Re: [h-cost] Re: What periods for these fabrics?/17th c. linen outer garments

2005-12-03 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 03:00 03/12/2005, you wrote: We've had some arguments on the 18cWoman list about dyed linen. There is definitely evidence for dyed linen being used for gowns, breeches, jackets, etc. in the 18th c., and these would obviously have been dyed with natural dyes. As for whether linen was/wasn't

Re: [h-cost] Seam finishing on wool

2005-12-03 Thread Caroline
Thank you Heather - your figures 9 to 12 and 19 through to 21 are most useful. Your figure 14 is essentially what I have done with the linen tunic - but it would be too bulky on the wool I have. I may use number 10 - it looks like the running stich is designed to be seen from the face as Sunny

[h-cost] tissue paper

2005-12-03 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Hi, Rats- my dictionary stinks. It doesnt have the word tissue paper. Is this the same as Kitchen Rolls are made of? Because i got the advise to use this on hoop frames, when embroidering, cover the edge with this paper to protekt from dirt. Could i not just as well use a piece of calico, i

Re: [h-cost] tissue paper

2005-12-03 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 13:49 03/12/2005, you wrote: In a message dated 12/3/2005 8:02:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because i got the advise to use this on hoop frames, when embroidering, cover the edge with this paper to protekt from dirt. Could i not just as well use a piece of

Re: [h-cost] Re: What periods for these fabrics?/17th c. linen outer garments

2005-12-03 Thread Robin Netherton
On Sat, 3 Dec 2005, Suzi Clarke wrote: As for whether linen was/wasn't used for outer garments in Europe -- well, there is that linen 17th c. man's jacket that was found in the wall (chimney?) of a house. http://www.concealedgarments.org/information/links.html -- Mara Surely there is

Re: [h-cost] Re: What periods for these fabrics?/17th c. linen outergarments

2005-12-03 Thread E House
- Original Message - From: Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Honest, folks, I wouldn't have brought it up if someone hadn't asked me directly why I wasn't intending to use my stash of brightly dyed linen for medieval clothing -- a very specific question and a very specific answer. At

[h-cost] Re: christmas movies

2005-12-03 Thread Gail Scott Finke
My favorite is Miracle on 34th Street, although this year I am revisiting my childhood and watching all my favorite holiday specials with my children, who are really enjoying them. Last night was Santa Claus is Coming to Town. Earlier this week it was Rudolf. And coming up are Frosty, A Charlie

Re: [h-cost] Re: What periods for these fabrics?/17th c. linen outergarments

2005-12-03 Thread Robin Netherton
On Sat, 3 Dec 2005, E House wrote: At least for me, the reason I responded with the info I gave was that, to me, this question implies that you see dyed linen as useless for _any_ part of medieval clothing, rather than just for outer layer stuff. If you remove the fabric from your stash,

Re: [h-cost] What periods for these fabrics? (long)

2005-12-03 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Saturday 03 December 2005 1:56 am, Heather Rose Jones wrote: [snip] It also strikes me that those descriptions don't rule out the possibility that the linen was used as a lining for the caftan or hanging dress respectively. (I keep forgetting what the current standard English term is for

[h-cost] Medieval Gallery at the Museum of London re Photos

2005-12-03 Thread Suzi Clarke
To all who were interested. The Museum of London allows photography in certain galleries, but not, of course, in the Medieval Gallery, which is what I had asked about. I might have been able to sneak a couple, but as I am a regular, I don't want to cause waves, and get told I cannot see

[h-cost] name that garment

2005-12-03 Thread Land of Oz
http://slumberland.org/moodle/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=864 I'd like to know the name of the dark grey/white piece on the woman in the second photo. It covers her head and shoulders. I'd be interested in making something similar for modern wear, but I have no idea what it's called in order to

Re: [h-cost] Costume movies

2005-12-03 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Hi, I am looking forwards to see Casanova, because its ben two long that we had an 18th century film last. This photo shows a bad pair of stays. I can se that it is not propperly boned, and why is it they almost always dont bone the tabs probberly.

Re: [h-cost] Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 4, Issue 772

2005-12-03 Thread AnnBWass
In a message dated 12/3/2005 11:33:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and yes I had noticed they rewrote the lyrics - irritates me every time I hear the new version Went hunting last night and was reminded that James Taylor's 2001 version is almost the original

Re: [h-cost] Re: What periods for these fabrics?/17th c. linen outergarments

2005-12-03 Thread Sue Clemenger
Cranberry colored linen would go very well for a modern dress for you, given your coloring g, but if you just can't bring yourself to do it, feel free to send it to me! I would imagine that you'd have to coordinate several different tracks of thought--increased use of linen as outer garments,

Re: [h-cost] What periods for these fabrics? (long)

2005-12-03 Thread Sue Clemenger
The terms I hear/see most often used for that item of clothing around here are either apron gown or apron dress. Apron gown more commonly. Interesting, isn't it? how some words transfer into English (like naalbinding), and others do not --Maire, off to knit a shawl and listen to the radio,

Re: [h-cost] Medieval Gallery at the Museum of London re Photos

2005-12-03 Thread E House
I definitely wouldn't want you to sneak photos on my behalf! But thanks for letting us know about the neat stuff they have. -E House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

[h-cost] previous messages

2005-12-03 Thread Debloughcostumes
Just to say sorry, as I noticed when I got my last digest that I hadn't changed the titles - (sorry). See, like I said - head - screwed on! Debbie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] What periods for these fabrics? (long)

2005-12-03 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Saturday 03 December 2005 8:21 pm, Sue Clemenger wrote: The terms I hear/see most often used for that item of clothing around here are either apron gown or apron dress. Apron gown more commonly. I never heard apron gown before, though it makes as much sense as anything else. -- Cathy

RE: [h-cost] Re: What periods for these fabrics?/17th c. linen outer garments

2005-12-03 Thread otsisto
-Original Message- I don't think anyone has questioned the existence of linen outer garments from the 16th c. on. The only issue I'm aware of (and the one I summarized in response to the initial query) is whether colored linen was routinely used for the outer, visible layers of fashionable

RE: [h-cost] name that garment

2005-12-03 Thread sunshine_buchler
Hi! http://slumberland.org/moodle/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=864 I'd like to know the name of the dark grey/white piece on the woman in the second photo. It covers her head and shoulders. It's a hood, or medieval hood. Sometimes it's called a lirpipe (sp?) if there is a long tail hanging off

Survival of linen vs. wool, was RE: [h-cost] Re: What periods for these fabrics?/17th c. linen outer garments

2005-12-03 Thread Joan Jurancich
At 07:36 PM 12/3/2005, you wrote: [snip] I am glad that I asked why not. Though the issue wavers off the beaten path I have come to understand why you and some others do not use dyed linen for outerwear. My perspective is that linen degrades faster then wool and therefore is one of the reasons

RE: [h-cost] Re: What periods for these fabrics?/back to medieval

2005-12-03 Thread Robin Netherton
On Sat, 3 Dec 2005, otsisto wrote: I am glad that I asked why not. Though the issue wavers off the beaten path I have come to understand why you and some others do not use dyed linen for outerwear. My perspective is that linen degrades faster then wool and therefore is one of the reasons

[h-cost] linen

2005-12-03 Thread kim baird
De wrote: My perspective is that linen degrades faster than wool and therefore is one of the reasons that extant garments made of linen have not been found yet in the Medieval Western Europe. I don't think that's true. Some of the oldest clothing in existence is linen from Egyptian tombs.