Re: [gentoo-user] preserved-rebuild acting strangely

2013-05-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 12/05/13 14:29, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 12 May 2013 02:50:44 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am using gentoo unstable and after this last update when I tried to do emerge @preserved-rebuild I get the following: I didn't know Gentoo specifical

Re: [gentoo-user] gettext missing symlink message

2013-05-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 13/05/13 04:57, Walter Dnes wrote: I ran into this today while installing Gentoo on my new machine. making executable: usr/lib64/preloadable_libintl.so .[33;01m * .[39;49;00mQA Notice: Missing soname symlink(s): .[33;01m * .[39;49;00m .[33;01m * .[39;49;00m usr/lib64/libgnuintl.so.8 -> pr

Re: [gentoo-user] gettext missing symlink message

2013-05-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 13/05/13 09:19, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 13/05/13 04:57, Walter Dnes wrote: I ran into this today while installing Gentoo on my new machine. making executable: usr/lib64/preloadable_libintl.so .[33;01m * .[39;49;00mQA Notice: Missing soname symlink(s): .[33;01m * .[39;49;00m .[33;01m

Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa Question (alsaconf R.I.P.)

2013-05-18 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 17/05/13 21:30, Silvio Siefke wrote: (generated by alsaconf) Gentoo's alsa-guide.xml is outdated and is incorrectly suggesting the use of alsaconf When in reality alsaconf doesn't work at all with sys-apps/kmod because it doesn't generate 'modules.pcimap' and 'modules.usbmap' files anym

Re: [gentoo-user] Acer Aspire One D255

2013-06-06 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 06/06/13 14:52, Silvio Siefke wrote: Hello, i have a new netbook buy and want install Gentoo on it. So the Installation run without problems, but i understand not why the network want not start. I make the installation with Sabayon Linux and from there i compile the Kernel with make localyes

Re: [gentoo-user] Without udev, who/what names ethernet devices?

2013-06-07 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 07/06/13 18:05, Chris Stankevitz wrote: On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 1:06 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Regarding this string "eth0": 1. What does this string represent? Is it a file on a filesystem? (no!) Is it okay for me to call it an "ethernet *device*" It's just a name. I'm interested in a

Re: [gentoo-user] Without udev, who/what names ethernet devices?

2013-06-07 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 07/06/13 21:09, Samuli Suominen wrote: [ .. ] One more link related, http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/src/udev?id=97595710b77aa162ca5e20da57d0a1ed7355eaad From there you can find the code that does the renaming in udev.

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM2 compile error. Clock_gettime

2013-06-25 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 26/06/13 07:58, Dale wrote: I can't seem to get lvm2 to compile. I get this error: FILE=`echo lvchange.d | sed 's/\\//\\//g;s/\\.d//g'`; \ DEPS=`echo ../make.tmpl ../VERSION ../Makefile ../include/.symlinks_created | sed -e 's/\\//\\//g'`; \ x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -MM -I. -I../inclu

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM2 compile error. Clock_gettime

2013-06-25 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 26/06/13 09:31, Dale wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: On 26/06/13 07:58, Dale wrote: I can't seem to get lvm2 to compile. I get this error: FILE=`echo lvchange.d | sed 's/\\//\\//g;s/\\.d//g'`; \ DEPS=`echo ../make.tmpl ../VERSION ../Makefile ../include/.symlinks_crea

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus problems - am I the only one who has these?

2013-07-11 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 11/07/13 12:32, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 07/11/2013 10:31:04 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:36:29 +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Error calling > StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1: > GDBus.Error:org.free

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 22/07/13 10:03, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, How did you resolve this conflict? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut As a maintainer of sys-auth/consolekit, and xfce-base/xfce4-meta I can assure you sys-auth/consolekit is not about to be removed and the support for systemd-logind will be appended

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 22/07/13 18:02, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: ConsoleKit is for all practical purposes unmaintained, and all of the packages you mentioned it support systemd just fine. Emerge systemd, and purge CK from your system; I did that almost a year ago. It's how you look at it. I call it "mature" but

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/07/13 00:46, Mark David Dumlao wrote: This would be a lot less of an issue if someone just wrote a logind ebuild (wink wink) that provides consolekit like it was originally intended. not possible, logind since systemd >= 205 requires systemd and won't work on openrc, upstart, and such a

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/07/13 09:11, András Csányi wrote: On 22 July 2013 21:57, Michael Hampicke wrote: Am 22.07.2013 17:02, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: ConsoleKit is for all practical purposes unmaintained, and all of the packages you mentioned it support systemd just fine. Emerge systemd, and purge CK from

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/07/13 09:54, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 23/07/13 08:43, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 23/07/13 00:46, Mark David Dumlao wrote: This would be a lot less of an issue if someone just wrote a logind ebuild (wink wink) that provides consolekit like it was originally intended. not possible

Re: [gentoo-user] [Preliminary report] Gnome-3.8 update works with openrc :)

2013-07-30 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 30/07/13 04:13, Mark David Dumlao wrote: walt, are you using pam_systemd? I have a hunch that systemd-logind should still work. nope, logind no longer works with anything else than systemd since 205 we have given up on logind+openrc, that's why gnome also now pulls in systemd at portage

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-01 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 01/08/13 19:28, Tanstaafl wrote: Hi all, Ok, rehashing this, but please don't turn it into another udev vs systemd thread. I have an older server that I have been putting off this update, debating on whether to update to the regular udev, or to eudev. I've googled until my fingers are blue,

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-01 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/08/13 00:49, Dale wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: On 01/08/13 19:28, Tanstaafl wrote: Hi all, Ok, rehashing this, but please don't turn it into another udev vs systemd thread. I have an older server that I have been putting off this update, debating on whether to update to the re

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-01 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/08/13 02:27, William Kenworthy wrote: On 02/08/13 00:28, Tanstaafl wrote: Hi all, Ok, rehashing this, but please don't turn it into another udev vs systemd thread. I have an older server that I have been putting off this update, debating on whether to update to the regular udev, or to eu

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-01 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/08/13 03:19, William Kenworthy wrote: On 02/08/13 07:42, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 02/08/13 02:27, William Kenworthy wrote: On 02/08/13 00:28, Tanstaafl wrote: Hi all, Ok, rehashing this, but please don't turn it into another udev vs systemd thread. I have an older server that I

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-01 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/08/13 04:01, Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 02:42:36AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote nope, you just believed all the FUD there has been out there. i've said it many times, and i'll say it again: the only real different is USE="rule-generator" and that&#x

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-01 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/08/13 05:48, Dale wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: Huh? USE="firmware-loader" is optional and enabled by default in sys-fs/udev Futhermore predictable network interface names work as designed, not a single valid bug filed about them. Stop spreading FUD. Looking forward to lastr

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-01 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/08/13 06:14, Dale wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: On 02/08/13 05:48, Dale wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: Huh? USE="firmware-loader" is optional and enabled by default in sys-fs/udev Futhermore predictable network interface names work as designed, not a single valid bug filed

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-01 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/08/13 08:28, Dale wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: On 02/08/13 06:14, Dale wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: On 02/08/13 05:48, Dale wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: Huh? USE="firmware-loader" is optional and enabled by default in sys-fs/udev Futhermore predictable network interface

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/08/13 09:06, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 6:17 AM, William Kenworthy wrote: On 02/08/13 11:01, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 02/08/13 05:48, Dale wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: Huh? USE="firmware-loader" is optional and enabled by default in sys-fs/udev

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-05 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 04/08/13 05:56, Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 05:02:39AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote Looking forward to lastrite sys-fs/eudev just like sys-apps/module-init-tools already was removed as unnecessary later on. You want eudev removed, and Lennart Poettering wants udev on non

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-05 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 05/08/13 13:27, Marc Stürmer wrote: Why is was forked you ask? Because of the predictable Name stuff and some People disliked the attitude of the udev programmer which was "either my way or the high way." aside choice is always Good to have so in the end IT was bound to happen sooner or later

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-06 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 07/08/13 03:38, walt wrote: I was so hot to prove to myself that I could do the Big Update on both systemd and openrc gentoo machines that I didn't spend much time actually *using* gnome-3.8 until yesterday. Have you ever lived or worked in a building during a big remodeling? With most of you

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-07 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 07/08/13 05:25, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Tue, Aug 06 2013, Samuli Suominen wrote: that's only because gnome 3.8 hasn't been stabilized yet. as in, there are no plans in keeping gnome 2.x available after gnome 3.8 stabilization. Am I correct in believing that gnome-3.8 (

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 09/08/13 01:59, walt wrote: On 08/07/2013 06:17 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: And in particular, all the GNOME stack includes their necessary unit files. That's good to know. The only reason I haven't already made the switch to systemd is lvm2 -- I just couldn't puzzle out how to get lvm2

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-10 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 05/08/13 23:18, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 10:24:27 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: But there's not a lot of point as eudev isn't that different to udev now, AFAICT, and a recent update forced me to switch back to udev because eudev hadn't been updated (on ~amd64). Can you elaborate

Re: [gentoo-user] Swap is manually 'swapon-able' but not via fstab...?

2013-08-10 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 10/08/13 17:36, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, When I do a beagleboneblack:/root>swapon /dev/sda2 beagleboneblack:/root>free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:507476 50812 456664 0 13108 17

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-10 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 11/08/13 08:36, Walter Dnes wrote: On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 09:57:52AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote I expect it to happen around every new udev release that causes slight incompability; the default of the virtual/udev, sys-fs/udev, doesn't have to wait for the alternative providers.

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.6 just sits there.

2013-08-11 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 11/08/13 20:12, Dale wrote: I notice this starts but never does anything. I end up doing a ctrl c to stop it. I tried with two different versions of portage so I don't think it is portage itself. But it is. It's either Portage, or Python it's using itself. But it's not about sys-auth/c

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-11 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 11/08/13 21:13, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 11:52:26 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: but the issue here was eudev *not* being updated when the virtual was, and both cause and result were quite clear. Right, but I was talking about not updating *anything* related to any mission critica

Re: [gentoo-user] about LIBRARY_PATH

2013-08-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 12/08/13 05:49, 东方巽雷 wrote: It seems that this variable is hard-code by gcc.I cannot change it any more.When I use gcc -m32 to compile a 32bit program,gcc is looking for /usr/lib rather than /usr/lib32.But in my system,/usr/lib is a symlink to /usr/lib64.The real 32bit librarys is in /usr/lib3

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 12/08/13 13:19, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-08-11 2:38 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 11/08/13 21:13, Neil Bothwick wrote: There was a blocker (small b) because virtual/udev needed sys-fs/udev and that gave a blocker that uninstalled eudev. I believe it's 'b' if user does

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 12/08/13 14:37, hasufell wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/02/2013 05:01 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 02/08/13 05:48, Dale wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: Huh? USE="firmware-loader" is optional and enabled by default in sys-fs/udev Futhermore predictab

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 12/08/13 15:17, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-08-12 8:06 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: True, it won't be dropped for long as people are maintaining it. That's how maintainership works. But trying to lie to people it's somehow solving something currently is annoying as 'ell and

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 12/08/13 15:19, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-08-12 8:06 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: True, it won't be dropped for long as people are maintaining it. That's how maintainership works. But trying to lie to people it's

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 12/08/13 15:38, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 12/08/13 15:17, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-08-12 8:06 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: True, it won't be dropped for long as people are maintaining it. That's how maintainership works. But

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 12/08/13 16:39, hasufell wrote: On 08/12/2013 02:06 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 12/08/13 14:37, hasufell wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/02/2013 05:01 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 02/08/13 05:48, Dale wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: Huh? USE="firmware-l

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Advice needed regarding udisks

2013-08-19 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 17/08/13 22:00, Grant wrote: This is actually a portage question. How can I install udisks-2 in a way that will fix this problem? I'm confused by how to handle the slotting behavior. I think the issue here is that we are not understanding what the problem is. It happens with an application

Re: [gentoo-user] re: xfce4-sensors-plugin pulling in nvidia-settings

2013-08-22 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 22/08/13 22:03, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 08/22/2013 09:59 PM, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: As I figured in the package's changelog, some work on it is being done by Samuli Suominen . He is also on this list, so I guess he could get involved as soon as he reads the list. Understood. T

Re: [gentoo-user] re: xfce4-sensors-plugin pulling in nvidia-settings

2013-08-22 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 22/08/13 22:22, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: What course of action would you recommend taking with regard to my original post? I'm not sure if I understand your problem but... Looks like nvidia-drivers-319.32 was stabilized without stabilizing nvidia-settings-319.32 together with it. You can f

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Advice needed regarding udisks

2013-08-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 20/08/13 09:21, Grant wrote: This is actually a portage question. How can I install udisks-2 in a way that will fix this problem? I'm confused by how to handle the slotting behavior. I think the issue here is that we are not understanding what the problem is. It happens with an applicatio

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Advice needed regarding udisks

2013-08-24 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 24/08/13 08:39, Grant wrote: Just saying you should be using `udisksctl` command instead of the now obsolete `udisks` command udisksctl command = new udisks 2 udisks command = old udisks 1 OK, but first I need to figure out how to get gvfs to use udisks instead of gdu. by emerging gnome-b

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 27/08/13 09:24, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, wrote: Hi. I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I have not been a

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM2+mdraid5+LUKS+systemd (was Re: LVM2+mdraid+systemd)

2013-09-25 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/09/13 17:37, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sep 23, 2013 6:01 AM, "Tanstaafl" mailto:tansta...@libertytrek.org>> wrote: > > Man... watching this discussion just makes me want to avoid systemd like the plague/all the more... Please don't top post. Please disable HTML from your mail clie

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble downgrading systemd and virtual/udev

2013-09-25 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 26/09/13 04:30, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 5:24 PM, wrote: I want to downgrade systemd from 207-r2 to 204 (highest stable). I currently have virtual/udev-206-r2 installed, which prevents systemd-204. OK. So I need to downgrade virtual/udev to 200. I thought e

Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives

2013-10-06 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 07/10/13 00:01, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 07:01:09PM +0300, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: I want to be able auto-mount removable drives. I'm running xfce: box0=; equery list xfce-base/xfce4-meta * Searching for xfce4-meta in xfce-base ... [IP-] [ ] xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4

Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives

2013-10-08 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 08/10/13 20:19, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:45 PM, victor romanchuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:36 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: Thanks for your responses. I'm sorry I forgot to mention that I do have xfce4-mount-plugin installed. box0=; equery list '*xfce*'|grep mount xfce-extra/x

Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives

2013-10-08 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 08/10/13 21:55, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 10/08/2013 09:21 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 08/10/13 20:19, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:45 PM, victor romanchuk wrote: On 10/07/2013 11:36 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: Thanks for your responses. I'm sorry I forgot to me

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-20 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 20/10/13 09:34, Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 10/19/2013 06:35 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> Am 19.10.2013 17:02, schrieb Daniel Campbell: >>> On 10/17/2013 11:27 PM, Mark David Dumlao wrote: https://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/200-libby-clark/733595-all-about-the-linux-kernel-cgr

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-20 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 20/10/13 12:24, Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 10/20/2013 02:37 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> On 20/10/13 09:34, Daniel Campbell wrote: >>> On 10/19/2013 06:35 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>>> Am 19.10.2013 17:02, schrieb Daniel Campbell: >>>>> On

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-20 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 20/10/13 13:47, Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 10/20/2013 04:55 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> On 20/10/13 12:24, Daniel Campbell wrote: >>> On 10/20/2013 02:37 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >>>> On 20/10/13 09:34, Daniel Campbell wrote: >>>>> On 10

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-20 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 20/10/13 17:01, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-10-20 9:02 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> On 20/10/13 13:47, Daniel Campbell wrote: >>> Like I mentioned in a prior e-mail, the change didn't affect me when it >>> was pushed, and doesn't affect me now. I did

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-20 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 20/10/13 17:01, Tanstaafl wrote: > >> It's true that sys-fs/eudev restored the *broken* rule_generator from >> old sys-fs/udev, you can get it by USE="rule-generator". >> But it's lot saner to keep using sys-fs/udev and just write custom rules >> to rename interfaces based on MACs to like lan*,

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 21/10/13 05:34, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 05:03:51PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote > >> That's a bridge we will cross when there is a bridge to be crossed, but >> from top of my head: >> We will maintain a minimal patchset that reverts the offend

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 21/10/13 08:31, Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 10/20/2013 09:34 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 05:03:51PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote >> >>> That's a bridge we will cross when there is a bridge to be crossed, but >>> from top of my head: &

Re: [gentoo-user] modules.devname not found...

2014-07-29 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 29/07/14 20:22, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:25:15 +0200, Jarry wrote: > >> >> * Creating list of required static device nodes for the current >> kernel... Warning: /lib/modules/3.12.21-gentoo-r1/modules.devname not >> found - ignor >> >> What does it mean and

Re: [gentoo-user] a question about updating process

2014-07-31 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 29/07/14 14:50, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 29/07/2014 13:45, behrouz khosravi wrote: >> Thanks every one. >> >> I guess I got it know ! >> And I must say that the way Gentoo is working now, is simple, no doubts. >> >> And I am surprised to hear that Gentoo is so strict to follow upstream. >> I g

Re: [gentoo-user] re: sys-fs/lvm2 question

2014-08-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/08/14 09:53, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 1:47 AM, Alexander Kapshuk > wrote: >> On 08/22/2014 10:36 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Alexander Kapshuk >>> wrote: As I updated my system today, I noticed that 'sys-fs/lvm2' got

Re: [gentoo-user] blocker between openrc and procps

2014-08-24 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 24/08/14 13:40, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > J. Roeleveld [14-08-24 12:36]: >> On 24 August 2014 11:23:34 CEST, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: >>> Alan McKinnon [14-08-24 10:32]: On 24/08/2014 04:30, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > hi, > > How can I resolve this blocker: > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Execute udev rule before net.* scripts

2014-08-24 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 24/08/14 15:59, Grant wrote: > I'm trying to define names for my USB network interfaces keyed on the > interface location instead of the interface MAC address. This udev > rule renames one of them: > > SUBSYSTEM=="net", KERNEL=="enp3s0u1", NAME="net0" > > But it doesn't work automatically at b

Re: [gentoo-user] Execute udev rule before net.* scripts

2014-08-24 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 24/08/14 20:05, Tom H wrote: > On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Grant wrote: >> I'm trying to define names for my USB network interfaces keyed on the >> interface location instead of the interface MAC address. This udev >> rule renames one of them: >> >> SUBSYSTEM=="net", KERNEL=="enp3s0u1", N

Re: [gentoo-user] xscreensaver - error missing "bc"

2014-09-14 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 14/09/14 18:46, Joseph wrote: > I get a strange error when trying to emerge xscreensaver" > > checking for bc... no > > configure: error: Your system doesn't have "bc", which has been a > standard > part of Unix since the 1970s. Come back when your > vendor >

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-16 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 17/09/14 03:01, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 09/16/2014 03:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> For some reason xfce-power-manager-1.3.1 does not satisfy what the local >> install needs but 1.3.0 does. So portage wants to make it so. >> > Version 1.3.1 was removed from the tree, leaving only 1.3.0 to

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge output: [ebuild UD ]

2014-09-17 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 17/09/14 16:16, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> On 17/09/14 03:01, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >>> On 09/16/2014 03:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>>> For some reason xfce-power-manager-1.3.1 does not satisfy wha

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-17 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 17/09/14 23:43, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am 17.09.2014 um 21:52 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann >> wrote: >>> Am 17.09.2014 um 21:02 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-17 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 18/09/14 03:12, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > Mark David Dumlao wrote: >> The code is out there. Freely available. Both systemd and sysvinit. >> If you wanted to measure both, you could, literally, in the time it >> took since you first posted in this thread till now you could have >> measured seve

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-17 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 18/09/14 07:52, Samuli Suominen wrote: > Notably Gentoo has never used entire SysV, only the init part, not the > /etc.d/rc.d part I meant /etc/rc.d of course. Typing error. Sorry.

Re: [gentoo-user] udev (viable) alternatives ?

2014-09-25 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 25/09/14 18:25, James wrote: > Ok, > > So I have used eudev before, without issue before. Things are moving along > so now I see an udev-215 upgrade to udev-261 on a system running lxde. > I intend to migrate this system to lxqt in the next few weeks, after > I build up a new workstation. > > S

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev (viable) alternatives ?

2014-09-25 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 25/09/14 22:03, James wrote: > Samuli Suominen gentoo.org> writes: > > >>> Any other caveats (short term) on switching udev to eudev? >> in fact, from what I last checked, eudev's networking is at same level >> with udev-208, from time before the .link s

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev (viable) alternatives ?

2014-09-26 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 26/09/14 11:22, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 3:07 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 05:27:15 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> I buy machines with one ethernet interface. What I find particularly annoying is this doublespeak about calling it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev (viable) alternatives ?

2014-09-26 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 26/09/14 11:47, Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 26/09/14 11:22, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 3:07 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 05:27:15 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> >>>>> I buy machines with one ethernet

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev (viable) alternatives ?

2014-09-26 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 26/09/14 19:47, David W Noon wrote: > On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 12:04:47 +0300, Samuli Suominen > (ssuomi...@gentoo.org) wrote about "Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev (viable) > alternatives ?" (in <54252c2f.1030...@gentoo.org>): > > [snip] >> Later kernels *can mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /dev/ttyUSB* group changed from uucp to root?

2014-09-26 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 26/09/14 20:59, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Grant Edwards > wrote: >> Which sets the group to 0 (root). The weird thing is that I don't >> know where that file came from. Dong an "equery belongs" doesn't show >> it belonging to any package. I do have dev-embedded/

Re: [gentoo-user] mpeg4ip - replacement

2014-10-24 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 25/10/14 02:40, Joseph wrote: > Which application replaced "mpeg4ip" ? > > I'm trying to streem mpeg4 video and in the past I was using "mpeg4ip" > but I can not find it. > > -- > Joseph > media-video/gpac has extended mpeg4 support media-libs/libmp4v2 with USE="utils" has command lines utili

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev (viable) alternatives ?

2014-11-10 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 10/11/14 13:04, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 9/26/2014 1:04 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> On 25/09/14 22:03, James wrote: >>> I'd be better of with a fresh install of lilblue + musl + eudev >>> is what you are really saying here? >> that's the only usec

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev (viable) alternatives ?

2014-11-10 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 11/11/14 07:20, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 05:48:49PM +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote > >> I wouldn't worry about it at all, there is no way *sys-fs/udev ebuild* >> will ever need systemd. There might be a news item later, with >> instructions on

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.20 and intel microcode

2014-11-10 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 11/11/14 05:49, micro...@fedoraproject.org wrote: > I've finnally detected the root cause of glibc-2.20 broken my system: > glibc-2.20 start using TLX instruction which is disabled by microcode update. > > disabling microcode update brings my system back to live! > > so, there is either a bug

Re: [gentoo-user] Do I require static nodes?

2013-11-30 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 27/11/13 12:22, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: > 2013/11/27 Chris Stankevitz > > > Hello, > > Portage recently told me this: > > * You need to add kmod-static-nodes to the sysinit runlevel for > * kernel modules to have required static nodes! >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE slow / console-kit-daemon POLKIT_IS_AUTHORITY failed

2014-01-16 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 16/01/14 19:39, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 10:19:22 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > Helmut is still using consolekit. Are you still using consolekit? >>> Yes, it's the default for kdm so it is enabled on both computers. >> I don't think it will be the default for m

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE slow / console-kit-daemon POLKIT_IS_AUTHORITY failed

2014-01-20 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 19/01/14 23:31, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 23:45:00 +, Mick wrote: > >> This thread confused me. I have this in my system and I have not >> changed the permissions from when it was installed: >> >> ls -la /usr/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper >> -rws--x--- 1 root messagebu

Re: [gentoo-user] ttyS0 - ownership as root:dialout

2014-01-20 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 20/01/14 18:45, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 01/20/14 18:30, Joseph wrote: >> After upgrade to "systemd" my /dev/ttyS0 shows up as: root:dialout >> ownership and permission 600 >> >> When I change as root manually to: chown uucp:dialout /dev/ttyS0 >> chmod 666 /dev/ttyS0 >> >> after restart it goe

Re: [gentoo-user] [poll] What is your session state?

2014-02-10 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 10/02/14 00:43, walt wrote: > Recent threads about consolekit vs logind(systemd) have made me curious, so > I've been studying... > > A few of us have had recent problems with things like plugging USB sticks, > which once worked transparently but now require root privileges. > > I've discovered

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-16 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 16/02/14 18:41, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 16/02/2014 17:46, Tanstaafl wrote: >> On 2014-02-15 3:32 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>> For Slackware, I have no idea. For Debian, no the only options were[1]: >>> >>> 1. sysvinit (status quo) >>> 2. systemd >>> 3. upstart >>> 4. openrc (experiment

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-16 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 16/02/14 23:28, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 16/02/2014 20:11, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> On 16/02/14 18:41, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> On 16/02/2014 17:46, Tanstaafl wrote: >>>> On 2014-02-15 3:32 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>>>> For Slackware, I

Re: [gentoo-user] Peeve - finding kernel config options

2014-02-27 Thread Samuli Suominen
am I missing something? >>> >>> Given the most recent gentoo news item: >>> >>>> # eselect news read 10 >>>> 2014-02-25-udev-upgrade >>>> Title Upgrade to >=sys-fs/udev-210 >>>> Author

Re: [gentoo-user] Peeve - finding kernel config options

2014-02-27 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 27/02/14 21:49, Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 27/02/14 19:24, Dan Johansson wrote: >> On 26.02.2014 22:24, Poison BL. wrote: >>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Tanstaafl >>> wrote: >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> This is for those o

Re: [gentoo-user] Peeve - finding kernel config options

2014-02-27 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 27/02/14 22:33, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 18:24:50 +0100, Dan Johansson wrote: > >> But if you press "1" in the example above you will "jump" directly to >> the menu item. Clue --> (1) > Damn you, why didn't you let us in on this secret year ago? > > because Linux 3.8'ish wasn

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-28 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 28/02/14 08:47, Stroller wrote: > On Wed, 26 February 2014, at 8:29 pm, Walter Dnes > wrote: >> … >> * Netscape (under AOL) aimed at becoming a pseudo-OS on top of Windows. >> We know how that turned out. > You appear to be underestimating it - whilst the AOL suite was hated by many > of t

Re: [gentoo-user] custom boost in /usr/local = problem with libkolabxml, libixion

2014-03-01 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 01/03/14 13:23, Kacper Kopczyński wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > I've installed newest boost into /usr/local - it's a custom > installation and not via emerge/portage. > > > > Today, after upgrading system, I've found that I need to use > > > > emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps

Re: [gentoo-user] more bluetooth troubles with 5.14

2014-03-03 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 03/03/14 21:21, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Mick wrote: > >> On Sunday 02 Mar 2014 13:05:10 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: >> >>> I don't even have any /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf. >> What do you have in your /etc/conf.d/bluetooth? This is mine: >> = >> # Bluetoo

Re: [gentoo-user] python-updater: updating cracklib forever...

2014-03-06 Thread Samuli Suominen
http://bugs.gentoo.org/503648 for stabilization of 2.9.1 which has been migrated to the new python eclasses, should solve many of the python related cracklib problems

Re: [gentoo-user] CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND: is not set when it should be

2014-03-18 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 19/03/14 04:22, Joseph wrote: > I'm getting a message from sys-fs/udisks > ERROR: setup > CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND: is not set when it should be. > WARN: setup > > I checked my kernel config there is not such options: CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND > It's only checked for older kernels than 3.10 by the 'ke

[gentoo-user] Stabilization of netifrc-0.2.2, "extra testers wanted"

2014-04-07 Thread Samuli Suominen
Extra testers requested for netifrc-0.2.2 stabilization, also, if you know a reason this shouldn't go stable, like regression from 0.1, speak up now. See, http://bugs.gentoo.org/507070 (I'm purposely special casing this package over others like this.) - Samuli

Re: [gentoo-user] Stabilization of netifrc-0.2.2, "extra testers wanted"

2014-04-07 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 08/04/14 04:27, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 04/07/2014 04:08 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> Extra testers requested for netifrc-0.2.2 stabilization, also, if you >> know a reason this shouldn't go stable, like >> regression from 0.1, speak up now. >> >&

Re: [gentoo-user] cpufrequtils can't find expected /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq

2014-04-24 Thread Samuli Suominen
cpufreqd, cpufrequtils are both dead packages for years now, it's propably cpupower you want instead, the only package getting updated for constantly changing paths in /sys On 24/04/14 09:27, Walter Dnes wrote: > I'm finishing up on installing Gentoo on a laptop. I tried testing > cpufrequtil

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