Re: [GROW] IETF 119, GROW, draft-ietf-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats-01, draft-liu-grow-bmp-stats-reports-00

2024-04-30 Thread Job Snijders
Dear Mukul, Thanks for posting a new version of the document. Can you expand the "IANA Considerations" section a bit more? Precise instructions from which sub-registries exactly codepoints need to be allocated with what names would be good. Right now the section reads: "This document requests

[GROW] Working Group Call for Adoption for draft-hmntsharma-bmp-tcp-ao (start 29/Apr/2024 end 15/May/2024)

2024-04-29 Thread Job Snijders
Dear GROW, The author of draft-hmntsharma-bmp-tcp-ao asked whether the GROW working group could consider adoption of their internet-draft. This message is a request to the group for feedback on whether this internet-draft should be adopted. Title: TCP-AO Protection for BGP Monitoring Protocol

Re: [GROW] Peering API side meeting 2024-03-21 minutes

2024-03-21 Thread Job Snijders
Thanks Tom! Looks like it was a good meeting. I’ll wait for a next revision before issuing the call for the working group adoption. Kind regards, Job Co-chair GROW On Thu, 21 Mar 2024 at 16:41, Tom Strickx wrote: > Dear grow members, please find the minutes of the Peering API side meeting >

Re: [GROW] WGADOPTION - draft-spaghetti-grow-bcp-ext-comms - ENDS 04/08/2024 - Apr 8th 2024

2024-03-16 Thread Job Snijders
On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 08:19:42PM -0400, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > > Moreover, we know at least another IXP that dropped support for > Extended Communities 2 years ago with big success, thus adopting > such a practice from other fellow IXPs shouldn’t be of > an issue as long as support for Large

Re: [GROW] Submission of draft-spaghetti-grow-bcp-ext-comms-01

2024-03-16 Thread Job Snijders
On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 07:51:55PM +, Stavros Konstantaras wrote: > Dear colleagues of GROW-WG, > > We (Stavros Konstantaras, Job Snijders and Moyaze Shivji) have submitted the > draft-spaghetti-grow-bcp-ext-comms-00, which you can find it in the following > URL: https://datatrack

Re: [GROW] WGADOPTION - draft-spaghetti-grow-bcp-ext-comms - ENDS 04/08/2024 - Apr 8th 2024

2024-03-15 Thread Job Snijders
Hi Jeff, On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 10:54:54PM -0400, Jeff Haas wrote: > I’m at least 90%, “Meh, whatever “ for the > proposal as long as it doesn’t become a recommendation to filter > the extended communities by default. For purposes of the adoption poll, > consider this a conditional

Re: [GROW] Call for agenda items for GROW @ IETF 119

2024-03-07 Thread Job Snijders
On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 10:42:26AM -0500, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 08:34:58PM +0100, Job Snijders wrote: > > Dear GROW working group, > > > > The IETF 119 meeting in Brisbane, "Down Under" is approaching! > > > > Through this em

Re: [GROW] Working Group Last Call (WGLC) for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-peer-up (start 22/Jan/2024 end 6/Feb/2024)

2024-03-05 Thread Job Snijders
Dear all, The WGLC has concluded. A few people spoke out in favor of publication, no objections were raised. I'll work on the shepherd write-up. Thanks! Kind regards, Job On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 08:20:36PM +0100, Job Snijders wrote: > Dear all, > > As requested during the IETF

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-as-path-prepending-09.txt

2024-02-07 Thread Job Snijders
On Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 09:11:12PM -0600, David Farmer wrote: > If you keep it as updating RFC 7454, I believe you need to say it does > so in the abstract. Also, somewhere in the document, probably in the > introduction, you need to explain how it updates RFC 7454, that is how > this document

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-as-path-prepending-09.txt

2024-02-06 Thread Job Snijders
> make sense. > > Thanks, > mike > > -Original Message- > From: Job Snijders > Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2024 11:13 AM > To: Michael McBride > Cc: grow@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-as-path-prepending-09.txt > > Dear Mich

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-as-path-prepending-09.txt

2024-02-06 Thread Job Snijders
Dear Michael, Before we proceed, can you clarify how exactly draft-ietf-grow-as-path-prepending updates RFC 7454 and RFC 8195? In relationship to 8195, the only sentence I see is "AS Path Prepending is discussed in Use of BGP Large Communities [RFC8195]." - which is true (8915 contains an

[GROW] Call for agenda items for GROW @ IETF 119

2024-01-22 Thread Job Snijders
Dear GROW working group, The IETF 119 meeting in Brisbane, "Down Under" is approaching! Through this email we'd like to ask the GROW working group for agenda items. We should have a 90 minute slot this time around. Please email your presentation proposal to grow-cha...@ietf.org if you'd like to

[GROW] Working Group Last Call (WGLC) for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-peer-up (start 22/Jan/2024 end 6/Feb/2024)

2024-01-22 Thread Job Snijders
Dear all, As requested during the IETF 118 GROW session in Prague, Czechia, a "Working Group Last Call" is now issued for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-peer-up. This phase will last about 2 weeks. We'd love to hear from you, especially from BMP implementers! Please review the document, consider whether it

Re: [GROW] Peering API: Internet Draft submission

2024-01-19 Thread Job Snijders
On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 09:08:00PM +, Jenny Ramseyer wrote: > I would like to request a talking slot at the upcoming GROW meeting at > IETF 119 to discuss the draft. Please let me know if you think this > draft might meet your charter, and if it would be possible to discuss > at the next GROW

Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for draft-pels-grow-yang-bgp-communities (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)

2024-01-08 Thread Job Snijders
On Mon, Jan 08, 2024 at 10:44:26AM +0100, Job Snijders wrote: > Dear Working Group, > > Thank you all for your comments and feedback. The > draft-fiebig-grow-bgpopsecupd document has been adopted by the GROW > working group. Apologies, the above sentence should of course read

Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)

2024-01-08 Thread Job Snijders
regards, Job GROW co-chair On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 04:48:32PM +0100, Job Snijders wrote: > Dear GROW, > > The author of draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats asked whether the > GROW working group could consider adoption of their internet-draft. > > This message is a re

Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for draft-pels-grow-yang-bgp-communities (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)

2024-01-08 Thread Job Snijders
+0100, Job Snijders wrote: > Dear GROW, > > The author of draft-pels-grow-yang-bgp-communities asked whether the > GROW working group could consider adoption of their internet-draft. > > This message is a request to the group for feedback on whether this > internet-dr

Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for draft-fiebig-grow-bgpopsecupd (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)

2024-01-08 Thread Job Snijders
Snijders wrote: > Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 04:42:05PM +0100, Job Snijders wrote: > Dear GROW, > > The author of draft-fiebig-grow-bgpopsecupd asked whether the > GROW working group could consider adoption of their internet-draft. > > This message is a request to the group fo

Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for draft-pels-grow-yang-bgp-communities (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)

2023-12-06 Thread Job Snijders
Dear Tom, Did you watch the presentation on this topic in the IETF 118 GROW session? https://youtu.be/vkU8qYzSt1c?si=zWKpMPfo0kW0DUgv=262 Kind regards, Job On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 05:05:53PM +, tom petch wrote: > From: GROW on behalf of Job Snijders > > Sent: 06 December 2

[GROW] Working Group Call for draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)

2023-12-06 Thread Job Snijders
Dear GROW, The author of draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats asked whether the GROW working group could consider adoption of their internet-draft. This message is a request to the group for feedback on whether this internet-draft should be adopted. Title: Definition For New BMP Statistics Type

[GROW] Working Group Call for draft-fiebig-grow-bgpopsecupd (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)

2023-12-06 Thread Job Snijders
Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 04:42:05PM +0100, Job Snijders wrote: Dear GROW, The author of draft-fiebig-grow-bgpopsecupd asked whether the GROW working group could consider adoption of their internet-draft. This message is a request to the group for feedback on whether this internet-draft should

[GROW] Working Group Call for draft-pels-grow-yang-bgp-communities (start 06/Dec/2023 end 06/Jan/2024)

2023-12-06 Thread Job Snijders
Dear GROW, The author of draft-pels-grow-yang-bgp-communities asked whether the GROW working group could consider adoption of their internet-draft. This message is a request to the group for feedback on whether this internet-draft should be adopted. Title: YANG Module for BGP Communities

Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for Adoption draft-lucente-grow-bmp-rel (start 25/Oct/2023 end 08/Nov/2023)

2023-12-06 Thread Job Snijders
Dear all, This document has been adopted by the Working Group. Authors, please submit the document as 'draft-ietf-grow-bmp-rel-00' Kind regards, Job On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 12:57:08AM +0200, Job Snijders wrote: > Dear GROW, > > The authors of draft-lucente-grow-bmp-rel asked whe

Re: [GROW] Working Group Adoption Call: draft-wilhelm-grow-anycast-community (Ends 22/Nov/2022)

2023-11-26 Thread Job Snijders
Dear Maximilian, On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 02:45:58PM +0100, Maximilian Wilhelm wrote: > Anno domini 2023 Maximilian Wilhelm scripsit: > > [...] > > Some time has past and I don't see any new comments, neither here nor > > to us authors. > > > > Hence I'd like to ask the chairs to start the WG

[GROW] todo items from GROW @ IETF 118

2023-11-06 Thread Job Snijders
Dear all, The todo items I noted for myself: IETF 119: request 90 minutes Call for working group adoption: draft-pels-grow-yang-bgp-communities Call for working group adoption: draft-fiebig-grow-bgpopsecupd Call for working group adoption: draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats Last Call:

[GROW] draft agenda for GROW @ IETF 118 posted

2023-10-30 Thread Job Snijders
Dear all, The draft agenda for the GROW @ IETF 118 session has been uploaded here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-118-grow/ Let me know if we forgot someone or something, there still is some room. Kind regards, Job & Chris GROW co-chairs

[GROW] Call for agenda items for GROW @ IETF 118

2023-10-24 Thread Job Snijders
Dear GROW working group, The IETF 118 meeting is approaching! Through this email we'd like to ask the GROW working group for agenda items. Please email your presentation proposal to grow-cha...@ietf.org if you'd like to present an update on an existing Internet-Draft, or would like to bring new

Re: [GROW] TODO Items from F2F meeting

2023-10-24 Thread Job Snijders
Dear all, I believe all todo items have been cleared now: On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 04:43:01PM -0700, Christopher Morrow wrote: > * note about BMP and TLV and how lovely the new world will be I received word that potential concerns with bumping the version number have been addressed and that

[GROW] Working Group Call for Adoption draft-lucente-grow-bmp-rel (start 25/Oct/2023 end 08/Nov/2023)

2023-10-24 Thread Job Snijders
Dear GROW, The authors of draft-lucente-grow-bmp-rel asked whether GROW working group could consider adoption of the internet-draft. This message is a request to the group for feedback on whether this internet-draft should be adopted. Title: Logging of routing events in BGP Monitoring Protocol

[GROW] Working Group Call for Adoption draft-francois-grow-bmp-loc-peer (start 24/Oct/2023 end 07/Nov/2023)

2023-10-24 Thread Job Snijders
Dear GROW, The authors of draft-francois-grow-bmp-loc-peer asked whether GROW working group could consider adoption of the internet-draft. This message is a request to the group for feedback on whether this internet-draft should be adopted. Title: BMP Loc-RIB: Peer address Abstract: BMP

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-bmp-registries-change-04.txt

2023-09-22 Thread Job Snijders
On Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 03:46:50PM +, John Scudder wrote: > This version removes "BMP Peer Down Reason Codes” from the list of > affected registries, per Tom Petch’s IETF LC review. Thanks, good catch. Kind regards, Job ___ GROW mailing list

[GROW] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-registries-change-03

2023-09-11 Thread Job Snijders via Datatracker
Job Snijders has requested publication of draft-ietf-grow-bmp-registries-change-03 as Proposed Standard on behalf of the GROW working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-grow-bmp-registries-change

Re: [GROW] working group last call draft-ietf-grow-bmp-registries-change (ends 2019.06.12)

2023-09-11 Thread Job Snijders
; With overwhelmingly positive response, let's move this forward! > > I'll see about sending the IESG bits forward in the next day. > > > > Thanks! > > -chris > > > > On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 1:25 PM Job Snijders wrote: > >> > >> Dear G

Re: [GROW] working group last call draft-ietf-grow-bmp-registries-change (ends 2019.06.12)

2023-08-16 Thread Job Snijders
gt; christopher.mor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > With overwhelmingly positive response, let's move this forward! > > I'll see about sending the IESG bits forward in the next day. > > > > Thanks! > > -chris > > > > On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 1:25 PM Job Snijders wr

[GROW] Call for agenda items for GROW @ IETF 117

2023-06-24 Thread Job Snijders
Dear GROW working group, The IETF 117 meeting is approaching! Through this email we'd like to ask the GROW working group for agenda items. Please email your proposal to grow-cha...@ietf.org if you'd like to present an update on an existing Internet-Draft, or would like to bring new material to

Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for Adoption draft-cppy-grow-bmp-path-marking-tlv (start 30/Mar/2023 end 21/Apr/2023)

2023-06-07 Thread Job Snijders
Dear GROW, It seems there is good support to adopt draft-cppy-grow-bmp-path-marking-tlv as working group document. Thank you all for your responses. Authors, please upload the file as draft-ietf-grow-bmp-path-marking-tlv-00 Kind regards, Job On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 04:35:32AM +, Job

Re: [GROW] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6774 (7527)

2023-06-01 Thread Job Snijders
On Thu, Jun 01, 2023 at 01:43:42PM -0700, Chris Smiley wrote: > Greetings, > > FYI - this report has been deleted as junk. Thanks! Kind regards, Job co-chair GROW ___ GROW mailing list GROW@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/grow

Re: [GROW] Working Group Adoption Call: draft-wilhelm-grow-anycast-community (Ends 22/Nov/2022)

2023-05-29 Thread Job Snijders
On Sat, May 27, 2023 at 08:43:59PM +0200, Maximilian Wilhelm wrote: > Anno domini 2022 Job Snijders scripsit: > > > Thank you for your feedback! There was good support to adopt this > > internet-draft and continue work on it as a working group document. > > > > Aut

[GROW] Minutes GROW @ IETF 116 published

2023-03-30 Thread Job Snijders
Hi folks! The minutes have been published: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-116-grow-202303300400/ Many thanks to Peter Schoenmaker and Zhen Tan for observing the session and taking minutes! Kind regards, Job ___ GROW mailing list

[GROW] Working Group Call for Adoption draft-cppy-grow-bmp-path-marking-tlv (start 30/Mar/2023 end 21/Apr/2023)

2023-03-29 Thread Job Snijders
Dear GROW, The authors of draft-cppy-grow-bmp-path-marking-tlv asked whether GROW working group could consider adoption of the internet-draft. This message is a request to the group for feedback on whether this internet-draft should be adopted. Title: BMP Extension for Path Status TLV Abstract:

Re: [GROW] Call for agenda items for GROW @ IETF 116

2023-03-13 Thread Job Snijders
Dear all, Just a reminder that we need to work on finalizing the agenda! Please send grow-cha...@ietf.org requests for a slot during the IETF 116 GROW meeting! Kind regards, Job On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 02:36:47PM +0100, Job Snijders wrote: > Dear GROW working group, > > The IETF 11

[GROW] Call for agenda items for GROW @ IETF 116

2023-02-23 Thread Job Snijders
Dear GROW working group, The IETF 116 meeting is approaching! We'd like to ask the GROW working group for agenda items. Please email your proposal to grow-cha...@ietf.org if you'd like to present an update on an existing Internet-Draft, or would like to bring new material to the working group

Re: [GROW] Invite comments on updated AS_SET deprecation draft

2023-01-29 Thread Job Snijders
Dear Jeff, On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 08:28:27AM -0500, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 11:26:02AM +0100, Job Snijders wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 05:17:08PM +, Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) wrote: > > > Please let us also know if you would have int

Re: [GROW] Invite comments on updated AS_SET deprecation draft

2023-01-29 Thread Job Snijders
Dear Sriram, others, (speaking as working group participant) On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 05:17:08PM +, Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) wrote: > Please let us also know if you would have interest in providing an > implementation. Perhaps it is worthwhile adding a suggestion to the document for BGP

Re: [GROW] Working Group Adoption Call: draft-wilhelm-grow-anycast-community (Ends 22/Nov/2022)

2022-11-26 Thread Job Snijders
Dear Maximilian, On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 11:17:06PM +0100, Maximilian Wilhelm wrote: > thanks for the support! > > I re-uploaded the draft with the updated name. > > Chairs, I heard there is an option to ask for an early allocation for > a community? I have to admit that I'm not deeply familar

Re: [GROW] Working Group Adoption Call: draft-wilhelm-grow-anycast-community (Ends 22/Nov/2022)

2022-11-26 Thread Job Snijders
ards, Job GROW co-chair On Sat, Nov 05, 2022 at 03:48:16PM +0100, Job Snijders wrote: > Dear GROW, > > The authors of draft-wilhelm-grow-anycast-community asked whether this > working group could consider adoption of the internet-draft. > > This message is a request to the g

Re: [GROW] Working Group Adoption Call: draft-cptb-grow-bmp-yang (Ends 15/Sep/2022)

2022-11-11 Thread Job Snijders
n Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 04:20:18PM +0200, Job Snijders wrote: > Hi GROW, > > At the IETF 114 GROW session Paolo asked whether this working group > could consider adoption for draft-cptb-grow-bmp-yang. > > This message is a request to the group for feedback on whether this > i

[GROW] Working Group Adoption Call: draft-wilhelm-grow-anycast-community (Ends 22/Nov/2022)

2022-11-05 Thread Job Snijders
Dear GROW, The authors of draft-wilhelm-grow-anycast-community asked whether this working group could consider adoption of the internet-draft. This message is a request to the group for feedback on whether this internet-draft should be adopted. Title: A well-known BGP community to denote

[GROW] Working Group Adoption Call: draft-cptb-grow-bmp-yang (Ends 15/Sep/2022)

2022-08-25 Thread Job Snijders
Hi GROW, At the IETF 114 GROW session Paolo asked whether this working group could consider adoption for draft-cptb-grow-bmp-yang. This message is a request to the group for feedback on whether this internet-draft should be adopted. Title: BMP YANG Module Abstract: This document proposes a

Re: [GROW] a quick reminder about large communities and "well known"

2022-07-28 Thread Job Snijders
On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 05:59:36PM -0400, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > [In the context of the anycast community at-mic discussion during IETF-114] > > Grow WG, > > As part of the RFC process for Large BGP Communities, there was strong > objection to having any large communities set aside for special

Re: [GROW] Preparations for Today's Meeting

2022-07-28 Thread Job Snijders
On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 03:16:24PM -0400, Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 9:02 AM Christopher Morrow > christopher.mor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Howdy folks! > > If you have a presentation slot, ideally know this already... > > Ideally you ALSO have prepared slides? > > > > If

Re: [GROW] [Sidrops] Any credence to AS_SET in the *middle* between AS_SEQUENCEs?

2022-07-26 Thread Job Snijders
Dear Alexander, others, On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 04:14:36PM +0300, Alexander Azimov wrote: > The current version of the draft follows the wording from > draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as-set-confed-set > >BGP speakers conforming to this document (i.e., conformant BGP >speakers) MUST NOT locally

Re: [GROW] Any credence to AS_SET in the *middle* between AS_SEQUENCEs?

2022-07-21 Thread Job Snijders
Dear Sriram, On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 at 14:08, Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) < kotikalapudi.sri...@nist.gov> wrote: > Treating an UPDATE with an AS_SET as always 'Invalid' may be reasonable > and simplifies the algorithm description except the diagnostic value of the > 'Unverifiable' flavor is lost.

Re: [GROW] Any credence to AS_SET in the *middle* between AS_SEQUENCEs?

2022-07-21 Thread Job Snijders
On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 at 10:37, Nick Hilliard wrote: > Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) wrote on 19/07/2022 22:24: > > Question: Operationally, is an AS_SET ever used in the*middle* > > between AS_SEQUENCEs? Or, should one simply give zero credence to > > it? > > tl;dr: epsilon levels of credence.

Re: [GROW] Working Group Adoption Call: draft-lucente-grow-bmp-tlv-ebit (Ends 02/May/2022)

2022-07-05 Thread Job Snijders
:19PM +0200, Job Snijders wrote: > Hi GROW, > > At the IETF 113 GROW session Paolo asked whether this working group > could consider adoption for draft-lucente-grow-bmp-tlv-ebit. > > This message is a request to the group for feedback on whether this > internet-draft should b

Re: [GROW] Proposing a well-known BGP community for Anycast

2022-07-05 Thread Job Snijders
Dear Max, On Tue, Jul 05, 2022 at 12:40:48PM +0200, Maximilian Wilhelm wrote: > after some discussion at RIPE84 we took the time to formalize a draft > to define a well-known BGP community to indicate a given prefix is > carrying Anycast traffic. The intent is to allow ISPs to do well > informed

[GROW] Call for agenda items for GROW @ IETF 114

2022-06-22 Thread Job Snijders
Dear GROW working group, The IETF 114 meeting is approaching! We'd like to ask the GROW working group for agenda items. Please email your proposal to grow-cha...@ietf.org if you'd like to present an update on an existing Internet-Draft, or would like to bring new material to the working group

[GROW] Working Group Adoption Call: draft-lucente-grow-bmp-tlv-ebit (Ends 02/May/2022)

2022-04-08 Thread Job Snijders
Hi GROW, At the IETF 113 GROW session Paolo asked whether this working group could consider adoption for draft-lucente-grow-bmp-tlv-ebit. This message is a request to the group for feedback on whether this internet-draft should be adopted. Title: Support for Enterprise-specific TLVs in the

[GROW] IETF 113 GROW meeting agenda (draft)

2022-03-10 Thread Job Snijders
Hi all, Here is the current draft GROW @ IETF 113 agenda: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/113/materials/agenda-113-grow-00.txt Please let the chairs know if you'd also like to contribute agenda items. Kind regards, Job & Chris ___

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv-07.txt

2022-03-08 Thread Job Snijders
On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 12:43:37AM +0100, Paolo Lucente wrote: > I have processed all outstanding feedback for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv, once > again big thanks to Jeff Haas and Ben Maddison for their valuable new input, > plus indeed all reviewers. > > May i ask <= 5 mins of time to summarize the

Re: [GROW] New draft: Yanog module for BMP - draft-cptb-grow-bmp-yang

2022-03-07 Thread Job Snijders
On Mon, Mar 07, 2022 at 11:06:55AM +0100, Camilo Cardona wrote: > We just submitted a new draft proposing a yang module for configuring > and managing BMP on a device. > > It would be nice to get some comments, observations, etc. > > Grow Chairs, will it be possible to get a 5 minute slot in the

Re: [GROW] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ymbk-grow-bgp-collector-communities-02.txt

2022-02-18 Thread Job Snijders
Hi Randy, Emile, A few small notes that might be of interest should you wish to progress this draft: * 32-bit ASNs don't fit in 16-bit fields. Consider using a set of Extended Communities? * The Local Administrator values {64994,64995,64996} might already be in use and carry local

Re: [GROW] RFC 9069 on Support for Local RIB in the BGP Monitoring Protocol (BMP)

2022-02-16 Thread Job Snijders
Hi GROW, Cause for celebration for the WG, and Tim, Serpil, Manish, & Paolo! :-) Thank you for your work (and patience, this doc took about 5 years!) Kind regards, Job On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 10:25:03PM -0800, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote: > A new Request for Comments is now available in

Re: [GROW] [Idr] Input on AS Prepend for draft-idr-rpd-15.txt - Ends 02/24/22

2022-02-10 Thread Job Snijders
Hi all, (no hats) On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 09:53:44PM +, Keyur Patel wrote: > IDR is requesting input on the use of AS prepend in BGP policy. This > begins a 2 week call for requested input on the beneficial use of AS > Prepend. draft-ietf-grow-as-path-prepending-05.txt indicates there is > a

Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (ends December 1st 2021)

2021-12-17 Thread Job Snijders
it to IESG territory. Kind regards, Job & Chris Thu, Dec 02, 2021 at 04:10:43PM +0100, Job Snijders wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Please take 15 minutes out of your day to review this *really short!* > internet-draft. The authors were kind enough to make it only 3 pages of

Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (ends December 1st 2021)

2021-12-02 Thread Job Snijders
peer_down messages as > well. > > Best wishes > Thomas > > -Original Message- > From: GROW On Behalf Of Job Snijders > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 5:16 PM > To: Paolo Lucente > Cc: grow@ietf.org grow@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-i

Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (ends December 1st 2021)

2021-11-16 Thread Job Snijders
Dear all, This starts the formal WGLC period which will run from November 16th until December 1st 2021. Please review https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv-06 and provide comments or feedback on the grow@ietf.org mailing list! Kind regards, Job On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at

[GROW] IETF112 - GROW starts in a bit

2021-11-09 Thread Job Snijders
Hi all, As we've replaced frantically searching where the heck the room is in a giant building with ... 'where the heck is the URL?!' :-) For your convenience: Meetecho: https://wws.conf.meetecho.com/conference/?group=grow==1 Agenda:

[GROW] GROW @ IETF 112 - slides

2021-11-04 Thread Job Snijders
Hi everyone, We're having a light meeting schedule this time around! "Tuesday, 16:00-18:00 (UTC) - Session III" https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/112/materials/agenda-112-grow-00 Please send slides no later than Monday, so we're ready to go on Tuesday! :-) If anyone has a last minute item

[GROW] Call for agenda items for GROW @ IETF 112

2021-09-23 Thread Job Snijders
Dear GROW working group, The virtual IETF 112 meeting is approaching! You can register here https://registration.ietf.org/112/ We'd like to ask the working group for agenda items! Please email your proposal to grow-cha...@ietf.org Kind regards, Job & Chris GROW Chairs

Re: [GROW] [Sidrops] NIST RPKI Monitor Version 2.0

2021-04-29 Thread Job Snijders
Dear Sriram, Doug, others, On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 01:06:58PM +, Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) wrote: > We (NIST) have released a new version of the NIST RPKI Monitor (v2.0): > > https://www.nist.gov/services-resources/software/nist-rpki-deployment-monitor > > We are open to adding more

Re: [GROW] Alvaro Retana's Discuss on draft-ietf-grow-bmp-local-rib-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2021-04-28 Thread Job Snijders
t 07:34:22PM +0200, Job Snijders wrote: > Dear Alvaro, draft authors, > > Perhaps it would be good to have a voice discussion? This might expedite > figuring out a solution to how we describe things. > > From what I understand the BMP Loc-RIB draft to propose is that all BMP >

Re: [GROW] BGP Looking Glass Capability

2021-04-27 Thread Job Snijders
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 01:16:55AM +0200, Rayhaan Jaufeerally (IETF) wrote: > > Consistent API that serves RIB data > > Initially I tried to avoid defining the exact API of the looking glass by > pointing to https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8522, but unfortunately it does > not strictly define the

Re: [GROW] Alvaro Retana's Discuss on draft-ietf-grow-bmp-local-rib-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2021-04-21 Thread Job Snijders
Dear Alvaro, draft authors, Perhaps it would be good to have a voice discussion? This might expedite figuring out a solution to how we describe things. >From what I understand the BMP Loc-RIB draft to propose is that all BMP messages of the Loc-RIB instance type are 'synthesized', as the

Re: [GROW] [Idr] Choice of Large vs. Extended Community for Route Leaks Solution

2021-04-01 Thread Job Snijders
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 06:09:42PM -0400, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > > There is already a separate draft in IDR that has passed WGLC, and it uses > > a new transitive BGP Path Attribute 'Only to Customer (OTC)': > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-open-policy-15 > > We view that as a

Re: [GROW] An alternative approach to draft-ietf-grow-route-leak-detection-mitigation

2021-03-10 Thread Job Snijders
Dear Jakob, On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 02:10:24AM +, Jakob Heitz (jheitz) wrote: > Job, your suggestion kicks a different goal than > draft-ietf-grow-route-leak-detection-mitigation does. Yes, I'm aware I am suggesting a different approach to solve the problem of route leaks. >

Re: [GROW] is TCP the right layer for BMP session resumption?

2021-03-10 Thread Job Snijders
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 03:08:34AM +, Jakob Heitz (jheitz) wrote: > >From the BGP speaker (client) implementation point of view, > > I would do it like this: > The client keeps a ring buffer of data it sent to the server. > The bottom of the buffer is at a certain sequence number. > As

Re: [GROW] is TCP the right layer for BMP session resumption?

2021-03-09 Thread Job Snijders
On Tue, Mar 09, 2021 at 08:44:18PM +, Jakob Heitz (jheitz) wrote: > BMP is a one-way protocol. The BMP server sends nothing. In the proposal at hand, the BMP server would send a client-specific TCP_FAST_OPEN cookie (on top of TCP ACKs), and possibly eventually a TCP RST, which is slightly

Re: [GROW] route leak solution and IANA large community register

2021-03-09 Thread Job Snijders
registry. > Before that point, let me chat with the IDR co-chairs and ADs to what other > options you have. > > Cheers, Sue > > -Original Message- > From: Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) [mailto:kotikalapudi.sri...@nist.gov] > Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2021 6:26

Re: [GROW] An alternative approach to draft-ietf-grow-route-leak-detection-mitigation

2021-03-09 Thread Job Snijders
Dear GROW, (Removed sidrops@ from CC) *Wearing a Working Group participant hat* I reviewed draft-ietf-grow-route-leak-detection-mitigation-04 and it appears to me there is a shortcut possible in the mitigation algorithm. This shortcut in turn negates the need to specify any ASN in the "DO

[GROW] is TCP the right layer for BMP session resumption?

2021-03-09 Thread Job Snijders
Dear group, Yesterday we had the pleasure to hear a report from Thomas Graf on new BMP work. The https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-tppy-bmp-seamless-session-00 document outlines a concept to allow BMP clients to resume 'an existing' session with the BMP server, reducing the need to

[GROW] GROW @ IETF 110 - starts 1 hour later! (14:00 - 15:00 CET)

2021-03-08 Thread Job Snijders
Dear all, To resolve a scheduling conflict, and because this meeting's agenda allows it... the GROW meeting will start 1 hour later! https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2021=3=8=13=0=0=16=248=64=224 I'll be in the room to make people aware we're starting a bit later.

Re: [GROW] Call for agenda items for GROW @ IETF 110

2021-02-17 Thread Job Snijders
Dear all, I'd like to draw attention to our fairly empty agenda... please help fill it! :-) Kind regards, GROW Chairs Job & Chris On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 3:35 PM Job Snijders wrote: > Dear GROW working group, > > The virtual IETF 110 meeting is approaching! You can register

[GROW] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-local-rib-09

2021-02-11 Thread Job Snijders via Datatracker
Job Snijders has requested publication of draft-ietf-grow-bmp-local-rib-09 as Proposed Standard on behalf of the GROW working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-grow-bmp-local-rib/ ___ GROW

[GROW] Call for agenda items for GROW @ IETF 110

2021-01-27 Thread Job Snijders
Dear GROW working group, The virtual IETF 110 meeting is approaching! You can register here https://registration.ietf.org/110/ We'd like to ask the working group for agenda items! Please email your proposal to grow-cha...@ietf.org Kind regards, Job & Chris GROW Chairs

Re: [GROW] review of draft-ietf-grow-bmp-local-rib-07 (preparing for sheperd write-up)

2020-11-13 Thread Job Snijders
Dear Tim, Hi Tim, On Wed, Nov 04, 2020 at 05:49:48PM +, Tim Evens (tievens) wrote: > [tievens] Agree. The draft itself has local in the name. Does it make > sense to change the draft name or keep it as is? The filename is not relevant, I'd leave it as-is. Ultimately the document will have

[GROW] review of draft-ietf-grow-bmp-local-rib-07 (preparing for sheperd write-up)

2020-11-02 Thread Job Snijders
Dear group, authors As part of the sheperd write-up I am reviewing the draft-ietf-grow-bmp-local-rib-07 Internet-Draft. Overall the document looks good to me. Please consider these notes as input from an individual working group participant. The suggestions are editorial in nature, my focus on

Re: [GROW] Proposed updates to GROW charter

2020-10-23 Thread Job Snijders
Dear group, Taking Alvaro's and other people's feedback into account, here is the fourth version of the charter. OK? good to go? Warren Kumari? :-) Kind regards, Job GROW co-chair Charter for Working Group The purpose of GROW is to consider the operational problems associated with the

[GROW] IPR call for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-local-rib

2020-08-16 Thread Job Snijders
Dear draft-ietf-grow-bmp-local-rib authors, Are you aware of any IPR for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-local-rib? IPR resources: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/about/ RFC 8179 "Intellectual Property Rights in IETF Technology" https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8179 Kind regards, Job Chair GROW

Re: [GROW] [WG ADOPTION]: draft-mcbride-grow-as-path-prepend-01 - ENDS 08/12/2020 (Aug 12)

2020-07-29 Thread Job Snijders
I support adoption too (no hats) On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 05:19:07PM +, Christopher Morrow wrote: > + the real slim-shady. > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 5:17 PM Christopher Morrow > wrote: > > > > Howdy WG Folks! > > There's been significant chatter on-list about: > >

Re: [GROW] Proposed updates to GROW charter

2020-07-29 Thread Job Snijders
Dear all, Below is a third revision of the charter proposal, we attempted to incorporate all the feedback received so far, specifically Alvaro's. Please let us know your feedback! Kind regards, Job & Chris -- Charter for Working Group

Re: [GROW] New RPSL via attributes in the autnum Class

2020-04-30 Thread Job Snijders
Dear all, I'd like to abandon draft-snijders-rpsl-via and mark it dead. I don't think we can make the mechanism as proposed work in a meaningful way for common internet deployments. Describing "routing policy" (the *import* / *export* attributes in Autnum objects) within the constrains of the

Re: [GROW] Playing with origin validation

2020-04-12 Thread Job Snijders
On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 08:39:58PM +0200, Robert Raszuk wrote: > Would anyone be able to explain the below phenomenon? > > RPKI Origin validation marks net 45.227.254.0/24 as INVALID as it expects > it to be originated by ASN: 395978 If you look at

Re: [GROW] GROW Meeting @ IETF 107 / YVR

2020-03-05 Thread Job Snijders
Does anyone have agenda items for this specific meeting? If things can wait a little bit we can request a virtual interim meeting to accomodate what should've been handled this IETF around. Kind regards, Job On Thu, Mar 05, 2020 at 04:34:56PM +, Chris Morrow wrote: > > Howdy folks! It's

Re: [GROW] Proposed updates to GROW charter

2019-11-21 Thread Job Snijders
Dear Alvaro, Thank you for your comments. On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 07:42:05PM -0800, Alvaro Retana wrote: > > Finally, where appropriate, the GROW documents the operational > > aspects of measurement, monitoring, policy, security, and VPN > > infrastructures, and safe default behavior of

[GROW] Information model for BGP Communities (Was: Proposed updates to GROW charter)

2019-11-21 Thread Job Snijders
Forking this thread. On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 03:44:26AM +, thomas.g...@swisscom.com wrote: > Very good input regarding „Devise a BGP Community Description System > to IESG. > > I think a YANG informational BGP community modell might be the right > thing to do. I would volunteer to support

Re: [GROW] Proposed updates to GROW charter

2019-11-21 Thread Job Snijders
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:58 AM Jeffrey Haas wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 01:44:03AM +0000, Job Snijders wrote: > > Goals > > * Provide stewardship and maintenance for the Multi-Threaded Routing > > Toolkit (MRT) > > I think you may wish to narrow the sc

Re: [GROW] Proposed updates to GROW charter

2019-11-21 Thread Job Snijders
Dear all, Below is a revision of the charter proposal. Kind regards, Job Charter for GROW Working Group === The Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) is fundamental to the operation of the Internet. In recent years, occurrences of BGP related operational issues have

Re: [GROW] Proposed updates to GROW charter

2019-11-21 Thread Job Snijders
Dear all, On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 07:21:13PM +, Job Snijders wrote: > Milestones > == > > Jan 2020 - "Support for Local RIB in BGP Monitoring Protocol (BMP)" to IESG > Feb 2020 - "BMP Peer Up Message Namespace" to IESG > Apr 2020 - "Revis

Re: [GROW] IPR Disclosure Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-grow-bmp-adj-rib-out

2019-11-04 Thread Job Snijders
Thanks for the heads-up! On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 14:18 IETF Secretariat wrote: > Dear Tim Evens, Serpil Bayraktar, Paolo Lucente, Kevin Mi, Shunwan Zhuang: > > > An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "Support > for > Adj-RIB-Out in BGP Monitoring Protocol (BMP)" >

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