Re: [Gimp-user] Color temperature modification plugin available!
I am new to writing plugins - am I violating some convention by putting my plugin in Tools/Color Tools? It seems the best category from the point of view of fit, but perhaps I should use Script-Fu/Color Tools/ instead? I don't like the enhance category, as it seems to be very ill-defined (well, all we do is enhancing, isn't it? surely curves is also enhancing...). Others on the list, please feel free to advise. Either way, it's a trivial change for me to do. Luca (sorry for the re-send; I was using the wrong email address) On 12/12/06, Alexander Rabtchevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, it appears exactly where you said. I simply wasn't able to find it there. Luca de Alfaro wrote: This is strange - I defined it so that it goes under Tools/Color Tools for version 1.2 (It used to be Layer/Colors). That's where all the other color manipulation options are... (The script-fu menu seems to be on things other than color manipulation). Can you check which version you are running? Oh btw, I developed this under Gimp 2.2; I have no idea whether other versions of Gimp have different menu arrangements, so that the plugin does not find a home. Let me know... Luca -- With respect Alexander Rabtchevich ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Color temperature modification plugin available!
Hi, On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 23:25 -0800, Luca de Alfaro wrote: This is strange - I defined it so that it goes under Tools/Color Tools for version 1.2 (It used to be Layer/Colors). That's where all the other color manipulation options are... (The script-fu menu seems to be on things other than color manipulation). Only tools should go there and your plug-ins is not a tool (it doesn't live in the toolbox, it doesn't use mouse input from the image window). Please move your plug-in away there to avoid confusion. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] layer grouping
Hi, On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 18:23 -0800, Anthony Ettinger wrote: Is it possible to group layers in Gimp? One problem is linking them, would be nice to link groups and move them independently of each other. Before asking here, you could run a query on our bug-tracker: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86337 Or what about searching the lists archive? Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] layer grouping
On 12/13/06, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 18:23 -0800, Anthony Ettinger wrote: Is it possible to group layers in Gimp? One problem is linking them, would be nice to link groups and move them independently of each other. Before asking here, you could run a query on our bug-tracker: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86337 Or what about searching the lists archive? Sven No offense Sven, but this *is* the gimp-user list. That's the second time I've asked a simple gimp question in the last 2 weeks where someone has told me to go somewhere else instead of posting here. Anyhow, I'll take a look. I wanted to see if there was any existing feature I didn't know about before submitting a new request.. -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] layer grouping
Hi, On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 00:19 -0800, Anthony Ettinger wrote: No offense Sven, but this *is* the gimp-user list. Sorry, but are you trying to say that users are not able to do some research before asking? That's the second time I've asked a simple gimp question in the last 2 weeks where someone has told me to go somewhere else instead of posting here. Well, you are asking frequently asked questions. I don't think that's much appreciated anywhere. Instead of flaming you for this or ignoring your request, you have been told where to find an answer. What's wrong with that? Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] layer grouping
On 12/13/06, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 00:19 -0800, Anthony Ettinger wrote: No offense Sven, but this *is* the gimp-user list. Sorry, but are you trying to say that users are not able to do some research before asking? That's the second time I've asked a simple gimp question in the last 2 weeks where someone has told me to go somewhere else instead of posting here. Well, you are asking frequently asked questions. I don't think that's much appreciated anywhere. Instead of flaming you for this or ignoring your request, you have been told where to find an answer. What's wrong with that? Nothing I guess. -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Color temperature modification plugin available!
Hi, On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 00:08 -0800, Luca de Alfaro wrote: I am new to writing plugins - am I violating some convention by putting my plugin in Tools/Color Tools? It seems the best category from the point of view of fit, but perhaps I should use Script-Fu/Color Tools/ instead? I don't like the enhance category, as it seems to be very ill-defined (well, all we do is enhancing, isn't it? surely curves is also enhancing...). Filters-Colors seems most appropriate for GIMP 2.2. In 2.3 we have done a larger reorganization of the menus and you would probably put it into the toplevel Colors menu there. At some point someone really needs to write a GIMP menu editor so that users can put their favorite plug-ins where they like them best. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Color temperature modification plugin available!
Sven, I've seen you newest image window on the blog. Does it mean there will be no script-fu or even tiny-fu top menu entry at all? Sven Neumann wrote: Filters-Colors seems most appropriate for GIMP 2.2. In 2.3 we have done a larger reorganization of the menus and you would probably put it into the toplevel Colors menu there. At some point someone really needs to write a GIMP menu editor so that users can put their favorite plug-ins where they like them best. Sven -- With respect Alexander Rabtchevich ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Color temperature modification plugin available!
Hi, On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 11:00 +0200, Alexander Rabtchevich wrote: Sven, I've seen you newest image window on the blog. Does it mean there will be no script-fu or even tiny-fu top menu entry at all? Indeed. Well, at least not with the set of plug-ins and scripts that ships with 2.4. Old scripts will still be able to register in the old menu locations and that will cause the respective menu branches to be created. We expect that people will adjust their scripts and plug-ins to the new menu hierarchy sooner or later. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Color temperature modification plugin available!
Von: Luca de Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can you check which version you are running? Oh btw, I developed this under Gimp 2.2; I have no idea whether other versions of Gimp have different menu arrangements They have. The menu layout of 2.3 has changed quite a lot, and there are even some new locations where scripts can register - some of the context menus of e.g. palettes, paths, ... HTH, Michael -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] plugins for photographers
Hi all, I would like to ask photographers which plugins you use and you think are most useful. Actually I use ufraw for RAW conversion and manipulation and resynthesizer for photo retouching. Thank you. Regards, Fabrizio ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] plugins for photographers
I would like to ask photographers which plugins you use and you think are most useful. Actually I use ufraw for RAW conversion and manipulation and resynthesizer for photo retouching. Thank you. There is a useful redeye reducer. Norman ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] plugins for photographers
Hi, Fabrizio I use mainly the next plug-ins on everyday basis: 1. UFRaw to import RAW files with my digital camera. I've created a profile with LProf for my G500 and enjoy natural pleasant colors. 2. fblur - focus blur plug-in to imitate blurriness in out-of-focus areas (boke). 3. refocus (do not mix with refocus-it) plugin to add natural sharpness to images (it uses other technique than sharpening). 4. GREYCstoration - for noise reduction. 5. my script to remove red eye. As for tools, the main ones are: Clone and Heal, new Crop with fixed ratio, dimmed non-selected areas and possible thirds guidelines levels and curves (if the source is jpg, not RAW). What I really miss for in-camera jpegs is advanced WB correction tool. I would like to see gray color picker in WB correction tool, not only in Levels tool. Also I would like the plug-in to be able to take some color from the picture as given color (select a pixel|group of pixels with eye-dropper and enter its desired correct color manually (RGB or HSV)) to recalculate the whole picture. The only difference with gray point selector is the sample is not gray, but has known color. Fabrizio Lippolis wrote: Hi all, I would like to ask photographers which plugins you use and you think are most useful. Actually I use ufraw for RAW conversion and manipulation and resynthesizer for photo retouching. Thank you. Regards, Fabrizio -- With respect Alexander Rabtchevich ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] suggested behaviour change of layer masks
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:43:47 +, David Marrs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to apply the same layer mask to a number of stock photos. In this case the mask is text but it could be anything. I want to get the best image for the mask and this means not only trying different photos but also aligning those photos for best composition. Although this is not implemented yet in the current GIMP, what you are trying to do for your composition could be done easily once masking groups or clipping groups are implemented. This feature, which exists in some other popular image manipulation program, allows you to group several layers and apply a single mask to the whole group. There is an old GIMP enhancement proposal about this feature: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51112 With this feature, you could have all your stock photos as layers in the same masking group and toggle their visibility or reposition them individually while the same mask is always used. I only use GIMP myself but I have seen some designers using that feature in other programs with great efficiency. It is very useful when you are working on a composition and you want to change some masked layers without changing the mask itself. Or vice-versa, when you want to change the mask without having to change several layers using that mask. It is too late to add that feature to GIMP 2.4 and it is probably not appropriate for 2.6 (unless the scope of 2.6 changes significantly) but it would be nice if someone could work on this for GIMP 3.0. -Raphaël ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Color temperature modification plugin available!
Hi, I took Sven's advice, and moved the plug-in to Filters/Colors/Convert Color Temperature. Indeed Sven is right, that is a more logical place, and since the new model going forward is to have plugins register to the appropriate area, rather than script-fu, I went ahead with that. BTW, I like the idea of configurable menus. It would be great if Gimp stored the menu configuration in an easy to locate file (as Gimp does now for most things), making it easy to copy the file from one machine to the other to keep the menus consistent. Best, Luca On 12/13/06, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 11:00 +0200, Alexander Rabtchevich wrote: Sven, I've seen you newest image window on the blog. Does it mean there will be no script-fu or even tiny-fu top menu entry at all? Indeed. Well, at least not with the set of plug-ins and scripts that ships with 2.4. Old scripts will still be able to register in the old menu locations and that will cause the respective menu branches to be created. We expect that people will adjust their scripts and plug-ins to the new menu hierarchy sooner or later. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Bug 119646 – add polygonal selecti on tool
Sven Neumann wrote: And what's the benefit then over using the paths tool? Remember, the goal here is to make it easier to create polygonal selections. You can already do that by using the Polygon mode of the path tool and converting the resulting path to a selection. Sure, you could also do it using vector layers. But does that make it easy? I don't think so. I suppose it depends on how quickly you can make shapes with vectors. If it's about the same as with paths then obviously you're right, but if we're talking Inkscape speeds then it could be useful. I fail to see why the free select tool should be modifed at all. Is it in any way related to the problem at hand? The problem of quickly creating a polygonal selection? You seconded the idea on the bugzilla thread. Perhaps we haven't even figured out yet what the problem is? Would be nice if the people who asked for the polygonal selection tool explained what they would use that tool for. What are common usage scenarios for such a tool? How does it fit into your workflow? Well, I'm not requesting it, but what I got from the bugzilla report - particularly the comic book illustrator - was that users want to be able to switch quickly between drawing straight lines and drawing squiggly lines. In other words, brush-like flexibility but through the select tool. Paths don't draw squiggles and free select doesn't do straight lines. So I'm exploring possible solutions. If a good one can't be found, that's fine by me. Regards, David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] suggested behaviour change of layer masks
Sven Neumann wrote: You need to create a layer mask first, then paste into the layer mask. Thanks, I'll try that. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Bug 119646 – add polygonal select ion tool
Hi, On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 20:00 +, David Marrs wrote: Well, I'm not requesting it, but what I got from the bugzilla report - particularly the comic book illustrator - was that users want to be able to switch quickly between drawing straight lines and drawing squiggly lines. In other words, brush-like flexibility but through the select tool. If that is indeed the common usage scenario, then it might be best if we attempt to integrate this feature into the free select tool. Sounds like something that we needs decent planning and should be targetted for after the 2.4 release. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] plugins for photographers
Ok, I made two plugins (available from the repository): - colortemp: converts the color temperature of an image. You can specify the source temperature in K, or as the temperatue at which a black-body color best matches the selected foreground color. - whitebalance: converts the foreground color to either neutral gray, or to a specified background color. This is similar to grey-point, the difference being that the color transformation can be performed in the linear, rather than in the gamma-corrected, color space, and so may work better for removing color casts. I hope these can be useful to others! I was certainly very much in need for them, and I wonder why I was so lazy to learn script-fu only now (lack of documentation? nah, cannot be it ;-). Luca ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Future of Gimp ?
That's great! I really like that idea :-) operator David Marrs wrote: Anthony Ettinger wrote: On 12/8/06, Jerry Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I light of the Microsoft/Novell agreement and all of this talk about GPL 3, I was just curious if the gimp team has had any discussions on whether they will be moving to GPL 3 whenever it is completed. What are the implications? I haven't read about the MS/Novell GPL 3 thing. There was talk of adding a clause to v3 that would help secure free software against patent trolls in such a way that if Company A promises not to sue Company B for using an infringing algorithm in a GPLed application, that promise has to extend to every user of that application. In other words, if MS promise not to sue Novell over Mono, implicit in that agreement is the promise not to sue me over Mono, regardless of whether I'm running SuSE or something else. Personally, I'm in favour of GPLv3 anyway. All it's doing is closing loopholes that enable distributors to avoid granting me one or more of the freedoms I come to expect from free software. Regards, David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] plugins for photographers
Hi, On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 13:02 -0800, Luca de Alfaro wrote: I hope these can be useful to others! I was certainly very much in need for them, and I wonder why I was so lazy to learn script-fu only now (lack of documentation? nah, cannot be it ;-). So these are actually scripts, not plug-ins? Not that it would make much of a difference. Except that plug-ins often offer a nicer UI with preview. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] plugins for photographers
They are scripts. I am actually glad that the days of coding in C are past me :-) I looked at the code for some plug-ins, and I decided I'd rather not do that! Also, actually, I prefer scripts, as I can move them from machine to machine without a need to recompile (not on all my machines I have a build environment). They seem preferable - to install them, you just drop them into place! I actually think that the combination of a number-crunching core written in C, and control scripts written in interpreted, high-level, languages, and consequently easy to install/modify by users, is a very good paradigm. As a user, I am much more likely to tinker with simple, self-contained scheme scripts, than with .c stuff that needs a whole build environment to compile. Luca On 12/13/06, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 13:02 -0800, Luca de Alfaro wrote: I hope these can be useful to others! I was certainly very much in need for them, and I wonder why I was so lazy to learn script-fu only now (lack of documentation? nah, cannot be it ;-). So these are actually scripts, not plug-ins? Not that it would make much of a difference. Except that plug-ins often offer a nicer UI with preview. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] generate png images with transparent pixel that filled with correct color on viewers do not support transparency
The email subject says it all, though it's very long. I am used to creating png images with transparent pixels/area that I can safely (safe = even work with the worst browser that people call IE) use on the web, the trick is to convert image with transparency to indexed color with less then 256 colors, save the png image. Now another challenge: I use very bright background color on the web for most png-pixel-transparent images, these images look very bad if they are put on dark background. And for one situation I am in now I have to make these images display fine on viewers that do not support transparency, e.g. xview. My png image (with transparent pixels) display on xview with very dark background color, close to black. First I thought it's because white color is not in the color index, and I open gimp to add white color in the index map (verified by adding a single white pixel stored and displayed), and save as png image (when saving, gimp's background color setting is also set to white), and I get a new png image that display very dark red color on xview. I think perhaps it's possible to set what transparent pixel color value in GIMP? How should I set this value? Thanks a lot in advance signature.asc Description: 这是信件的数 字签名部分 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] generate png images with transparent pixel that filled with correct color on viewers do not support transparency
I think perhaps it's possible to set what transparent pixel color value in GIMP? How should I set this value? You should be able to perform an Alpha to Selection, Selection Invert, Edit-Fill with the appropriate color, and then Edit-Clear. You might need to do a colors-threshold on the QuickMask (of the selection) if you only wish to change the color of *fully* transparent pixels. It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit. -- Harry S. Truman ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
