Folks
Earlier comments on this thread contained lots of speculation about what people
think about SRM/geo.
We recently submitted a paper that has some of the first results from a
high-quality surveys of public perception. (Where for a survey,
high-quality=that is big numbers, good demographic
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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 2:27:37 AM
Subject: RE: [geo] HOME/ETC Group Targets IPCC
I oppose vehemently the statement: Developed countries don't want to pay up
(especially since many developing countries have corrupt regimes)
This has holier-than-thou attitude and is only to harden
,
reforestation, etc. play their solutions as well.
Kr, Albert
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 22:05:17 -0400
Subject: Re: [geo] HOME/ETC Group Targets IPCC
From: holly.jean.b...@gmail.com
To: voglerl...@gmail.com
CC: geoengineering@googlegroups.com
Hi Michael,
Thanks for all your useful comments
Hi Folks,
Holly, I read your media assessment paper and found it a pleasure to see
such thought put into the subject. The concept of GE is in need of this type
of insight now and for sometime to come. Your paper can be viewed as a good
indicator as to how well the message is being reieved. I
Ken, I highly agree with your management philosophy on this issue. Any
organized effort along these lines should be as passive as possible and not
be a news maker but a respected news reporter. Also, any organization which
takes on this role will be a focal point for fringe attacks and thus will
Hi Michael,
Thanks for all your useful comments; there is a lot I want to address about
them.
- Michael writes: I would also like to comment on your statement; *I
see our root problems as poor land use, socio-economic systems that depend
on fossil-fuel combustion, and uneven
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Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 10:42
Subject: Re: [geo] HOME/ETC Group Targets IPCC
And lest you forget, ETC blew off Asilomar (as did Ken) rather
hypocritically, citing funding reasons when that had nothing to do with it.
So they had an opportunity to participate
holly.jean.b...@gmail.com, rongretlar...@comcast.net
Cc: geoengineering@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 6:21:47 AM
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Strategies shouldn't be assessed on their ability to modify the temperature,
as the temperature isn't really our problem
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*Sent: *Monday, June 20, 2011 6:21:47 AM
*Subject: *Re: [geo] HOME/ETC Group Targets IPCC
Strategies shouldn't be assessed on their ability to modify the
temperature, as the temperature isn't really our problem.
Tell that to the ice.
- Original Message
It doesn't need a lot of money to do do this.
Some time ago I suggested a formal membership organisation, which would be
the obvious focus for media attention
At the time ken argued against the idea, and it seemed to die at that point.
Is there now any support for establishing a geoengineering
Needless consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds.
It might be good if done well.
I think key would be being as centrist and reasonable as possible. Make as few
claims as possible as an organization. Make sure all such statements of the
organization are well-founded and board approved.
The IMechE and the Royal Society in the UK would be a good place to
start - they both have independent credibility.
Perhaps Prof. Shepperd would be willing to make the geoengineering
ctte permanent?
A
On 19 June 2011 15:55, Ken Caldeira kcalde...@gmail.com wrote:
Needless consistency is the
*To: *rongretlar...@comcast.net
*Cc: *geoengineering@googlegroups.com
*Sent: *Friday, June 17, 2011 6:12:01 AM
*Subject: *Re: [geo] HOME/ETC Group Targets IPCC
Hi All,
A few brief thoughts on geoengineering representation in the news media,
after spending a few years writing a master's thesis
I do think it would be useful if there were a media savvy organization with
a strong internationalist perspective that would in a responsible way
advocate for the need to pursue a broad spectrum of approaches to reduce
climate risk.
I listened to an interesting podcast on the history of blood
: Holly Buck holly.jean.b...@gmail.com
To: rongretlar...@comcast.net
Cc: geoengineering@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 6:12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [geo] HOME/ETC Group Targets IPCC
Hi All,
A few brief thoughts on geoengineering representation in the news media, after
spending
Hi Folks,
Ken, on the issue of media support, what about a new website;
As this group knows, the issue of GE has a need for broad public education
on the many important issues within the general topic. An established PR
firm would be a good investment at this time. Yet, who and what will the
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 6:19
Subject: Re: [geo] HOME/ETC Group Targets IPCC
The IPCC meeting as I understand it, is simply to consider the efficacy of
some of the proposed technological alternatives to emissions reductions,
i.e., geoengineering. It is not to adopt or endorse action plans based
To: Geoengineering Geoengineering@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:56:11 AM
Subject: Re: [geo] HOME/ETC Group Targets IPCC
Dear Everyone,
This discussion seems to ignore the purpose of IPCC. The job of IPCC is
to assess peer-reviewed literature on the subject of climate change
*From: *Alan Robock rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu
*To: *Geoengineering Geoengineering@googlegroups.com
*Sent: *Friday, June 17, 2011 8:56:11 AM
*Subject: *Re: [geo] HOME/ETC Group Targets IPCC
Dear Everyone,
This discussion seems to ignore the purpose of IPCC. The job of IPCC is
to assess peer
. It answers to the UN, not whoever shows up with an axe
to grind.
- Original Message -
From: Alvia Gaskill agask...@nc.rr.com
To: andrew.lock...@gmail.com
Cc: geoengineering@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 6:19
Subject: Re: [geo] HOME/ETC Group Targets IPCC
The IPCC
Hi Folks,
Andrew, I think your proposed letter to the IPCC countering the ETC et.alia
Open Letter should be the main focus. However, I will start compiling a
contact info list of the signers if a direct response letter is to be
prepared. The points which Ken offers are a great rallying flag
, June 15, 2011 5:08 AM
To: geoengineering
Subject: [geo] HOME/ETC Group Targets IPCC
Here is the latest salvo from the HOME campaign, this time targeting
the IPCC expert group on geoengineering meeting in Peru:
http://www.handsoffmotherearth.org/2011/06/lettertoipcc/
Josh Horton
To: geoengineering
Subject: [geo] HOME/ETC Group Targets IPCC
Here is the latest salvo from the HOME campaign, this time targeting
the IPCC expert group on geoengineering meeting in Peru:
http://www.handsoffmotherearth.org/2011/06/lettertoipcc/
Josh Horton
joshuahorton...@gmail.com
...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 5:08 AM
To: geoengineering
Subject: [geo] HOME/ETC Group Targets IPCC
Here is the latest salvo from the HOME campaign, this time targeting
the IPCC expert group on geoengineering meeting in Peru:
http://www.handsoffmotherearth.org/2011/06
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 5:25
Subject: Re: [geo] HOME/ETC Group Targets IPCC
Suggested wording, for amendment and endorsement.
A
We the undersigned represent a selection of the scientists, engineers
and social policy experts involved in the development of
geoengineering and its governance
Subject: Re: [geo] HOME/ETC Group Targets IPCC
Suggested wording, for amendment and endorsement.
A
We the undersigned represent a selection of the scientists, engineers
and social policy experts involved in the development of
geoengineering and its governance. We write with frustration
]
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 5:08 AM
To: geoengineering
Subject: [geo] HOME/ETC Group Targets IPCC
Here is the latest salvo from the HOME campaign, this time targeting
the IPCC expert group on geoengineering meeting in Peru:
http://www.handsoffmotherearth.org/2011/06/lettertoipcc/
Josh Horton
From: geoengineering@googlegroups.com [geoengineering@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Josh Horton [joshuahorton...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 5:08 AM
To: geoengineering
Subject: [geo] HOME/ETC Group Targets IPCC
Here is the latest salvo from
:08 AM
To: geoengineering
Subject: [geo] HOME/ETC Group Targets IPCC
Here is the latest salvo from the HOME campaign, this time targeting
the IPCC expert group on geoengineering meeting in Peru:
http://www.handsoffmotherearth.org/2011/06/lettertoipcc/
Josh Horton
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