Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP on OS X

2004-09-26 Thread Martin Costabel
Robert L Krawitz wrote: If whoever's maintaining the OS X port of the GIMP is reading this, it's apparently missing a Print plugin. By: Mark Townsend - marktownsend Printing from GIMP, OSX 2004-09-26 09:13 I just hope that the answer to this one is not so obvuous that I will be embarassed. I hav

[Gimp-developer] GIMP on OS X

2004-09-26 Thread Robert L Krawitz
If whoever's maintaining the OS X port of the GIMP is reading this, it's apparently missing a Print plugin. By: Mark Townsend - marktownsend Printing from GIMP, OSX 2004-09-26 09:13 I just hope that the answer to this one is not so obvuous that I will be embarassed. I have been using GIMP Print

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X

2004-02-26 Thread Daniel Rogers
Daniel Egger wrote: On Feb 25, 2004, at 11:27 pm, Daniel Rogers wrote: sysctl -w kern.sysv.shmmax=41943040 sysctl -w kern.sysv.shmmin=1 sysctl -w kern.sysv.shmmni=320 sysctl -w kern.sysv.shmseg=80 sysctl -w kern.sysv.shmall=10240 DUH! How could I possibly forget about sysctl. That doesn't seem t

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X

2004-02-26 Thread Daniel Egger
On Feb 26, 2004, at 5:38 pm, Daniel Rogers wrote: Who knows? Who cares? but you do need to edit /etc/rc to see any effect. Thanks for the explanation. I did just what you told me and retested, but it doesn't have any positive impact on the slowness. Servus, Daniel PGP.sig Description: T

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X

2004-02-26 Thread Daniel Egger
On Feb 25, 2004, at 11:27 pm, Daniel Rogers wrote: sysctl -w kern.sysv.shmmax=41943040 sysctl -w kern.sysv.shmmin=1 sysctl -w kern.sysv.shmmni=320 sysctl -w kern.sysv.shmseg=80 sysctl -w kern.sysv.shmall=10240 DUH! How could I possibly forget about sysctl. That doesn't seem to work though: lucy:~

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X

2004-02-25 Thread Daniel Rogers
On Feb 25, 2004, at 2:12 PM, Daniel Egger wrote: On Feb 25, 2004, at 10:11 am, Sven Neumann wrote: Did you increase the shared memory limit? I am not sure what happens if it the X server hits the limit but I guess it just silently stops allocating more shared memory. Err, I know somewhat how to m

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X

2004-02-25 Thread Daniel Egger
On Feb 25, 2004, at 10:11 am, Sven Neumann wrote: Did you increase the shared memory limit? I am not sure what happens if it the X server hits the limit but I guess it just silently stops allocating more shared memory. Err, I know somewhat how to mess with POSIX SHM in applications but how can I c

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X

2004-02-25 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Daniel Egger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Feb 11, 2004, at 10:51 pm, Nathan Carl Summers wrote: > > > IIRC, didn't early versions of OS X have truly pitiful amounts of > > shared memory available? Perhaps that is the reason. > > So now I recompiled GTK 2.2.4 with SHM and I cannot sense

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X

2004-02-24 Thread Daniel Egger
On Feb 11, 2004, at 10:51 pm, Nathan Carl Summers wrote: IIRC, didn't early versions of OS X have truly pitiful amounts of shared memory available? Perhaps that is the reason. So now I recompiled GTK 2.2.4 with SHM and I cannot sense any difference in behaviour. However scrolling in gnumeric is

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X

2004-02-11 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004, Daniel Egger wrote: > On Feb 11, 2004, at 4:06 pm, Sven Neumann wrote: > > > Daniel recently posted a list of X extensions supported by the Apple > > X11 server. The MIT-SHM extension was part of this list but today I > > found that at least in darwinports gtk2 is compiled with

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X

2004-02-11 Thread Daniel Egger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 11, 2004, at 4:06 pm, Sven Neumann wrote: Daniel recently posted a list of X extensions supported by the Apple X11 server. The MIT-SHM extension was part of this list but today I found that at least in darwinports gtk2 is compiled with the --dis

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X

2004-02-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Daniel recently posted a list of X extensions supported by the Apple X11 server. The MIT-SHM extension was part of this list but today I found that at least in darwinports gtk2 is compiled with the --disable-shm configure option. Does anyone know if fink does this as well? Is there a particula

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X

2004-02-08 Thread Manish Singh
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 05:43:00PM +0100, Daniel Egger wrote: > Meanwhile I've profiled gnumeric while waiting for the scrollwheel > action to catch up and indeed it seems that the scrolling causes a lot > of activity both in GTK and the X server with the activity in the X > server being mostly bli

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X

2004-02-06 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Daniel Egger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I still prefer a decent packagemanagement like the one that > comes with Debian Well, darwinports is a decent package management system just like BSD ports. And from my experience it works better than fink. This is also what everyone else who tr

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X

2004-02-06 Thread Daniel Egger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 6, 2004, at 5:12 pm, Tim Mooney wrote: I haven't played with OS X enough to know, but does its X server support the Render extension? If not, that's probably why GTK+ 2 is slower. number of extensions:28 Apple-DRI Apple-WM BIG-

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X

2004-02-06 Thread Daniel Egger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 6, 2004, at 4:32 pm, Sven Neumann wrote: Checking out a cvs repository and typing "configure; make; make install" doesn't sound too complicated to me. It is, especially when it doesn't work out-of-the-box. Also this is equivalently complicated t

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X

2004-02-06 Thread Tim Mooney
In regard to: Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X, Daniel Egger said (at...: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > > >On Feb 5, 2004, at 10:35 pm, <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann )> >wrote: > >> It helps to a) avoid antialiasing (small effe

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X

2004-02-06 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Daniel Egger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > You will need Darwinports (http://darwinports.opendarwin.org/) but > > IMO darwinports is an improvement over fink. Of course your > > mileage may vary. > > Too complicated to install, at least I did and since I already had > fink I didn't care en

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X

2004-02-06 Thread Daniel Egger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 5, 2004, at 9:26 pm, Sven Neumann wrote: You will need Darwinports (http://darwinports.opendarwin.org/) but IMO darwinports is an improvement over fink. Of course your mileage may vary. Too complicated to install, at least I did and since I alr

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X

2004-02-06 Thread Daniel Egger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 5, 2004, at 10:35 pm, <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann )> wrote: It helps to a) avoid antialiasing (small effect) b) use x fonts (big effect). Thanks for this tip. I'll try installing some high quality X fonts (which is sort of an Oxymo

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X (was: Re: Misnamed structure element in SFScript structure?)

2004-02-06 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann )> writes: > > BTW: In OSX gtk 2 has really sucky rendering performance compared > > to gtk 1. > > The same is true for gtk+ on other X11 platforms (but it's usually > bearable, but very noticable). The biggest offender is font drawing: > Xft is a rat

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X (was: Re: Misnamed structure element in SFScript structure?)

2004-02-05 Thread pcg
On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 06:10:35PM +0100, Daniel Egger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW: In OSX gtk 2 has really sucky rendering performance compared > to gtk 1. The same is true for gtk+ on other X11 platforms (but it's usually bearable, but very noticable). The biggest offender is font drawing:

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X

2004-02-05 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Daniel Egger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Feb 5, 2004, at 7:39 pm, Sven Neumann wrote: > > > Installing gimp2 should be about as easy nowadays. > > Nothing beats: > fink install gimp Well, this beats it: port install gimp2 You will need Darwinports (http://darwinports.opendarwin.org

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X

2004-02-05 Thread Daniel Egger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 5, 2004, at 7:39 pm, Sven Neumann wrote: FWIW I'm using GIMP 1.2 under OS X and suspect that there might be a few freaks who do so, too simply because it's easily to install if there's fink on the machine. Installing gimp2 should be about as ea

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X

2004-02-05 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Daniel Egger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > FWIW I'm using GIMP 1.2 under OS X and suspect that there might be > a few freaks who do so, too simply because it's easily to install > if there's fink on the machine. Installing gimp2 should be about as easy nowadays. > BTW: In OSX gtk 2 has real

[Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X (was: Re: Misnamed structure element in SFScript structure?)

2004-02-05 Thread Daniel Egger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 5, 2004, at 5:20 pm, Sven Neumann wrote: Are there any numbers you can base this statement on? I don't think this assumption is correct. Not that it would matter much but I doubt there are more Win32 GIMP users than Linux GIMP users. I'd also li