Re: [Gimp-user] Help with fonts
how did you install the font ? i'm using gimp 2.3.13 on Linux and it works perfectly (just copied the font files to my /home/myfolder/.gimp-2.3/fonts/. Try looking better because though the font name is evanescent in Gimp it is under Typeface (C) Draftlight/Aerin ... -- LEGENY Jozef ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Color selectors, which one do you use?
On 12/5/06, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, time for another little poll. GIMP has an interface for pluggable color selector modules. Over the time we have collected quite a few of them. In the 2.3 tree we have the following modules and builtin color selectors: Default color selector CMYK color selector Painter-style triangle color selector Watercolor style color selector Palette color selector This is IMO too much choice for most users and I think it would help if we would disable some of them. Expert users would still be able to reenable them in the Module Manager. Perhaps we could even have a menu somewhere in the Colors tab that allows to enable/disable color selectors. Now the question is, which color selectors do you actually use? I have myself never found the Watercolor selector to be useful. But your mileage might vary. Tell me about it. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user I'm using the colorwheel and occasionally the hvs/rgb selector. -- LEGENY Jozef ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
Here is my own modest grain of salt in the discussion: I have been teaching Gimp to first-year university students for more than six years, to one or two hundreds students every year. I have never encountered any specific criticism among them about Gimp's GUI. More, I cannot understand what seems to be so fundamentally bad or wrong in that GUI. The remarks I read are not specific at all, and generally seem to boil down to one single reproach: Gimp is not Photoshop. I think that Gimp developers should not spend any time discussing this. Somebody in this list said that teachers have the duty to teach what is an industry standard. My own strong opinion is that one of my duties as a university teacher is to try changing the industry standards, if I think they are inappropriate. If my students need later to learn using Photoshop or Vista, they will be able to learn them quickly and easily, and with an acutely critical mind (hopefully). For the present, I prefer to teach them Gimp and GNU/Linux, and to teach them not to accept any so-called standard without discussion and thought. -- Olivier Lecarme ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 14:23 +0100, Olivier Lecarme wrote: Here is my own modest grain of salt in the discussion: snip Somebody in this list said that teachers have the duty to teach what is an industry standard. My own strong opinion is that one of my duties as a university teacher is to try changing the industry standards, if I think they are inappropriate. If my students need later to learn using Photoshop or Vista, they will be able to learn them quickly and easily, and with an acutely critical mind (hopefully). For the present, I prefer to teach them Gimp and GNU/Linux, and to teach them not to accept any so-called standard without discussion and thought. Surely, it is most important to teach students the principals involved in a subject so that, at a later stage, they are better informed when it comes to choosing in which direction to proceed. It is the responsibility of Industry, not universities, to provide the training needed for its employees to do the jobs required of them. The new graduate should be able to bring fresh ideas to the world of work not perpetuate the status quo and, thereby, help to ensure that we all benefit from progress and change. I could go on but this is probably not the place to do so. Norman ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Can Gimp start with something less dan gerous than a brush
On Friday 15 December 2006 00:25, User1001 wrote: Select the desired startup/initial tool, then save your Preferences, which also saves the currently selected tool - which then gets selected the next time Gimp2 is started: 0) Select desired tool to start up with 1) File/Preferences/Input Devices 2) Save Input Device Settings Now 3) OK Thanks for the useful routine, whch was more helpful than simply answering: Yes +1 Now we need to convince the Powers That Be to make that the default out of the box. Also, the PostScript output routine defaults to vertical and horizontal offsets of 20 pixels each. These settings have no utility that I can see. I know how to patch this and recompile but it would save time if I didn't have to do this for each successive release. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Can Gimp start with something less dangerous than a brush
John R. Culleton wrote: Now we need to convince the Powers That Be to make that the default out of the box. Well, it had been this way - the rectangular selection was the default tool before 2.2, iirc. But many people did complain that GIMP does nothing on newly opened images, so it has been changed. Also, the PostScript output routine defaults to vertical and horizontal offsets of 20 pixels each. These settings have no utility that I can see. I know how to patch this and recompile but it would save time if I didn't have to do this for each successive release. Why don't you open a report in Bugzilla and attach the patch? HTH, Michael -- GIMP http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] New scripts-fu already obsolete
I noticed using gimp 2.3.14(from cvs) that many ,often recent ,script fu are not more usable i thought was useful a ( very incomplete) list LasmSpecialFX (all scripts included) letter-drop colortemp whithebalance sepoina makewonderful error messages usually don't give any hints to fix the problems ( error reading string ) Alchemie Foto\grafiche __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
On 12/17/06, norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 14:23 +0100, Olivier Lecarme wrote: Here is my own modest grain of salt in the discussion: snip Somebody in this list said that teachers have the duty to teach what is an industry standard. My own strong opinion is that one of my duties as a university teacher is to try changing the industry standards, if I think they are inappropriate. If my students need later to learn using Photoshop or Vista, they will be able to learn them quickly and easily, and with an acutely critical mind (hopefully). For the present, I prefer to teach them Gimp and GNU/Linux, and to teach them not to accept any so-called standard without discussion and thought. Surely, it is most important to teach students the principals involved in a subject so that, at a later stage, they are better informed when it comes to choosing in which direction to proceed. It is the responsibility of Industry, not universities, to provide the training needed for its employees to do the jobs required of them. The new graduate should be able to bring fresh ideas to the world of work not perpetuate the status quo and, thereby, help to ensure that we all benefit from progress and change. I could go on but this is probably not the place to do so. Norman As a career development student I'd have to agree that it's more important to learn general ideas and concepts, vs. the nitty gritty of one particular application/language, unless you want to learn that specific level of detail in an application. My wife teaches Gimp to her Jr. High computer class, about 90 students a quarter...she wasn't teaching any advanced graphic editor at all until I showed her Gimp and how it was just as good if not better than the industry standard Photoshop, which is around $600+ for one license (there probably is a school edition, but you get my point). Her students and school would never be able to afford that (nor should they in my opinion) when there is a competing product that is open source and available to all. Also, the industry standard is subjective at best and from my perspective limited simply by choice. Take for excample programming - what would you say is the industry standard language? There are so many choices it's impossible to say. -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
Anthony Ettinger wrote: On 12/17/06, norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 14:23 +0100, Olivier Lecarme wrote: Here is my own modest grain of salt in the discussion: snip Somebody in this list said that teachers have the duty to teach what is an industry standard. My own strong opinion is that one of my duties as a university teacher is to try changing the industry standards, if I think they are inappropriate. If my students need later to learn using Photoshop or Vista, they will be able to learn them quickly and easily, and with an acutely critical mind (hopefully). For the present, I prefer to teach them Gimp and GNU/Linux, and to teach them not to accept any so-called standard without discussion and thought. Surely, it is most important to teach students the principals involved in a subject so that, at a later stage, they are better informed when it comes to choosing in which direction to proceed. It is the responsibility of Industry, not universities, to provide the training needed for its employees to do the jobs required of them. The new graduate should be able to bring fresh ideas to the world of work not perpetuate the status quo and, thereby, help to ensure that we all benefit from progress and change. I could go on but this is probably not the place to do so. Norman As a career development student I'd have to agree that it's more important to learn general ideas and concepts, vs. the nitty gritty of one particular application/language, unless you want to learn that specific level of detail in an application. My wife teaches Gimp to her Jr. High computer class, about 90 students a quarter...she wasn't teaching any advanced graphic editor at all until I showed her Gimp and how it was just as good if not better than the industry standard Photoshop, which is around $600+ for one license (there probably is a school edition, but you get my point). Her students and school would never be able to afford that (nor should they in my opinion) when there is a competing product that is open source and available to all. Also, the industry standard is subjective at best and from my perspective limited simply by choice. Take for excample programming - what would you say is the industry standard language? There are so many choices it's impossible to say. Not to mention that industry standard is a often a function of marketing as opposed to technical superiority or codification by some sort of standards body. E.g., Windows. Bill Lee ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] miror image
Can anyone tell me please if there is an opton to mirror an image rather than just flipping it. I want to put a graphic on the other side of a banner and flipping it makes the letters backwards. A mirror image would make them the right way around after flipping. Thanks, Alexis___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] miror image
On Dec 17, 2006, at 8:12 PM, Alexis Everson wrote: Can anyone tell me please if there is an opton to mirror an image rather than just flipping it. I want to put a graphic on the other side of a banner and flipping it makes the letters backwards. A mirror image would make them the right way around after flipping. I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but a flip and a mirror are exactly the same. To demonstrate, write something on a piece of paper, stand in front of a mirror and look at the piece of paper while you hold it up. This is the mirror, obviously. Now flip the piece of paper and hold it up against the light. Same thing. Regards, Marco___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] miror image
On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 20:19 +0100, Marco Wessel wrote: On Dec 17, 2006, at 8:12 PM, Alexis Everson wrote: Can anyone tell me please if there is an opton to mirror an image rather than just flipping it. I want to put a graphic on the other side of a banner and flipping it makes the letters backwards. A mirror image would make them the right way around after flipping. I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but a flip and a mirror are exactly the same. To demonstrate, write something on a piece of paper, stand in front of a mirror and look at the piece of paper while you hold it up. This is the mirror, obviously. Now flip the piece of paper and hold it up against the light. Same thing. Sorry, but I must disagree. If I look into a mirror my right side is still on the right. If I could flip, then my right side would be on the left. Norman ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Mirror Image of text
What I did to solve a problem similar to this (need a vending machine to face the opposite way). I flipped the machine to create a mirror image, and so of course the text was backward on the face of the machine, I then selected the texted by it-self and reflipped it back to the original direction, had to tweak it a little but it looks fine. I can send it to you as before/after if you would to like an example. begin:vcard fn:Christopher Burkahrt n:Burkahrt;Christopher adr;dom:Apt 77;;425 Riverbend Pky ;Athens;GA;30605 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;cell:404-432-2233 version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] psd files
On Sunday 17 December 2006 1:12 pm, ChadDavis wrote: Hello. I've got a bunch of psd files that I need to convert to a useable format; I don't have a photoshop application. Gimp can't open them, though it can save to the psd format and then reopen those files that it has saved to the format. I read that there a two different types of psd formats, and that the newest one is a closed standard. Perhaps the files I need to open are those newer formats. What are my options? Is their an extension to gimp that can open these files? Or is there some other tool that can convert them to a standard image format. They are just pictures. I have no reason to preserve layering and such. Try ImageMagick. -- Scott ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
This goes right to the heart of my biggest complaint about GIMP though: its name. I don't understand why the developers would put so much time and hard work into creating a program as professional as GIMP and then name it after a slang word for a disabled person. How do you sell that to a corporation? How do you market that? The people in business suits are going to chose a program named Photoshop over Gimp 11 times out of 10. On 12/17/06, Bill Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to mention that industry standard is a often a function of marketing as opposed to technical superiority or codification by some sort of standards body. E.g., Windows. Bill Lee -- Carter http://icasualties.org/oif/US_NAMES.aspx -- Carter http://icasualties.org/oif/US_NAMES.aspx ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
Carter castor wrote: This goes right to the heart of my biggest complaint about GIMP though: its name. I don't understand why the developers would put so much time and hard work into creating a program as professional as GIMP and then name it after a slang word for a disabled person. How do you sell that to a corporation? How do you market that? The people in business suits are going to chose a program named Photoshop over Gimp 11 times out of 10. I personally think GIMP's cute (especially that wolf logo). But I'll put the question to you carter: if not GIMP, then what? ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
That 4% needs to be weighed against the proportion of people who use image manipulation programs. A much higher percentage of United States residents edit digital photographs than Nigerian citizens, for example. Personally, I would name it after a famous painting or painter so that people would immediately associate the name with great art. Photoshop to me sounds very stale. But Starry Night or Van Gogh photo editing software? The possibilities are endless: Da Vinci, Monet, Matisse, Michelangelo, Caravaggio, etc. I did have a couple other ideas, but after googling them, I found they were already in use. Anyway, I was just making a suggestion. There is no need for that sort of language. (And the wolf logo is awesome, props to the designer) On 12/17/06, Chris Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suggest something else, or quit bitching. Chris -- Carter http://icasualties.org/oif/US_NAMES.aspx ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
On 12/17/06, Carter castor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This goes right to the heart of my biggest complaint about GIMP though: its name. I don't understand why the developers would put so much time and hard work into creating a program as professional as GIMP and then name it after a slang word for a disabled person. How do you sell that to a corporation? How do you market that? The people in business suits are going to chose a program named Photoshop over Gimp 11 times out of 10. I disagree. Anyone who's serious about their business wouldn't rule out an application simply by it's name without considering it, especially if it's highly recommended. You may have a point given 2 software boxes on a shelf, Photoshop is more descriptive than Gimp - But that isn't how people acquire Gimp. -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] miror image
On Dec 17, 2006, at 8:36 PM, norman wrote: Sorry, but I must disagree. If I look into a mirror my right side is still on the right. If I could flip, then my right side would be on the left. Uh, no. Think of that person in the mirror as someone else for a bit and forget the mirror is even there. If you were raising your right hand, then that person would be raising his left hand. Maybe it'd be even clearer if you stood across from someone and both raised your right hands. You'd find the other person's hand would be on your left side. Mirrors flip left and right. Always have, always will. Any text held up to a mirror would come out the same was as were it flipped. Take a flipped image, hold it up to a mirror and you can see what the image was like before the flipping. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
John Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carter castor wrote: This goes right to the heart of my biggest complaint about GIMP though: its name. I don't understand why the developers would put so much time and hard work into creating a program as professional as GIMP and then name it after a slang word for a disabled person. I personally think GIMP's cute (especially that wolf logo). But I'll put the question to you carter: if not GIMP, then what? OK, how about i-mage, pronounced eye mage? (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may have a point given 2 software boxes on a shelf, Photoshop is more descriptive than Gimp - But that isn't how people acquire Gimp. Today. What about in 3 years' time? Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
On 12/17/06, Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may have a point given 2 software boxes on a shelf, Photoshop is more descriptive than Gimp - But that isn't how people acquire Gimp. Today. What about in 3 years' time? I still don't see it as name-only being a deal-breaker for someone who's interested in a graphic design application. -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
On 12/18/06, Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may have a point given 2 software boxes on a shelf, Photoshop is more descriptive than Gimp - But that isn't how people acquire Gimp. Today. What about in 3 years' time? I like the proposed alternate name far better than the current name, being that it is both punny and literal. I believe you'd have to work pretty hard to get such a change accepted, 'cause mainly of name recognition. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
David Gowers wrote: On 12/18/06, *Leon Brooks* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may have a point given 2 software boxes on a shelf, Photoshop is more descriptive than Gimp - But that isn't how people acquire Gimp. Today. What about in 3 years' time? I like the proposed alternate name far better than the current name, being that it is both punny and literal. I believe you'd have to work pretty hard to get such a change accepted, 'cause mainly of name recognition. Something else everyone needs to remember is Gimp is actually an acronym (GNU Image Manipulation Program) vs a chosen name. Peace... Tom ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] New scripts-fu already obsolete
Hi, On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 16:03 +0100, Alchemie foto\grafiche wrote: I noticed using gimp 2.3.14(from cvs) that many ,often recent ,script fu are not more usable There are currently some unfinished changes in script-fu. If you are using GIMP from CVS, you have to expect such problems (and reporting them on the user list doesn't help anyone). Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
