[Gimp-developer] Gimp 2.2 Almost running

2005-10-31 Thread Craig M. Houck
I have /etc/fonts/fonts.conf loading without error or warning (see below for content) and now I get ...  ./gimp-2.2 Bus error a grey window (with a darker gray bar at the bottom) loads immediatly after ./gimp-2.2 for about a 14 count, then the Bus error appears. /etc/fonts/fonts.conf ...

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.2 and Script-Fu/Tiny-Fu.

2004-09-08 Thread William Skaggs
Kevin Cozens wrote: > Replacing Script-Fu with Tiny-Fu could help push Tiny-Fu along a bit > (ie. with translations) if it isn't fully ready yet by exposing it to > more users but what is in the best interest of GIMP and its users? I'm actually quite sympathetic, but it doesn't seem to me that y

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.2 and Script-Fu/Tiny-Fu.

2004-09-08 Thread Alan Horkan
> On another note, I'm not sure this is a desirable goal. splitting > stuff off feels an awful lot like putting it out to pasture. The that does seem like a valid risk to consider > goal of just having the core application, with no plug-ins, no > image data structures, no scripts, and a minimum

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.2 and Script-Fu/Tiny-Fu.

2004-09-08 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, David Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On another note, I'm not sure this is a desirable goal. splitting > stuff off feels an awful lot like putting it out to pasture. The > goal of just having the core application, with no plug-ins, no > image data structures, no scripts, and a minimum nu

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.2 and Script-Fu/Tiny-Fu.

2004-09-08 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, David Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's not just a documentation issue. The fact that perl-fu has > been moved out of the source tree is pretty well documented. It is what? Well documented? I don't think so. You already mentioned yourself what would have to be done to document this pr

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.2 and Script-Fu/Tiny-Fu.

2004-09-08 Thread David Neary
Hi again, Sven Neumann wrote: > I am not going to allow the source tree > to be clobbered with more stuff simply because we are too lazy to add > some simple notes to our web-site and FTP server. In the long run we > will want to split GIMP into even more packages. On another note, I'm not sure t

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.2 and Script-Fu/Tiny-Fu.

2004-09-08 Thread David Neary
Hi Sven, Sven Neumann wrote: > If we want to get rid of > the Script-Fu dependency in the long run, then we need to make it > optional at some point. Now seems to be a good time to do that. It > would allow people who want to switch to Tiny-Fu to install GIMP w/o > Script-Fu while the vast majorit

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.2 and Script-Fu/Tiny-Fu.

2004-09-08 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, David Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Why wouldn't that be the case any longer? It would only be packaged > > in a separate source tree. Of course every GIMP installation would > > include it. > > How would you enfore the dependency? I don't understand how > removing script-fu from the

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.2 and Script-Fu/Tiny-Fu.

2004-09-08 Thread David Neary
Hi, Sven Neumann wrote: > Why wouldn't that be the case any longer? It would only be packaged > in a separate source tree. Of course every GIMP installation would > include it. How would you enfore the dependency? I don't understand how removing script-fu from the source tree and having it presen

[Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.2 and Gimp-Python

2004-09-08 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, while we are talking about Script-Fu and Tiny-Fu, I think we should also bring up the question of what should happen about pygimp. According to Yosh quite some build problems could be solved by having pygimp in it's own source tree. The idea is to use a typical Python build setup instead of a

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.2 and Script-Fu/Tiny-Fu.

2004-09-08 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I fear having to rewrite some of my scripts having already written > gimp 1.2 and gimp 2.0 versions. Compatibility is important to me, > even if only small changes are necessary it causes problems. I dont > relish the prospect of new scripts I write

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.2 and Script-Fu/Tiny-Fu.

2004-09-08 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Nathan Carl Summers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Also, I'll again repeat my objection to the idea that the scheme > extension be packaged separately from GIMP. We have always had > Script-Fu as a universal -- the one scripting system you could count > on for all gimp installations on every

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.2 and Script-Fu/Tiny-Fu.

2004-09-07 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Alan Horkan wrote: > > > Replacing Script-Fu with Tiny-Fu could help push Tiny-Fu along a bit > > (ie. with translations) if it isn't fully ready yet by exposing it to > > more users but what is in the best interest of GIMP and its users? > > I know I'd much prefer another stab

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.2 and Script-Fu/Tiny-Fu.

2004-09-07 Thread Alan Horkan
> Replacing Script-Fu with Tiny-Fu could help push Tiny-Fu along a bit > (ie. with translations) if it isn't fully ready yet by exposing it to > more users but what is in the best interest of GIMP and its users? I know I'd much prefer another stable release with Script-Fu in it first, but that is

[Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.2 and Script-Fu/Tiny-Fu.

2004-09-07 Thread Kevin Cozens
Greetings, all. In a previous message written by Sven about preparing for GIMP 2.2, he wrote the following: Script-Fu vs. Tiny-Fu We should come to a conclusion whether and how Tiny-Fu can replace Script-Fu. I'd suggest we make separate packages gimp-script-fu and gimp-tiny-fu and remove Scrip

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.2

2004-09-06 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, "William Skaggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't disagree with it, but I wish you had mentioned specifically > what I consider the biggest issue of all: bug #143668 (performance > problems with GtkUIManager), which on a slow machine can make GIMP > pause for 20 sec or more each time it

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.2

2004-09-06 Thread William Skaggs
Sven wrote: > Please comment on this proposal if you disagree with it or think there > are important features missing that you are already working on. I don't disagree with it, but I wish you had mentioned specifically what I consider the biggest issue of all: bug #143668 (performance problems

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.2

2004-09-06 Thread Robert L Krawitz
From: Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 06 Sep 2004 17:52:20 +0200 a while ago we decided for a feature freeze for GIMP 2.2 that should have taken effect last week. I haven't enforced this feature freeze yet because there's been some good hacking going on recently and I thin

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.2

2004-09-06 Thread David Odin
On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 05:52:20PM +0200, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > a while ago we decided for a feature freeze for GIMP 2.2 that should > have taken effect last week. I haven't enforced this feature freeze > yet because there's been some good hacking going on recently and I > think we definit

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.2

2004-09-06 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Quoting Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I do think however that we > should give us a little bit more time and try to get the following > done during the next weeks: > > - add more plug-in previews > - try to make the previews scale with the dialog > - implement color management as was

[Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.2

2004-09-06 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, a while ago we decided for a feature freeze for GIMP 2.2 that should have taken effect last week. I haven't enforced this feature freeze yet because there's been some good hacking going on recently and I think we definitely wanted to have these features in 2.2. With the 2.1.4 release, we've re