[Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-28 Thread Luis Diego
I'm sure it will work even better for GIMP, that being said, consider that krita, it's not that known, GIMP is a common thing you hear everywhere(in art sites, photography sites, ps clone, etc). Also there is a big windows-user base(with a nice windows build ready to use), and it's a paing to

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-22 Thread meetthegimp.org
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:52 AM, sam tygier samtyg...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Sven Neumann wrote: Having someone work on GIMP full-time is something entirely different than paying for features. It has my full support. But I am afraid that it will be extremely difficult to find someone capable and

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-16 Thread Jon Senior
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:50:17 +0100 Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote: We most urgently need a developer interested in improving color management. If we have such a developer, we can certainly use such devices. I don't think that I have enough C knowledge here (or specifically, GTK knowledge),

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 08:18 +0100, Martin Nordholts wrote: Personally I would be _encouraged_ to further contribute to GIMP if GIMP had someone working full time. I think it depends on the person... On the other hand, I can also imagine incentives in the form of socks :-), or graphics

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Alexia Death
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net wrote: On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 08:18 +0100, Martin Nordholts wrote: Personally I would be _encouraged_ to further contribute to GIMP if GIMP had someone working full time. I think it depends on the person... On the other hand,

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Jon Senior
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:59:13 +0200 Alexia Death alexiade...@gmail.com wrote: Another thing that developers should at least try to use is screen calibration hardware and color managed process. I personally have never done this bacause of the cost of owning one of the spider devices. I'm not

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote: We often point out to people that GIMP is lacking contributors. Maybe the lack of contributors is a side effect of how the project currently is run with regards to money? About three weeks ago someone told me that he wanted to donate

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 11:59 +0200, Alexia Death wrote: If Gimp aims to be a professional tool, then support for things like decent graphics tablets and extras needs to be there and for it to be there developers need access to the tools. I'm currently trying to scrounge up enough to get

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Sven Neumann
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 11:35 +0100, Jon Senior wrote: I'm not exactly a contributing developer, but I do have access to a Spider and calibrated screens. Are there outstanding issues regarding colour management? I might be able to provide some help here. We most urgently need a developer

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Sven Neumann
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 08:18 +0100, Martin Nordholts wrote: Personally I would be _encouraged_ to further contribute to GIMP if GIMP had someone working full time. Having someone working full time on GIMP would mean that the development speed of GIMP would significantly increase, and it

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Alexia Death
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote: Hi, On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 11:59 +0200, Alexia Death wrote: If Gimp aims to be a professional tool, then support for things like decent graphics tablets and extras needs to be there and for it to be there developers need

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Martin Nordholts
Alexia Death wrote: Why aren't you just asking if you can have this hardware paid from the GIMP account? We are getting several hundred dollars of donations per week and can easily afford buying developers the hardware they need. Well, I didn't know it was an option, and my interest in such

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Martin Nordholts
Martin Nordholts wrote: Well, I didn't know it was an option, and my interest in such device is not limited to just developing gimp, so I've been plotting to get one on my own... But it would help a lot if me and someone else, like Martin or Mitch had the same set, for testing etc purposes.

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Alexia Death
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com wrote: Oh you also proposed to buy one for me or mitch too so we can debug together etc Well I don't think I'll use it very much, it's better to use that money for something else Well, my goal in that was mostly to save

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira
On 2010-01-15 18:02, Alexia Death wrote: Well, I didn't know it was an option, and my interest in such device is not limited to just developing gimp, so I've been plotting to get one on my own... But it would help a lot if me and someone else, like Martin or Mitch had the same set, for testing

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Martin Nordholts
Sven Neumann wrote: Having someone work on GIMP full-time is something entirely different than paying for features. It has my full support. Ok then it seems like we're on the same page, I am also skeptical about bounties for features, there's just to much potential problems with that. /

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Sven Neumann
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 19:17 +0200, Alexia Death wrote: On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com wrote: Oh you also proposed to buy one for me or mitch too so we can debug together etc Well I don't think I'll use it very much, it's better to use that money for

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Paka
* Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org [01-15-10 13:18]: As far as I know the tablet that Mitch owns is a Wacom I (with serial connection). It's the same model that I sent you last year. These tablets were donated by Wacom in 1999 for the first GIMP developer conference. It might make sense to ask

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Alexia Death
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote: As far as I know the tablet that Mitch owns is a Wacom I (with serial connection). It's the same model that I sent you last year. These tablets were donated by Wacom in 1999 for the first GIMP developer conference. That makes

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Friday 15 January 2010, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote: On 2010-01-15 18:02, Alexia Death wrote: Well, I didn't know it was an option, and my interest in such device is not limited to just developing gimp, so I've been plotting to get one on my own... But it would help a lot if me and someone

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Sven Neumann
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 20:31 +0200, Alexia Death wrote: That makes these devices 11 years old and they are amazing. The one you sent me works fine, and with little hackery I even managed to make it hotpluggable using a serial adapter and some custom python to introduce it to my X when it

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-15 Thread Alexia Death
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote: On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 20:31 +0200, Alexia Death wrote: That makes these devices 11 years old and they are amazing. The one you sent me works fine, and with little hackery I even managed to make it hotpluggable using a serial

[Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-14 Thread Sam Tygier
There has recently been much discussion on how long it will take to finish gimp 2.8, and whether donations could speed this up. Krita (KDE's image manipulation program) recently asked its users for €3000 to sponsor one of their old GSOC students to work for 3 months. they raised over €4000

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-14 Thread Sven Neumann
On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 21:38 +, Sam Tygier wrote: There has recently been much discussion on how long it will take to finish gimp 2.8, and whether donations could speed this up. Krita (KDE's image manipulation program) recently asked its users for €3000 to sponsor one of their old GSOC

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-14 Thread bart
I don't think that donations can speed up GIMP development. On the contrary, paying some developers for their work is more likely going to demotivate others. Don't know why this shouldn't work with the GIMP projekt. This works well for TYPO3 and Blender well too. I would help to organize

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-14 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 1/15/10, bart wrote: I don't think that donations can speed up GIMP development. On the contrary, paying some developers for their work is more likely going to demotivate others. Don't know why this shouldn't work with the GIMP projekt. You can't just extrapolate experience of one

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita

2010-01-14 Thread Martin Nordholts
Sven Neumann wrote: I don't think that donations can speed up GIMP development. On the contrary, paying some developers for their work is more likely going to demotivate others. Since I think this is an important issue and since we are not that many developers, we don't need to guess, we can