, naturally
after making a backup.

  Did i mention already that you should use a testprofile?

I have done that on windoze before.  It does work.  I just pulled out
enough hair this week.  o_O

Reminds me on my migration to xorg 1.5. *g*

Hartmut




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

2009-04-11 Thread Dale
Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Dale:
   
 Hartmut Figge wrote:
 

   
 No crash in the testprofile and you know, that something is wrong in the
 old one. And if the testprofile crashes you can go back to the old
 profile and have nothing lost but some minutes.
   
 This is what I did the other day when I renamed .mozilla to
 .mozilla.old.  Seamonkey did NOT crash when I did that.
 

 Fine. No crash before ...

   
 It also didn't after I transfered my emails and didn't for a little
 bit after I transfered the password files.
 

 ... you touched the profile ...

   
 Sounds like the prefs.js is corrupt after editing. Which editor did you
 use? And surely SM was closed while editing, hm? ;)
   
 Actually, I used about:config to edit it.  I did restart Seamonkey tho
 it shouldn't be necessary.  My old passwords did show up then tho. 
 Again, that site worked the first couple times.
 

 ... but that could mean that SM with the unchanged profile could have
 crashed also if only you had tried long enough.

 Unlikely, though, because you seem the only one with this specific crash.

 Now i have looked in the former thread and found

 |After some testing, it is when I copy the pref.js
 |file that the emails disappear again.

 and i remembered you difficulties with emails. Did you really copy the
 prefs.js from your old profile, edited it and use it now? Shudder. *g*
   

I did at one point but then I removed the profile and started over
again.  What I do is this.  I make a copy of my .mozilla directory to
another hard drive for extra protection.  Then I rename, start fresh and
do whatever.  I may delete the clean profile a dozen times until I get
things sorted.  I would bet I deleted the clean profile a dozen times
while trying several different things to get that site to load without
crashing.  With the last clean profile, I only copied the emails,
password files, bookmarks then edited the prefs.js file to point to the
new clean profile.  I figured out that copying the prefs.js file was
the problem so I stopped copying that.

I did change some preferences under the Edit menu.  I just wonder if one
of those triggers something that is somewhat unique to me.  I am weird
according to some.  I may have some setting that no one else uses.

   
 And i guess that something went wrong with editing the prefs.js. *g*
   
 This is the line that i changed:

 wallet.SchemaValueFileName

 And I changed it to:

 60988542.s
 

 Mhm. This pref is for form history and should point to number.w. The
 pref for passwords is signon.SignonFileName and points to number.s. Form
 history pointing to number.s is, eh, quite unusual. ;)

   
 Which is the name of the file that contains my password info.
 

 number.s contains password info, that's correct, but the corresponding
 pref is signon.SignonFileName and not wallet.SchemaValueFileName.
   

Well, according to a how to, that was the correct file and it did load
my passwords as soon as I pointed it to that file.  I found that by
looking at about:config and finding the new password file it generated
while making the clean profile.  I then replaced the location to point
to my old file.  I may try that in a bit tho just in case.  I still have
my old .mozilla backups.

   
 Is there a way to export then import my password info? I can't find
 one other than the way I did it.
 

 Moving to a new profile isn't too hard. Years ago i had done so
 sometimes, mostly, to get get rid of a corrupted prefs.js. E.g. at the
 time as i tried sudo. *g*

 Never use the old prefs.js or parts of it. I don't like changing prefs
 with about:config and prefer user_pref in the user.js. There i can
 comment and i know later what i had done. And i can use the user.js in a
 new profile.
   

I need to research user.js.  I have never heard of that one. 

 And for number.s and number.w, well, i had edited prefs.js, naturally
 after making a backup.

   
  Did i mention already that you should use a testprofile?
   
 I have done that on windoze before.  It does work.  I just pulled out
 enough hair this week.  o_O
 

 Reminds me on my migration to xorg 1.5. *g*

 Hartmut

   

Xorg is why I have very little hair right now.  I went back to the OLD
xorg and did -hal to boot.  I masked the new xorg for now.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

P. S.  About to try the updated Seamonkey.   Dale crosses fingers, toes
and whatever else he can cross 



Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server-1.5.3 evdev works wonders

2009-04-11 Thread Philip Webb
After installing Xorg-server 1.5.3  adopting the Evdev approach,
I can unplug + replug my mouse  keyboard without losing usage:
previously, you had to restart X to get them back.  I assume
the idea behind the change is to allow hotplugging these devices.

-- 
,,
SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
TRANSIT`-O--O---'   purslowatchassdotutorontodotca




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server 1.5.3 doesn't like 'freetype' and 'vga' modules?

2009-04-11 Thread Philip Webb
090411 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
 Denis wrote:
 I updated the xorg-server from 1.3.x to 1.5.3  my X wouldn't launch
 until I commented 'freetype' or 'vga' in xorg.conf - why is that?
 Basically, I am going the old keyboard and mouse route for now
 and I rebuilt my nvidia drivers, mouse drivers and keyboard drivers,
 but X still wouldn't launch because the loader complained
 that it can't find freetype and vga modules.
 Are these modules phased out of the new xorg-server
 or am I needing to rebuild something else still?
 They are not needed anymore.

My 'xorg.conf' still has the Freetype line (not Vga) without problems.
I'm now using 1.5.3 with Evdev.

BTW the Nvidia driver is still being used (acc to 'lshal'),
but its splash screen no longer appears: can anyone explain ?

-- 
,,
SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
TRANSIT`-O--O---'   purslowatchassdotutorontodotca




Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server-1.5.3 evdev works wonders

2009-04-11 Thread Dale
Philip Webb wrote:
 After installing Xorg-server 1.5.3  adopting the Evdev approach,
 I can unplug + replug my mouse  keyboard without losing usage:
 previously, you had to restart X to get them back.  I assume
 the idea behind the change is to allow hotplugging these devices.

   

You have a ps/2 keyboard and mouse or USB? 

Curious.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server-1.5.3 evdev works wonders

2009-04-11 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:47:46 -0400
Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote:

 After installing Xorg-server 1.5.3  adopting the Evdev approach,
 I can unplug + replug my mouse  keyboard without losing usage:
 previously, you had to restart X to get them back.  I assume
 the idea behind the change is to allow hotplugging these devices.

Strangely enough, I do it more than ten times a day, and it works
perfectly with old-style configuration.
Same thing worked for PS/2 keyboard/mouse, unlike M$-OS.

-- 
Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net


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[gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

2009-04-11 Thread Hartmut Figge
Dale:

What I do is this.  I make a copy of my .mozilla directory to
another hard drive for extra protection.

Not bad.

Then I rename,

So did i.

start fresh and do whatever.

Nothing complicated, really. Start SM and create the old accounts
exactly as they were before. Close SM and replace the folder Mail on the
new profile with the folder Mail from the old profile.

For News it should be the same, but i never had done so and preferred
fresh newsgroups. Because, well, there often are ugly remains, some of
the .msf may be corrupt and also some lines in the newsrc. For news i
find it better to start fresh over.

Except, of course, the tedious subcribing of the newsgroups. Here's how
i do this.

You had already created accounts for all newsservers and should have
made a refresh for them also. Then all you have to do is to copy the
newsrc-newsserver files from the old profile to the new one and delete
in each of it in each line all after the :.

Here is an example. Currently

- newsrc-news.gmane.org -
gmane.linux.gentoo.user.german: 1-33077
gmane.linux.gentoo.user: 1-212427
gmane.linux.gentoo.devel: 1-60793
gmane.linux.debian.user.german: 1-242119
gmane.linux.ubuntu.user.german: 1-16702
gmane.comp.emulators.wine.user: 1-43376
gmane.comp.emulators.wine.devel: 1-68902
gmane.comp.emulators.wine.releases: 1-87
gmane.emacs.gnus.general: 1-68424
gmane.emacs.gnus.user: 1-12111
---

would become for the new profile

- newsrc-news.gmane.org -
gmane.linux.gentoo.user.german:
gmane.linux.gentoo.user:
gmane.linux.gentoo.devel:
gmane.linux.debian.user.german:
gmane.linux.ubuntu.user.german:
gmane.comp.emulators.wine.user:
gmane.comp.emulators.wine.devel:
gmane.comp.emulators.wine.releases:
gmane.emacs.gnus.general:
gmane.emacs.gnus.user:
---

In this way i reuse my old subscriptions if i go to a new newsserver.

Then you need number.s and number.w from the old profile. In the new one
other numbers are used so they had to be adjusted in the prefs.js.

Other useful files are abook.mab, bookmarks.html and if you are using
certificates cert8.db and key3.db.

With the last clean profile, I only copied the emails,
password files, bookmarks then edited the prefs.js file to point to the
new clean profile.

Hm? That i don't understand.

I did change some preferences under the Edit menu.

Why not.

I just wonder if one of those triggers something that is somewhat
unique to me.

There should be no problem.

 number.s contains password info, that's correct, but the corresponding
 pref is signon.SignonFileName and not wallet.SchemaValueFileName.
   

Well, according to a how to, that was the correct file

Sure, number.s is for the passwords. It is the correct file but belongs
to signon.SignonFileName ;)

and it did load my passwords as soon as I pointed it to that file.  I
found that by looking at about:config and finding the new password
file it generated while making the clean profile.

I have tried that now. Starting SM, closing it immediately and looking
in the profile there is neither number.s nor number.w. You have to input
at least one password before number.s is created.

I then replaced the location to point to my old file.

You must copy the old number.s to the new profile and then change the
value in the prefs.js from the new number to the old number, yes.

 I don't like changing prefs with about:config and prefer user_pref
 in the user.js. There i can comment and i know later what i had
 done. And i can use the user.js in a new profile.

I need to research user.js.  I have never heard of that one.

The user.js is a normal textfile in the profile which must be created it
it not exists. In the same directory in which the prefs.js resides.

Upon start SM looks into the user.js and put the found prefs into the
prefs.js.

Here's an excerpt from mine.

- user.js -
user_pref(mail.quoted_graphical, false);

user_pref(mailnews.display.disable_format_flowed_support, true);
user_pref(mailnews.send_plaintext_flowed, false);

user_pref(mail.compose.other.header, Supersedes,Control);

// Leerzeilenproblematik im gequoteten Text
user_pref(mail.quoteasblock, false);

// Beim Start Threads zugeklappt lassen
user_pref(mailnews.scroll_to_new_message, false);
---

P. S.  About to try the updated Seamonkey.   Dale crosses fingers, toes
and whatever else he can cross 

You mean SM2? Well, it will migrate your old profile and if there are
errors ... ;)

Hartmut




[gentoo-user] Bye

2009-04-11 Thread Hartmut Figge
Greetings,

some nice days here but it is eating too much of my time. I'm writing
this in case someone will reply to my former postings and wonder why
there is no answer.

Hartmut, unsubscribing




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

2009-04-11 Thread Dale
Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Dale:

   
 start fresh and do whatever.
 

 Nothing complicated, really. Start SM and create the old accounts
 exactly as they were before. Close SM and replace the folder Mail on the
 new profile with the folder Mail from the old profile.
   

That's basically what I did.  It was the passwords that gave me fits.  I
have a lot of passwords since I pay most bills online and order online a
lot too.  I find the cheapest price whether I have done business with
them in the past or not.

 For News it should be the same, but i never had done so and preferred
 fresh newsgroups. Because, well, there often are ugly remains, some of
 the .msf may be corrupt and also some lines in the newsrc. For news i
 find it better to start fresh over.

 Except, of course, the tedious subcribing of the newsgroups. Here's how
 i do this.

 You had already created accounts for all newsservers and should have
 made a refresh for them also. Then all you have to do is to copy the
 newsrc-newsserver files from the old profile to the new one and delete
 in each of it in each line all after the :.

 Here is an example. Currently

 - newsrc-news.gmane.org -
 gmane.linux.gentoo.user.german: 1-33077
 gmane.linux.gentoo.user: 1-212427
 gmane.linux.gentoo.devel: 1-60793
 gmane.linux.debian.user.german: 1-242119
 gmane.linux.ubuntu.user.german: 1-16702
 gmane.comp.emulators.wine.user: 1-43376
 gmane.comp.emulators.wine.devel: 1-68902
 gmane.comp.emulators.wine.releases: 1-87
 gmane.emacs.gnus.general: 1-68424
 gmane.emacs.gnus.user: 1-12111
 ---

 would become for the new profile

 - newsrc-news.gmane.org -
 gmane.linux.gentoo.user.german:
 gmane.linux.gentoo.user:
 gmane.linux.gentoo.devel:
 gmane.linux.debian.user.german:
 gmane.linux.ubuntu.user.german:
 gmane.comp.emulators.wine.user:
 gmane.comp.emulators.wine.devel:
 gmane.comp.emulators.wine.releases:
 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:
 gmane.emacs.gnus.user:
 ---

 In this way i reuse my old subscriptions if i go to a new newsserver.
   

I don't have any news accounts.  Maybe one day tho.  ;-)  I get to bug a
new set of people. 

 Then you need number.s and number.w from the old profile. In the new one
 other numbers are used so they had to be adjusted in the prefs.js.

 Other useful files are abook.mab, bookmarks.html and if you are using
 certificates cert8.db and key3.db.
   

I did copy the key3.db file because the how to said it was part of the
passwords file set.

   
 With the last clean profile, I only copied the emails,
 password files, bookmarks then edited the prefs.js file to point to the
 new clean profile.
 

 Hm? That i don't understand.
   

Well, at first, it wouldn't find the .s and .w file so no passwords.  I
had to sort of point it out to Seamonkey.

   
 I did change some preferences under the Edit menu.
 

 Why not.

   
 I just wonder if one of those triggers something that is somewhat
 unique to me.
 

 There should be no problem.

   
 number.s contains password info, that's correct, but the corresponding
 pref is signon.SignonFileName and not wallet.SchemaValueFileName.
   
   
 Well, according to a how to, that was the correct file
 

 Sure, number.s is for the passwords. It is the correct file but belongs
 to signon.SignonFileName ;)
   

On mine, it appears to be the same for both, even in the new profile. 
May test that more later.

   
 and it did load my passwords as soon as I pointed it to that file.  I
 found that by looking at about:config and finding the new password
 file it generated while making the clean profile.
 

 I have tried that now. Starting SM, closing it immediately and looking
 in the profile there is neither number.s nor number.w. You have to input
 at least one password before number.s is created.

   
 I then replaced the location to point to my old file.
 

 You must copy the old number.s to the new profile and then change the
 value in the prefs.js from the new number to the old number, yes.

   
 I don't like changing prefs with about:config and prefer user_pref
 in the user.js. There i can comment and i know later what i had
 done. And i can use the user.js in a new profile.
   
 I need to research user.js.  I have never heard of that one.
 

 The user.js is a normal textfile in the profile which must be created it
 it not exists. In the same directory in which the prefs.js resides.

 Upon start SM looks into the user.js and put the found prefs into the
 prefs.js.

 Here's an excerpt from mine.

 - user.js -
 user_pref(mail.quoted_graphical, false);

 user_pref(mailnews.display.disable_format_flowed_support, true);
 user_pref(mailnews.send_plaintext_flowed, false);

 user_pref(mail.compose.other.header, Supersedes,Control);

 // Leerzeilenproblematik im gequoteten Text
 user_pref(mail.quoteasblock, false);

 // Beim Start Threads zugeklappt lassen
 user_pref(mailnews.scroll_to_new_message, false);
 ---

   
 P. S.