Re: [Gimp-user] How to change a rectangle?
I'm new at this GIMP stuff. I want to change the corner radai (ray-dee-eye) on a rectangle I've created. How do I do it? I'm using ver. 2.6.8 Well it is probably best to set the corner radius when you create the rectangle. Rectangle selection Tool Options Set radius as required -- Owen ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How to change a rectangle?
2010/1/22 BGP bigsk...@gmail.com: I'm new at this GIMP stuff. I want to change the corner radai (ray-dee-eye) on a rectangle I've created. How do I do it? I'm using ver. 2.6.8 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user Choose the rectangle tool again, unless you have already, then click once on the rectangle that you have created. This will put it back into edit mode or whatever you want to call it. Then check Rounded corners and select your radius from there. -- Deniz Dogan ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] I can't find the file that has the size of previewimages in dialogs...
No, that's wrong. You have to change C:\Users\name\.gimp-2.x\gtkrc
#
# Adjust the size of previews in plug-in dialogs:
#
style gimp-large-preview
{
GimpPreview::size = 400
}
class GimpPreview style gimp-large-preview
Andre Anckaert wrote:
All this is in the User Manual. Does somebody read that sometimes?
Start GIMP
Click Menu: Help -- User Manual.
Or click Edit -- Preferences -- Previews (Or thumbnails or miniatures or
whatever language you have)
André Anckaert
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[mailto:gimp-user-boun...@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu] Namens Ken Warner
Verzonden: vrijdag 22 januari 2010 2:55
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Onderwerp: [Gimp-user] I can't find the file that has the size of
previewimages in dialogs...
I was told where to set the dimensions of the preview window
and I set it too big and now I forgot where I set it and I
want to set the size of the preview smaller.
It's in an .ini or *rc file somewhere but I can't find it.
Could someone tell me where that file is?
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Re: [Gimp-user] Is the a Gimp version that works with the new version of Apple X 11 ?
You might try the URL below. I am running 10.5.8, and this is the version I use. http://gimp.lisanet.de/Website/News/News.html --- On Thu, 1/21/10, Willie B Bass williambray...@gmail.com wrote: From: Willie B Bass williambray...@gmail.com Subject: [Gimp-user] Is the a Gimp version that works with the new version of Apple X 11 ? To: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 4:13 PM I have mac OS X 10.4.11 . I downloaded the appropriate version but it won't work with the new version of X 11. I called apple and they said I can't re-install the old version . If there anything I can do to make Gimp for me. I would love to make a donation if it will work for me . Thanks, William Brayton -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Change rectangle size?
I've created a rectangular box. How do I change the size of it? ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Complaint
I'm sure you folks are all experts at GIMP but I've found it to be a very hard to learn how to use. But how many hundreds of hours did it take you to learn how to use it? For example- the tutorials are mostly out of date and they usually tell you to click something that isn't even present in the latest version. What a PAIN. There has to be an easier waythey has to be. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Keep Trans?
I'm trying to figure out what the button Keep Trans is supposed to be in ver. 2.6.8 Anybody know? ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint
BGP bigsk...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure you folks are all experts at GIMP but I've found it to be a very hard to learn how to use. But how many hundreds of hours did it take you to learn how to use it? GIMP is a very powerful and complex tool, and thus you cannot master it in a few minutes. But its learning curve is such that you should be able to do interesting things in a few hours. For example- the tutorials are mostly out of date and they usually tell you to click something that isn't even present in the latest version. What a PAIN. Since GIMP is continuously improved, it is impossible to maintain all parts of the interface in the same place, used in the same way. And people who made tutorials years ago may be occupied elsewhere now. There has to be an easier waythey has to be. The easiest way is to buy and use a recent book. Depending on what are your main usage of GIMP and your budget, you have some choice, and new books are in preparation. Give a look at the first five entries on http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooksfield-keywords=GIMPx=0y=0 -- Olivier Lecarme ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Keep Trans?
BGP bigsk...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to figure out what the button Keep Trans is supposed to be in ver. 2.6.8 It prevents you to change transparent areas in the current layer. -- Olivier Lecarme ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Loading/indexing fonts everytime GIMP starts
On 1/22/10, Wei-Tsun Sun wrote: A font manager is a separate application and not part of GIMP. If you are interested in a free open source solution, try Fontmatrix -- it has a build for Windows. Got that, disabling fonts seems too hacky. I am thinking if there is another way to solve that issue. The only other way is not to use many fonts at all. There is absolutely nothing hacky about disabling and reenabling fonts via font managers. This is how most designers work. Alexandre ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint
On 1/22/10, BGP wrote: I'm sure you folks are all experts at GIMP but I've found it to be a very hard to learn how to use. But how many hundreds of hours did it take you to learn how to use it? Learning is something you never stop to do. If you stopped learning, you are dead and the coffin with your body is about to be put six feet underground. For example- the tutorials are mostly out of date Did you read *all* tutorials on GIMP? Really? I'm sorry, but I don't believe you. Alexandre ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Change rectangle size?
2010/1/22 BGP bigsk...@gmail.com: I've created a rectangular box. How do I change the size of it? ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user What do you mean by box? -- Deniz Dogan ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint
On 01/22/2010 09:58 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On 1/22/10, BGP wrote: I'm sure you folks are all experts at GIMP but I've found it to be a very hard to learn how to use. But how many hundreds of hours did it take you to learn how to use it? Learning is something you never stop to do. If you stopped learning, you are dead and the coffin with your body is about to be put six feet underground. For example- the tutorials are mostly out of date Did you read *all* tutorials on GIMP? Really? I'm sorry, but I don't believe you. Alexandre While the responses to the original poster are surely technically correct, the original poster _does_ have a legitimate point. It might actually be easier for a person to learn Gimp if they have never used another image editing program. However, for people who grew up on Photoshop, it is a particular challenge to learn Gimp because one must learn substantially new techniques, methods, terminology, concepts, and workflows. And the OP is correct that there is some out-of-date documentation being presented as if it were current. This is especially a problem because many aspects of the UI have changed in the last couple years. And this problem is only going to be much _worse_ when the single-window possibility is available -- the docs will really be behind. The first step in increasing broad acceptance, support, and development of Gimp is to _accept_ its shortcomings and to honestly recognize the challenges that new users face. While long-time users and the developers of Gimp may not feel like Gimp should be treated as a product, the reality is that any new user looking at Gimp is going to make choices and decisions that are product choice decisions. Denial of that fact is complete denial of reality. It is my opinion that many in the open source / free software (OS/FS) arena have long ago forgotten that truism. In my experience the OS/FS world pretty much tells new users that if they are not patient enough or smart enough to figure out the secrets of whatever software, they don't deserve to use it. I feel that is completely backward. The OS/FS community should focus on (as much as software development) the education of new users and bringing them into the community. As an example, while I have not looked for it, I am sure that there must at least be some book or maybe a website here or there that specifically addresses How to smoothly migrate from using Photoshop to using Gimp -- the benefits, challenges, and differences of using Gimp. Such content should be right up front in the whole Gimp documentation, Gimp websites, etc., etc. Every successful organization (and the Gimp community IS an organization of a sort) gets new users/customers by telling potential users/customers how/why their product is better -- and then making the conversion to using/buying their product as easy as possible. The Gimp community could do a lot better at this. And if somebody says we don't care about getting more users, I would ask them then, why make Gimp at all? How about this as an answer to the OP: It took me twice as long to learn to use Gimp as it took me to learn to use Photoshop. I agree that the documentation is behind the curve and needs to be improved. There are a great many things that I still do not know how to do in Gimp and a great many things about Gimp that annoy me to the point of being incredibly frustrated. While Gimp has many incredibly wonderful features, there are still major features missing that significantly hamper my own productivity. However, when I add up and try to balance out all the pluses and minuses, I have come to the conclusion that I would rather use Gimp than Photoshop and that I would rather support Gimp's development than to fund the arrogance of Adobe's/Microsoft's management. When a new user complains, I would rather we say ... Gee, there is a lot of truth in what you are saying and I understand that _has_ been your experience so far. However, there are many great resources available and I hope that you will pursue using those resources so that you can fully benefit from what Gimp has to offer. As an aside, I really think that the documentation issue is going to become critical in the next couple of years. As I understand it (and please correct me if I am wrong), anybody can contribute to the documentation effort, but it takes significant training and skills in the special process involved with maintaining documentation versioning, etc., etc., etc. I don't begin to understand all of that and I DON'T WANT TO have to become an expert in all that stuff -- I just want to help improve the documentation. What I DO want to do is be able to contribute if I see a small problem or have a suggestion as a better way to provide a bit of information, etc. I think it is time to seriously think about putting the documentation in a real Wiki environment where we don't have to worry
Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint
On 1/22/10, BGP wrote: Learning is something you never stop to do. If you stopped learning, you are dead and the coffin with your body is about to be put six feet underground. Never heard that one before. Now you have :) For example- the tutorials are mostly out of date Did you read *all* tutorials on GIMP? Really? I'm sorry, but I don't believe you. I never said all- you did. You were asked several times what tutorials out of hundreds that exist you refer to, and you never replied. So when you say that tutorials are mostly out of date, there is no way you can be sure of that unless you've read *all* the tutorials. Basic logic. If you have an excellent tutorial for ver. 2.6.8 then please refer me to it. What kind of tutorial? Drawing? Painting? Color correction? Retouching? FX? Please understand that by refusing to provide details you don't help us to help you. Alexandre ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Plasma pluggin?
In the following tutorial the guy refers to a Plasma Plugin. http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/The_Basics/ Where the heck do I find that? ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint
On 1/22/10, Jay Smith wrote: While the responses to the original poster are surely technically correct, the original poster _does_ have a legitimate point. It might actually be easier for a person to learn Gimp if they have never used another image editing program. However, for people who grew up on Photoshop, it is a particular challenge to learn Gimp because one must learn substantially new techniques, methods, terminology, concepts, and workflows. And the OP is correct that there is some out-of-date documentation being presented as if it were current. This is especially a problem because many aspects of the UI have changed in the last couple years. And this problem is only going to be much _worse_ when the single-window possibility is available -- the docs will really be behind. The first step in increasing broad acceptance, support, and development of Gimp is to _accept_ its shortcomings and to honestly recognize the challenges that new users face. Jay, It has been said by GIMP developers in public several times that tutorials at gimp.org are out of date and need reworking. There is no problem accepting the fact, see? There is a problem of people not having spare time to work on that. It's really *that* simple. There's no conspiracy. Alexandre ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint
I'm sure you folks are all experts at GIMP but I've found it to be a very hard to learn how to use. But how many hundreds of hours did it take you to learn how to use it? For example- the tutorials are mostly out of date and they usually tell you to click something that isn't even present in the latest version. What a PAIN. There has to be an easier waythey has to be. I sympathise with you, GIMP is complicated but then, so are lots of applications. The darkness was lifted from my eyes when I discovered www.meetthegimp.org This is a series of video tutorials which is so helpful without being over complicated that even an oldie like me can understand. Give them a try, and tell me what you think. Norman ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint
2010/1/22 BGP bigsk...@gmail.com: I'm sure you folks are all experts at GIMP but I've found it to be a very hard to learn how to use. But how many hundreds of hours did it take you to learn how to use it? For example- the tutorials are mostly out of date and they usually tell you to click something that isn't even present in the latest version. What a PAIN. There has to be an easier waythey has to be. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user It didn't take me long at all to become productive in GIMP and I'm still learning! I'm in no way a professional, I mainly do web design using GIMP (which can be a pain at sometimes because it doesn't have layer groups like Photoshop). Try out different things, click stuff you have no idea about what they do. At least that's what I did... Tutorials helped me very little. -- Deniz Dogan ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Security issue
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 5:30 PM, klug...@verizon.net wrote: I installed Gimp for the first time this week. Subsequently, Secunia PSI alerted me that the version of GTK + (2.16.6) installed with Gimp is insecure. The GTK web site identifies the current version as 2.18. Same problem happens with other programs that use older gtk+ (inkscape, wireshark...). I just set PSI to ignore them. Is there any way to replace the version installed by Gimp with the latest one? Not really. Will the next release of Gimp have an up-to-date version of GTK? We'll wait and see. :) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Plasma pluggin?
On Fri, 2010-01-22 at 10:41 -0500, BGP wrote: In the following tutorial the guy refers to a Plasma Plugin. http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/The_Basics/ Where the heck do I find that? Filters-Render-Clouds-Plasma -- Michael J. HammelPrincipal Software Engineer mjham...@graphics-muse.org http://graphics-muse.org -- Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety. Nor, are they likely to end up with either.-- Benjamin Franklin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint
On 1/22/10, Jay Smith wrote: While long-time users and the developers of Gimp may not feel like Gimp should be treated as a product, the reality is that any new user looking at Gimp is going to make choices and decisions that are product choice decisions. Denial of that fact is complete denial of reality. And who denies it? :) It is my opinion that many in the open source / free software (OS/FS) arena have long ago forgotten that truism. In my experience the OS/FS world pretty much tells new users that if they are not patient enough or smart enough to figure out the secrets of whatever software, they don't deserve to use it. How does it relate to GIMP? I feel that is completely backward. The OS/FS community should focus on (as much as software development) the education of new users and bringing them into the community. Agreed. As an example, while I have not looked for it, I am sure that there must at least be some book or maybe a website here or there that specifically addresses How to smoothly migrate from using Photoshop to using Gimp -- the benefits, challenges, and differences of using Gimp. Such content should be right up front in the whole Gimp documentation, Gimp websites, etc., etc. Not a book and not a website, but something I started a while ago in Russian and haven't finished translating into English yet. http://wiki.libregraphicsworld.org/doku.php?id=migration-ps-to-gimp Basically it covers status of support for file formats (needs updating a bit), table of tools and their keyboard shortcuts mapping, table of functionality mapping I'll see if I can finish it this week. could do a lot better at this. And if somebody says we don't care about getting more users, I would ask them then, why make Gimp at all? And does anyone actually say that? As an aside, I really think that the documentation issue is going to become critical in the next couple of years. As I understand it (and please correct me if I am wrong), anybody can contribute to the documentation effort, but it takes significant training and skills in the special process involved with maintaining documentation versioning, etc., etc., etc. I don't begin to understand all of that and I DON'T WANT TO have to become an expert in all that stuff -- I just want to help improve the documentation. I understand your feelings, but GIMP documentation is a single-source effort that isn't well supported by current wiki engines. Alexandre ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint
On 1/22/2010 9:48 AM, Deniz Dogan wrote: snip It didn't take me long at all to become productive in GIMP and I'm still learning! I'm in no way a professional, I mainly do web design using GIMP (which can be a pain at sometimes because it doesn't have layer groups like Photoshop). Try out different things, click stuff you have no idea about what they do. At least that's what I did... Tutorials helped me very little. That's how I learned how to use GIMP. I don't like tutorials myself. They tend to be rather specific, even though they are trying to teach generalized techniques. I just experiment until I find something I like and than I try to remember what I did so I can do it again. My favorite tool right now is the fractal explorer. I have a good notion I'll never become an expert at using it but boy, do I have fun[0]! (: [0]: http://adragonstale.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/art/digital/ -- PIT signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint
On 1/22/10, Programmer In Training wrote: My favorite tool right now is the fractal explorer. Don't forget to write a tutorial :-P Alexandre ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint
On 1/22/2010 10:12 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On 1/22/10, Programmer In Training wrote: My favorite tool right now is the fractal explorer. Don't forget to write a tutorial :-P I've thought about it. I was going to start doing so for Renderosity (they have nothing for GIMP users there) several years ago but never got around to it. I'm not really sure where to begin as I really don't understand the settings. I just click and slide and adjust until I find what I like. No skill there! :p -- PIT signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Gimp Documentation in the future... (from Re: Complaint)
On 01/22/2010 10:57 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On 1/22/10, Jay Smith wrote: SNIP As an aside, I really think that the documentation issue is going to become critical in the next couple of years. As I understand it (and please correct me if I am wrong), anybody can contribute to the documentation effort, but it takes significant training and skills in the special process involved with maintaining documentation versioning, etc., etc., etc. I don't begin to understand all of that and I DON'T WANT TO have to become an expert in all that stuff -- I just want to help improve the documentation. SNIP I understand your feelings, but GIMP documentation is a single-source effort that isn't well supported by current wiki engines. Alexandre On 01/22/2010 10:44 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On 1/22/10, Jay Smith wrote: SNIP It has been said by GIMP developers in public several times that tutorials at gimp.org are out of date and need reworking. There is no problem accepting the fact, see? There is a problem of people not having spare time to work on that. It's really *that* simple. There's no conspiracy. Alexandre I'm breaking this out into a new thread. In a couple of his responses Alexandre said: but GIMP documentation is a single-source effort that isn't well supported by current wiki engines. and There is a problem of people not having spare time to work on [updating documentation]. Alexandre's second point can be solved by a Wiki. A Wiki would allow and encourage more people to become involved. However, I am ignorant of exactly what the input / output requirements of the single-source effort are exactly. If possible, can somebody point me to a reference which describes how the documentation project/work itself is being done and what the inputs/outputs are and where they live? For example, are the docs such as http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/gimp-concepts-usage.html buried inside Gimp itself as comments (as some programs do)? For example, are the multiple languages offered here http://docs.gimp.org/ all maintained in single multi-language documents or database records (for each respective topic page)? And how are they kept in sync and annotated as to what new/changed/removed text needs translating, etc. Sorry if this is a newbie kind of question, but I have not previously run into a discussion of it. I agree that Wikis are _not_ good at: - Multi-language versions maintenance of the same subject page - Output to print - Output to structured documents - Databases as Wikis (but I don't think that applies here, but it is a subject of extreme interest to me if anybody else is interested) Jay ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Documentation in the future... (from Re: Complaint)
On 1/22/10, Jay Smith wrote: Alexandre's second point can be solved by a Wiki. A Wiki would allow and encourage more people to become involved. However, I am ignorant of exactly what the input / output requirements of the single-source effort are exactly. If possible, can somebody point me to a reference which describes how the documentation project/work itself is being done and what the inputs/outputs are and where they live? IIRC wiki is offline now (that ism the potential documentation host :-P), so I can't point you to the page. We use DocBook/XML for storing original content in English and PO files for storing translation. This is great for translating, because you don't need to manually look for updated pages or watch them all the time. You just see what messages in a PO file are marked as fuzzy (changed) and edit them. The workflow is: Someone edits the original XML file. Translators run a command that updates their translations (in PO files). Then they look at changes (easy to do in any PO editor), apply changes and commit them to Git repository. As a side remark, I'm genuinely not impressed by wiki based documentations. They are not exactly as manageable as I'd like them to be. I'm judging by wiki.scribus.net for example. FLOSS manuals is another example: we actually have a problem figuring out who does what in the Inkscape manual, because despite of being told to people silently edit something somewhere and never introduce themselves or tell about their plans, so clashes are inevitable. Alexandre ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Loading/indexing fonts everytime GIMP starts
On 1/22/10, Programmer In Training wrote: time I open it. Sure it takes longer to open GIMP by doing that, but I like having all my fonts available all the time. Unique again :) The GIMP is the only program I'm aware of that allows you to specify an extra, alternative font directory. Oh, Scribus does it as well, for ages. Alexandre ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 8:41 AM, BGP bigsk...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure you folks are all experts at GIMP but I've found it to be a very hard to learn how to use. But how many hundreds of hours did it take you to learn how to use it? It depends what you mean by learn how to use it. GIMP is just a tool, what you can do with it depends on your creativity and skill as well. In other words, do you want to know Where can I define a layer mask? or do you want to know What is a layer mask and why would I want to use one? If the latter, then you don't necessarily need a GIMP tutorial as much as basics of digital image manipulation which would apply to almost any similar programs. Also, one option for dealing with tutorials that assume you're using an old version is to use an old version. You may be able to learn GIMP 2.4 and then make the transition to GIMP 2.6 more easily. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Loading/indexing fonts everytime GIMP starts
On 1/22/2010 10:44 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On 1/22/10, Programmer In Training wrote: time I open it. Sure it takes longer to open GIMP by doing that, but I like having all my fonts available all the time. Unique again :) I am definitely the most unique individual you'll ever meet. (: The GIMP is the only program I'm aware of that allows you to specify an extra, alternative font directory. Oh, Scribus does it as well, for ages. I'll have to see if there is a Windows port until I can get FreeBSD up and running. -- PIT signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint
I'm guessing that there are very few people who know how to use every feature of GIMP. And probably even fewer that actually use every feature of GIMP in whatever task they do. You can learn what you need to do with a little work and not a lot of time once you get the idea of layers and channels sorted out. That would be the first thing to figure out IMHO. Then just learn what you need to do as you need to do it. Jay Smith wrote: On 01/22/2010 09:58 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On 1/22/10, BGP wrote: I'm sure you folks are all experts at GIMP but I've found it to be a very hard to learn how to use. But how many hundreds of hours did it take you to learn how to use it? Learning is something you never stop to do. If you stopped learning, you are dead and the coffin with your body is about to be put six feet underground. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint
Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 8:41 AM, BGP bigsk...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure you folks are all experts at GIMP but I've found it to be a very hard to learn how to use. But how many hundreds of hours did it take you to learn how to use it? It depends what you mean by learn how to use it. GIMP is just a tool, what you can do with it depends on your creativity and skill as well. I'm actually tempted to suggest something like Gimp - the Zen Way or something like that! ;-) At times, I just play around with the features, just to see what's possible - and sometimes with surprising results. I came up with things you probably won't find in any tutorial. Just my 2 cents, Claus -- Blog http://artificial10.wordpress.com/ Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/claus_01/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Complaint
I can't read the original message. I'm posting from gimpusers.com and it's not available from there. But if I'm not mistaken the complaint was that GIMP was hard to learn and part of the problem was tutorials being out of date. There's plenty if you know where to find them. I posted this earlier but might as well post again. http://gimp-tutorials.net/ http://www.gimp.wisdomplug.com/ http://gtuts.com/ http://youtube.com/gimptricks http://youtube.com/jxtutorials The last two are video tutorials. GIMPtricks is me. Gimp wisdom plug is a site that gathers links to gimp tutorials from all over the internet. You can stumble on good and recent or bad or old tutorials, but there are a lot there on that site. There is lots more on youtube. Unfortunately there are a lot of videos where people are babbling and mumbling and being plain unclear or worse, telling you the wrong way of doing something. But there are lots of excellent videos as well. Gtuts doesn't have many tutorials, but they are all excellent. If you're willing to spend money I can recommend the VTC training videos for the basics (on gimp 2.6). But I found it covered GIMP from a photoshop point of view. More thorough is Akkana Peck's book. Also for beginners but you learn much more for half the price. It's on gimp 2.4 but I found it easy to follow since 2.4 and 2.6 aren't that much different. -- jolie (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
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GIMP is very intuitive if you play with it. Watching videos help. The desk top could do with more reference points (e.g. the text box reflecting the size of the font...adding text to the right size id taking a lot of fiddling for me at the moment) From: gimp-user-boun...@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu [mailto:gimp-user-boun...@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Claus Cyrny Sent: Saturday, 23 January 2010 8:29 AM To: Paul Hartman Cc: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 8:41 AM, BGP mailto:bigsk...@gmail.com bigsk...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure you folks are all experts at GIMP but I've found it to be a very hard to learn how to use. But how many hundreds of hours did it take you to learn how to use it? It depends what you mean by learn how to use it. GIMP is just a tool, what you can do with it depends on your creativity and skill as well. I'm actually tempted to suggest something like Gimp - the Zen Way or something like that! ;-) At times, I just play around with the features, just to see what's possible - and sometimes with surprising results. I came up with things you probably won't find in any tutorial. Just my 2 cents, Claus -- Blog http://artificial10.wordpress.com/ Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/claus_01/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Plugins
I've noticed there are a lot of plugins that are available for GIMP. Say for example you find a gradient plugin. Where do you install it? ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Plugins
I've noticed there are a lot of plugins that are available for GIMP. Say for example you find a gradient plugin. Where do you install it? Go to edit - preferences - folders. There you see the path to the folders where you can put gimp resources in. These are just folders on your computer. In preferences you can see where on your computer they are. A gimp brush file should be put in the brushes folder, note that photoshop brushes can be used too. A gimp script, (a file that ends with .scm )should be placed in the scripts folder, a plug-in, or python script in the plug-in folder, a gradient file in the gradients folder etc etc. -- jolie (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Plugins
BGP wrote: I've noticed there are a lot of plugins that are available for GIMP. Say for example you find a gradient plugin. Where do you install it? ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user I can strongly recommend Grokking the Gimp by Carey Bunks. I guess this will answer about any of your question. You can find it here: http://gimp-savvy.com/BOOK/index.html HTH, Claus -- Blog http://artificial10.wordpress.com/ Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/claus_01/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
