FWIW my answer to "I want a really awesome debugging experience" is that
you shouldn't be doing any debugging in the browser in the first place,
e.g. whether it's old-school DevMode or SuperDevMode or Typescript etc.
This is what Tessell allowed (apologies for the self-promotion, although I
am
Interesting; I had not seen JSweet before.
The javac -> TypeScript -> JS approach is surprisingly parallel (albeit
with different selections) to J2CL's ecj -> closure -> JS.
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On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:50 AM Jens wrote:
> Given that Elemental 2 is developed
I agree with Thomas and Daniel that it's good to avoid putting more
"official" work into the generators, and encouraging people to move off.
But I think I agree more with Colin and Jens that, one way or another,
people are using generators today, and will be using them for awhile (e.g.
if they
> Meanwhile I will revive my own generator project.
I'll take the opportunity to hop on a soapbox, but the "closed
source/eventually open source" model is a curious trend that I think I've
only seen in the GWT community (are their other examples?)...
Musing, it probably stems from Google setting
going be extra work to move the
> development outside; which doesn't make sense at this stage.
>
> The big things we recently developed for GWT, JsInterop and SuperDevMode
> and they were all open source from day one.
>
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 5:34 AM, Stephen Haberman <
> st
t js wrapper to gwt3
>> On 16 Nov 2015 11:29, "Robert Stone" <rob.a.st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 15 November 2015 15:37:29 UTC, Stephen Haberman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My worry about
This is an interesting question (what to use for a greenfield GWT
project)...
> UiBinder: Would need a rewrite to use APT. I guess no one has looked into
> it yet. One main issue is that APT won't get triggered when updating
> resources (*.ui.xml)
>
Yeah, I would probably skip APT and just use
>
> The important thing is to keep an open mind, not trying to force JS
> frameworks into our current best practices, and willingness to be inspired
> by the best practices of the chosen JS framework.
>
> Our best practices has emerged from the constraints of GWT, and those
> constraints has just
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1yReUCGwGvrqscLu1EAyYRPrr0ceEHLE
Thanks!
I feel dumb, as the gwt-contrib posts were going under the Forums tab in my
gmail account, and so I missed the original email/thread go buy. I only
stumbled across this thread later via the web.
I'll start
Sounds like I'm late to party; I missed the 2015 meetup videos, does
someone have a link? (That will teach me to not login to G+ very
often...well played, Google...)
Not that my opinion matters very much (vs. the GWT team who's doing all the
actual work), but I'll +100 any plans for
Sorry for the cheap bug report, but on GWT master, the innocent looking:
final ListString f = newArrayList();
f.sort((a, b) - a.compareTo(b));
Will result in a compiler NPE:
Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
at
Lambdas work fine in master.
Great! Thanks!
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Just curious, but what is the state of lambdas on master?
Probably works? Known broken in some hairy boundary cases? Being
used in production?
Thanks,
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I'm attempting to follow along. No real input, other than I did
not realize the (perhaps obvious) nuance of JS interop handling
both importing (e.g. wrapping DOM and existing libraries) and
exporting. And how callbacks are both-ish. Huh.
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'Goktug
Hi James,
This seemed like a pretty interesting thread. Do you still
suspect it's an issue?
I remember turning on the right logging ~6-12 months ago to see
files get incrementally compiled/etc. with SDM first came out,
but it's been awhile...
I use Eclipse, so if you can refresh my memory with
I use the latest trunk and also SDM with incremental compile. @Goktug
could you please provide a sample project where obfuscation works
which has the correct configuration?
FWIW I'm using a snapshot of GWT master from ~last week, SDM, Chrome
40.0.2214.28, and when I set a breakpoint in
Wow, that's great, Jens! Thanks for digging in to this.
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So I think we really have a GWT issue.
Great detective work, Jens.
I agree, it looks like these type parameters only cause confusion to
the GWT compiler, and not to regular the Java/Eclipse compilers.
Given that GWT embeds JDT, I wonder if it's a bug in the version of JDT
we're currently
Okay, okay, sorry for all the emails, but I ditched sourceLevel 1.8 and am
now just playing with the new cached-SDM...
Wow. It's awesome. Great work!
I was hesitant to move our app over to 2.7.0, but this, this is nice.
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Maybe I'll go try and build a 1.8 version of Guava and see if the
issue is in Guava itself? Not sure.
I was pretty surprised to find that Guava doesn't compile for 1.8:
https://github.com/google/guava/issues/1738
But not at all for the reason/compile errors I was getting (which were
related
Hi,
Given that the reuse-SDM cache patch (+ various Java 8 patches, hot
damn) landed, I tried our app with master. I'm seeing two issues:
1. A transient/only-happened-once ConcurrentModificationException:
https://gist.github.com/stephenh/6e32c3077b67769e46cb
2. Some compile errors related to
Note that in my previous email, both errors came from running
(Super)DevMode, but FWIW the Guava errors also occur in a regular
production compile (which I was not anticipating).
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Hi,
Given that the reuse-SDM
Note that in my previous email, both errors came from running
(Super)DevMode, but FWIW the Guava errors also occur in a regular
production compile (which I was not anticipating).
Ah, crap, I had thought checked for this, but I had mistakenly introduced a
2nd variable: source level.
In
I will try to summarize my thought process and different options that
I have played with so that you could get a better understanding where
I'm coming from and I hope it will provide good documentation for
future.
Thanks for the email; I think the format was really useful.
One may argue
When running DevMode (the Swing UI) with gwt-2.7.0-rc1 installed from
Maven central, without gwt-codeserver on my classpath, I get:
Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
com/google/gwt/dev/util/arg/JsInteropMode
at com.google.gwt.dev.codeserver.Options.init(Options.java:79)
at
if (child.getName().equals(.svn)) // hardcoded filter here
Just curious, but didn't svn change (maybe a year ago or so?) to only
using one top-level .svn folder, similar to Git's top-level .git
folder, and not having .svn littered throughout the file system?
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I think it's in master now (commit 14f27064497f1171907d0ecbe01a4d2991a7a855)
Oh shoot; I was wondering if that's what Roberto was referring to.
I assumed 2.7-beta1 already had that fix, because I saw it on the
release/2.7 branch in gerrit (and a few commits down/non-cherry picked).
However,
However, right, it didn't actually make it into 2.7-beta1.
Crap. Eclipse was lying to me, and had a 2.6.x source jar hooked up to
gwt-dev-2.7-beta1.jar (don't ask) when I pulled up PersisentUnitCache
in my project to check for the change.
So: a) 2.7-beta1 does have John's 14f2706 fix, and b)
I think that CL is only on master. Thats why I said try master and if
it works send me a cherry pick for the CL :)
$ git branch -a --contains 14f27064497f11
master
* release/2.7
remotes/gerrit/HEAD - gerrit/master
remotes/gerrit/master
remotes/gerrit/release/2.7
I also opened the
Hi,
I'm trying out GWT 2.7.0-beta1, and am seeing kind of odd recompile
times. (Our app is ~70k LOC, and the main/only generators are GWT-RPC
and UiBinder.)
The first compile take 40s. Then, only changing a single char in
a .java file, the first recompile takes 20s. Then each next one takes
...and, right now, I can't even get the 3s time to kick in again.
Ah ha...seems to be something with the PersistentUnitCache.
When the recompile is 10-20s every time, I see output of:
Wrote 4944 units to persistent cache
Wrote 1 units to persistent cache
(reload)
Wrote 4944
depends on how many files are modified [+ invalidations]
Yeah, sorry, I should have mentioned I've only been changing one file,
just adding/removing a character in a string.
John detected that behavior in the persistent unit cache and has a
fix for it.
Great! I'll try it out when it hits
- User starts loading old nocache.js, you tell load balancers to
redirect to the new app, the nocache.js runs and tries to load an old
permutation from a new server where it doesn't exist.
Right.
I suppose Stephen's deployment strategy is different
Yeah, slightly.
Currently, if we have
Hey,
During our deployments, we have a small window where both old/new
servers could potentially be available. I'm trying to hook into the
failure of when a client loads the .nocache.js from one version,
but tries to get the permutation from another.
Currently what happens is that the
Hey,
I know FF17 is pretty old, but do we care about breakages in it? We
noticed some client-side ClassCastExceptions in our logs that are
from a user on FF17. The app works fine in FF latest.
The exception is odd, because, according to the de-obfuscated stack
trace, given a class hierarchy
It might be related to the bug[1] that mdempsky@ filed to Firefox
earlier. The Firefox's VM was causing an incorrect polymorphic
dispatch sometimes.
[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=872796
Ah, nice!
Thanks (Jens too) for saving me the trouble of trying to reproduce
that. I
Hey,
I was trying SDM on a project today, via the -superDevMode flag that
was added to DevMode (great work).
It worked really well on one project, and then on another I kept
getting the GWT needs (re)compiled that's from the old
module.nocache.js.
Turns out I had a module.nocache.js.gz artifact
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LEP0H-6z__Mog0QTt-NAFpllcOGu7X5gr7KR32BIT4Y/edit?usp=sharing
Spiffy.
Of my excitement, 20% of it is because I like this feature, and 80% of
it is because there is actually a public design doc before the CL hits
trunk. :-)
Really cool. I like the keyspace
The point was more about Orkut announcement doesn't change anything
and cannot effect the decision from our perspective; as long as the
system is running we need to take care of it.
Right, sorry...I thought that the annoucement was exactly that: it
would no longer be running, soon (end of
My point was more about, don't think Orkut announcement as we
can't delete it now as Orkut is no more; I might have misinterpreted
that.
Cool, that makes sense. Maybe you can give us a heads up when Orkut is
gone from the Google repo, and then we can revisit PotentialElement's
future.
I
Hi Daniel,
If you want to get your changes into GWT 2.6.1, they need to get in
before Friday.
Selfishly, our app is depending on this patch now:
https://gwt-review.googlesource.com/#/c/6780/
I know it's not a bug fix, but it's pretty simple; I assume it's find
to cherry pick into 2.6.1? I
We're starting seeing integrations between Gerrit and GitHub
(http://gerrithub.io/)
Ooh, that looks spiffy. Thanks for the link, Thomas.
From Benjamin's reply:
I think other UI frameworks/platforms like AngularJS are gaining more
traction/adoption because they are accessible through
Neither one (depending on your build tool though).
Sure, I get that Maven/Gradle/Ant will go through a copy-to-target step
first, and so not use any src/... artifacts. So, for them, having the
Jetty classloader not use the project classpath makes sense.
But at least we way run DevMode in
Hi Thomas,
(or rather, it'll work too well, and won't detect that something is
missing in WEB-INF/lib.
I'm attempting to follow along, but classloader semantics are fun, so
apologies if I'm wrong somewhere...
So, to clarify, if I have a dependency, say foo.jar, that isn't GWT, and
isn't
Hi Jens,
If thats the case you might break people who have final fields whose
types are not compatible to GWT-RPC serialization.
If this is happening today, and this fix started serializing EnumSet
where before it was not, I would again assert the new behavior is the
correct behavior, so the
Hey,
At one time I was shepherding through the GWT-RPC patch for supporting
final fields.
One of the unpleasant aspects of the patch as that, instead of just
fixing the bug, and serializing final fields always, there was a knob
of serialize final fields true, false, and false_nowarn.
This,
Here is the difference in the generated JS. From a ~10/2013 trunk build:
function com_google_gwt_dom_client_StyleInjector_StyleInjectorImpl(){
switch (permutationId) {
case 1:
case 2:
case 3:
return new StyleInjector$StyleInjectorImplIE_0;
}
return new
Yes it sounds like a bug. Want to add that to the issue tracker?
https://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=8575
I've verified that the patch fixes the behavior in our application.
Any good suggestions about how to test this? Or volunteers to review
the patch?
Given it
Hey,
We upgraded to GWT 2.6 last week, and our seeing weirdness with
StyleInjector. Firefox ends up using the StyleInjectImplIE and errors
out because $doc.createStyleSheet is IE only.
FF gets the wrong deferred binding because its permutationId is
undefined, when it should be 0. (We use
and only permutations.js assigns it to another value (but does so
conditionally, so it never *assigns* undefined to
__softPermutationId, it just leaves it not defined).
But line 61:
https://gwt.googlesource.com/gwt/+/master/dev/core/src/com/google/gwt/core/ext/linker/impl/permutations.js
Want to add that to the issue tracker?
Sure, I'll do that soon...
I wonder why more people aren't seeing this? Does it only affect soft
permutations?
Removing collapse-all-properties does fix it.
I'll do that for now and then work on submitting a patch. No idea how I
would add a test for
It's curious, I googled about Java 8 compiler plugins when RayC said
that you talked about a new code-gen feature in Java 8
Ha, yes, that is curious. I guess my memory has never been that great...
I hope it will be formalized in future Java versions
Ah, that makes sense, since APT followed
implemented as a Java 8 compiler plugin (extension point)
Interesting! I had not heard of these before:
http://techbitsfromsridhar.blogspot.com/2013/02/java-compiler-plug-ins-in-java-8-use.html
It looks like these compiler plugins use com.sun packages, and are
not a JSR, which AFAIK means no
Yes. We are planing to revive elemental based on new @JsInterface
proposal and have web-components-like widget system on top of that.
Nice! I'll look forward to your proposal.
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Just curious, but what's the story around templating for Elemental?
Googling around seems like it's not supported by UiBinder. Is there
anything coming along/WIP internally? Will Goktug's new widget proposal
be based on Elemental?
I'm just curious as, after glancing at it again, I finally
Hi Naresh,
Could you please let me know is there any patch available to check
the impact of removing de rpc calls.
I'm glad you're interested in looking in to this.
Unfortunately, I don't really know much about DeRPC. There are probably
others on the gwt-contrib list who do though...we'll see
Never used it
Same here, so +1 to your plans to extract it.
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Hi Rajeev,
Good to hear from you.
We're in the process of moving the GPE source to github (and
converting the build system to Maven/Tycho so that external
developers can build it) , which is why that repo hasn't been updated
in a long time. I'll update the homepage to reflect that.
Sounds
have not been updated to @GWT_GITREV@.
Thanks! Good catch.
https://gwt-review.googlesource.com/#/c/5194/
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I was going to ask how active the GPE project is...is the last commit
really from October 2012?
https://code.google.com/p/google-plugin-for-eclipse/source/list
That doesn't seem right, but AFAICT there isn't another source repo?
https://developers.google.com/eclipse/community
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FWIW I like 0.0.0 because it strongly differentiates hand-made/master
releases vs. official/release branch releases.
And it always sorts before release versions, which
I was thinking about something like that too. I actually kinda like
it, and it gives an easy monotonic counter for tracking master.
Agreed.
I don't think we're using proper git tags yet. The 'tags' currently
in the tree for 2.5.1, etc that were imported from SVN are actually
just regular
Wow, that sounds awesome, Matthew. Great work. I'm looking forward to
hopefully *not* triggering this great feedback. :-)
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Hey,
So, I was toying with changing git.version over to being based on
git describe output, instead of having to pass in GWT_VERSION.
The default behavior of git describe is to fail if no tags are found,
which it does on master, and this is fine because then we want the
0.0.0 version for
AFAICT, this error only appears if you converted a git svn repo to
plain git (i.e. added the googlesource repo and simply do not use
git svn any longer)
Ah, you are right! That makes more sense...I was fairly incredulous
that no one else would have noticed this by now.
and I'm not sure it's
Hey,
I was building GWT master (ant dist-dev) and am getting an error in
common.ant.xml when it tries to call git svn info, as it must think
my working copy is still from the old svn repo.
I can work on changing this over to just a git describe, but was
curious if anyone had ran into this
The closest is Daniel was working on adding a commit-id file
Cool, thanks for the link, I had not seen that.
Do you know what the idea of the commit-id file was? A replacement for this
gwt.svnrev.filename?
Looking at About.java, I think it makes sense/would be easy to replace
gwt.svnrev with
I find the approach of flatpack-java from Perka interesting.
That does sound nifty; thanks for mentioning it, Jens.
I know everyone is scarred from the SOAP debacle, but I'm still
surprised that there isn't a defacto web API schema by now.
Seems like there have been quite a few attempts ([1]
Seems like there have been quite a few attempts ([1] is nice), but it
doesn't seem like one has ever become widely used.
After looking at flatpack, I remember why I don't think it will take
off: it (AFAIK) assumes the server-side is Java/JPA/annotations/etc.
Swagger looks nice [1] [2] as
Hi John,
Thanks for the great responses.
do you still have to retranslate the *entire* AST to Javascript source (and is
the resulting process still fast if you have to do so)?
Yeah, good question...seems like in an ideal world you could cache the
JS string for each compilation unit and then
Hey John,
it means having an optional compilation path that does not recompile
the entire world (as the current monolithic compile path does) and
instead tries to recompile just files (or or modules) that have
changed.
Spiffy! Out of curiosity, would the API look something like:
Hi John,
Thanks for reminding me about this...
The problem is let's say you change file A.
Two things:
First is that AFAIK GWT already does this...see the Dependencies class,
which I became familiar with when trying to build a list of dependencies
for Scala-GWT ASTs so they could fit in this
Hi Brian,
Our plan is to make Super Dev Mode compile faster.
Have you gotten to discovering what parts are the slow ones?
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because I don't want to spend so much extra time working on something
that people don't really care about.
I'm sure many people, current GWT committers included, care very much
about bug fixes/improvements to the stack trace deobfuscation code.
Unfortunately, I doubt that translates to
Hi Alex,
By the way, who wants to try it? Please get it touch with me (alex
at typeracer.com), and I will email you my patch so you can see for
yourself how awesome it is.
Instead of emailing a patch, how about just uploading it here:
https://gwt-review.googlesource.com/#/
I do not think
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My take is that it's just
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Hi Goktug,
Being said that, rest assured, I wouldn't -1 for just not using it.
Good, good--sorry if I got
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Okay, I think this is ready for another cursory review--I'm still mulling
about how to do the javadocs.
Also
Stephen Haberman has posted comments on this change.
Change subject: Optimize initializing fields at the top scope.
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