Re: [Gimp-user] Color Management Woes

2010-01-13 Thread Frank Gore
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 11:43 PM, David Gowers <00a...@gmail.com> wrote: > We don't know if their formats are crazy. > But they certainly appear to be undocumented. Until they are > documented, or someone reverse-engineers them, we are unlikely to gain > support for them in open-source software. >

Re: [Gimp-user] Color Management Woes

2010-01-13 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Frank Gore wrote: > On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Frank Gore wrote: >> As I mentioned, all the commercial applications I've tried had no >> problems determining the appropriate color space for these files. It's >> only open source tools that are unable to, inc

Re: [Gimp-user] Color Management Woes

2010-01-13 Thread Frank Gore
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Frank Gore wrote: > As I mentioned, all the commercial applications I've tried had no > problems determining the appropriate color space for these files. It's > only open source tools that are unable to, including Gimp. > > So is this a bug? Or is Pentax really tha

Re: [Gimp-user] Color Management Woes

2010-01-13 Thread Frank Gore
I just tested this with other Pentax cameras. So far, files from the K-7, K20D and K-x all open in Gimp without asking me to specify color profile, and they all incorrectly default to sRGB. All these images DO have an Adobe RGB profile embedded. But those are the only cameras I can check with that

Re: [Gimp-user] Pixelation of text

2010-01-13 Thread Marc Carson
Larry, At what physical dimensions are you trying to print the text? The document should be at least above 200 DPI @ whatever physical dimension, to avoid obvious pixelation (assuming you do have antialiasing enabled). If you want to email the XCF to me, I can take a quick look at it. Marc Marc

Re: [Gimp-user] Color Management Woes

2010-01-13 Thread Michael J. Hammel
On Wed, 2010-01-13 at 18:34 -0500, Frank Gore wrote: > On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 6:21 PM, David Gowers <00a...@gmail.com> wrote: > > That sounds very much like it is attached in a non-standard way. > > Actually, you're entirely right. If I assign an Adobe RGB profile to > the picture, then save it,

Re: [Gimp-user] Color Management Woes

2010-01-13 Thread Michael J. Hammel
On Wed, 2010-01-13 at 18:20 -0500, Frank Gore wrote: > But the problem is that it doesn't convert when I open the file. It > just assumes the picture is in sRGB and interprets the color space > that way. Have you ever seen the colors of a file in Adobe RGB that's > incorrectly interpreted as sRGB?

Re: [Gimp-user] Color Management Woes

2010-01-13 Thread Frank Gore
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 6:21 PM, David Gowers <00a...@gmail.com> wrote: > That sounds very much like it is attached in a non-standard way. Actually, you're entirely right. If I assign an Adobe RGB profile to the picture, then save it, and re-open it, THEN it asks me what to do with the color profi

Re: [Gimp-user] Color Management Woes

2010-01-13 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Frank Gore wrote: > I've been pulling my hair out trying to figure out color management in Gimp. > > In the preferences, I clearly have "File Open Behaviour" set to "Ask > what to do". My working profile is sRGB, and so is my Monitor profile. > I have "Display rend

Re: [Gimp-user] Color Management Woes

2010-01-13 Thread Frank Gore
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Michael J. Hammel wrote: > I'm no expert about this so my wild-ass guess is that it doesn't ask > because there is nothing to do.  Consider that the working profile is > what a file *HAS* to be converted to or else you can't open it.  If the > file has an Adobe RGB

Re: [Gimp-user] Color Management Woes

2010-01-13 Thread Michael J. Hammel
On Wed, 2010-01-13 at 17:46 -0500, Frank Gore wrote: > In the preferences, I clearly have "File Open Behaviour" set to "Ask > what to do". My working profile is sRGB, and so is my Monitor profile. I'm no expert about this so my wild-ass guess is that it doesn't ask because there is nothing to do.

[Gimp-user] Color Management Woes

2010-01-13 Thread Frank Gore
I've been pulling my hair out trying to figure out color management in Gimp. In the preferences, I clearly have "File Open Behaviour" set to "Ask what to do". My working profile is sRGB, and so is my Monitor profile. I have "Display rendering intent" set to "Relative colorimetric". Yet, everytime

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP vs Photoshop

2010-01-13 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 1/14/10, Marco Ciampa wrote: >> ** Just 8 bit/channel; > yes, just like photoshop some years ago...wait a moment...this means that > serious photo work started just some 5-10 years ago > > PS: jpeg photos are 8 bit only This is totally unrelated. Open (almost) any photo in GIMP, edit it

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP vs Photoshop

2010-01-13 Thread Marco Ciampa
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 04:51:02PM +, Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta wrote: > Hello! [...] > * Photoshop: Must be used for 'serious' work. Yeah...it's just like to say that you have to use Windows for serious work... ;-) > * GIMP: May be used for 'serious' work if that means showing a photo >

[Gimp-user] Pixelation of text

2010-01-13 Thread Larry H.
>On 01/12/2010 02:33 PM, Larry H. wrote: >> When I use the text tool, the output is noticeably pixelated. How can I >> prevent that? >> >> I am learning to use GIMP 2.6 on a Windows XP professional machine, a Dell. >> > > >It'd be helpful if you could post the file online somewhere and send us

[Gimp-user] GIMP vs Photoshop

2010-01-13 Thread photocomix
About the 8 , 16 bit issue maybe all what you need may be just first correct your image with something as RawTherapee (now Gpl ),and in case of need of further editing , send the result to gimp (You may set in Rawtherapee Gimp as "associate image editor) Let say that if you need to works with lay

[Gimp-user] GIMP vs Photoshop

2010-01-13 Thread photocomix
About the 8 , 16 bit issue maybe all what you need may be just first correct your image with RawTherapee (now Gpl ),and in case of need of further editing , send the result to gimp (You may set in rawtherapee Gimp as "associate image editor) Let say that if you need to works with layers, layermask

[Gimp-user] Plugins in 2.8

2010-01-13 Thread photocomix
>And that script does need to be updated to be used on the last stable version >of gimp Sorry for the typo Was supposed to be "the script do NOT need to be updated to be used on the last stable version", i just used with gimp 2.6.8 -- photocomix (via www.gimpusers.com) ___

[Gimp-user] Plugins in 2.8

2010-01-13 Thread photocomix
You can't have Gimp 2.8 is not yet available, neither will in short term And that script does need to be updated to be used on the last stable version of gimp >>Tried to install >>elsamuko-national-geographic-batch.scm >>"Open" in GIMP wasn?t the right way. Does anyone know how or do I need to

Re: [Gimp-user] Plugins in 2.8

2010-01-13 Thread Torsten Neuer
Am Mittwoch, 13. Januar 2010 10:08:44 schrieb Peter S.: > >Tried to install > >elsamuko-national-geographic-batch.scm > >"Open" in GIMP wasn?t the right way. Does anyone know how or do I need to > >wait until the plugin is updated? > > > >Must add I?m using MacOS 10.6.2 > In case of a script-fu,

[Gimp-user] Plugins in 2.8

2010-01-13 Thread Peter S.
>Tried to install >elsamuko-national-geographic-batch.scm >"Open" in GIMP wasn?t the right way. Does anyone know how or do I need to >wait until the plugin is updated? > >Must add I?m using MacOS 10.6.2 -- Peter S. (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user

[Gimp-user] Plugins in 2.8

2010-01-13 Thread Peter S.
Tried to install elsamuko-national-geographic-batch.scm "Open" in GIMP wasn?t the right way. Does anyone know how or do I need to wait until the plugin is updated? -- Peter S. (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berke