[Gimp-developer] Gaussian highpass filter

2009-02-10 Thread Daniel Andrei
Hello,
I'm sorry if this is not the proper place to post this , but I have a
question and I hope some of you may be able to help me, so here goes:
I need to apply a gaussian high pass filter on a grayscale image represented
as a pixel matrix.
After doing some reading I understand that I need to a pply a transformation
matrix on each pixel of the image, actually a transformation vector in two
passes, once for the x axis and once for the y axis resulting in something
like(for a row, for example):

transofrmationSum = the sum of the transformationVector elements
for (i=0, ipixels.size; i++) {
   for (j=0, jtranformationVector.size; j++) {
  pixels[i] = pixels[i] +
pixels[i+(j-transformationVector.size/2)]*transformationVector[j]/transformationSum
   }
}

Please tell me if this is correct and how do I compute the transormation
matrix for the gaussian high pass filter.

Thank you,
Daniel
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Silent profile embedding.

2009-02-10 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Sun, 2009-02-08 at 20:03 +0100, Martin Nordholts wrote:

 I agree that someone should sit down and specify exactly how we want
 color management to work before doing major surgery.

Yes. We absolutely need a document that describes the workflows that are
handled by the current implementation. Then we need some test images
that can be used to verify that everything works as it is supposed to.
Any volunteers?

 However, reverting that commit is not major surgery and to me writing an
 sRGB profile in the absence of an embedded profile is just plain wrong.
 If something like that was supposed to done it should at least be the
 RGB profile selected in the Color Management preferences, but even doing
 that would be making hasty assumptions.

Well, choosing a working profile other than sRGB is totally unsupported
and will definitely lead to bad results. But you are correct, the PNG
plug-in is doing the wrong thing here and we should revert that change.
Probably even in also in the gimp-2-6 branch.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Silent profile embedding.

2009-02-10 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 05:52 +0900, Yoshinori Yamakawa wrote:

 See the following image:
 http://cue.yellowmagic.info/softwares/images/gimp_profile_status_comparison.png
 
 In case of using the GIMP and any other softwares, handling the image without 
 color profile is very important.

Ah, I think I understand now. The idea behind your changes is good and
we should implement something like this for 2.8. But the wording you
have chosen in your implementation is very misleading. Untagged RGB
will be confused with tagging for data resources. We should better use a
title like No Embedded Color Profile. And the working space profile is
not used temporarily. We need to find a better phrase to describe that
GIMP uses the default workspace profile due to the fact the the image
has no embedded color profile.


Sven


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[Gimp-developer] Gimp on a Commercial CD-Rom ?

2009-02-10 Thread Jackson Tam
Hi,



I work for a company that is interested in including Gimp on a CD-Rom.
The CD-Rom will also have custom photo frames and clip art. The
inclusion of Gimp is meant to save the effort of downloading the Gimp
software since this product is aimed at kids who may not have internet
access. Can anyone direct me to who I can contact for permission?

 

(Apologies if this is the wrong mailing list. Is there another mailing
list I should post to instead? I didn't want to spam the mailing lists
and thought the developer mailing list was the most logical place).

 

Thanks!

Jack

 

 


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on a Commercial CD-Rom ?

2009-02-10 Thread Tobias Jakobs
Am Dienstag, den 10.02.2009, 16:31 -0500 schrieb Jackson Tam:
 Hi,
 
 I work for a company that is interested in including Gimp on a CD-Rom.
 The CD-Rom will also have custom photo frames and clip art. The
 inclusion of Gimp is meant to save the effort of downloading the Gimp
 software since this product is aimed at kids who may not have internet
 access. Can anyone direct me to who I can contact for permission?

You don't need permission as long as you follow the rules of the
license. As Gimp is under the GPL the most important rule is to add the
source code on the CD too.

Regards,
Tobias

P.S. The Gimp Team is always very thankful for donations. ;)
http://gimp.org/donating/

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[Gimp-developer] Gimp on a Commercial CD-Rom ?

2009-02-10 Thread Jackson Tam
Hi Tobias,

 

Yep, we are planning on making a donation :-). Thanks for the reply and
I hope you could help me with a few more questions. It would be greatly
appreciated.

 

1. Can you tell me what the source code we need to include looks like
specifically? If we were to simply include the Gimp installer (the
setup.exe file), the source code is already packaged inside, right?

 

2. Do you know if this permission applies internationally too? We're
interested in distributing to the US, Mexico, and maybe Europe.

 

3. Is the 2007 GPL the most current?

 

4. And lastly, do I need to contact anyone else besides you? (The
company I work for is a bit afraid of GPL's since there is no direct
contact person. So we want to cover all bases).

 

Thanks for all of your help!

Jack

 

 

 

 


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on a Commercial CD-Rom ?

2009-02-10 Thread Chris Mohler
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Jackson Tam j...@sditech.com wrote:
 Hi Tobias,



 Yep, we are planning on making a donation J. Thanks for the reply and I hope
 you could help me with a few more questions. It would be greatly
 appreciated.

You might find this page (and the entire site, actually) useful:
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html

Chris
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[Gimp-developer] brush rotation - abotu the chanegs on 10-feb-09

2009-02-10 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
Hi,

I am aware that it is a work in progress --
just to let you know (Alexia and others) - the changes in the two commits 
dated 10-feb-2009 got things a lot worse and less natural for me than it was 
before.  

I am nto complainign, I know a lot of tunning is getting in, and I am writing 
this just for feedback while you adjust it.

Now, I f I paint slowly, the brush will suddenly reverse its angle - Also, if 
I mark the direction x angle dynamic, the painting angle does nto feel 
natural, and it felt before - at least when I use a brush that is oriented 
towards up like an up arrow, or the letter A  - both behaviores were 
better previously.

Regards,
js
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on a Commercial CD-Rom ?

2009-02-10 Thread Daniel Hornung
On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Jackson Tam wrote:
 1. Can you tell me what the source code we need to include looks like
 specifically? If we were to simply include the Gimp installer (the
 setup.exe file), the source code is already packaged inside, right?

Unless someone here can give you a better answer, maybe ask the windows 
packager at http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/contact.html .  But sinze 
the ...setup.exe is about the same size as the source code packages 
themselves, I don't think they can be included already.  You can find the 
sources linked from the gimp-win home page (the link named Releases). There 
select the release you're interested in and get the source packages 
(architecture: platform independent, usually just archives in some format), 
gtk+, babl, gegl and gimp, maybe the libexif there  as well.

 2. Do you know if this permission applies internationally too? We're
 interested in distributing to the US, Mexico, and maybe Europe.

The GPL is a license that grant you extra rights (beyond use and those rights 
you have in each country anyway), if you agree to it.  Its creators do their 
best to make it as widely applicable as possible, but, as Chris wrote, have a 
look at their site for more information.

 3. Is the 2007 GPL the most current?

There's no 2007 GPL (only versions, like 2 or 3), the relevant one is the one 
found in the LICENSE and COPYING files in each source package. (AFAIK 
it's version 2 or later for the current releases.)

 4. And lastly, do I need to contact anyone else besides you? (The
 company I work for is a bit afraid of GPL's since there is no direct
 contact person. So we want to cover all bases).

The GPL is kind of an agreement between all the authors (so there cannot be 
just one contact in most cases) of a program and its users.  The authors 
offer the users the GPL's conditions.  If the users accept, they can 
redistribute and copy the program (under these conditions).  If they don't, 
they don't gain the right to copy the software and no harm is done to anyone.  
(You and your company are the users in this case.)  It's your choice to 
either accept the conditions or not.

I am not a lawyer, but that's basically how I understand the GPL and explain 
it to people :)

And there's no reason to be afraid of it, the GPL is not there to restrict 
usage or distribution, but just tries to guarantee this freedom to your 
customers as well.  So as long as you tell them Hey, GIMP is free, just copy 
it and give it to your friends as well if you want. probably nobody will 
bite you.

Daniel


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[Gimp-developer] LGM and development opportunities

2009-02-10 Thread Louis Desjardins
Hi all,

This is an exploratory email for all teams participating at LGM. There are
more questions than answers and everything is in discussion at present time.
In the end we need the input of each team. Here's the punch!

I had a very productive discussion with René Barsalo at the SAT on Monday
about next LGM. Summary:

For next LGM we could have at least two projects working a full day at SAT:
Blender and Hugin. The SAT immersive projection equipment would be available
to both teams for direct work, hacking, presentations, etc.. Starting at
11:00 the day would be followed by a LGM 5 to 7 where all the teams would
gather for a beer.

So far we have thought of Thursday to be that day. So, second day of LGM.

We need to know if this would appeal to the development teams of Hugin and
Blender.

Although I trust this event can only add to the interest of LGM, and also
noting that this is in no way competing with Polytechnique's facilities —
only a big plus to have the SAT in Montreal and to have LGM in Montreal... I
think we need to find out if there are any objection to this proposal.

I ask Blender and Hugin people to step in. Guys! Tell us what you think. To
all other, please do the same! Speak up!

Cheers!

Louis
LGM 2009 main organiser
Montréal GMT -5
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on a Commercial CD-Rom ?

2009-02-10 Thread Alpár Jüttner
 You don't need permission as long as you follow the rules of the
 license. As Gimp is under the GPL the most important rule is to add the
 source code on the CD too.

By the way, isn't it enough to publish it on the net? E.g. one could
provide a link to the gimp website for the original source, plus publish
their modification on their own website (or include only these parts on
the CD)?

The Linux kernel is also GLP, but the majority of Linux CD distributions
does not ship the source.

Regards,
Alpar

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on a Commercial CD-Rom ?

2009-02-10 Thread Alexia Death
On Wednesday 11 February 2009 08:46:26 Alpár Jüttner wrote:
  You don't need permission as long as you follow the rules of the
  license. As Gimp is under the GPL the most important rule is to add the
  source code on the CD too.

 By the way, isn't it enough to publish it on the net? E.g. one could
 provide a link to the gimp website for the original source, plus publish
 their modification on their own website (or include only these parts on
 the CD)?

Pointing to gimp website is not enough. They must provide the version of the 
source, tha binary is built from, from their own servers and yes, link to it 
is enough if they do not wish to use the space on the disk for a tarball. 


 The Linux kernel is also GLP, but the majority of Linux CD distributions
 does not ship the source.
No, but they have to provide it from their repros and they do AFAIK.
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Silent profile embedding.

2009-02-10 Thread Yoshinori Yamakawa
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:24:34 +0100
Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote:

 Untagged RGB will be confused with tagging for data resources.
 We should better use a title like No Embedded Color Profile.

Untagged is used in Adobe Photoshop.
I think that the other phrase may be used, but, individually, I wants
more short phrase.

 And the working space profile is not used temporarily. 
 We need to find a better phrase to describe thatGIMP uses the default 
 workspace profile due to the fact the the image has no embedded
 color profile.

I think that is temporarily *for the image*.
The image and a workspace are less related by the GIMP.
After editing the image, that relation will be lost. When re-opening
the image with the GIMP, the image will be related with the workspace
that specified at the time.

If I use the other phrase, it is as follows:

GIMP assumes that Adobe RGB (1998) (workspace profile) is embedded.

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Yoshinori Yamakawa y...@yellowmagic.info
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