On 6 Oct 2001, Daniel Egger wrote:
> Am Die, 2001-10-02 um 19.14 schrieb 1002042874:
>
> > there is probably no need for XML as there are no attributes etc.
>
> If you use XML for texts like tips or dialogparts then attributes
> are being used for specifying the language the text is in.
We can a
Hi,
Daniel Egger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If you use XML for texts like tips or dialogparts then attributes
> are being used for specifying the language the text is in.
>
> A tip might look like this:
> Niemals GIMP schließen
> Never close the GIMP
>
> DIA for instance uses something alik
Hi,
Nathan C Summers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> We can also use XML for its original purpose -- a markup language. Even
> just adding an emphasis tag can allow tip writers to be much more
> expressive.
GTK+-2.0 allows some simple markup to be applied to labels and other
text areas without t
> perhaps I'm imaging something wrong here, but I think graphics would be
> overkill for the tips. Stuff like this belongs to the help pages if you
> ask me. It would probably help to allow links to help pages in the tips
> dialog and it would also be much simpler to implement than text flow
>
On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 11:23:11AM +0200, Sven Neumann wrote:
> > It's a lot more versatile then the header approach with my lovely
> > friend gettext since the information is not spread over several
> > files which need to be generated, compiled and installed. If we had
> > more tips we could ev
On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 02:06:15AM -0600, Nathan C Summers wrote:
> We can also use XML for its original purpose -- a markup language. Even
> just adding an emphasis tag can allow tip writers to be much more
> expressive.
That's an abuse of a tag. is a stylistic tag from the HTML days,
with XM
On Sat, 2001-10-06 at 12:49, Daniel Egger wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 02:06:15AM -0600, Nathan C Summers wrote:
>
> > We can also use XML for its original purpose -- a markup language. Even
> > just adding an emphasis tag can allow tip writers to be much more
> > expressive.
>
> That's an
On 6 Oct 2001, at 12:37, Daniel Egger wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 11:23:11AM +0200, Sven Neumann wrote:
>
> > > It's a lot more versatile then the header approach with my lovely
> > > friend gettext since the information is not spread over several
> > > files which need to be generated, comp
On 5 Oct 2001, at 16:06, Carol Spears wrote:
> Okay, everything I know about XML I learned by osmosis (ie, i slept
> with XML in a Nutshell under my pillow), but XML seems to make sense
> and be a lot less rigid than SGML.
To the contrary, XML is way more rigid than SGML, that is its
defining q
Branko Collin wrote:
> > > The file will get large and akward to edit.
> >
> > In the mentioned case this is not an issue. The tips are pretty small
> > anyways (just compare it to a uncompiled catalogfile) and for plugins
> > this isn't an issue at all.
>
> Someone mentioned how well Dia seemed
Heya Rockwalrus,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-10-06 at 0206.15 -0600):
>
> But I was thinking of adding the ability to have small graphics in the tip
> of the day. Am I the only one that finds it odd that GIMP is an image
> manipulation program, yet the tips are all in text? Even the
> database vis
hi,
some time in the last couple of weeks, i upgraded gimp from
ximian and now i get hard hangs on gimp-1.2.2-ximian.
i kind of suspect it is not gimp's fault, but some other
library like gtk or something, but then the rest of gnome
and all apps work fine as usual, so maybe it is the gimp...
thi
Hi,
Daniel Egger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > It's a lot more versatile then the header approach with my lovely
> > > friend gettext since the information is not spread over several
> > > files which need to be generated, compiled and installed. If we had
> > > more tips we could even categ
Hi,
"Branko Collin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What is 'the header kludge'? I never got that bit.
I'll try to summarize what has been discussed so far. At the moment,
there are two proposed places to store the original english tips.
Either use a C file or a header that would look something
Carlos Puchol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> some time in the last couple of weeks, i upgraded gimp from
> ximian and now i get hard hangs on gimp-1.2.2-ximian.
> i kind of suspect it is not gimp's fault, but some other
> library like gtk or something, but then the rest of gnome
> and all apps work
Am Sam, 2001-10-06 um 14.33 schrieb 1002371616:
> > That wasn't my point. I meant that it might be sensible for tips
> > (instead of introducing the header kludge)
> What is 'the header kludge'? I never got that bit.
To use gettext on has to have a file with C syntax; the idea is
to have a he
Am Sam, 2001-10-06 um 12.51 schrieb 1002365476:
> No prof. You've got it wrong. em means emphasis. It means the text
> should be given some sort of emphasis. The stylesheets then determine
> what that emphasis is. (italics, color change, etc.)
No, is HTMLism. There's no in DocBook for examp
Am Sam, 2001-10-06 um 17.23 schrieb 1002381819:
> Whatever the solution regarding GIMP tips turns out to be, translators
> want to be able to translate them from within po files. I hope everyone
> has agreed on that :)
not really.
> If you go for XML, I'd recommend using intltool. It's a set of
Am Sam, 2001-10-06 um 19.05 schrieb 1002387943:
> > That wasn't my point. I meant that it might be sensible for tips
> > (instead of introducing the header kludge) and for plugin descriptions
> > because it makes them more versatile and not bound to the distribution.
> I was referring to the t
Am Die, 2001-10-02 um 18.57 schrieb 1002041867:
> I'm all for it. I have already considered doing such a change in gimp
> HEAD. I'd favor a separate translation domain for the tips since we
> could avoid to bind to this domain until the tips dialog is actually
> shown. A header file with static
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-10-06 at 1125.23 -0400):
> Didn't Clippy get fired?
Maybe next version should have Wilberpy as helper. The concept image
was nice: "I see you want to draw a straight line".
/me runs
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-10-06 at 1136.51 +0200):
> > I think that small graphics could be used to great effects -- to make your
> > graphic look like , use the bumpmap plugin. OK, it would take a
> > little more text than that to make it work well, but you get the idea.
> perhaps I'm imaging some
Sven,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-10-06 at 1933.28 +0200):
> Hi,
>
> If we really want to use the file in other places (web-sites), someone
> involved there needs to come up with a proposal for the format.
It seems that all any decent site would need would be this:
0
On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 06:06:19PM +0200, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote:
>Maybe next version should have Wilberpy as helper. The concept image
>was nice: "I see you want to draw a straight line".
Or rather: "I see you erase. Let me erase the rest of the image for you,
then save." *g*
On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 07:33:28PM +0200, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> have done it before. I can see at least one more advantages of using an
> external file: The tips don't stay in memory all the time. So we should
> probably go for it.
(just a sidenote: if tips were compiled-in
On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 07:56:15PM +0200, Daniel Egger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> To use gettext on has to have a file with C syntax;
really???
> to have a header file where the original messages are defined and
> then use gettext with that.
which would be easy, nice and probably very small.
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