RE: Helmets
On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Gil Hillman wrote: Is there such a thing as a Snell approved helmet that isn't DOT approved? I don't think so; I don't think the helmet can be sold as a motorcycle helmet if it isn't DOT approved. So this isn't an either-or, it's a one-or-both, and "both" surely offers a bit of extra protection. Gil, you're right, at least as far as the U.S. is concerned. Any helmet sold in the U.S. (for many years now) MUST have a DOT approval, or the seller is breaking federal law. Snell is optional. Any state with a mandatory helmet law uses the DOT standard as the measure of "acceptability" so the lack of that little decal is what gets you a ticket. Sadly, there are firms that sell DOT stickers, and there are riders who stick them on replica Nazi helmets, "puddin' bowl" replicas, and..heck, I suspect Viking hats (right Sven?). Those across the big pond(s)--can you buy a helmet outside the U.S. without a DOT sticker on it? Phil
Re: Helmet Preference
On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Dave Morrow wrote: I'm sure rider preference has a lot to do with what works best for you, but I must say after being somewhat skeptical the Arai is certainly worth a serious look. New issue of Rider has a review of major brand full-face helmets, something like 22-23 helmets. The new issue of MCN has a review of major full-face helmets, but actually goes out on a limb and picks a winner, which is the Arai. Rider suggests that there was not a "bad" helmet in the bunch, and if you buy and use any full-face helmet you'll do yourself a favor. That said.I'm partial to Shoei helmets, liked Bell many years ago as a kid but haven't liked theirs for many years now. My one major get-off, several years ago, involved a Shoei X-8 Air. It worked. Three major hits to the helmet, no damage to what was inside as proven by CAT scans (anyone else on the list able to PROVE that their head is actually OK??). I replaced it with an X-9 Air, the later model of the same helmet. Last week I got a new Arai, at an unbeatable pricelong story. But, I've not yet had a chance to go riding with it, although it is comfortable in a "try-it-on" situation and I suspect I'll like it. New standards from Snell are not much changed from the 95 standards. I prefer helmets to carry Snell approvals along with the DOT sticker. The tests are not quite the same, and in a nutshell, Snell standards are more likely to help in a major get-off, but do run a risk of minor injury in a less-serious get-off. If you ever ride fast, consider the Snell endorsement as worthwhile. 'Nuff said I 'spect. Phil P.S. "If you ever ride fast"--what the heck am I talking about, this is the GTS list after all!!!
Re: Fluff : The Mother of All speed fines
And I did the rest of the math.that's $31.80 per mph. :) On Thu, 2 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know we are all curious, so I ran the conversions. Fine - $6,007 US Speed - 188.9 mph
sorry Jay (and list)
Dang. One of these days I'll learn to read all my messages before I start replying. I basically just clogged the list to make the same point Jay already had. Apologies. On Tue, 31 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It varies depending upon the speed. And particularly the rate of deceleration. The more extreme the braking, the less the back end does. At the racetrack Snip
Awright already with the gasoline!!! :)
Folks, The gasoline thread has been interesting. Best thing for me is that someone actually read the manual--I had thought "plus" grade was recommended by Yamaha. Good thing for me to get corrected on, and since I'm at altitude, I can get by with even less octane. Save the dime to twenty cents per gallon for sure. But...if you really want answers to all of this, check out: www.faqs.org/faqs/autos/gasoline-faq/part1/ It has links to parts 2, 3, and 4, by the way. Yes, it's that long, and it'll tell you everything you want to know about gasoline. I've got it bookmarked. You should too. Written for car-guys, but we can still read it from our own 'puters. Hope that helps. Have a good weekend! Phil
Re: New Topic!
Shawn, Let's see, where to begin, oh yes, I know..OUCH DAMMIT There. Now, for the armor. I don't use it. I have two sets of leathers, neither with armor, both with extra padding and thicker leather in key spots. Armor is likely useful though. What armor does is spread a sharp or pointed impact over a larger area. This in turn can help to avoid a broken bone, etc., but in a truly serious impact you'll still break things. Most track folks use armor and swear by it, but people I know often avoid it on the street. On a similar topic--back protectors. Does anyone on this list use one for regular street riding? Armor and back protectors are both standard fair on most tracks. I've not checked the club-level web pages to see if the rules mandate them, but it may be required. A good idea none-the-less. Oh.one last thing. Speaking of breaking bones, did ya get a plate number on the @$$ho!e who started this mess??? Want the GTS Touring Society to show up in numbers and use our no-longer-functional stock chains (we've all converted, remember?) to beat the tar out of him??? Huh? Huh :) Phil On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Shawn Pearsall wrote: In my few years of being on here...we've danced around the topic, but never officially talked about it..so here it goes: Body armor...anyone wear it (besides inside the suits)? If so what type, where? Recently I had the displeasure of meeting a young man at a stop sign. I was about to do a California roll... snip
Old Topic!!! (was RE: New Topic!)
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Hawkins, Kevin wrote: You got a Kanatuna 1100? You should have hired a lawyer!! :^) Uh.Kevin, the list has been down this road before, but this one line response by you came up on my computer as 190 lines of stuff. I pity the digesters. Please.cut your messages before you reply. Phil
Re: Biketoberfest
Nope. Lack of activity means no lack of job-related stuff. Hardly the time to head out to Biketoberfest. :) Phil On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Kevin Harrington wrote: HEY! I assuume from the lack of activity, that all of you are coming to Biketoberfest! See you there! FL Kev
videos (was Re: one bike?)
OK, so where do we get this video? Is it available from Duke Video? On videos, Duke is great, the annual IoM TT summaries are hard to beat, and lots of other interesting things. I recommend them. Another video, available from Whitehorse Press, is "The Lazy Man's Zen" and I give it 5 stars also. You will find someone to hate and someone to totally respect somewhere in the video--it's just that we don't all agree as to which is which. Phil On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, nicholas.threader wrote: One man's dream. Its my birthday today and my wife bought me the video ,"One man's dream", plus a T shirt . I've just finished watching the video, and all i can say is "if you love bikes" Buy it .
Re: one bike?
Make that WAS, not Is, Louis. Britten died of cancer a few years ago. Phil On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Louis Tweed wrote: If I recall correctly Britten is one of the motorcycle guru's for alternative suspensions, both front and rear. Louis Tweed grant gall wrote: But Nick, it has forks! Grant Gall "nicholas.threader" wrote:
Re: one bike?
The Britten company is still at it, but the loss of the principal was certainly a sad day. Phil On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Louis Tweed wrote: Was it really that long ago I saw the Britten in a magazine that had the sliding front suspension system? Don't remember exactly how it worked, but it looked different. Louis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Make that WAS, not Is, Louis. Britten died of cancer a few years ago. Phil On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Louis Tweed wrote: If I recall correctly Britten is one of the motorcycle guru's for alternative suspensions, both front and rear. Louis Tweed grant gall wrote: But Nick, it has forks! Grant Gall "nicholas.threader" wrote:
Re: FLUFF: Thumper Pages
OK, the Borile is interesting. And, if you like thumpers, go to the general Thumper Page--at www.ionet.net/THUMPER.HTML And if you still like singles, go to www.bsa-regal.co.uk/home.html which has the BSA single, and links to Norton and MZ. And if you just gotta have more than a single, twins can be coolat www.sport-twin.com Yes. I like these things. And doubt I'll see them stateside, and thanks Kelly for finding the SZR660 in California a while back, but I don't want the parts problems of a grey market bike. Sigh. And on the topic of twins--put a new rear on the Ducati Thursday, so took it as a challenge to see how far up the sidewalls I could srub it in for 350 miles of mostly twisties today. Sunny, windless, warm.nice day folks. Phil On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Robert Wilson wrote: I talked to the factory yesterday, about US$9,100 FOB Italy http://www.ionet.net/~jhanna/Borile.html Like Phil B. I like thumpers, here are two really sweet machines. Robert Wilson
Re: Fluffy metrics
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = I'll go along with that, my wife is always talking INCHES. = I'am jest glad she doesn't talk millimetres. Why not? You get _more_ of them! It's like the old joke. "Want that pizza cut in six pieces or eight?" "Better make it six, I could never eat all eight."
one bike?
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Steve Baglien wrote: I love my GTS, my old FZR, and my dirt bikes, and the Harley - but if I could only have one bike, it'd be my Goldwing. OK, OK, a brand new FLUFF thread. What about it folks, what if you could only have one bike? I know, for many on this list--it's the GTS, because some do only have one bike. For me.I'd put more emphasis on sport than comfort. I like to tour, but let's face it, I may get out once or twice a year. But I can get out on weekends a lot, and I can always commute. So I'd want an all-around bike that could be fun in the twisties, but still capable of the occasional tour. And while I'd prefer factory hard luggage, it would most likely still turn out to be the VFR 750. Not 800, I'll pass on the integrated brakes. And with Honda luggage it would be even more tempting. Others? Phil
Re: FLUFF!!! - email footer
Thanks Bob, not a problem. Butif you're in digest mode, please don't attach the entire digest to the end of your note (don't laugh, I've seen in on other lists). Phil On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Burton, Bob wrote: My work is now requiring a confidentiality footer be added to all emails due to governmental requirements.
Re: Goldbarge
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I currently have a Valkyrie Interstate as my touring bike. And others with Venture Royales, Wings, and big HDs. Am I the ONLY person on this list who has the GTS for his touring bike??? :) Phil
started again (was RE: Intermot)
On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Burton, Bob wrote: Joe you're going to get Phil started again... What? Moi?? Again You must be thinking of another Phil:) Lots of very good bikes never make it to the US and they don't have to "prove" themselves in Europe first, I hope the FJR does, but it won't happen this year. What comes to the US is what the manufacturer's think they can sell out. Actually, the U.S. has gotten way too far into the "Blockbuster" mentality when it comes to marketing. Things that make money, but not lots and lots and lots of money, get ignored. And those of us with quirky tastes (I do include myself here, BTW) lose out. Even the Honda web page doesn't have the ST listed as a model for 2001, Jay what's up with that???is the X Wing really coming??? Bob B. (hoping sport tourer's do come to the US) Huh?? I'm not a fan of the ST (Jay and I have already discussed this one), but I can't believe Honda would drop it. They afraid it's dipping into Goldbarge sales? Phil
Fluffy metrics
On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg, come on now. Do you really think the Americans will ever change to metric? Not ^#@) likely. No way!!! Inches are SO superior!! :) Sometimes I believe the only metric they know is what size of the carbs on their bikes are. And yes I know the GTS is injected. Oh I forgot, they understand tire sizes too. Yep. Carbs are an inch and a half. Tires are 17 inches. :) HD handlebars are an inch. My .02. Two cents??? You mean like decimal money??? Not 4 pounds three pence??? The Amurkin SA striking back, Phil
Re: Goldbarge???
On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's blasphemous, but... I just put a deposit on a 2001 GoldWing GL1800A. If you haven't seen one yet, don't laugh. I swore I'd never own a GoldWing, but the new bike is a whole new story: Butbut.Motorcycle Daily for Sept 21 has stuff on the controls. Now the gauges are OK (150 mph speedo though? which in metric isuh, well150 mph, what the heck) but the buttons?!? I mean this thing has buttons and knobs everywhere! How much fiddling with controls do ya wanna do while out riding a motorcycle??? :) OK, to each his own. But dang, that puppy is truly huge. Phil Why use a swiss army knife when you can have a whole knife set? Because the Swiss Army knife will fit in your tank bag??
Re: Yes DOROTHY, there IS a superchip for the GTS!
On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Charlie Dornsife wrote: The Sales rep got back to me today about the superchip, well sort of...he asked if the YAMAHA GTS 1000-a was a motorcycle or a car??? He needed to know that before he could send more information. Yes Dorothy indeedbetter just get out the Ruby Slippers and find your way home without that GTS. At least without a GTS superchip.
RE: Intermot in Munchen exhibited a new Yamaha sports tourer:
Pictures I've seen before make it pretty clear this is a shafty. Which of course adds pounds (kilos for those non-U.S.ers). On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, uranus wrote: Yes we noticed but no reason for those of us in the USA to look at it since only the FZ-1 (Fazer) is coming to the USA this year. Besides it has forks :) Bob B. - and a chain :-(
When will Yamaha learn (Was RE: Intermot)
On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Burton, Bob wrote: Yes we noticed but no reason for those of us in the USA to look at it since only the FZ-1 (Fazer) is coming to the USA this year. Besides it has forks :) Bob B. When will Yamaha ever figure out the basics of Marketing 101 and start to sell us what we want. The new sport tourer looks good, yes, and Bob's fork comments notwithstanding, I'd seriously entertain buying one if I could. More importantly. I went to Yamaha of Australia's page. Let's see, the bikes I'd seriously consider buying.. The SZR660, first and foremost. If Yamaha would import it I'd have a deposit at my favorite dealer tomorrow. The TRX850. I'd still consider it, but it would have to displace my Duc 900 CR for garage space. If Yamaha had brought this bike in before I bought the Duc.. The TDM850. Hmm. Interesting. No deposit yet, but not out of the question. The Diversion 900. Since we don't get the new FJ, this would be an alternative. Etc. Not all of us are waiting to buy cruisers, dirt bikes, or fully faired Supersports. Phil P.S. I've lately gotten a lot more serious about the MuZ Scorpion, which is the SZR660 motor brought in by a low budget firm since Yamaha can't afford to get the motor past EPA. Hmm again. P.P.S. I don't need the response that these bikes would sell in low numbers in the U.S. Hey, if MotoGuzzi can stay in this country at all, Yamaha can afford to support a few cult bikes. The SZR in particular would sell in enough numbers to justify it. Heck, the GTS would sell in enough numbers to justify it.
Re: Gas milage (was GTS to FZR stuff)
I get 45 in my "impressionistic" records, but when I went to Colorado, I got a pretty consistent 50, with that being mostly mountain passes. My mileage was consistently same as/slightly worse than my friend's new VFR 800, fuel injected. Phil On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Crisler, Jon wrote: I get 45 mpg during agressive commuting, with a target cruise speed of 85 mph. Slowing down to 70-75 gets about 50 mpg. No bags. Almost all interstate cruising.
RE: GTS to FZR stuff
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Burton, Bob wrote: What the chart does show is what we all know, the GTS has a very linear delivery across the bandwidth. Hmm, interesting..a torque curve like that is what one would try to get if you were desiging a, well, a sport tourer. :)
Re: GTS to FZR stuff
Ops, Charlie, I needed to put in a series of: :) :) :) :) :) etc. Guess I came across as the list HardAss instead of the list SmartAss. Yes, we can discuss modifications. But..I'm still the one who likes the characteristics of the GTS as is. A Deal's Gap is a road in the mountains of Tenessee, with lots of twisties and way too many squids. On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Charlie Dornsife wrote: Phil, Very well put, and I agree with you on all points but one. I didn't say I couldn't pass, I simply said that I would like some more power when passing at high altitude, for example; when passing several cars at one time (and yes I downshift and run it all the way up because its a dog below 5000 rpm's). As far as upgrades go and this list, isn't this -in part- what this list is for??? To share information and idea's? If there is no easy upgrade path then just say so, I was just ask'n. Geez~ And while I'm here, what is a "Deal's Gap?" Charlie D 94GTS1K-A - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 12:03 PM Subject: RE: GTS to FZR stuff On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Hawkins, Kevin wrote: I know that I felt significant losses in the low RPMs on Mt. Evans at 14,000 feet. Phil Benson, what about you? OK, OK, here I go again. First--Mt Evans. No need for more power at that altitude. The road has about a thousand feet of runoff, 'cept it's vertical. Nope, nosiree, not gonna get silly with the throttle, it was just fine thank you very much. As one who tours Colorado at every opportunity, I've gone to the 12,000 foot range a lot. I find that the GTS is not as quick, but unable to pass cars?? Sluggish to the point of being dangerous?? Get real. Two up and fully loaded, I can still pass anyone who needs passing. A downshift is not the end of the world, by the way. This is one of the perpetual GTS list topics. How to get more power from the GTS, usually focused on the use of FZR parts. Every time we get some new folks on the list it comes up. Every time it does, I have the same solution. Leave the thing the way Yamaha built it. It's not the fastest sport bike on the planet, but then again...it's not a sport bike. It's a sport tourer. A damn good sport tourer. If you want the quickest bike in the twisties, consider a 600cc sport bike. If ya gotta have the top end to go with it, get a 'Busa. By the way, you can get the same BHP from the GTS as the 'Busa. All ya gotta do is rev the GTS to 18,500 rpm. I know it's true, I did the math. On a serious note, I'll stake my claim again, same as every time this topic comes up. Accept the GTS as a sport tourer, and all the "problems" go away. Except parts availability. Phil
Re: Max Speed
OK, OK, so everyone has pointed out that Steve's GTS is a one-off Yamaha Special with that 6th gear.but no one answered the question he asked. The GTS will NOT go 160. Official tops I've seen are about 148 without bags, and--get this--ten to fifteen less with the bags on. So, the aerodynamics are the whole issue, which is the case on pretty much any vehicle going for top end. Talk to the folks at Bonneville For top speed, the ability to run to redline in TOP gear (go count 'em yerself) and drag coefficients rule. Adding high end HP does a lot. Weight is a minor player in this picture. For acceleration, weight is far more important. Phil P.S. Why did you ask the list this question?? Don't you have a straight stretch of road where you can answer this one for yourself? On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Steve Baglien wrote: Just curious about this I know my GTS runs about 80 MPH in 6th gear at 5000 RMP. Red line is 10,500 RMP. Does this mean the theoretical top speed of the bike is 160 MPH or does the aerodynamic pressure build and keep the bike from getting that fast?
beer in the Land of Enchantment (was tires, now fluff)
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, George Paramithas (Personal) wrote: PS Anybody in the Albuquerque area that want's to hook up for a beer and a steak? I'll be there this coming Monday and Tuesday nights. What about it Phillipos? Uh.New Mexico is a big state. In other words, ABQ is about 230 miles one way for me. Not likely gonna be there on a work night, sorry. Phillipos? In a note that was Viking bashing against Sven??? Gotta tell ya, I can't be Greekified. Before Ellis Island the last name was not Benson, but BjornsonI'm with Sven on this one. :) Philip the other Viking
RE: How to park a bike in a tree...
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Henry S. Winokur wrote: This link=dead Worked for me this afternoon..
Re: And the winner is....
On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Hawkins, Kevin wrote: Dave Biasotti!! I had three responses for the low CF exhaust and my number was 9 (Sonny Jurgensen). Dave had chosen 10, Richard had chosen 4 and CruzinTrooper choose 7. Sorry to Dave and Cruz. Why does this entire sale keep reminding me of The Gong Show?? :) Phil
Re: SEATBELTS
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, K9KIKO wrote: I have seen some horrible positions the human body takes upon impact with the ground, wall, or other motor vehicle. Like many on this list, I wear a seatbelt when driving that other mode of transportation, AKA "The Car". This morning, snip here My point Remind them to buckle up! Yesterday, I posted something to the list very relevant to this topic, but it appears to never have come through. May be just as well though. But yes, seatbelts are the "gear" that will keep you in the car, which, in a cage wreck, is a good place to stay. So.Mr Weaver, did ya censor me yesterday :) Phil
correction
Hm. Seems that my message did go through, just didn't come back to me this time. Sorry Mike--no censorship involved. :) On Tue, 5 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phil, I have seen pretty much the same thing. Only it was a Mom with three kids. Two kids flew out, one died and so did the Mom. I still don't remember, taking my helmet off and jacket off running to the scene. No one is ever completely safe. But some people try to do the right thing by protecting themselves, others well Grant Gall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, I was maintaining my silence, until I read Shawn's comment from Monday. I'll keep it short, and minimize the unpleasantries.but feel free to hit the delete key now. On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, SHAWN PEARSALL wrote: Have fun...ride safely guys and galsout of towners this weekend had a spill here...slid 170 feet into a guardraildidn't walk away...but are alive (specifically due to helmets and riding suits) passenger has broken leg, arm and collar bone (hit guard rail, shattering the side of her helmet) I went to Albuquerque this weekend, drove truck (not GTS), and had a good weekend, until the drive home. Just south of Socorro NM on Interstate 25 a Mazda MX3 in front of me lost control, went (eventually) off the right side, through a fence, and when it hit the rise to the frontage road, went into endo. The three occupants had seatbelts off, and became "motorcyclists without the benefit of helmets and protective gear". As an MSF instructor, I'm required to stay current on CPR and first aid, and try to keep track of trauma issues. Had to stop. The injuries were as expected for gearless riders. One woman was dead before I stopped the truck--massive head injuries. The guy had by all appearances a broken back. The other woman had severe road rash, was going into shock in a major way, and concerned me for internal injuries. The tatoo on her right calf is not going to be the same. Sorry. This kind of thing leaves you feeling pretty helpless. In this case seatbelts would have saved the three of them. In the case of a rider, folks, at 75 mph, the only thing that's gonna save your ass is what you're wearing. Chiming out, Phil
Re: Radar Dectector/Jammer
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the car magazines tested these a few years ago. The detector worked, but the jammer did nothing. Which could be a good thing. As I understand it, a jammer is a form of radio, and while we can receive radio without a license (radar detector) once we cross the line into jamming it we have lots of Federal agencies very unhappy with us. My favorite was a many years ago, sold as "plans" only for legal reasons, of a "hypothetical" device that would switch (at your option) between sending back radar signals at a set reading (say, 54 mph), or as some percentage of what is really happening (54%, so at 100 would be 54 mph). Cool idea. Phil
Re: TYPO
Nopeit's Duc tape. All Ducatisti know that. Use it all the time. On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Dave Evans wrote: Yes, For all you SA's it should be DUCT TAPE !!! David
Re: non GTS - pictures of the FJ1300
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Brandon wrote: But they sure look like they could give the Hayabusa a run for the money! Not likely. The total frontal area looks too large for a serious top end challenge. But it does look like a potentially great sport tourer. Phil
Re: non GTS - pictures of the FJ1300
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it me or does it look like its shaft drive? Yep, the shaft is pretty clear in one of the photos. And maybe an adjustable windscreen? Could be. So what's the "niche" here? ST1100? Looks lighter, but that may be the target.. Phil
saw a GTS....
Anyone on this list go touring in New Mexico for the holiday? On my way to Albuquerque, I saw a GTS southbound on I-25 about 20 miles north of Socorro, Sunday afternoon (maybe 2-ish). Was a red 93 with Krausers. Anyone know who this was? Phil
Fluff (was Re: ABS HU Return)
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, SHAWN PEARSALL wrote: Mine was not requested back, so I now have a repaired bike and the original (REBUILDABLE) HU sitting in my garage (Jayright next to that DUC Red Suzuki SV 650 S Canadian VersionPhil...thanks but I'll pass on the RZ's...the 650 S is a DUC Killer!) Yep. A woman here bought one, we traded one day (Duc 900 CR v. SV650) and I'll admit it. The Suzuki is impressive, easy to ride fast in the twisties, light, nimble, has enough power to keep me happy. Wanna buy a Duc? Phil
gear (not for the archives--fluff)
Folks, I was maintaining my silence, until I read Shawn's comment from Monday. I'll keep it short, and minimize the unpleasantries.but feel free to hit the delete key now. On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, SHAWN PEARSALL wrote: Have fun...ride safely guys and galsout of towners this weekend had a spill here...slid 170 feet into a guardraildidn't walk away...but are alive (specifically due to helmets and riding suits) passenger has broken leg, arm and collar bone (hit guard rail, shattering the side of her helmet) I went to Albuquerque this weekend, drove truck (not GTS), and had a good weekend, until the drive home. Just south of Socorro NM on Interstate 25 a Mazda MX3 in front of me lost control, went (eventually) off the right side, through a fence, and when it hit the rise to the frontage road, went into endo. The three occupants had seatbelts off, and became "motorcyclists without the benefit of helmets and protective gear". As an MSF instructor, I'm required to stay current on CPR and first aid, and try to keep track of trauma issues. Had to stop. The injuries were as expected for gearless riders. One woman was dead before I stopped the truck--massive head injuries. The guy had by all appearances a broken back. The other woman had severe road rash, was going into shock in a major way, and concerned me for internal injuries. The tatoo on her right calf is not going to be the same. Sorry. This kind of thing leaves you feeling pretty helpless. In this case seatbelts would have saved the three of them. In the case of a rider, folks, at 75 mph, the only thing that's gonna save your ass is what you're wearing. Chiming out, Phil
More new Yamahas
OK, the pictures of the new FJ were coolbut Motorcycle Daily has the new Fazer 1000 for Sept 1. Check it out. Phil
Re: Test rode....
On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, paramithas wrote: ...Jeff's brand spanking new 1999 Blackbird last weekend. All I can say is WHAT A MACHINE I rode an XX right after they were introduced, a few years back. Yes, it's a very nice bike, and I'd personally consider buying one at some point. Makes the GTS feel like a truck in comparison and the power is nothing short of phenomenal. The Blackbird is not a light motorcycle, but feels lighter than it is, and does handle well. The power is as you say. The bike is easy to ride in a sedate way, but kicks up well when asked to. As an alternative to the GTS?? Well, it certainly lacks the uniqueness factor, it isn't a cutting edge bike and likely never will be viewed as such. In the top end wars, it barely edged the long-standing ZX, only to be thoroughly bested by the 'Busa.not one for the history books. No hard luggage, and before you say it, I'm not a fan of the GIVI option. The XX and the VFR both seem to lack luggage to protect sales for the ST, right Jay?? :) I'd still consider owning one, and would be happy to tour on it. Phil What an experience, God help me in my desires. It's 6:00am and we are off for Hilton Head and Savanna for the 3 day weekend, happy Labor Day to all. P.S. Enjoy Savanna, it's a nice town. And happy Labor Day to all from New Mexico also. For those overseas.it's one of those U.S. holidays that's really an excuse to go to the lake (ocean for Gearge) and get drunk, in honor of.hey, what's this all about?? :)
censorship FLUFF
On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Michael Weaver wrote: I just quietly delete postings that offend me. It is easier to censor without public notice. :-) Ohand all along I just thought my 'puter was failing to send these messages correctly, and that's why they never get to the list. :)
winter gear
OK, my vote for winter gear goes like this. Gerbing jacket, not vest. Keeps torso warm, which allows the blood to still get pumped to feet and hands, and keeps them warm without electric socks or gloves. BMW boots, very water tight, very comfortable for walking, and yep, BMW-pricey. I also have BMW winter gloves. Not great, very warm but not good for feeling the controls, too bulky. I use summer gloves with silk liners (get 'em at a ski shop) for warmth unless it gets really cold, which is not that common in New Mexico. Sorry Mike, I just use a toggle switch which is within easy reach, and switch it back and forth as I feel the need. I know, I know, the controllers are greatetc.heard it all before, guess I just go with the lo-tech solution. Works for me. My main point? Get the Gerbing gear, you'll love it. Phil
Re: FLUFF GTS owners card.
Yep, RED it should be..send Henry a blue magic marker and he can change his if he'd like to!! :) Phil On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now Henry, you KNOW the blue colour you recommend is going to start a huge thread! ;^) My vote is RED!
Yamaha liter sport/tourer
OK, today's Motorcycle Daily says that a 1000cc, half faired sport-tourer from Yamaha (called the Fazer 1000, BTW) is, like its 600cc sibling, gonna be for Europe only. Sigh.
FLUFFY reply to Re: Communicators bike to car
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anybody used a bike to car communicator system that was any good. Yes. On my ride to Colorado last week, I was run off the road by an idiot in a Cadillac. (Really). From my point on the shoulder, which I shared with two riding buddies who were also run off the road with me, we all simultaneously used The Special Wave (tm). Less than four fingers. Phil
Re: Retro Bonneville
Thanks Andy. I've known of the rumors of this bike, but hadn't been to mortorcyledaily for a few days and hadn't seen this one. Phil On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, Andy Perry wrote: http://www.motorcycledaily.com/16aug00triumphbonneville.html
Re: lower fairings
It's ALWAYS hot here. Well, in the summer anyway. With liquid cooling, I remove neither. The bike just doesn't seem to run hot. On a long trip, I do remove the little cover over the oil fill though, since I figure I'll be using that one. Phil On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do some of you do if you plan on a trip in very hot temperatures. 1. Remove the lower fairing halves only. 2. Remove the two side lower fairings only. 3. Both or none? Ken Swartz
It's a GTS world record!!
YHa, and I claim it!! Just got back from a MUCH-NEEDED vacation and long (OK, Roger, not so long) ride. Covered 2025 miles of Colorado and New Mexico. But, the record.. I hereby claim the world's GTS altitude record. Rode the Mount Evans highway, went to 14,256 feet, which for those listers in Europe is...uh, well, damn high. Anyone wanting to beat this one best be in Asia or South America, unless you can fit some knobbies on your GTS. Highest paved road in North America. OK, if anyone can scan photos I'll post them for the list to peruse. And with that, I throw down the gauntletted moto-glove.just try to top this one. :) Phil P.S. I'm higher than you are, I'm higher than you are.. P.P.S. EFI works pretty well up there. P.P.P.S. The limited steering lock does NOT work well up there. Those switchbacks are as tight as a GTS turning circle. Tighter if you want to stay in your own lane.
Re: radiator overheating
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never caught the fans running. Are they loud enough to here over stop and go traffic? I know I can test them to see if the fans work but how is a simple way of getting the bike hot enough to have the fans come on without damage? I'd suggest riding it in an MSF Experienced Rider Course in New Mexico heat during mid-summer. :) Seriously, though, yes you can hear the fan if it comes on while you're sitting at idle. My GTS does NOT tend to get that hot though. In contrast, the FZR 1000 I used to own would get hot much more easily, presumably a difference in the tuning of the two motors. And yes, when I rode the FZR for an MSF ERC for NMMSP (gawd, lookit all the acronyms!!) it really did tend to run hot. Enough so that it concerned me at the time. Phil
The best thing about loaner bikes is......
..that when you give 'em back, you realize what a great ride the GTS really is. The BMW oilhead is OK as bikes go, and very nice handling in the city, but it's not the bike the GTS is. Phil
flat tires (was Re: Resolution of ABS HU claim)
On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Andy Perry wrote: I just replaced my back tire because I had two punctures that occurred the same day on a two hour ride. What are the chances of that happening? They both could have happened at the same time, I guess. I plugged the first hole the tire kept going flat.. then I found the second. I mentioned that last weekend I picked up a screw in the back tire, and left my bike in the shop for the replacement. When I picked it up today, the guy who worked on it said that the screw was not the real problem, the real problem was a mesquite thorn that was also in the tire from the same ride. It can happen. Phil
Re: Yamaha's warranty VS Normal wear.
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000, Brandon wrote: Hey, why don't you try some Bardall. (I think that's how it's spelled.) I have used it in oil burning cars before and it does work. (Although I think it its probably just gummy stuff that 'clogs' the loose area's. I dunno. I just couldn't afford to do anything else at the time!) :^) Given that the same oil goes through the gearbox and clutch, I'd be very cautious about additives in the oil. Phil
Hi/low bars (was Re: GTS handlebars needed)
On Mon, 7 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody have a set of handlebars laying around? I have the Heli-bars, but the angle they use hurts my wrists after riding for a while. Fred raises an interesting point. Most riders seem to like slightly higher bars than most "sporty" bikes come with, hence a great market for Heli-bars and GenMar and any others. I've personally never been convinced these represent an improvement, and like the more aggressive bars. I'm comfortable with the GTS stockers. Last weekend, I had a bit of difficulty riding the GTS. In San Lorenzo New Mexico, I got a screw stuck in my back tire. (Yep, hold the SAs, I've been screwed.) My new tire is on order, I was just trying to get the tire worn down a bit more before the new one goes on. Soclosest place was the shop in Deming, where the tire is gonna be delivered, so I hoped the air would hold long enough to get me there. It did, I left the bike. To get home, the shop loaned me a slightly used BMW R850R, the "standard" BMW. And it has "conventional" handlebars. After an hour on the freeway both wrists were quite unpleasant. The bar set-up that is "optimal" for many folks is not at all workable for me. I'm tall (6'2" or so), and have long arms and legs, so the reach of low bars is not an issue for me in most cases. But I find the Duc 900 CR or the GTS with stock bars to be far more comfortable than the BMW. I'll pass on modifications to my GTS in this regard. OK, so Fred agrees with me to some degree. Anyone else LIKE the stock GTS arrangement? Phil
Re: dreamy dreamland (was: Fluffing RE: tires again)
On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Roberto Alonso wrote: snip here absolutely NEEDING (different from wanting or liking) the best-gripping tire IS going too fast. Don't mean to spoil the party, but it happens I got to learn that the very, very hard way. Yep. Gotta admit I don't push as hard as I used to, especially on public roads. Geewent riding this weekend, and last time before that was about 2 or 3 agothe Saturday a friend low-sided his Blackbird to the tune of $3,000 damage...riding faster than I wanted to go on the Duc. Saturday, went riding with a small group, including Mary on her SV650 Soozook. She claims to not be able to keep up very well, but in the tight twisty stuff I sure as heck didn't lose her on the GTS. On the other hand, the day I rode her 650 and she rode the Duc 900I had a bit of a wait at the end. The GTS is NOT a sport bike. Keep repeating that fact folks. It's a fabulous sport tourer. But NOT a sport bike. On a different angle, it's funny how being surrounded by peers praising our machines can take us to outrageous claims. I read something about outbraking an... was it an R1? Yep. On this one the GTS really does shine. When it came out in 1993, one of the road tests pointed out that the high-speed "oh-shits" (100 to 0 as I recall) the GTS stopped quicker than anything they could find, two wheel or four, ever published in any roadtesting magazine. Wish I could remember which test made that claim, but that big ventilated, center-mounted disc up front will really scrub off the speed. And another test did three immediately-successive 140-0 stops and couldn't get ANY measurable fade. Okthe GTS is a sport tourer with tremendous brakes. Phil
issue of terminology fluff (Was Re: GTS weight and comments)
On Sun, 6 Aug 2000, Steven Puig wrote: I was travelling on a bumpy highway (most are bumpy around here), riding behind a friend on an R1 at speeds well above the recommended maximum. ~~~ Uhwe call 'em speed limits here in the U.S. :)
Re: GTS weight and comments
Alan, BTW, I forwarded your post to your insurance agent.:) Phil
thanks for the tire tips
Thanks to all who gave insights on the tire choice. I decided to go with the MEZ4, in a 170 size (no real need to pose at MY age). Ordered it today, will have it on the bike in a week. Phil
tires again
OK, I know, on this list the "correct" thing to ask is what tire is stickiest. But I've come to the conclusion that my riding on the GTS is not really oriented toward hard-edged sport riding--this is my touring bike. And, I've grown a bit weary of changing tires too often, especially on the back. My current tire is a dual-compound Battlax, in an attempt to cover more distance without replacements. Anyone on the list have a recommendation for a tire that will give good mileage on the back of a GTS, and still be "reasonably sticky"? In other words, mileage is the first priority this time around. Thanks. Phil
RE: passenger pegs
On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Loss, Joe wrote: Buy her some boots without heels... Gotta agree, nothing quite as good as focused-purpose moto-boots. I've never had the problem with two-up riding. In fact SO says the GTS is a great ride from the pillion, especially with the Corbin backrest in place, which is my one good Corbin comment. Tell ya what..take her two-up on an FZR1000 for a day, she'll never complain again about the GTS. :)
Re: Big bore kit
On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, fred schneider wrote: A dutch mechanic/tuner told me to mount the carburators, camshafts and exhoustsystem of an FZR 1000 should give 145 HP I think this mechanic is a bit optimistic. I had an FZR 1000 for a while, and it was something like 125-127 hp. Changing those components on a GTS would give you an FZR motor essentially, and any other minor differences won't give you 145 hp. Installing a mill from a Hyabusa will though. :) Phil
Re: Big bore kit- more GTS power
One word...nitrous :) On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Christopher Caputo wrote: two words .Turbo charged.
Looks better all the time (was RE: Rally sites)
Thanks Garrett. One thing I'd note is that there are several places in the same general region--the Rocky Mountains--that made the list. So Colorado is a good starting point. On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Welch, Garrett R wrote: Banff/ jasper 2 Colorado 3 Black hills 1 Yellow stone 2 All of these seem like "similar" votes to me. Now does anyone know of a place in the area that would have a motorcycle oriented event or race or some great tourist attraction that could not be missed? (Like the great malls in Edmonton and Minneapolis =) As for The Mall of America, CO doesn't have it. An event that was ended two years ago was the AHRMA vintage races at Steamboat, and some of us did meet up there the last time it was done. AMA runs a late summer race in Colorado Springs, but not the best track in my opinion. Denver is a big traffic jam, as is the whole front range. We need to stay in the center of the state. Lots of high passes. Lots of great scenery. Lots of good food. Not a bad choice. I HAVE NEVER BEEN to Colorado so I could give you any first hand information. Well.I have! :) Actually, was a Colorado native, something that there were few of back in the 1950s. I like to go back. Grew up in Gunnison, then spent a lot of my time in Ft Collins and related areas. There are people on the list in Colorado--right Joe Loss of Boulder?? :) Several folks could come up with ideas. HeckI finish teaching in a short bit, and have some time, and have already planned to tour Colorado on the GTS in a few weeks myself. My plans include a lot of time around Leadville, Gunnison, and related areas. I'd be happy to help to put together some ideas for 2001. Heck, I'll give a preliminary report in a month or a little less. I'd vote for either a very early summer, or better, a late summer time frame. Keep in mindtourists abound from Memorial Day to Labor Day, but for those of us with younger kids in public schools, well, that's when we can go. Looking at a 2001 calendar I'd suggest maybe the week of August 12 or thereabouts. For those who like it--Creede Colorado has a great repertory theater in the summer. There are always festivals of every imaginable sort. We certainly can find things to do for the spouses and significant others who want to attend. Enough rambling by me for now. Phil P.S. A place I like is the Nordic Inn, in Twin Lakes. At the base of Independence Pass--yeeha! Was a former . uh .brothel. Check it out at: www.twinlakesnordicinn.com
Re: GTS Rally in 2001
On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Douglass McIntosh wrote: Or, let's just hit the pavement and Ride to Glacier National Park in Montana or maybe Banff National Park in Alberta.~~~ Oh yesthis would be a great one. Further for me, but heck, an excuse to visit Colorado, Wyoming (haven't been to the Medicine Bow Range for a lot of years, and Yellowstone/Tetons), and Montana, and.yep, this would be a good one. We could also convince our Canadian listers that we're not HOPELESSLY Americentric. :) Phil
LD GTSers (was RE: North American GTS Rally in 2001)
On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Michael Weaver wrote: The farther the better. Hold it in Alaska. Give me a reason for a 10,000 mile trip. Uh, sounds like it's time for me to introduce you to Roger Van Santen. You guys could ride down to Tierra del Fuego for lunch some day. Phil
Re: Big bike trip to commence next week
Sounds like a good ride, Kelly--and Albuquerque is in my state, but since I'm teaching and you're there on a weekday, the 230-mile jaunt for a supper together is not gonna happen. Maybe another time Phil On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Kelly Cash wrote: Hi all- I'll be heading out this Wednesday, and will be going through most of your areas. Will be in Washington, D.C. a couple of days (and could hook up with folks there around dinner time, Aug 8), Ottawa a couple of days, and Oklahoma City a day and a half. 08/02 Ride to L.A. - 500 mi 08/03 Ride to Albuquerque - 891 mi 08/04 Ride to Oklahoma City - 428 mi 08/06 Ride to St. Louis - 508 mi 08/07 Ride to D.C. - 830 mi 08/10 Ride to Yarmouth, ME - 570 mi 08/11 Ride to Ottawa- 401 mi 08/13 Ride to Toronto - 241 mi 08/14 Ride to Drysden - 1018 mi \ This will be a 08/15 Ride to Brooks- 1048 mi - New personal record for 08/16 Ride to Salem, OR - 1006 mi / endurance riding 08/17 Ride to home - 630 mi Already planning to see Maxine and Robert Wilson in Canada, and will be going through Calgary (with only enough time for lunch). Send me an email if I'll pass by you! -K == Kelly Cash Direct: 408-845-5762 Sr. Systems Engineer Main: 408-845-5700 Solid Data Systems FAX: 408-727-5496 2945 Oakmead Village Court [EMAIL PROTECTED] Santa Clara, CA 95051 www.soliddata.com ==
Re: Work was unbelievable today !!
On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Crisler, Jon wrote: My boss'es boss is now worth 10 billion dollars. Coolso now he can buy everyone on this list a new Yamaha of our choice. I'd like an OW02, aka the race-ready R7. :) Phil P.S. Tell your boss's boss to use part of the 10 billion to get a new system that'll take all of the MIME crap out of your e-mails!! :)
YOW!! (was Re: Bring it holme Hugh! (Fluff)
OK, still fluff, but geeez, the guy is just trying to earn his colors as an official GTS/SA, and we're just ruthless in our SA responses! OK, I vote that Hugh is now officially "in" and think Shawn needs to assign a number ASAP. Oh.and On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Thomas Czerniak wrote: Come on! Everybody knows that any motorcycle is a penis extension! And that makes the helmet.hh.I get it. Can't be too safe out there.
SA#s (was Re: Gallons to Gallons)
Grant, seems like Shawn was SA#1 before Kurt was even on the list--as I recall. Maybe we need an official registry, kinda like brides get at Nieman Markup or something like that. :) Phil On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hugh, I believe the S/A rating came from Kurt Fackler (?) when he was on the list, at least I think he was S/A#1. S/A#2 should probably handle that duty for you. Hello S/A#2.
RE: GTS vs K1200RS
On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Crisler, Jon wrote: If I remember correctly, in one of the major cycle mags they had a chart of performance figures of tested bikes. Until the Hayabusa came out, the GTS had the quickest top-gear roll-on performance (going from 50 to 80 mph in top gear) of any production bike ever tested, even the V-Max. See.there really is an advantage to a 5-speed over a 6-speed! :) Phil
Re: K1200 faster than a GTS?
I would agree with all of these comments, based also on back-to-back riding of the two bikes. The ABS is better WHEN IT WORKS, and the front disk on the GTS takes the K12 hands down. K12 is smoother, and feels as light as or lighter than the GTS (this was when I still had a 130 front though). Biggest advantage to the K bike? You can still buy a new one in the U.S. of A. Phil On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan; I have ridden a friends K1200rs back to back with my GTS on a long high speed trip. Its speed is deceptive because it doesnt rev as high as the GTS but in my opinion it is quicker than the GTS and handles much lighter than it looks. Like the GTS its handeling lightens up a lot once it gets moving. It has more torque and power than the GTS. If it wasn't so much money the K 1200 would be an option for me. The front end works very well but doesn't give the solid confidence inspiring feeling as much as the GTS but is very compliant on all surfaces and the ABS on the K bike is not a good as the GTS. Bob
Re: GTS vs K1200RS
A few years ago, I had the pleasure of riding the GTS and the K12 RS back to back in the twisties, two-up. It was right after the BMW intro of the bike. I posted a lengthy comparo to the list, if anyone wants to go searching the archives... K12 is a nice bike, by the way. Phil
oils again--trivia
All the discussion of Mobil 1, I just had to point out an embarassment to the folks in Milwaukee a few years ago. Of course, the "only" oil to be used in a Harley is their own branded oil. But someone from Motorcycle Consumer News snapped a photo of the VR1000 in the pits at one of the AMA races (I don't recall which one) and right there, plain as day, was a big container of.Mobil 1. Since then, I've noticed that branded containers of any sort are not left lying around in the HD pit area. Phil
RE: Aerostich
On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, Henry S. Winokur wrote: If any of you guys/gals are MSF certified instructors (Phil) AeroDesign will give you a discount on the purchase of your suit. Thanks Henry. I knew that and am thinking of the lime/yellow/putrid/but really in your face one-piece. Phil
GTS as the apogee of moto-development?
Found something interesting last Saturday. Stopped by the local dealer of various brands of motorcycles, and he'd just added--Royal Enfield. OK, so this is a bike not typically discussed on this list, but GTS content is forthcoming. Picked up a brochure, entitled "Isn't it time you started living in the past?", and took it home. Looked at it last night and.well, there's a timeline of sorts, showing development of the motorcycle since 1955, and let's see, 1975 looks like a Honda four, 1980 is a Turbo (Yow!! Remember those??), 1985 is a full-dress HD, 1995 is.hey, I recognize that bike! Oh.2000 is a 500cc RE Bullet. So, the GTS is now a sales gimmick for the Royal Enfield folks?? And given the reversion to the past, does this mean we're.the final culmination of moto-technology? Or is Royal Enfield gonna go broke Stay tuned. Oh, and you can download the brochure at www.enfieldmotorcycles.com Phil
more GPS
I've read the posts on GPS, and decided to check the Aerostitch catalog out of curiosity. They sell Garmin, and that's been well-reviewed here. However--units really vary in price. The GPS12XL is $207, the GPS StreetPilot Color Map is $697, and four other units are priced in between those two figures. Yow! Is there that much difference in what you get? Phil
Re: Bye Bye
Maxine, We've modified the listserve commands. The only way you can unsub is by adding the new (female) owner of your bike to this list. Hey, just how male dominated do we want this list to be after all? :) Good luck with your new.hey, whadid you buy to replace the GTS anyway? Phil P.S. Better not be a Ford Taurus. On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Maxine Featherstonhaugh wrote: Bike gone! (to another female, yeah!). Please keep in touch if you wish (w) [EMAIL PROTECTED], (h) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll miss you guys! If anyone is ever in Toronto. Max
Joey Dunlop again
I'm still saddened to hear of Joey Dunlop's accident in Estonia. I guess after all these years I'd gotten complacent, figured he was incapable of an accident like this. But, anyone looking for additional info may want to check out the article from an Irish newspaper that can be found at: www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4036307,00.html Yes, those are commas, not periods. Phil
Re: a rather grim request (maybe fluff to some)
Roberto, First, your message is in no way an abuse of the list. For all of our frequent silliness here, and some disputes on occasion, most of us would agree that we're all friends here, even if it's "friends afar" at times. Your message was appropriate, and heartfelt. Second, and more importantly, I'm sorry for what you've had to endure. Those of us who ride have all experienced the loss of a rider friend at some time. Having no brothers, and two sisters who don't ride, I've never lost anyone the way you just did. It has to be hard. About a month ago a friend was killed here, riding his Goldwing. I met him when I moved here in 1987, we did a lot of service work together, and he was the attorney who handled my divorce a few years back. At the time of his accident, his helmet was safely stored in the luggage of his bike. The accident was not his fault, a very convoluted affair caused primarily by a car that pulled out into traffic and set off a series of lane maneuvers that caught Ernie off guard. I've talked to two police officers familiar with the accident on a couple of occasions, both agreed that with the helmet on he'd have walked away from it, with only minor scrapes and bruises. As is, he's left us as a former District Judge, much respected by all who knew him, with three daughters and a wife left to grieve. Little can be said to ease your very real pain right now, Roberto. I for one understand your desire to continue to ride. The dangers now are the same as they were before the accident. I'll depart the soapbox, sorry to those not inclined to fluff. Phil
Re: Tank bag recommendations
I have the Yamaha bag and tank cover (have to have both to make it work) and don't like it that well. It velcros onto the cover. In heavy cross-winds, when you need to use both hands to control the bike, you must remove one hand from the bars to hold the bag in place so it won't take off in the wind. Not a good arrangement. I like magnetic bags. The one I have for some reason doesn't seem to stick very well on the GTS though. :) Phil On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Michael Weaver wrote: Hey all, I'm finally ready to buy a tank bag and wanted to poll the collective to see what were recommended bags for the GTS. Any opinions? (he asks innocently) I'm thinking about the RKA 16 liter bag, but I'm sure there are many others. Take care, Mike Michael Weaver (706)542-6468 [EMAIL PROTECTED] UCNS Network Specialist LAN Support Group University of Georgia, Athens Ga. )O( Public PGP key: http://www.arches.uga.edu/~weaver/pgp.html
Re: GPS opinions
Anyone responding to the original post--please do it on-list. I'm also interested in reading the responses. Phil
Re: Cycle Lift
Sounds like a mighty low price, depending on just what kind of lift it is. Any pictures or other descriptions, details? On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Andy Perry wrote: Sam's Club has a motorcycle/ATV lift for $99, if anyone's interested.
Good tickets (was Re: Laguna Seca Link)
Brandon, It's been a few years since I was able to go to Laguna Seca (BMW pre-GTS days actually), but the good seats were at that time the general admission tickets. I don't know about you, but the last thing I want is to be stuck in one particular seat in a grandstand that can see (sort of) the start and finish. Walk around. Stand up near the corkscrew. Cross the bridge over turn 9 and watch from over there. Go up on the grassy hillside that gives you a view of the drop after turn 9 until past the start/finish, and a lot of other things like turn 4, etc. When the spirit moves you, go to a different point on the track. Road America, Laguna Seca.I've not been there but it seems true of Road Atlanta also...are tracks to WANDER, not to sit in a grandstand. Remember, grandstands are for NASCAR weenies!! (Oo, time for the Nomex, here it comes!!) Phil P.S. Has the rule changed at Laguna Seca to limit one's walking around? On Sat, 17 Jun 2000, Brandon wrote: Great. All the good tickets are sold. Oh well, I probably couldn't have afforded them anyway. (OK, so I'm just cheap!) So, what are the general admission tickets like? (Like, where do get to sit? Can you see anything or just hear them go by? Shade? I haven't been in years and when I did go, my company was buying and we got all the good stuff. Seeing how I don't work there anymore, I might get to go, albeit 3rd class. :^P Brandon
numering systems
On Sat, 17 Jun 2000, Hawkins, Kevin L, SITS wrote: BTW - I believe I'M SA#1. OhI thought it was Pearsal the Greatbut maybe he's #2? Phil SA#yet undesignated
RE: Helmet
On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Henry wrote: I teach motorcycle safety, and I wear one all the time. I also wear a full coverage suit, boots and gloves...all the time. All the time? Geee, Henry, doesn't that make it hard to take a shower?? :) Phil SA#?
Re: GTS Website development...
More than one website out there...I forgot whether it was "com" or "org" on the end so tried both. Both gave different websites. Dang.pretty soon this bike is gonna have a number of websites in excess of the number of bikes ever sold. :) Phil On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Brandon wrote: Welch, Garrett R wrote: Http://www.gts1000.org I like the name!
Re: GTS Web Page
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks great. Now if I only knew how to do that stuff I could help. Oh yeah, the links with the scantily clad la.better forget that one. But they are cool anyway! NawSuperbike Magazine already has a corner on that market. Try: www.gci-net.com/user/s/superbike/index.html Oh.there's motorcycles too. Phil
Re: Fluff Scantily clad web sites (was RE: GTS Web Page)
Weird. You're right, enter the address and it comes up as missing. But I find it through a bookmark to the old address: http://freespace.virgin.net/k.frost/ And it tells me to go to the new address, but I just click on it, and it comes up on my 'puter, with the address I gave showing. Anyone better at software than me know why this is happening? Seems I should also get it directly. Curious minds want to know. Phil On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Welch, Garrett R wrote: I think they found what was on that web site. It says it is not there. -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 2:11 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject:Re: GTS Web Page NawSuperbike Magazine already has a corner on that market. Try: www.gci-net.com/user/s/superbike/index.html Oh.there's motorcycles too. Phil
looking for Kelly Cash
Sorry to the rest of the list--Kelly, I lost your current e-mail address, please reply to me off list. Thanks. Phil
IoM TT Fluff
Hey all, Speedvision has been covering the Isle of Man TT this week, next coverage is Friday I believe, catch it if you can, it's very well done. Gez..if Joey can do it at this age why can't I??? Phil
IoM 2001 (was Re: FW: GTS1000 motorbike map required)
On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, David Evans wrote: For those of you planning a trip to the IOM in 2001, I would love to join you if you have room for another GTS in your group. My reasons for this are simple 1) My family moved there in 1980. 2) Half off them still live there..including 4 of my 5 brothers. ( Be afraid.. they range from 18 to 4.5 yrs old) 3) I have taken the GTS round the circuit a couple of times, and it is just the best ride ever. There are about half a dozen in my group making somewhat serious plans. We will likely have three from New Mexico, and two or three from Oregon. As for "another" GTSI plan to rent, not ship mine over. Would love to have the GTS for a Euro-tour, but think that for shorter time frames renting is so much more reasonable. And.uh...a Blackbird sounds fun anyway. :) You'd be welcome at any rate. Let me know off list if you're interested in being included in the planning. Phil P.S. Any other GTSs going to be there? ~
VTR 250 (was Re: Florida)
These are neat little bikes, Allan. Last I priced one here, it could be had for a fair amount less than $1600 though. The bike has a fair amount of low-end pull for a 250, and is fun. I assume this is for a newbie rider or for a "campus-commuter" sort of use. As for the 1998 year--huh? I was pretty sure these bikes have been out of production for many years, and would guess it's a 1988 model. Check it. Phil P.S. Last one I looked at was something like $300-400. On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Allan Parker wrote: Bob, I am in Utah I have a student who would like to buy a 1998 VTR 250 for $1600.00, condition unknown. Does anyone have experience with these bikes.
Re: VTR 250 (was Re: Florida)
Sorry Jay--the Nighthawk is the CB250, not VTR, which is the Honda designation for a V-twin. And the CB250 is not a particularly good little motorcycle in my opinion. All my comments on the VTR do NOT apply to the Nighthawk. Phil On Fri, 2 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, it's called the Nighthawk 250 these days and is still in the line-up. In a message dated 6/2/00 7:25:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As for the 1998 year--huh? I was pretty sure these bikes have been out of production for many years, and would guess it's a 1988 model
FLUFF Re: bar snake
Uh.is a bar snake anything like a lounge lizard
Re: Power
Michel, Since the RE line says "power" I assume that's the figure you want. The GTS is rated at 100 bhp at the rear wheel, and it seems that the "official" number is pretty close to correct. As the GTS was being developed, there was a lot of talk that European governments would limit horsepower on bikes, with the limit at 100. Thus, a lot of bikes developed at that time were set to be 100 hp machines, such as the K1100 series bikes. When that "movement" fell away, the manufacturers started to build higher hp bikes again, like the K1200 series BMWs. The FZR was developed in an earlier time, and puts out more total hp, but also is tuned for a very different power band. More power at higher revs. As a sport touring machine, I've always said that the GTS is plenty powerful enough. Any more specs of interest? Phil On Tue, 23 May 2000, Michel Bijl wrote: Can anyone tell me the technical specifications of a 94 dutch GTS ? Much obliged Michel Bijl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Canadian GTS's for sale
Ooops.nothing to do with motor vehicle departments. OK, I see the problem, but I also see the solution. Buy the bike for $7,000, then write the check to be drawn in Canadian funds. Hey, there has to be somebody out there who won't figure it out until you have the bike safely back in Canada! Phil On Tue, 23 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No Phil, it's the exchange that kills the $7,000 +/- US purchase price. If I were to use 45% as the exchange (actual # unknown) which should be within a few percentage points, that would equal $10,150 CDN. I bought mine in 1995 for $9,500 CDN. They listed new here at $12,999.00. I believe you can get around the MPH vs KM issue. Grant Gall
Re: CA NV UT CO WY SD ND Trip next week
I'm possibly interested, it would just be for a part of the CO portion of the trip. What roads/towns are on the agenda? Let me know, we'll talk. Phil On Sat, 20 May 2000, Neelin_Wilson wrote: I'm picking up my GTS at Bob Taylor's in Palm Springs area next Saturday leaving for Vegas, Zion Bryce Canyon Parks, Colorado, Black Hills, and then home. I'm meeting up with two Canuk bikers in CO that are coming from Winnipeg. Anyone (in addition to those that emailed me before) that wants a dingle on the tele ( or ride) let me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone that is interested in hooking up with the Winnipeg riders for a ride they are leaving Winnipeg thursday night and riding to CO via ND, SD, WY. and welcome anyone. Robert Wilson
Re: Join me in Europe
Greg, what I think is that I'm envious, but wish you well. The time frame you've picked is one that I'm totally unfree at work, so even if I thought I could cough up the bucks I wouldn't be able to join you. Which tour did you sign up for?? And, it's MANDATORY that you post a detailed review/summary when you get back, since some of us have also long dreamed of doing one of their tours. Enjoy! Phil On Fri, 19 May 2000, Greg Christopher wrote: I'm finally taking the plunge and doing an Edelweiss motorcycle tour. I've waited more than 10 years to do it; the day will come August 6 thru 17th this year. Whadayall think? -Greg
Re: Fluff: Isle of Man TT Races
Plans are underway for 2001 here. Could be as many as half a dozen, coming from New Mexico and Oregon. Phil On Mon, 15 May 2000, Rob Chapman wrote: Anyone going there? I'll be there 3 - 7 June. Let me know if you are..Gary?and we'll meet up somewhere. You next year, Phil! Regards, Rob Chapman
Re: red light district on my dashboard
Michel, the light is an oil LEVEL light, not pressure. If you run at high speeds the oil tends to wind up in the motor's top end, and the sensor reads the level as low. Keeping the oil level at maximum will help. Most on the list have been concerned over this issue at least once. Phil On Thu, 11 May 2000, Michel Bijl wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_003F_01BFBB84.F600FBC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Readers, I know that this subject has been written about, but I didn't read it = too well, so I'm asking once again (sorry) I noticed that on high speed runs, the iol light of my '94 GTS comes on. = When driving at 180 km's, that is not a pretty sight, it was really = scary. After having stopped, I started the bike again and the light didn't go = on so I continued my way, swinging by the mechanics shop. He told me to add oil to the point that the level on the inspection = glass was at the top of the glass.=20 Is this the remedy or do I have another problem?? Can anyone help ?? Michel Bijl --=_NextPart_000_003F_01BFBB84.F600FBC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" HTMLHEAD META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3DGENERATOR STYLE/STYLE /HEAD BODY bgColor=3D#ff DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Readers,/FONT/DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2I know that this subject has been = written about,=20 but I didn't read it too well, so I'm asking once again = (sorry)/FONT/DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2I noticed that on high speed runs, the = iol light of=20 my '94 GTS comes on. When driving at 180 km's, that is not a pretty = sight, it=20 was really scary./FONT/DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2After having stopped, I started the = bike again and=20 the light didn't go on so I continued my way, swinging by the mechanics=20 shop./FONT/DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2He told me to addnbsp;oil to the point = that the=20 level on the inspection glass was at the top of the glass. /FONT/DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Is this the remedy or do I have another = problem??/FONT/DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Can anyone help ??/FONT/DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Michel Bijl/FONT/DIV/BODY/HTML --=_NextPart_000_003F_01BFBB84.F600FBC0--
Welcome Roberto (was Re: clutch brake levers)
On Wed, 10 May 2000, Roberto Alonso wrote: Firstly, allow me to say hi as a newcomer to this group. Welcome!! This list has always been dominated (in numbers at least) by us Americans, but it's always fun to have the rest of the world on board. I live in northern Spain and just bought a '93 GTS I'm extremely pleased with it, although I haven't had the chance to travel much yet (less than 3 months continuous rainstorms working overtime, sound familiar?). Way too familiar as regards the overtime stuffbut what's rain??? Here in the desert we've had no such thing since Marchreally. As for the brake lever not having the action in the right area of travel, we've been around on this one and most agree with you. One possible fix is, if I recall correctly, the lever from a ZX-11 Kawasaki (goes with another name in Europe, ZZR-1100 I believe??) which is adjustable. Lastly, the burning question: how do you guys in the States cope with a 100 hp, road hungry bike in an enforced 55-65 mph speed limit environment? I've been in the US several times and that I really hated. What is it? Yoga, utmost self restraint, get a crop duster pilot license to fly low? None of the above. As Henry pointed out--we all speed. And, the 55-65 limits are found mostly in the eastern U.S. at this point. Us western types usually have a posted limit of 75, which in New Mexico with a "plus 10" mentality, makes it 85. Of course, the GTS will tour all day at 100+ so this is still too slow. Visit New Mexico next time you're across the big pond, I'll show you some roads that are more than 55. And some that are way fun at well less than 55, in the twisties. :) PS: Please excuse my broken English, not my mother tongue Hey, your English is great. I teach university students who should learn to do so well. Honest. Phil Benson In sunny Las Cruces, New Mexico, near the Mexican border
