Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-08-01 Thread Chris Mohler
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Michael Schumacher wrote: >> Enter it as a request for enhancement (RFE) in bugzilla, and then post >> to the developer list about it > > The other way round, please - first discuss it on the list, and then enter an > enhancement request into Bugzilla. But not on

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-08-01 Thread Michael Schumacher
> Von: "Liam R E Quin" > Enter it as a request for enhancement (RFE) in bugzilla, and then post > to the developer list about it The other way round, please - first discuss it on the list, and then enter an enhancement request into Bugzilla. -- Regards, Michael __

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-08-01 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Liam R E Quin wrote: >> I did suggest that the export filename/options should be recorded as >> part of the XCF project data -- what say you to that? > > I think it would be a good idea It's what Inkscape does with its own SVG files. Indeed, very useful. > and pro

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-08-01 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2013-08-01 at 06:35 -0700, Richard Gitschlag wrote: > > You might have overlooked one minor (but critical) element about my > workflow: I generally only do one image export per GIMP session. So > EVERY export is "the first time" Yes, that's true. > I did suggest that the export fi

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-08-01 Thread Richard Gitschlag
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and > lasting solution > From: l...@holoweb.net > To: strata_ran...@hotmail.com > CC: jvrom...@squirrel.nl; gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 09:14:28 -0400 > > as with control-s a

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-08-01 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2013-07-29 at 08:49 -0700, Richard Gitschlag wrote: > Y'know, I cannot think of any situation in my personal workflow where Ctrl+E > versus Ctrl+Shift+E creates a tangible difference in behavior. as with control-s and control-S, there's no difference the first time, only on subsequent ti

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-08-01 Thread Dirk
I see there is still some effort in dragging me into your narcissistic bickering. You guys use the chroot howto I supplied or go with the new design. End of story. Dirk ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-07-29 Thread Kokopalen
El 29/07/2013 20:27, "Alexandre Prokoudine" escribió: > What, the amazing > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/04/msg00265.html thread is > back? Oh, Dirk :) Looking at that link maybe Microsoft didn't hire that people. Probably they just exported them from their staff to save resources (so

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-07-29 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Stephen Allen wrote: > It's a mistake only in the eyes of a vocal few, who never have used GIMP > in a professional work-flow. It's not a huge change, so either adapt, > change to a simpler editor, or get used to it. Staying with one version > forever pretty much i

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-07-29 Thread Johan Vromans
Richard Gitschlag writes: >> There's much to be said for the new behaviour. It would be better if >> Ctrl-E just used the filename and properties from the imported file. The >> first time it may even show a "File exists, overwrite" dialog. >> Currently, Ctrl-E and Shift-Ctrl-E open the same expor

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-07-29 Thread Stephen Allen
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 01:55:16AM +0200, Dirk wrote: > On 07/29/13 00:29, Bob Long wrote: > >Paul Cartwright wrote, > > > >>On 07/28/2013 02:58 PM, Kasim Ahmic wrote: > >>>Anyway, if the save vs. export thing causes such a problem, then people > >>>could just install a plugin that removes the new

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-07-29 Thread Richard Gitschlag
> From: jvrom...@squirrel.nl > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 08:21:40 +0200 > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple > and lasting solution > > Dirk writes: > > There's much to be said for the new

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-07-29 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 07/28/2013 09:42 PM, Bob Long wrote: >> I use command keys like CTRL-S, but not sure how to re-define it to >> > save-export-clean.. > See if Edit|Keyboard Shortcuts helps! thank you! -- Paul Cartwright ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-07-28 Thread Johan Vromans
Dirk writes: > The whole situation boils down to the lack of character that is > necessary for admitting a mistake and reversing this change in the > workflow. There's much to be said for the new behaviour. It would be better if Ctrl-E just used the filename and properties from the imported file

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-07-28 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 3:55 AM, Dirk wrote: > Needless to say I /still/ clicked on "Save as..." or "Save". Just use Ctrl+S. It's handy. > The whole situation boils down to the lack of character that is necessary > for admitting a mistake and reversing this change in the workflow. You won't get

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-07-28 Thread Bob Long
Paul Cartwright wrote, > On 07/28/2013 08:31 PM, Ofnuts wrote: >> On 07/29/2013 01:55 AM, Dirk wrote: >>> >>> Needless to say I /still/ clicked on "Save as..." or "Save". >>> >> >> You *click*? Never learned Ctrl-S or Ctrl-E? (and you can probably >> redefine the Ctrl-S shortcut to be 'file-export

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-07-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 07/28/2013 08:31 PM, Ofnuts wrote: > On 07/29/2013 01:55 AM, Dirk wrote: >> >> Needless to say I /still/ clicked on "Save as..." or "Save". >> > > You *click*? Never learned Ctrl-S or Ctrl-E? (and you can probably > redefine the Ctrl-S shortcut to be 'file-export') I use command keys like CTRL-

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-07-28 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Ofnuts [07-28-13 20:32]: > On 07/29/2013 01:55 AM, Dirk wrote: > > > >Needless to say I /still/ clicked on "Save as..." or "Save". > > > > You *click*? Never learned Ctrl-S or Ctrl-E? (and you can probably redefine > the Ctrl-S shortcut to be 'file-export') Undoubtedly a windoz uzer. Some of

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-07-28 Thread Ofnuts
On 07/29/2013 01:55 AM, Dirk wrote: Needless to say I /still/ clicked on "Save as..." or "Save". You *click*? Never learned Ctrl-S or Ctrl-E? (and you can probably redefine the Ctrl-S shortcut to be 'file-export') ___ gimp-user-list mailing list L

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-07-28 Thread Dirk
On 07/29/13 00:29, Bob Long wrote: Paul Cartwright wrote, On 07/28/2013 02:58 PM, Kasim Ahmic wrote: Anyway, if the save vs. export thing causes such a problem, then people could just install a plugin that removes the new functionality and restores the old one. That way, your workflow isn't

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-07-28 Thread Bob Long
Paul Cartwright wrote, > On 07/28/2013 02:58 PM, Kasim Ahmic wrote: >> Anyway, if the save vs. export thing causes such a problem, then people >> could just install a plugin that removes the new functionality and restores >> the old one. That way, your workflow isn't affected and you get all the

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-07-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 07/28/2013 02:58 PM, Kasim Ahmic wrote: > Anyway, if the save vs. export thing causes such a problem, then people could > just install a plugin that removes the new functionality and restores the old > one. That way, your workflow isn't affected and you get all the new features > of 2.8. go a

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-07-28 Thread Kasim Ahmic
Ahh I see. So would this allow the user to have two version of GIMP installed? Anyway, if the save vs. export thing causes such a problem, then people could just install a plugin that removes the new functionality and restores the old one. That way, your workflow isn't affected and you get all t

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-07-28 Thread Dirk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroot On 07/28/13 20:35, Kasim Ahmic wrote: So what exactly does this do? Does it lock GIMP 2.6 onto your machine and not allow you to upgrade to 2.8, or what? Sorry, I'm mainly a Windows user :P Sent from my iPod On Jul 27, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Dirk wrote: Hel

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-07-28 Thread Dirk
chroot changes the root directory for the process (in this case Gimp) from "/" to another path. debootstrap installs a minimal linux and Gimp 2.6 into that new root path. So you are running a distribution inside a distribution. But it is not like a VM because no hardware is emulated. The dis

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-07-28 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Kasim Ahmic wrote: > So what exactly does this do? Does it lock GIMP 2.6 onto your machine and not > allow you to upgrade to 2.8, or what? Chroot allows running an operating system within an operating system, in an isolated environment. Typically this is done for

Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-07-28 Thread Kasim Ahmic
So what exactly does this do? Does it lock GIMP 2.6 onto your machine and not allow you to upgrade to 2.8, or what? Sorry, I'm mainly a Windows user :P Sent from my iPod On Jul 27, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Dirk wrote: > Hello, > > it has now been months that Gimp developers seem to have decided tha

[Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-07-28 Thread Dirk
Hello, it has now been months that Gimp developers seem to have decided that their "product vision" in Gimp2.8 (debian/unstable) is more relevant than the workflow of their users. People who use Gimp *a lot* keep clicking "Save as" instead of "Export" because that is what they're used to. Be