Re: [Goanet]Re: Al Qaeda in Europe.

2005-07-11 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This sorry man, has gone on record that he would not be part of of any forum, that contained Mervyn Lobo and Gabe Menezes. He Categorically, stated that he would put us on his spam list. Am I surprised that he has resurrected himself again? Not

Re: [Goanet] How will the left wingers spin this?

2005-07-11 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I disagree. He is simply expressing his point of view and a criticism of the current anti-terrorism policies, which are obviously not working. Mario responds: Of course he is expressing his point of view, as are we all, but his point of view, which

Re: [Goanet]Re: How will the left wingers spin this?

2005-07-11 Thread Mario Goveia
--- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please do not try to isolate Fred. I am proud to say that I have a very high regard for Tariq Ali, a fellow left winger. I have know him since student days in London. I believe that he has an excellent intellect and that is right and that you are wrong

Re: [Goanet]Troops to quit Iraq!

2005-07-11 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leaked document reveals move to bring troops home by Christmas. Mario clarifies this piece of propaganda: Goanetters who haven't already caught on to the relentless anti-American propaganda of Gabe need to read all his posts with an eye to his

Re: [Goanet]Warped mentality.

2005-07-11 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you believe what Goveia writes; that people like Ali, Fred and myself are prolonging the War in Iraq. Judge for yourself these rumblings. Mario replies: No one who opposes the US-led war against terrorism can then turn around and claim that they

[Goanet]Why terrorism works

2005-07-11 Thread Mario Goveia
The following column amplifies what some posters on Goanet have already confirmed: terrorism works in intimidating some people who prefer the temporary stability of appeasement. Why Terrorism Works By Alan M. Dershowitz July 8, 2005 Within a day of the horrific multiple bombings in London,

Re: [Goanet] Siege mentality.

2005-07-11 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For a change is used because we need a change in policy. The present anti-terrorism policy is not effective in catching those who are responsible for the past and ongoing acts of terrorism. Those in power are incompetent at catching Bin Laden, Al-

Re: [Goanet]Al Qaeda in Europe.

2005-07-11 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One charlatan on this forum stated that Ken Livingston has changed his stance! Mario replies: Gabe is talking about me, but is afraid to say so. Here are the facts. London Mayor Ken Livingstone is infamous for honoring the worst Islamo-fascist Imams

Re: [Goanet]Re: How will the left wingers spin this?

2005-07-11 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Nasci Caldeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that Tariq Ali is an Islamo-Fascist propagandist! His article as quoted by Fred, is entirely sectarian and does not take into account the 'other side of the equation'; like what the non muslims have been saying all the while. Though some

Re: [Goanet]Economic migrant

2005-07-11 Thread Mario Goveia
Salus Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Gabe, the subject and issue aside, I firmly believe that every Goan who is out of Goa is an economic migrant, and that includes you, whether you say or believe otherwise. Its no shame. Mario adds: Good point, Salus, and how is it anyone's

Re: [Goanet]PM slams London blasts

2005-07-11 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario is good, no fantastic at 'spiel'. I was in the Royal Air Force, could have been called up at anytime for combat duty. Mario replies: Gabe, your alleged service in the RAF does not seem to have taught you anything. Unlike the real Brits who all

Re: [Goanet]PM slams London blasts

2005-07-09 Thread Mario Goveia
--- joseph fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why dont you then quit your British citizenship and move over to France/Germany? Mario adds: That is precisely where Gabe will feel most comfortable, Joe. That is, until the Islamo-fascists get to those countries as well.

Re: [Goanet]Re: How will the left wingers spin this?

2005-07-09 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sure everyone read, with intent the article posted; everyone tends to read Fred's posts written or copied and pasted. Mario replies: What Gabe Menezes, who blames the cowardly attack on innocent civilians in London on Tony Blair, is referring

Re: [Goanet] Siege mentality.

2005-07-09 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Murderous terrorists must be punished. They ought to be the focus of those in power for a change. Mario replies: This is excellent, but the caveat for a change is puzzling. Who in power, other than the feckless non-coalition Europeans like France,

Re: [Goanet]Re: How will the left wingers spin this?

2005-07-09 Thread Mario Goveia
Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tariq Ali is both a left-winger and of Muslim origin. In my view, the point he makes below need to be taken note of, rather than going along solely with the version largely emerging from the dominant media perspective.-FN

Re: [Goanet]PM slams London blasts

2005-07-08 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabe Menezes said: The big powers, such as Germany and France as well as many others stayed out. Their citizens are sleeping happy while we have to live with fear. Gabe, Why do you consider Germany and France to be big powers? Peter Mario

Re: [Goanet]Al Qaeda in Europe.

2005-07-08 Thread Mario Goveia
--- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vis a vis the post below, I believe your attitude towards Blair's unjustified attack on Iraq is entirely realistic and reflects the majority position in the UK. Mario replies: If that were the majority position in the UK, then how come Blair was

Re: [Goanet]Caste and Goanet

2005-07-08 Thread Mario Goveia
Very good, George. I'm glad to see you have retained your sense of humor, what with all the weeping and gnashing of teeth at what the evil USA is doing to Saddam The Great, and the poor Iraqi Sunnis who now face the depressing fate that they are no better than the Shia and Kurds and can no longer

Re: [Goanet]PM slams London blasts

2005-07-08 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Viviana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabe Menezes wrote: ...The big powers, such as Germany and France as well as many others stayed out. Their citizens are sleeping happy while we have to live with fear. HI Gabe - Without entering into a discussion about Iraq, I shall take issue with

Re: [Goanet]How will the left wingers spin this?

2005-07-08 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: duda, You lost all credibility here when you used the name of Jesus Christ to cuss. Everybody is aware that you no longer have any thought process. All you do is repeat what you have heard, just like a parrot does. Mervyn3.0 BTW, you should

Re: [Goanet] Siege mentality.

2005-07-08 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it is quite appropriate for victims to hold their government accountable, in addition, for not protecting them against such an act. Mario opines: So now it is the British government that needs to be held accountable responsible for the

Re: [Goanet]Al Qaeda in Europe.

2005-07-08 Thread Mario Goveia
--- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Halur, What I find really surprising is that the mighty USA can do wonders in space technology but can't get Bin Laden. Are they really trying hard? Mario responds: Cornel, first let me say I'm happy that none of you were anywhere near the cowardly

RE: [Goanet]Al Qaeda in Europe.

2005-07-08 Thread Mario Goveia
--- rene barreto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You being a responsible , British Goan gentleman - should be careful what you write or what you say. Mario asks: Rene, do you have any idea what you are talking about?

Re: [Goanet]Re Al Queda in Europe.

2005-07-08 Thread Mario Goveia
--- gjlf labour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We agree with Nasci Caldeira that this is not the time for division howsoever small. This is the time to close ranks against all those who fight for their cause using violence as their misguided weapon. We commiserate with the British people and

[Goanet]How will the left wingers spin this?

2005-07-07 Thread Mario Goveia
The following was just sent to me by an Israeli friend. It reminded me of the comments of some of the virulent anti-American posters on GX: Let's see how the BBC, The Guardian, the NYT, the Toronto Globe Mail, Toronto Star and others on the left will spin the outrage in London. Will they call

RE: [Goanet]Al Qaeda in Europe.

2005-07-07 Thread Mario Goveia
Alfred de Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is'nt your attitude quite defeatist, Gabe (Blaming Tony Blair for the terrorist attacks in London). Coming from an ex-service(?) man, it depresses. Mario adds: This unfortunate attitude blames any and everyone but the perpetrators of this

RE: [Goanet]Al Qaeda in Europe.

2005-07-07 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Nasci Caldeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Gabe, Your sectarian comment: thank you Tony Blair for this, is against the trend of unity and togetherness spoken of and shown by British shadow leaders at this hour of tragedy in London. You owe an apology to the British people and the

Re: [Goanet]Re. Caste... and all that- especially in Marriages

2005-07-05 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Neil Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My opinion is that caste can often (not always) act as a good first filter towards finding a suitable spouse In general, I am personally against casteism, Mario replies: Neil, If you are really against casteism, maybe you should participate in

Re: [Goanet]Trustworthy surnames

2005-06-30 Thread Mario Goveia
--- eric pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stop, Cecil, not even in jest, we should not pick on dear Veronica over pickled english - his is the real thing - Frisian, the Dutch coastal dialect that floated over the Channel to Britain. Near identical to english, its spoken by a quarter of a

Re: [Goanet]Barks from the dark

2005-06-30 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think Helekar is a 'time waster' on this list. I think he is a valuable asset to this list. Mario replies: Though I frequently disagree with Santosh, I have to agree with Cecil. I nominate Santosh as Goanet's Chief of Hoax-Police and Head Fact

Re: [Goanet]Trustworthy surnames

2005-06-30 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A. Veronica Fernandes wrote: The Bhembros, the Mauzos, the Kelekars, the Shivdases and others are not to be trusted anymore. This is my firm opinion. Dear Veronica, 1) Should we stop trusting all people with these surnames? Mario asks: Veronica,

RE: [Goanet]Politically incorrect metaphors

2005-06-29 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Alfred de Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear disseminating Cecil, How would you then explain the admonishment we receive after our carnival orgies, from the Rev. on Ash Wednesday: Form ashes thou came; and to ashes shall thou return... Mario opines: Bamon Alfred, what is there to

Re: [Goanet]Chance v/s Choice

2005-06-29 Thread Mario Goveia
Antonio Menezes wrote: The question , therefore, should be : '' Can a bamon ever become an anticasteist ? '' Mario asks: Antonio, with all due respect, your question is so ridiculous and illogical that I am curious as to whether you want to explain yourself in more detail. How does anyone's

[Goanet]Thousands mob beach in 'diamond' rush

2005-06-29 Thread Mario Goveia
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/nm/20050629/od_nm/india_diamonds_dc_1 An excerpt from the article above: Thousands of people have been flocking to a beach in India's financial hub in a manic diamond rush, but police said Wednesday the stones were fakes and warned them to stay away after

Re: [Goanet]Re: Liberation theology , Marxism

2005-06-28 Thread Mario Goveia
George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sure there were Marxists who supported Liberation Theology but it is false to equate Liberation Theology with Marxism, a fallacy which gained currency with Reagan's myth that Central America was going communist. Mario opines: Maybe Marxist is not

[Goanet]Re: How did science begin?

2005-06-27 Thread Mario Goveia
--- George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't the key issue in understanding the world today 'rich versus poor'? Do you believe that both science and religion should primarily focus on that issue? Why is the 'preferential option for the poor' (liberation theology) rejected by the Catholic

Re: [Goanet]OFF TOPIC: Americans going to Cuba for free education.

2005-06-25 Thread Mario Goveia
My email sarcastically insinuated that anti-Americans like you consider Americans to be stupid. Anyone who knows anything about me knows that your assertion is false. --- Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dudas @ Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Goanet]Spreading common sense

2005-06-25 Thread Mario Goveia
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario: The big difference is in how you say it in the post. If you say be careful of needles, that is indeed a good thing. But if you say that some one got AIDS because he sat on a needle and the story is false --- , that it acquires a

Re: [Goanet]Arch Bishop Millingo

2005-06-25 Thread Mario Goveia
Sorry to disappoint you, Meow, Meow, but one of the TOP Cardinals at the Vatican is Cardinal Lourdaswamy, whom I know personally, have visited in Rome and he reports no such BS about discrimination as you are spreading. If you visit Rome you cannot help but see all the jathwalla clerics all over

Re: [Goanet] Spreading common sense

2005-06-25 Thread Mario Goveia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario Goveia wrote: Hey, Samir. Before you go any further, please check out the definition of a chain letter. Regardless of how fastidious you are about the truth, these things have varying consequences, and I

Re: Fwd: [Goanet]Susie a Goan? Then Sonny is, too.

2005-06-23 Thread Mario Goveia
Westchester, New York, fifteen years ago. eric. Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Goan? Then Sonny is, too. Good point. This may make Sonny Bono a Goan posthumously.

Re: [Goanet]Everyone is a Goan - new urban legend

2005-06-23 Thread Mario Goveia
Hey, George, This will surely get you in trouble with the Goanet Hoax Police, who will censure you for spreading urban legends. --- George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, I was doing some non-historical research at the Panjim Central Library this morning and this is what I learnt:

Re: [Goanet]Seb thinks the US invaded Iraq for oil!

2005-06-23 Thread Mario Goveia
bashan. You can give that to people who follow your ideology. Anyway thanx all the same. PS: Btw you do good cut and paste work. ** Earlier: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote. Basically, countries do what serves their perceived interests. The strong ones have far more options

Re: [Goanet]On the use of aliases

2005-06-23 Thread Mario Goveia
--- jose colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear salus for our collective info.the following from GoaNet: Rules and Regulations Use your real name as the Sender, not an alias. The continual appearance of Milad's posts indicates to me that they have concluded that Milad might be

Re: [Goanet]What if Zubin's heart is in Goa?

2005-06-23 Thread Mario Goveia
--- rene barreto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to take this opportunity of sharing with you my thoughts on Goa and Goans -the question I often ask is - If a Goan decides to settle in Kerala or Maharastra - does he call himself / herself a Kearalite or Maharastrian ? and why does

Re: [Goanet]Susie a Goan? Then Sonny is, too.

2005-06-23 Thread Mario Goveia
Good point. This may make Sonny Bono a Goan posthumously. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario, I heard on this net that Manglorians were originally from Goa. So Susie could be a Goan. Carlos -Original Message- From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org

Re: [Goanet]Brits are the experts on mad cow disease

2005-06-23 Thread Mario Goveia
Hey, Gabe, Doesn't it make sense to you that the US should ask Blighty for help with mad cows, since the Brits have the most experience with mad cows? --- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/business/3229428 Feds skipped key mad cow disease test in

Re: [Goanet]Spreading common sense

2005-06-23 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Seb dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First we cut and paste stupid hoaxes and urban legends to this public forum, then we try to defend them, then we try telling everyone how good it is to watch your behind. Mario advises Seb: Hey, Seb, DON'T watch your behind when you sit in a public

Re: [Goanet]What if Zubin's heart is in Goa?

2005-06-22 Thread Mario Goveia
is a Goan. I heard she's a Mangy. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: No, indeed, 'aapro' Zubin would not qualify as being a Goan, not even if he owned a sumptuous mansion in Arpora. Mario, Zubin never expected long discussions on Goanet on qualifications

Re: [Goanet]Horny Arch Bishop Milingo

2005-06-21 Thread Mario Goveia
Hey, Meow, Meow, where have you been, man? I'm sorry, but I have a problem with people who hide behind nom de plumes, even fanciful and lyrical ones like you came up with. Yeah, I remember the guy who went off the reservation and got himself married, then came to his senses, went to confession

Re: [Goanet]What if Zubin's heart is in Goa?

2005-06-21 Thread Mario Goveia
Rahul, Your post reminds me of those expat Indians who complain that they will never be accepted in their country of choice, no matter how long they live there. Now, you have turned that illogic on it's head by claiming that No, indeed, 'aapro' Zubin would not qualify as being a Goan, not even if

Re: [Goanet]Using common sense for Chain letters

2005-06-21 Thread Mario Goveia
For those who persist in twisting certain low probability occurrences into false allegations of fearmongering, the following URL is that of an Australian provincial government, Victoria, which is hardly in the business of spreading hoaxes: It is titled: Needlestick Injuries

RE: [GOANET] GUARDIANS OF TRUTH?

2005-06-21 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Joe Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: “Chain letter: a letter sent to several persons with a request that each send copies of the letter to an equal number of persons.” - Now, please examine Cynthia’s post, and show me how it meets the above definition, i.e. where she has requested

Re: [Goanet] Debunk hoaxes, then use common sense

2005-06-21 Thread Mario Goveia
I would encourage Santosh and the rest of the hoax police to debunk every myth that comes across Goanet, so that we know fact from fiction. Then I would suggest we use our common sense to see whether any suggestion that may have been made should be kept in mind. There was a good reason why some

Re: [Goanet]All urban legends are not harmful

2005-06-21 Thread Mario Goveia
--- sandeep heble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By pointing out that your story was false, George and Santosh did nothing wrong. Rather, by pointing out that the probability of being infected was low, Santosh tried to neutralize the damage that you may inadvertently have caused and the

Re: [Goanet]OFF TOPIC: Americans going to Cuba for free education.

2005-06-21 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, Cuba is now offering free education to Americans. -snip- Cuba's sophisticated and public medical system is one of the revolution's most notable successes. The country has one of the lowest infant-mortality rate in the Americas and twice as

Re: [Goanet]Seb thinks the US invaded Iraq for oil!

2005-06-21 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Seb dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this mean; US invaded Iraq for Oil??? Sorry to say, but thats how it sounds to me ! Mario replies: Seb, I'm sorry, too, but it sounds the same to many people who know nothing about world affairs, and about who needs oil and who doesn't. These people

Re: [Goanet]One of the mysteries of the universe

2005-06-21 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabriel de Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Civics may have been a subject taught at high school, but has any civic sense been imparted to the students? Such as If I throw my rubbish on the street it might affect some one else? One might expect this sort of behaviour (of chucking

Re: [Goanet]Migration: Home is where the heart is

2005-06-20 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your considered reply to my query. At least you have grasped the substance of my query, unlike Mario who construes any question as an attack on his choice and feels he has to belligerently defend that choice - when in fact there was no attack.

Re: [Goanet] The hoax police do get carried away

2005-06-20 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding Mario's AIDS needles hoax, I have already said all I wanted to say. No amount of post-hoc rationalization can raise that urban legend from the lowly position that it occupies. Mario replies: Santosh, We have already established that I

Re: [Goanet]Re: Migration - Opportunities for children

2005-06-20 Thread Mario Goveia
--- zuz Mari goanet@goanet.org wrote: While here in Toronto kids before they are 12, parents cannot leave them alone but, as soon as they cross 12 then the school hands out condoms and advises they to practice safe sex.. So you can be grandfather before graduation, my conservative views.

Re: [Goanet]OFFTOPIC: Uganda, Church of England, and racism

2005-06-20 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He (Ugandan Bishop) was appointed by our P.M., Tony Blair, from a short list! Did I hear on this forum that Church and Politics should not mix? 10.45am First black Church of England archbishop appointed Simon Jeffery and agencies Friday

[Goanet]The music of Warren Mendonca

2005-06-17 Thread Mario Goveia
The music of Goenkar Warren Mendonca of Auckland, NZ - check it out. www.soundclick.com/bands/2/blackstratblues_music.htm

Re: [Goanet] Frogs, camels and Frenchies

2005-06-17 Thread Mario Goveia
Alfred de Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frogs, personification of ugliness, Mario? You sorely disappoint me. I love the things and never hesitate to kiss them without harbouring an ulterior motive of hoping/expecting them to metamorphose as a royal boy or girl. I eat them too,

Re: [Goanet]RE:Indigo a new Indian budget Airline?

2005-06-17 Thread Mario Goveia
Hey, Phillip, What do you know about the recent report that Dawood Ibrahim was a major investor in Jet Airways. Any truth to that? --- Philip Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are probably right about a bust following the boom. In the U.S. (in the 80s) and in Europe (in the 90s) airline

Re: [Goanet]Malaria AIDS, Africa ... and Goa

2005-06-17 Thread Mario Goveia
Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: United Nations Radio in New York is talking about malaria and Africa's attempt to fight the disease. There's some good news from there, and apparently there are chances of attaining some targets under the Roll-Back Malaria Programme. One

Re: [Goanet]Why can't Zubin Mehta be a Goan?

2005-06-16 Thread Mario Goveia
new bungalows on the mandovi or other villagesi`m not sure that recent acquisition of real-estate in any village qualifies you to be called a true Goan twiga. Quoting Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Goanet]Re: Home is where the heart is

2005-06-16 Thread Mario Goveia
Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Incidentally, isn't the title of this topic misleading? If we adopt a Goa-is-best approach, then shouldn't the title line read 'Home is where our ancestors roots are'? Mario replies: Fred, you were doing fine until you decided to go a step too far.

Re: [Goanet]Subject: Re: Can we dump the legend, and keep the message

2005-06-16 Thread Mario Goveia
--- sandeep heble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the point Dr. Helekar is making is quite clear: why should an anecdote, which can tend to be inspiring by itself, be exaggerated and fabricated and then be presented as fact? Can we not call a legend a legend, a tale a tale, a myth a myth

Re:[Goanet] In America, a balanced perspective on debt

2005-06-16 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Marlon Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I dont give a hoot that people in Iraq may have been suffering under Saddam's rule, just I do not really care about the the genocide in Sudan or the fact that women are being raped over there. This is specially true when it comes to

Re:[Goanet] Some pure baloney in American revisionist history

2005-06-16 Thread Mario Goveia
Santosh, I don't have any more facts than you do on the settlement of North America. I'm sure you know that opinions are not just determined by facts, but by the weight one puts on each fact and on one's context and perspective. So, if you believe that historians, European or otherwise, are any

Re: [Goanet] Finally, some rational dialog on America

2005-06-16 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Marlon Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Likewise, your bunching of groups into two political categories, viz, liberals and conservatives is overly simplistic. There are many of us who would like to see social security, welfare, medicaid and other excuses for excessive government

Re: [Goanet]Home is where the heart is/Melinda Coutinho Powell

2005-06-16 Thread Mario Goveia
--- melinda Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im must confess to being sentimental but not sly.I dont think it is a bad thing to be sentimental. No snide insinuations were made,just some straight from the heart talk.Nothing is aimed /obviously aimed at those who have primary homes else where.

Re: [Goanet] Halleluia, will miracles never cease

2005-06-15 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the contra side, I have many emails too, from silent lurkers who ask - why are we entertaining Mario Goveia. I have decided in the best interests of keeping out garbage, I shall not interact with Mr. Goveia. Mario replies: Halleluia! God

Re: [Goanet]Re: In America, the crows stick to the garbage

2005-06-15 Thread Mario Goveia
, I have noted your disagreements with facets of the administration in the USA. They are more than I expected! Well done! Cornel - Original Message - From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 4:46 PM Cornel, Rebutting the falsehoods of anti-Americans

Re:[Goanet] Some pure baloney in American revisionist history

2005-06-15 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What facts are disputed? How does one know who is right? What is the nature of the bias? Why would European historians be biased against their own kind? Mario replies: You are free to believe any version you please, just don't try to ram it down

Re: [Goanet] Third-party innuendo

2005-06-15 Thread Mario Goveia
Cornel, I'm sorry, my mistake. Mea maxima culpa. Let me review where I went wrong. What you actually said was, P.S. You do have the intellectual in you on some counts I must admit e.g. caste. However, it is generally accepted that the role of the intellectual is to be a critic of his society.

Re: [Goanet]Engelbert Humperdinck - where is Santosh when we need him

2005-06-15 Thread Mario Goveia
Santosh, Would you please confirm or debunk these urban legends, please, before they get out of hand. Now Englebert who does not even acknowledge he is an Indian, as far as I know, and used to be an Anglo-Indian from Chennai, has become a Goan from Cuncolim. --- eric pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Goanet]Can we dump the legend, and keep the message

2005-06-15 Thread Mario Goveia
Santosh, While no one should support spreading something that is false (there goes Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny), would it be possible for you to use your impressive ability to separate fact from fiction to not just debunk urban legends that may conclude with a socially redeeming message or

Re: [Goanet]Home is where the heart is

2005-06-15 Thread Mario Goveia
While I fully agree that Home is where the heart is, I'm getting a little fed-up with the sly sentimentality and the snide insinuations obviously aimed at those of us who have our primary homes elsewhere. Why would anyone who has a choice pick just one place to call home? This is 2005, and the

[Goanet]Indian Carriers Buy $7B Airbus, Boeing Jets

2005-06-14 Thread Mario Goveia
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159522,00.html Click on the link above for full report. An excerpt: Indian airlines grabbed the spotlight on day two of the Paris Air Show on Tuesday, committing to buy about $7 billion in jets from Europe's Airbus and U.S. arch-rival Boeing Co.

Re: [Goanet]In America, the crows stick to the garbage

2005-06-14 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the policing of the Canadian borders, to keep keep likes of you from entering Canada, as well as those who would rather go up North? I have come to the conclusion you envy, the way of life in Canada. With their beautiful houses and wide clean

Re: [Goanet]Acres of Diamonds - is snopes.com fallible?

2005-06-14 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Ashish Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Santosh! By the terming the story an urban legend is an exaggeration in itself. plz read from the links posted, http://library.temple.edu/collections/special_collections/hattie.htm Mario asks: Does this mean that snopes.com is fallible?

Re: [Goanet] In America, an attempt at historical revisionism

2005-06-14 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Professional historians who have studied the history of native Americans have referred to the killing of these indigenous people as genocide or holocaust. For example the historian David Stannard has described the massacres and atrocities

Re: [Goanet]In America, the crows stick to the garbage

2005-06-14 Thread Mario Goveia
Cornel, Rebutting the falsehoods of anti-Americans is the easiest thing I have ever done in my life. It may surprise you to learn that my private emails indicate that those who agree with me feel I am quite capable of taking on the small army of Goan anti-Americans all by myself, just to make it

Re: [Goanet]In America, the crows stick to the garbage

2005-06-14 Thread Mario Goveia
I've heard that even in Canada the crows ignore the garbage and go after the people. --- Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dudes @ Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure the US generates garbage commensurate with the fact that it also generates about a quarter of the world's

Re: [Goanet]Anti-smoking fascism

2005-06-13 Thread Mario Goveia
in the US than non-smokers, and helmet and seat-belt use is also mandatory almost everywhere. It is only a matter of time before obesity also pays it's fair share. --- Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario Goveia asks: Morality aside, in India who pays for the treatment of the illnesses

Re: [Goanet]Home is where the heart is

2005-06-13 Thread Mario Goveia
I'm glad for you, Cecil. There is no substitute for personal bliss, regardless of where and how we find it. --- Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Over the last few weeks I have seen Goans settled in UK, Canada, USA and Australia compare the advantages and disadvantages of their adopted

Re: [Goanet]One expat's view

2005-06-13 Thread Mario Goveia
Fred, The author was talking about the US, so I assume your query corresponded with that. I don't believe there is any research of the US micro-Goan-community that I know of to answer your question with any validity. What can be said with reasonable certainty is that the oppportunities available

RE: [Goanet]Merrier with more millionaires

2005-06-13 Thread Mario Goveia
Nasci, You are incorrect in stating that there are differing ways at getting at such statistics. The standard criterion to determine whether a person is a millionaire is as follows, and it was mentioned in the report: When it talks of millionaires, the report means high net worth individuals,

Re: [Goanet]In America, the crows stick to the garbage

2005-06-13 Thread Mario Goveia
I want Goanetters to know I don't pay Cornel for bowling that allows me to hit sixers that land outside the stadium. Now to his various claims and canards: 1. He asks in conclusion whether he is missing something because he thinks I am uncritical of America. What he is missing is a mirror that

Re: [Goanet]Native American /American Indians

2005-06-12 Thread Mario Goveia
Tony, I don't believe Red Indians started as a derogatory term, just a descriptive term because of their ruddy complexion relative to the early European settlers. Niggers on the other hand, which derived from negroes, is considered a derogatory term by African Americans when used by others,

Re: [Goanet]Re:: [OFFTOPIC] Canada... and America

2005-06-12 Thread Mario Goveia
to Friedman I'll be sure to copy you. --- Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dudes @ Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I send you copies because you send me articles he has written. The first one you sent me had a falsehood in almost every single paragraph. dudes, I also sent

Re: [Goanet]Put Casteism in history's dustbin

2005-06-10 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Vivian D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the modern world where people are judged by their achievements and not whether they were born to nobility or caste or even the color of their skin. Mario adds: All I can add is, Amen! However, one person responded to one of my posts on

Re: [Goanet]Re: [OFFTOPIC] Canada... and America

2005-06-10 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Bosco D'Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't mean the Top Thrill Dragster, the one-time fastest and highest Roller Coaster located at Cedar Point, Sandusky.;-) I can't handle the blood-rush after one of those rides. Pleeez !! Mario replies: Cornel, are you reading this to add to

Re: [Goanet]Anti-smoking fascism

2005-06-10 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vidyadhar Gadgil wrote: There seems to be a wilful blindness among our citizens regarding the government proposal to ban images of smoking in film. Rather than condemning the step, they cheer our would-be censors on. Cecil: Indeed yes. How

Re: [Goanet]Goa's Caste System - of (Church), Gaumkars, Bamons Chaddis

2005-06-10 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Antonio Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I simply cannot understand the mentality of the bamon padri (the chaddi padri appeared on the scene much later ). A padri by profession is supposed to look after the spiritual welfare of his flock. Mario replies: It's very simple, Antonio. They

Re: [Goanet]Re:: [OFFTOPIC] Canada... and America

2005-06-10 Thread Mario Goveia
Mervyn, You can defend Haroon Siddiqui of the Toronto Star all you like, but he is a prevaricating Saddam-supporting propagandist who cannot respond when I point out the numerous blatant lies he writes in his columns. I send you copies because you send me articles he has written. The first one

Fwd: Re: [Goanet]Re: [OFFTOPIC] Canada... and America

2005-06-08 Thread Mario Goveia
By the way, as Mervyn well knows, I have often tried to debate Haroon Siddiqui by pointing out his blatant anti-American falsehoods, but he typically hides under his desk and refuses to respond. --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:41:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario

Re: [Goanet]Re: [OFFTOPIC] Canada... and America

2005-06-08 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well said, Bosco! Since we are on the topic of reconciling, I also want to ask the Americans here to do something about the terrible situation in Guantánamo Bay. Mario replies: Natan Sharanski, who was a prisoner at a Soviet Gulag, and knows a lot

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