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From: "Becky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Princess Elizabeth
I learned how to make the voided velvet in school so I can reproduce the
same looking fabric for th
Thanks for that description. I've never made sleeves like these and that
helps me to understand how they are placed on the arm.
The chemise in is the sleeve, but not the seen white fabric. That is another
fabric in the sleeve. The bell shaped ones attach to the bodice and the
funnel ones attach
Sue Clemenger wrote:
Or alpaca7 times as warm as wool. mm
Or, if you were filthy stinking rich, why not qiviut?
I don't find alpaca to be particularly softer or warmer than a good
quality wool.
There's always angora rabbit ...
Fran
Lavolta Press
http://www.lavoltapress.com
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I went over to the fabric store today and made a list of available colors.
There were too many for me to want to buy on spec, but I'll be happy to
pick up anything that anyone wants, and send it to you.
Figure $3.50/yard INCLUDING postage. These are all 100% silk (or so the
manufacturers claimed;
The chemise has sleeves that end in cuffs with ruffles. The white puffs that
you see on the false sleeve (gold sleeve) are not a part of the chemise
sleeve but pieces of white material sewn to look like it is the sleeve of
the chemise. The false sleeve is usually made to go just past the elbow or
f
Or alpaca7 times as warm as wool. mm
Or, if you were filthy stinking rich, why not qiviut?
--Sue
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From: "Lavolta Press" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Woolen u
You have said it! I use their edition of Braun and Schneider for lots of
picture references so I can leave the 19th C edition on the shelf.
Braun and Schneider is online, colorized, as is Tilke's ethnic costume
book. Google for either one.
CarolynKayta Barrows
dollmaker, fibre arti
> After a chilly first night at Estrella this year, I was able to purchase
> a pair of Merino wool socks at merchants row to keep my tootsies warm
> for the following nights. They are soft and not at all itchy. I began
> to think how lovely it would be to have an entire nightie made from such
>
Cashmere! I'm quite sensitive to wool next to the skin (senstivity
seems to vary a lot with the individual), but usually not pure cashmere.
Fran
Lavolta Press Books on Historic Costuming
http://www.lavoltapress.com
WickedFrau wrote:
Any ideas on where to find wool fabric which is really, reall
After a chilly first night at Estrella this year, I was able to purchase
a pair of Merino wool socks at merchants row to keep my tootsies warm
for the following nights. They are soft and not at all itchy. I began
to think how lovely it would be to have an entire nightie made from such
a wool.
Hi Robin!
I would be interested in some of the white and some of the bright colours,
I am having trouble finding your addy to speak to you directly about it...
Sheridan
> Since there's been such a response, I'll go in tomorrow and buy up the
> remaining white chiffon and organza (if there is any
I learned how to make the voided velvet in school so I can reproduce the
same looking fabric for the under sleeve and skirt front. I found a deep
pile velvet to use but haven't bought it yet.
So you think that the whole sleeve unit was connected since the chemise does
not go all the way down to
It was the Romeo and Juliet piece, and supposedly they are in love and very
happy. didn't skate too bad either theresa
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From: "Becky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Princess Elizabeth
Thank you for the description. I still wonder how the sleeves are
attached. There is no strap showing
Yes, some of the skating costumes are not to be believed
taste-wise(well, I guess they have to be visible from the nosebleed
seats).
If any of you watch "Project Runway" on Bravo, you know how difficult it
is to design and do a costume, especially in a two day time-frame that
the competiting d
I graphed it 8 years ago when I had no internet access. Did it from a book
that had the portrait in it.
De
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I think it was charted on those "temporarily removed" blackwork archives
that were parked on Drea Leeds web site.
Susan
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I am watching plain old NBC, so I haven't seen any curling. But the ice
dancing costumes are hilarious! Some of them seem to have things stuck all
over them. Some of the women's costumes are "cut away" in very strange
places. Last night I came in the middle of one team with very nice costumes
-- I
The fabric I purchased is close to both color descriptions. I call it deep
vibrant coral with a salmon hue lerking under neath the surface. Either way,
it's close enough for us!
Now to making it...
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From: "Dawn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMA
Thanks for the many responses to my query on color perception and
'mutations'. This has been very interesting to me with examples of both
fibers and painting/printing copies. Through the years I have had customers
who come armed with a picture from which they expect a costume copy. Trying
to tell
Purple Elephant wrote:
I have a general understanding of the
procedure, but every time I try it it seems to end up looking bulky
and wierd. I was wondering what dimensions of veil seem to work
best for this?
I use a long, narrow headcloth for this-- ie, about 35cm wide and 2m long.
--
Ad
Hope Greenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the costumes from last night's long program were an
improvement over the compulsory dance ones. I was impressed that
the few I saw actually seemed to fit the theme of the music--Romeo
and Juliet, Carmen, and flam
Well, the colour name "pink" is supposed to derive from the flower, which is so
called because the edges of the petals are "pinked". The uncultivated form of
the flower is pink rather than scarlet.
Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th century reenactor
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21/02/2006 19:02 >>>
Ref
Referring to those red fox-hunting jackets as "pinks" raises the additional
question of just what the British historically meant when they called something
"pink."
--Ruth Anne Baumgartner
scholar gypsy and amateur costumer
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>From: Suzi Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent:
Anyone remember the fantastical costumes of another favorite ice dancing
pair, the Russian team of Bestimianova and Butin who dominated the sport
in the 1980s? For the 1988 Olympic long program they wore this black and
gold number:
http://www.holidayonice.com/img/stars_nathalie_andre.jpg
That w
Subject: Re: [h-cost] 3 musketeers
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>Hi Cynthia,
>No no, sorry i take my words back. I really have misunderstanded this. I
>didnt re
Kate M Bunting wrote:
To me, the facial expression in the "rose pink" version looks slightly
different from nos. 1 and 3. I think I remember seeing that version in the Queen's
Gallery at Buckingham Palace about 20 years ago. If it's in the Royal Collection it may
well now be at Windsor.
I
Quoting otsisto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
A better picture.
http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/FrenchHood/1560/BessHardwick.html
I sat down once and copied the pattern on graph paper but I can't seem to
find it.
I think it was charted on those "temporarily removed" blackwork archives
that were pa
Anne was curvy--too curvy, apparently that Henry at least stated that he
thought she was no virgin. He found her breasts too slack and she
certainly was far from possessing six-pack abs.
Good Clevian girls were supposed to sit at home and sew and Henry's
previous wives were apparently more activ
There is always a lot of skin-toned beige in ice-dancing costumes, to
say nothing of some unfortunate color combinations. Turqouise blue with
leopard print--Ouch!
And did most of the competitors lug tanning booths into the Olympic
Village, or were several tons of spray-on brought in?
Cindy Abel
At 16:25 21/02/2006, you wrote:
A better picture.
http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/FrenchHood/1560/BessHardwick.html
I sat down once and copied the pattern on graph paper but I can't seem to
find it.
De
I love it that the neck and wrist ruffs are edged in red too, at
least that's how I see
At 16:01 21/02/2006, you wrote:
Fabric dyes vary in their resistance to color
change. Some dyes change color, some just fade,
some do both. It also depends upon the fabric
itself; in my experience cottons and linens tend
to hold their colors better than silks. Wools
have held their colors
In a message dated 2/21/06 4:27:15 PM GMT Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> For you who do dyeing (Natural or otherwise) did the color of dyed textiles
> of the past change because of exposure to sunlight or was there some
> chemical element that was not always stable and would mute or e
A better picture.
http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/FrenchHood/1560/BessHardwick.html
I sat down once and copied the pattern on graph paper but I can't seem to
find it.
De
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Speaking of redwork, do you know the one of Bess of Hardwick? Go to
http://worldroots.com/brigit
> Re the perception of color in these portraits:
> For you who do dyeing (Natural or otherwise) did the color of dyed
> textiles
> of the past change because of exposure to sunlight or was there some
> chemical element that was not always stable and would mute or even mutate
> over a period of tim
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the costumes from last night's long program were an improvement over
the compulsory dance ones. I was impressed that the few I saw actually
seemed to fit the theme of the music--Romeo and Juliet, Carmen, and flamenco.
...and then there were the Italians!
In a message dated 2/21/2006 2:10:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But organdy and organza are two very different things, an order of
magnitude different in weight!
Yeah but they both are used for children's clothes and they both make
good petticoats.
_
Fabric dyes vary in their resistance to color
change. Some dyes change color, some just fade,
some do both. It also depends upon the fabric
itself; in my experience cottons and linens tend
to hold their colors better than silks. Wools
have held their colors well. I had some acetate
plaid
In a message dated 2/21/2006 10:27:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
but the skaters costumes are really awful this year. I was thinking last
night that they should have points for the costumes, but then they would all
have them deleted so it would balance out.
Hi,
Ah yes, and the purple wheelfarthingale dress i made for Castle Selsø has
turned brownish grey :-)
Anyway it was a dupioni silk, and they dont hold their colours very long.
Dress was exhibited in a room with morning sun.
Bjarne
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From: "Lloyd Mitchell" <[EMAIL
Don't know about the curling shoes, but the skaters costumes are really awful
this year. I was thinking last night that they should have points for the
costumes, but then they would all have them deleted so it would balance out.
The snowboarding is a cross over from skateboarding and the kids
re organdy / organza - the first time I mentioned it I meant it was the
closest sounding word, not that it was the closest fabric (it's not).
gauze is definitely around from the 13th century (approx), but it's naturally
hard to tell whether it was the same fabric as later gauze - that it was ve
http://www.balanceplus.com/
I haven't been keeping a close watch on the dance skating but what I have
seen seems to match the ballroom dancing/dancing with the stars type
outfits. Molting huh? darn I missed that. :)
Yes, snowboarding with the rapa' style pants aka. anticipation pants.
Have you s
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice about
14th/15th century habit of wrapping one's veil about one's head to
become a kind of turban. I have a general understanding of the
procedure, but every time I try it it seems to end up looking bulky
and wierd. I was wondering what di
I don't know about hand kissing, but I always understood that if a lady was
wearing "dress" gloves - that is evening gloves or gloves simply as part of her
ensemble she left them on and if she was wearing riding or gardening gloves or
the like, they came off (obviously I would think) for hand
s
My Show will be costumed and acyed by those in their final year in the
Theatre program at Dalhousie University in Halifax. A bit of a commute for
you, maybe ;-)
The clothes already are being pulled together and look great. I'm looking
forward to seeing it. This has been the season of very em
Re the perception of color in these portraits:
For you who do dyeing (Natural or otherwise) did the color of dyed textiles
of the past change because of exposure to sunlight or was there some
chemical element that was not always stable and would mute or even mutate
over a period of time. In the pr
Hi-
Well i never dreamed of that it excisted either, untill i saw it with my own
eyes. But it also is expensive...
Bjarne
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From: "Caroline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 12:06 PM
Subject:
Yes this was the picture i looked at at the National Portrait Gallery.
Bjarne
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From: "otsisto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 12:43 PM
Subject: RE: [h-cost] Princess Elizabeth
This is coronation
Speaking of redwork, do you know the one of Bess of Hardwick? Go to
http://worldroots.com/brigitte/royal/british/brit-h.htm and click on the first
link under her name. I love the way the white fur lining pokes out of the
bodice opening.
Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th century reenactor
>>> [EM
SInce there was so much coverage, I became interested. Hooked? no
If you check out nbc.com, they say they have LOTS of info on the
Olympics.
Susan
"Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel
too fast and you miss all you are traveling for". - "Ride the Dark
Trail" b
To me, the facial expression in the "rose pink" version looks slightly
different from nos. 1 and 3. I think I remember seeing that version in the
Queen's Gallery at Buckingham Palace about 20 years ago. If it's in the Royal
Collection it may well now be at Windsor.
Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17
Printers and monitor vary is color.
This is what my monitor shows me.
This site has the dress in red with tan and dk gold sleeves and forepart.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:ElizabethTudorAt13-woc-0475.jpg
Scroll down. It is medium rose pink with sleeves and forepart in
monocromatic gold.
ht
This is coronation portrait
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Elizabeth_I_of_England_-_coronation_portr
ait.jpg
Is this what you saw?
De
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F
Hi,
I have also seen the Elizabeth Coronation portrait at the National Portrait
Gallery, some years ago. Perhaps they moved it to
I really haven't seen linen this fine in England. Maybe I haven't looked
hard enough.
On 21/02/06, Bjarne og Leif Drews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi
> Yes that linen i told you about some time ago, that my embroidery shop
> has,
> is so fine that it actually is transparent.
>
> Bjarne
>
> --
The over sleeve has a fitted upper half with a bell shaped lower half. If
you can find Jean Hunnisett's "Period Costume for Stage and Screen,
1500-1800" that's probably the most comprehensive resource on constructing a
Tudor outfit (http://www.longago.com/bookstore3.html is the only place
selli
Hi
Yes that linen i told you about some time ago, that my embroidery shop has,
is so fine that it actually is transparent.
Bjarne
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To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:53 AM
Subj
Hi,
I have also seen the Elizabeth Coronation portrait at the National Portrait
Gallery, some years ago. Perhaps they moved it to Windsor for a special
exhibition?
Bjarne
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