[h-cost] Barge Cement
I've used Barge cement many times and my husband uses it even more. Sure, it smells but nothing to panic about. I dries very quickly so you can go on to the next step without waiting over night like with E6000. I've very sensitive to smells and I'm able to use it in the house, no respirator, no fan. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] slashing fabric
Thanks for the responses. I knew the slashings could be done so they wouldn't fray. I guess the part I was really surprised by was saying that they slashed the clothing that was too small so it could be worn. I don' t know if that's just an origin story or what, but the Landsknect clothing I've seen was beautifully slashed in decorative ways and not in ways to make it larger. What say you all? G Julie I took a history of fashion class in college (design major) and the decorative cutting of clothes goes back to the 16th century if not earlier. It started with the german warriors who would take the fine silk clothing of the people they bested in battle but the clothing was too small (these were evidently big guys) so they cut the pants up in decorative slashes so that they could still wear them. (look up landschkinects) This was of course before the invention of the washing machine so the fabric didn't disintegrate like it would now with modern washing practices. And the fashion spread throughout Europe. The frayed edges of the cuts were definitely part of the design element of it to the extent that there were some fabrics woven to look like they had been decoratively cut...the frayed edge duplicated with an overlaid weft that was severed after weaving (like velvet, only in spots) and there were special chisels made for the tailors to do the cutting with. Thanks for your wisdom Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] slashing fabric
I saw this on another list and I thought I'd check with the wise folks on this list. I've never heard this before. Truth or myth? I took a history of fashion class in college (design major) and the decorative cutting of clothes goes back to the 16th century if not earlier. It started with the german warriors who would take the fine silk clothing of the people they bested in battle but the clothing was too small (these were evidently big guys) so they cut the pants up in decorative slashes so that they could still wear them. (look up landschkinects) This was of course before the invention of the washing machine so the fabric didn't disintegrate like it would now with modern washing practices. And the fashion spread throughout Europe. The frayed edges of the cuts were definitely part of the design element of it to the extent that there were some fabrics woven to look like they had been decoratively cut...the frayed edge duplicated with an overlaid weft that was severed after weaving (like velvet, only in spots) and there were special chisels made for the tailors to do the cutting with. Thanks for your wisdom Julie On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:00 AM, h-costume-requ...@indra.com wrote: Send h-costume mailing list submissions to h-costume@mail.indra.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to h-costume-requ...@mail.indra.com You can reach the person managing the list at h-costume-ow...@mail.indra.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of h-costume digest... Today's Topics: 1. LonCon Membership for sale (cc2010m...@cs.com) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 16:06:49 -0400 (EDT) From: cc2010m...@cs.com To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] LonCon Membership for sale Message-ID: 8d1733670fc8cbe-f04-12...@webmail-m257.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello, I am selling my membership to LonCon, the world SF con in London. I am asking $100, which is what it cost me at ChiCon. Henry Osier -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume End of h-costume Digest, Vol 13, Issue 62 * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Bernina Buttonholes
I have Berninas. While they make great buttonholes there just doesn't seem to be a big enough gap between the 2 bars. I consistently manage to cut a thread when I open them. Any suggestions? Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] What's everyone working on
I just finished a 1800s blouse and need a new project. I've been looking through old knitting machine magazines trying to decide if I want to sew or break out the knitting machine. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] repurposing vintage textiles
Come on ladies, this has degenerated into a cat fight. Move on to some far more interesting topic. I would have a problem with someone repurposing wearing something from 400+ years ago. Those textiles are scarce and I, personally, would rather see them in a museum full size pictures shared on the web. But that's me. There's certainly no law against using them. However with Victorian and 20th century textiles, I can't get too excited against repurposing them. Unless there's something unique about it these textiles are plentiful. If I were a smaller lady I'd occasionally wear (carefully and with undergarments) Victorian garments. I'm not, so I buy things I like as study pieces. I bought some beautiful Victorian handmade lace that I intend to put on a blouse I made...but fastened with snaps so it doesn't get washed with the blouse. I like to display the beautiful artifacts from the past. I also collect old needleworking tools jewelry buttons. In addition I'm learning how to do some of the lost arts like tatting, bobbin lace, bead knitting and hairwork. We honor value the arts of the past in our own ways. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Terms for men's pants
I thought knickers referred to underwear. Julie Last Sunday, a friend came to a Steampunk St. Patty's Day party sporting knickers. I am in the habit of calling them knee-breeches from my Rev War days. Is knickers the correct term for men's knee breeches in Victorian times? Henry Osier ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] terms or pants
Hey, be loud and proud about your sartorial choices. Terry ** definitely G Tongue stuck firmly in cheek: It never changes. Some guy (Charles Worth, for example) decides we all need to wear hoop skirts (for example) and we all follow along. I bet it's been going on since Mankind first started wearing clothes. And I don't mean only women who follow fashion slavishly; men are right in there too. We finally figure it out, **Too true. Why should I wear what somebody else decides on? I enjoy following fashion trends I really like, but since most trends are not historic (which to me is pre-1930), I follow many of the historic ones and ignore most of the others. Fran ** Exactly. That's why I sew. I can make things that look good on me regardless of what *they* say is in style. For me, 1920s is modern G Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] h-costume Butterick 5832
I found the source the designer used for the pattern - it's in Nancy Bradford's Costume in Detail, page 169 (at least that's the page number in my edition). There is also a color photo of the dress on page 378. It's that exact dress, right down to the slit at the bottom of the sleeve. But it is also clearly a surplice front in both the drawing and the color photo. So I've no idea why the designer decided on that bizarre asymmetrical bodice front in the pattern. But the sleeves and everything else seem to be an exact copy of the dress in Bradford. I think the color plate may have gotten reversed because the surplice shows as the left crossing over the right, rather that the right crossing over the left. I don't know if I've ever seen a fashion plate of the period with the crossing reversed like that. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] stretching cotton
Do you think iron on put on now after the fact would help? Actually it may not be worth the effort. The dress is showing wear where the bones are in the bodice and where the horsehair braid is in the hem. It's been worn only 4 or 5 times. I think it's doomed.:-( Julie Cotton stretches. Even drill stretches. A lotas in there is at least an inch difference in where my bodice for my Margo's dress laces between washed but not worn, and an hour or so after I put it on and lace it snugly (i don't tight lace)and it often stretches more by halfway through the day. One layer of cotton drill, with linen over,...two layers of drill on the front half under the one of linen. All you can is cut it, make sure seams are secure (and heavy interfacing can help...or the iron in, as it doesn't stretch much once ironed in)...and then deal with the fact that it *will* stretch between washings...and will look best when first put on for the day. Guarantee that the dress made the same way in that time period also stretched...I have pictures of my mom and aunts that prove it, in fact. -Liz H. (Elisabeth...generally one of the quiet ones here...on here anyway :-) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Question for experienced sempsters
I have a mystery that I'd like some insight on. I've spoken in person to all the costumers I know and all are baffled. I made a dress for my daughter from decent quilting cottons from Joanne's. It has a tight fitted bodice with boning. The dress stretched so I took it in. It stretched some more so I put elastic in key areas. It stretched some more. Yesterday just for giggles I tried it on. It fits. I'm substantially larger than my daughter (maybe 2 sizes). What the heck? The dress will fit her immediately after washing drying but begins stretching back out within an hour or so. Does anyone have any ideas? The fabric was washed dried before I cut it out. This is very discouraging. I worked hard to make it fit her just right. Now it looks like I'm a lousy sempster. But at least I guess I get a dress out of it. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] sewing machine recommendation
I'm jumping in here late. I have a Bernina 830 and 1230. NOT the new fancy one with the same name/number. The 830 is from 1973 or so. I thought the 830 rather than the 1008 was the last mechanical machine but maybe there was one after it. It's a wonderful machine. It was even in the middle school classroom where I worked for a bit. Very trouble free machines. I kept my 830 when I upgraded to the 1230 for the kids to use. I've used the pintuck feet for French Heirloom sewing for clothes for my daughter. I have visions of a blouse for myself as well but not so far. The pintuck feet have to be paired up with the right size double needle filling cord. They're simple to use and produce a very pretty effect. Julie ** Everyone is recommending the #10 for precise stitching, though the clear #34 foot also has its fans. Does anyone here use the pintuck needles and feet for historic clothing? Fran Lavolta Press www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Dang! WTH Happened?
This project was intended to teach me about fitting on someone else since I've gotten discouraged trying to fit myself. Hard to see your own back... Daughter *wishes* she lost that much weight G. And it was tried on AFTER being washed dried. So should this have been fit skin tight or less? Daughter kept saying it was too loose and I kept saying it wasn't a corset. How do you decide how tight is too tight and just what is wearing ease? Julie I just finished a 50's sundress for my daughter. It has a fitted boned bodice with a natural waist and a full skirt. I spent a lot of time fitting the bodice snugly to her. After one wearing she can stick her hand down the bodice and the straps are falling down her arms. It's 100% quilting cotton. It was pretortured and we've washed dried it again; it's still too large. I'll rewash dry it and then I'll have to take it in. I'm frustrated. Any idea what could have happened? The bodice is even lined. Here's what occurred to me first. 1) Could your daughter have lost enough weight to affect the fit? Alternatively, does she tend to have water retention issues before her menstrual periods? If so, the difference between her pre-period and post-period torso measurements might be causing the problem. 2) Cotton garments are their tightest right after a wash and loosen up in wear (as anyone who wears cotton denim jeans can attest). Sometimes they can loosen up quite a bit. If that's the problem with your fabric, you may just need to make the bodice not just snug, but actually tight, to get the desired post-wash post-wearing fit. Cathy Raymond First of all soundslike the fabric stretched.under the stress of getting so cleft? It happens. Second, most bond stuff in my experience hast to be somewhat over fixed with no ese and mat be measuring up to four inches less around than the body it is going to fit. The two sampled of this in rely life are cosettles and tight jeans. and ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Dang! WTH Happened?
I just finished a 50's sundress for my daughter. It has a fitted boned bodice with a natural waist and a full skirt. I spent a lot of time fitting the bodice snugly to her. After one wearing she can stick her hand down the bodice and the straps are falling down her arms. It's 100% quilting cotton. It was pretortured and we've washed dried it again; it's still too large. I'll rewash dry it and then I'll have to take it in. I'm frustrated. Any idea what could have happened? The bodice is even lined. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] help/advice needed re: closure
Thanks all. I went to a costumed event today and talked with one of the ladies there. I realized that in the process of cutting my gores I also ended up with a pair of half gores. So DUH! I'm going to put the half gores in the back and then magically I *will* have a center back seam for a zipper. I can't believe I didn't think of that. But very nice to have some good costuming brains to pick. Julie -Original Message- I just got it.. You don't have a side seam either, do you? I think I would divide up the center back gore so that you do have a CB seam to insert a zipper. Sylvia Rognstad Ezzyworld ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] help/advice needed re: closure
I'm making a 50's-ish sundress for my daughter. It has a fitted, boned bodice with a gathered skirt. The pattern was designed with a zipper in the center back seam. I've modified the skirt to have four gores. Can I put a zipper in that will have to kink off to one side to follow the gore? What would be a good closure? Everything I think of would be difficult for her to fasten in the back. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] What's your dressmaker?'s dummy wearing today?
She's rather naked right now but we're just out the door for a much delayed trip to LA's fabric district. Wish me happy shopping G Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Steampunk Patterns, was pattern suggestions
I do Steampunk. Although I haven't made them I bought a couple of Simplicity patterns that look great (2172 2207). They have the look without being as complicated as authentic Victorian patterns like Truly Victorian. If the link doesn't come through find Simplicity's page and use Victorian as your search term. www dot simplicity dot com http://www.simplicity.com/Search.aspx?SearchTerm=victorian Julie h-costume-requ...@indra.com wrote: Okay, folks, I may be getting a Steampunk urge, since a big event is right up the road in May. I long ago wanted to do an 1870s bustle style and this seems like a good opportunity. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Sherlock Holmes
What Charlene said. I haven't seen the 2nd one but I liked the first one. I own all the SH stories and am a big fan. I hate how the movies make Watson out to be a fumbling idiot. He was a returning Afghanistan war veteran. And they made Holmes out to be a robot. Also not true. As far as the costumes, they and the feel of the movie is very much Steampunk. As a Steampunker I think it was awesome and have plans to swipe a few ideas from Irene's costumes. I hope to see #2 over Christmas holidays. Julie I think part of the issue is more people are familiar with the old movies than are familiar with the books. Personally, I liked the first one and plan to see the second. I went in expecting a campy, adventure flick and that's what it was. --Charlene ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] 70's prom dresses
LOL. I attended in 1973. I can send you a picture of my date and I in all our splendor. Julie in Ramona ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Jaw Dropping: Final Price for Debbie Reynolds costumes
Thanks for sharing the catalog and the final results link. Was this not well publicized? I didn't hear a word beforehand. I saw her collection when she had it at her casino in Vegas. It was awesome and I loved it. It must have broken her heart to give up on her dream of a costume museum. Did anybody see the final total from the sale? To whom are the profits going? I couldn't see who bought the items. Did the collection get spread all over the world or did a few museums get the bulk? Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] 1920s Fashion Film Footage
Actual 1920s film footage on how to cut and style a bob hairstyle. It is at minute 2:39 in the video...lots of ladies' fashion and shoes in this one! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pwG-kRi0-Y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pwG-kRi0-Yfeature=related feature=related Penny Ladnier, owner I thought the view of the ladies playing with fox cubs in your arms; maybe someday around your neck was sweet! ** Nice film. Thanks for posting. 20's isn't my favorite look but I enjoyed seeing a real period example. Are those foxes...on leashes?! I thought they were puppies. And if they mean in your arms and then skinned and dead around your neck I think that's creepy. Did they ever wear a live fox? I wear a live cat...but not for long and not out of the house ;-) Julie in Ramona ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Kumihimo braiding books
I'm perusing books on Kumihimo braiding, and wish to ask the braiders on the list: which is/are you favorite? Which do you find to be the most comprehensive? The most practical? As much as I love collecting books, I'd like to start with one that's both a good starting point and still useful once I'm well past starting. I also came across the multiple volumes by Makiko Tada, which appear to be about braiding in general and, eep! are quite pricey. Does anyone own any of these, and is able to give a review? Claudine I've bought just about everything I can find on kumihimo. I like Rodrick Owen's book best. I feel like he's the most comprehensive. Next I think would be Jacqui Carey's beginner book. Jacqui may be harder to follow if you only use the hand held braiding card rather than the marudai (stand). There's lots of free stuff out there. Try some of the free patterns first on a disk. A disk can be as simple as a plastic disk (coffee can lid) with a hole in it and slits about 1/4 to 1/2 apart around the edge of the circle. Support the plastic with an old CD. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] hair work
Thanks for the recommendation---I ordered the book, surprisingly, Lacis had it for less than Amazon, but it does look like what I need to do this. IT could be a whole new venture for me, esp. since I could learn to make the findings from PMC. Yours in cosutming, Lisa A *** Oops - sorry, I just saw this. I've been buying everything I can find on hair work. I found this book as a free download on Google Books. It's not a crystal clear copy but you could see if it's what you want. Julie in Ramona ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] What book do you want to see in your Christmas stocking?
I have Moda a Firenze which covers Italian Renaissance costuming on my list. I've seen this book thanks to Inter Library Loan and it's wonderful. The other book on my wish list is lost from her majesty's back...just because it sounds interesting. I've never seen this book. Is it worthy to be on a wish list G? Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] how museums can help costumers
I know a number of us have contacted museums for private behind the scenes visits in pursuit of our historic costume research. I also know some of us work at museums, with costume collections. At the request of the Center for the Future of Museums, I wrote a blog post about my experiences visiting the Smithsonian's costume collection, with suggestions on how dedicated amateur scholars and museums might work together. I'd love to get your comments, as would the CFM, as helping the public use museums is what they do: http://futureofmuseums.blogspot.com/2010/11/mining-myculture-serving-community-of.html Please feel free to forward around! Allison T. I think the response you got from the Smithsonian was awesome. I'm surprised they alotted staff time for a non-professional. I have a couple of things I'd suggest for museums to help costumers. One would be to know what they have and accurately and fully describe it. I see a lot of errors describing knit vs. crochet vs. other techniques. Then I think one of the most useful things a museum could do would be lots of photos and get some darned closeups. The pictures I looked at on the from the link you posted for the Smithsonian didn't have anything that wasn't full length - no details at all. OTOH, some pictures I've seen from the VA get so close I could chart the knit or beaded designs. I really appreciate that kind of information online since it's unlikely I'll ever get to go to the museum. Julie in Ramona ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] new, modern Sherlock Holmes
A new Sherlock?!! I'm a lifelong fan. Is it only in the UK? Where/when/details for U.S. please! Julie in San Diego ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Italian chemise
This is a lovely chemise. Judging by how very tiny the pleats/gathers are it must be a very fine fabric. I haven't had much luck finding fine linen that wasn't outrageously expensive. Where have you found fine linen in the U.S.? Julie in Ramona h-costume-requ...@indra.com wrote: I have to make this chemise. Someone else had inquired about the bodice in this picture, but the chemise just really hooked me. http://exhibits.denverartmuseum.org/artisansandkings/?page_id=23 The painting is by Titian and the title is Woman with a Mirror, at least on wga.hu. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] may be OT: Help selecting a book
Hi all I have some birthday money and I'm debating between buying Tak V Bowes Departed (fingerloop braiding) and Jaqui Carey's book on Sweet Bags. What do you think? I think both are under my $100 limit, even with the pound to dollar conversion rate plus shipping. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Victorian Costuming Sites
My costuming experience is Renaissance and earlier. I'm just getting started w/ Victorian/U.S. Civil War and am wondering if there are some good online places I can look. I'l looking for: 1. Life times of Queen Victoria (just watched Young Victoria realized I don't know much about her) 2. Fashions from around then that could be steam punked. Around then, in the context of Queen Victoria, is too vague. She ascended the throne in 1837 and died in 1901; which period of her life would you like to use as inspiration? With that in mind, most steampunk costume takes the fashions of the 1870s and 1880s as inspiration, so you may want to focus on those periods. **I wasn't aware that steampunk focused on any particular decade but I'll focus on the later period. Are you interested in purchasing patterns or drafting your own? If you want to purchase a reasonable pattern, trulyvictorian.com has some good ones that are not bad to work with; their website includes a concise timeline of Victorian era costume. **I just finished a corset from Truly Victorian in a class. Thanks for the website. I'll check them out. I've also been looking at Western US clothing from the same time period. Seems more functional for an airship pirate G. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Victorian costuming sites?
My costuming experience is Renaissance and earlier. I'm just getting started w/ Victorian/U.S. Civil War and am wondering if there are some good online places I can look. I'l looking for: 1. Life times of Queen Victoria (just watched Young Victoria realized I don't know much about her) 2. Fashions from around then that could be steam punked. Thanks Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Blackwork Pattern Sought
I'm hoping someone here can help me out. I've misplaced the pattern for some blackwork that's in progress. I've checked everything I have at home and haven't turned it up. The pattern is a counted blackwork with acorns, oak leaves and trellis work that repeats in mirror image/left/right. It's not in Gostelow and not in the Blackwork Archives. I'm pretty sure it was from an online source. Everything else I've checked is a broken link. Julie in Ramona I put up a picture on my FaceBook account. Here's a link - we'll see if it works or gets cut off. http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30519328l=b9af6e2982id=1420967672 Thanks! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Blackwork pattern sought
I hope this isn't off topic - it *is* for a costume. I'm hoping someone here can help me out. I've misplaced the pattern for some blackwork that's in progress. I've checked everything I have at home and haven't turned it up. The pattern is a counted blackwork with acorns, oak leaves and trellis work that repeats in mirror image/left/right. It's not in Gostelow and not in the Blackwork Archives. I'm pretty sure it was from an online source. Everything else I've checked is a broken link. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Julie in Ramona ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] questions
Is there a difference between a farthingale and hoops? I need hoops/something under my skirts. 1. I'm told that the bridal hoops sold are made of synthetic material and so will be miserable at a warm fair. Is this so? Or are there hoops available made of cotton or linen? 2. If I have to make my own hoops, where do you recommend I buy the hoop material? 3. Who do you like for steel boning for corsets bodices? Thanks Julie in Ramona ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] how to fix a pulled seam
Thanks Linda and Rebecca. The jacket is fully lined so I'd have to undo it somewhere to turn it inside out. The bias tape over the seams sounds like a good idea used as a trim. Thanks! Julie h-costume-requ...@indra.com wrote: iF THE JACKET STYLE WOULD LOOK OKAY WITH A TRIM OVER THE SEAMS, TRY THAT. ZIPGAG OVER THE SEAM BEFORE STITCHING THE TRIM OVER IT. ADD SOME NEW STYLE TO AN OLD FAVORITE. JUST DON'T GO OVERBOARD. MAYBE YOU CAN FIND A SIMILAR CLOTH TO MAKE SOME BIAS TAPE TRIM THAT WON'T BE SO OBVIOUS AS A REPAIR JOB. Rebecca Rautine If the jacket isn't lined, or if you can get the lining out of the way, use a bias tape to reinforce the seams. Just sew it flat down on top of the seam, on the inside. On the outside you'll see a line of stitches on each side of the seam. This may or may not be acceptable to you visually, but it may be all you can do to save the garment. You may want to first re-sew the seams to get the fringey bits taken care of, before you do the reinforcement tape. ::Linda:: ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] how to fix a pulled seam
Help! I have a favorite jacket I'm trying to save. The fabric is a plain weave silky fabric. The seam was just sewn with a straight stitch with no seam allowance treatment. The stitches are just pulling through the seam allowance making fringe. It's on a 2 piece sleeve near the elbow. What are my options to save this? It's pulled right to the seamline in several places. I'm guessing I'll need to use a zig zag stitch but that's about as far as I've gotten. There's little to no seam allowance to work with. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Berina sewing machines
Anyone here familiar with the model 830? There is an auction for one here in Wisconsin. Opening bid is $20. Henry W. Osier Chairman, Costume-Con 28 I have an 830. It was purchased in 1974 or '75. It's the last of the all metal machines. I even had a room of them when I was teaching - few problems, great machine. I kept it when I upgraded to a 1230. It has zig zag but doesn't have the forward backward stitching. There is a current model 830 that has lots of embroidery fancies on it. Can be confusing. At $20 it must be the 30 yr old one G Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Help!
Thank you everyone so much for your suggestions. The recommendation on using a projector has always intrigued me but the unfortunate thing is that now days people who would or did once use them are less likely to, since the upgraded technology has led many to discard the old projector and adopt newer systems such as power point slides, etc. I was at Michael's yesterday and they had 3 different projectors that weren't horribly expensive. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What costume things did you learn in the 60s?
One Christmas, I got a big box of handmade clothes for my Barbie Doll. My mother, who was a professional seamstress, took all those Barbie clothes patterns and duplicated the same fabrics and colors. I was so thrilled! I wish I had those today! - Original Message - From: Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 2:07:18 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [h-cost] What costume things did you learn in the 60s? I loved that the old Barbie clothes had tiny snaps and itty-bitty zippers. They were made just like real clothes (this is before knits). I always felt that after the clothes were on the doll, with all the extra bulk at the waist, that she looked more normal. So many people got upset at her figure, but failed to take into consideration that she would be bulked up by the clothes. Once clingy knits became available, the ratio between hips-bust and waist became more obvious. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of annbw...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 7:04 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] What costume things did you learn in the 60s? I had a Barbie doll dress kit. I said that I learned to sew, period.? But I should add that it was sewing for my Babette doll (a cheaper imitation of Barbie) that got me started.? Does anyone else remember how one could buy a dozen or so outfits for the original Barbie, and they were all printed in a little book?? Well, my first efforts were to try to copy those outfits, but I finally started getting creative.? It was easier once commercial patterns came out for them (I still have all the patterns, BTW). Oh, I never bothered sewing snaps on, but just pinned them shut. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wed, Jul 8, 2009 8:26 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] What costume things did you learn in the 60s? I had a Barbie doll dress kit. You cut out the fabric, but instead of sewing, they had little, tiny, thin, twisty, hard to work with (can you tell I hated it) double sided tape, which you were supposed to use to put the thing together with. It never stuck correctly. I was bummed. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of annbw...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 4:02 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] What costume things did you learn in the 60s? I learned how to sew, period. Ann Wass **Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove0003) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Pillbox Hat
Thanks so much for the great discussion and lots of pics. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Primary source for Elizabethan pillbox hats sought
I'm trying to find a portrait of an Elizabethan or Italian lady wearing what we'd call a pillbox hat. There's one that's OK in QEWU of the Countess of Kildare but I know I've seen much better ones showing lots of beads pearls, and in color. Any leads? Julie in Ramona ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] JA POF 4
No one has mentioned what someone told me yesterday--there are color illustrations as well as black and white. I am SO ready for my copy to get here! MaggiRos ** Illustrations?! No, color PHOTOS and nice close up ones. Pictures are even better than those in QEWU!! Wonderful book. I paid the full $50 at our local ren faire. S worth it. Julie in Ramona (San Diego) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Tatting before 1600?
Thank you all for your answers. You reinforced what I thought I knew/remembered...it's out of our period. I've saved your messages and will used when challenged again G Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Tatting before 1600?
Greetings I have always heard that tatting didn't come into use before the 1700s and so haven't been doing it for Tudor/Elizabethan. Yesterday I was told by a lady that needle tatting can be documented to quite early and she said it's mentioned several times in the Canterbury Tales. She also mentioned that it's related to making fishing nets. I'm wondering if any of you knowledgeable folks out there can help me. I'm having a problem with her data for a couple of reasons. 1) If tatting shows up in the Canterbury Tales, I know word meanings change over hundreds of years. Do we know that tatting then is what we call tatting? 2) It's quite a reach from fishing nets to the tiny rings and picots of tatting. I believe they're related but I don't consider net making proof of tatting. Any help would be appreciated. TIA Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Help! Need a picture
HELP I need a picture/portrait of someone before 1600 wearing the stereotypical Russian 4 gore cap with the fur brim. I'm looking for a friend - this isn't an area I have much on. Thanks! Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Lace ID Help
Can anyone help me identify what type of lace is on a bodice circa 1900-1906? You can view a photo enlargement of the lace at: http://www.costumegallery.com/temp/1900beigebodicelace.jpg Penny Ladnier, Without being able to see it closely, is sure looks like Irish-type crochet. It has the little flower motifs crocheted separately and then crocheted into a ground. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Italian Ren gowns and purses/pouches
I really like that pocket and would be interested in embroidering a replica. I couldn't back out of the link to find the page with the pocket description, date, materials, etc. Could someone please direct me to that part of the site? Julie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are talking about 1500s the you might look for pocket pouches. http://vads.ahds.ac.uk/images/PHS/floral_pocket.jpg To my understanding these were wore under their skirts. It is believed that the skirts had a slit in them for easy access or in some cases where the pocket is between the under skirt and the over skirt, the over skirt would be hiked up for access. De ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Elizabethan frog closures
I made a coat dress/Spanish Surcoat which has frogs up the whole front opening. I'm trying to get documentation on the use of frogs in Elizabethan England. There are a couple of pictures in Janet Arnold. Does anyone have some links to either portraits or other primary type docs showing use of frogs and/or how the specific ones shown were tied? I'm using some very clever doo dads carried by FolkWear for tying these frogs. Much easier than just on a macrame board. I can't find period pictures of exactly what I'm doing, but will settle for close G. Thanks Julie in Ramona (San Diego) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] book lust G
I ran into a copy of Moda de Firenze (the Italian Renaissance costuming book) at a Ren Faire this weekend. I was all set to add it to my collection but was shocked at the price. The last time I looked it was going for about $80 U.S. Yesterday it was priced at $148. Has this book really gone up that much in a year or two? Is there another less costly vendor? BTW, on a simiilar note, how much is Queen Elizabeth's Wardrobe Unlock'd going for now? Thanks Julie in San Diego ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 138
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send h-costume mailing list submissions to h-costume@mail.indra.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of h-costume digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: V-neck regency gown? (Serena Dyer) 2. Fake Blood--getting out of costumes? (Kate Pinner) 3. Re: DESIGNER PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS (Sharon Collier) 4. Re: DESIGNER PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS (Sylvia Rognstad) 5. Director-designer professional standards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 6. Re: Director-designer professional standards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 7. Re: Director-designer professional standards (Lynn Downward) 8. Re: V-neck regency gown? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 9. Re: Fake Blood--getting out of costumes? (Sharon Collier) 10. Re: Director-designer professional standards (Paula Praxis) 11. Re: Fake Blood--getting out of costumes? (Dawn) 12. Re: Director-designer professional standards (Margo Anderson) 13. Re: DESIGNER PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:11:37 +0100 From: Serena Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] V-neck regency gown? To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I believe there is a slight overlap on this pattern, but not to the extent that there is in Janet Arnold. There are some pictures of the dress made up at GBACG in their Pattern Review. http://www.gbacg.org/great-pattern-review/la-mode-bagatelle.html (direct link the La Mode Bagatelle page on GBACG) Hope that helps Serena Dyer http://www.pemberleydesigns.co.uk -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:22:11 -0400 From: Kate Pinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Fake Blood--getting out of costumes? To: 'Historical Costume' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This may have been discussed before, but I don't remember. What formulas do you use for blood and If the director wants it smeared on a costume (on stage), how do you get it off -- especially wool and or velvet? Kate -- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:37:54 -0700 From: Sharon Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] DESIGNER PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS To: 'Historical Costume' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII This is why I feel regular production meetings are so important. At the first meeting, all the designers and the director get together and discuss the direction of the show re: design, style, etc. As soon as the show is cast, meet again and make any changes (if the leads won't look good in the original ideas, change them ASAP) Then meet every week until tech week. It keeps the director and producer from getting any surprises and you can let folks know if their expectations aren't going to be met because of budget/time/lack of help, etc. As to professional standards, if the director/producer changes my ideas so radically that I would be embarrassed to have my name on them, I do the job as asked (I'm assuming you're getting paid), but ask that I not be listed in the program as the designer, after all, if your designs have been altered, they aren't a good reflection of your abilities. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AVCHASE Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 7:46 PM To: h-costume posts Subject: [h-cost] DESIGNER PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS Hi, All. The most recent show on which I worked opened last last Thursday. And over all its a good show. But some of the fallout has been very upsetting to me. The director invited me to do this show for her, her last show (she's said that for for the last three years), and I've done them. Each time some cast members have been down right vicious. This time was the worst. It occurred to me we expected different things as/from a designer. I'd just assumed they all understood that I only did these shows to practice my craft, keep my abilities in shape, and explore my ideas. Maybe her agenda was different? So I sent an email and asked what she had expected when she engaged a designer. She wrote back to me a very complimentary (damned by praise-forget faint) note about my design capabilities; but-said I was overbearing, didn't listen to the actress's ideas and was not willing to take suggestions form the actresses. The ideas and suggestions were put forth a few days
[h-cost] Director-designer professional standards
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This a discussion that benefits all era of costume. Agreed that not all on this list work in theater but many of us do and to hear from others about your experiences is great. I agree the modern period is the most difficult to design for. I much prefer period plays. however there are some times that are more difficult than others. I designed a play set in ancient Egypt. I love archeology and am aware that slaves in the real' ancient Egypt worked naked - this didn't go over too well with my director - so I let her have her way and designed slave costumes for the ensemble. I'm helping with costumes for my 6th grader's class play, which is set in Minoan era Crete. Not surprisingly, the teacher doesn't want historically accurate costumes. We're putting them in chitons. :) Margo Snicker, giggle. What, you mean they didn't want bare 6th grader boobies for their play? Julie in San Diego ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Tudors Sweating Sickness (OT)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send h-costume mailing list submissions to h-costume@mail.indra.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit There is substantial mention of a sweating sickness that killed thousands during Henry VIII's time. What was that? No mention of buboes like for plague or marks like smallpox. Did this really happen or was it just part of their story? It was very contagious and people were told to burn all clothing bedding. I believe consumption is tuberculosis, right? Any other old disease names with modern equivalents I should know? I know the costumes were discussed when the show first came out What I found most jarring was anything from the neck up. The hairstyles were extremely modern. Long hair was down exposed. Crowns headgear, at least on the women, looked fantasy or Las Vegas. Julie in Ramona The sweating sickness is one of those medical mysteries that we may never be able to answer. It was evidently a real sickness (there are many references in contemporary letters and documents), but what caused it is unknown. It was evidently not plague or smallpox, both of which have readily recognizable symptoms; it was not tuberculosis, which does not kill in a few hours or days. From the descriptions, it sounds, to me, like it could have been a particularly virulent form of influenza or even malaria. Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interesting. My daughter mentioned malaria but I told her it couldn't be that because it's tropical. Cholera was mentioned as well. I was thinking along the lines of the horrible influenza in the U.S. in 19...teens that killed so many. Wasn't it called the Spanish Influenza? Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Comments on The Tudors
I rented the disks from Blockbuster this weekend and had a couple of questions/comments. There is substantial mention of a sweating sickness that killed thousands during Henry VIII's time. What was that? No mention of buboes like for plague or marks like smallpox. Did this really happen or was it just part of their story? It was very contagious and people were told to burn all clothing bedding. I believe consumption is tuberculosis, right? Any other old disease names with modern equivalents I should know? I know the costumes were discussed when the show first came out What I found most jarring was anything from the neck up. The hairstyles were extremely modern. Long hair was down exposed. Crowns headgear, at least on the women, looked fantasy or Las Vegas. Julie in Ramona ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Costume related Christmas gifts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not a gift, but definitely costumey - got to see Burton's Sweeney Todd - hilarious, and very over the top visually (at last! Goth beachwear!) Allison T. I got to see the Preview in San Diego on 12/13 sponsored by the local Goth group. I took my daughter who still hasn't gotten her driver's license. Yes, DD dressed me up, but I didn't do the weird makeup. I can tell you I was a bit nervous thinking I'd be the only normal person there. Fortunately the most outlandish ones were people I already knew so I was OK G. I hear the picture is already up for multiple awards...but not from me. I tried to concentrate on the costumes and ignore the gore. The goth beachwear *WAS* a crackup. One of the few scenes where bright color was used. Julie in Ramona ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Hello? - reply
Yes, your message has gotten through to me just fine! Julie Shane Sheridan Chabot wrote: I have not been receiving any email from the list lately, could someone let me know if this goes through. :0) Thanks! Sheridan P ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] pirate coat
Thanks for the suggestions! I'll be checking them all out. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] looking for a pirate coat
My husband is looking for a not very fancy great coat for pirate events. He wants to be more merchant than showy pirate. Who has a good pattern that's not going to require full on tailoring, padstitching, etc. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Chinese costuming help
My daughter has now decided on a Chinese personna, ca 1575. We don't have to be particularly authentic, just recognizably Chinese. She's supposed to be the widow of a Chinese trader in spices, silks opium visiting the Spanish court. I bought Folkwear's cheongsam dress and Chinese coat patterns. Now I'm looking for some embroidery and/or applique details. An image search turned up some gorgeous coats/gowns from museums. I'm trying to find sketches or schematics of decorative facings and embroidery that are usable to someone who doesn't draw. I've been begging hubby to draw some of the details off the museum photos for me but nothing so far. * It'll be a smidge expensive on the used/rare book market, but find a copy of 5000 years of Chinese Costume. It's the most comprehensive resource I've ever found on Chinese clothing. andy * Wow! I found it from $81 to $300 but no pictures, darn it. I'd have to see a bood that expensive before I bought it. Thanks for the lead. *** I know Dover books has a couple on Chinese designs. They are cheap and readily available through most bookstores. It's all black and white line drawings and easy to reproduce, and permission is given with each purchased book to do so. *** That's right! I've looked at them - with a CD as well. Thanks for the reminder. *** Joann's is advertising brocade on sale for $5.99 this week. You might be able to cut strips of that and use it as edging on something. I'm not sure using poly brocade for the whole dress is a good idea this time of year. Dawn That's exactly what I bought. One small patterned brocade to use as the coat and a solid for trim/facings. Then I bought another brocade with 5 medallions and plan to cut them out and applique on the blouse. I tried to find a quilter's cotton that would have worked but didn't find anything except solids that would have to be heavily embellished. I'm not pleased with the polyester brocade for summer, but this needs to be ready by Sept. 9. * The cheongsam, while a truly lovely garment, was developed in Shanghai around 1930 from an earlier and looser coat/robe garment (rather like this men's garment (center one) from the late nineteenth century in Max Tilke: http://www.indiana.edu/~librcsd/etext/tilke/plate/123.jpg). Ann in CT Yes. I was aware of that. I'm straddling that fine line of finding something remotely appropriate that dd will wear. She doesn't like the shapless tunics, even in beautiful fabrics. At least I'm getting her out of her pirate wench garb G. One battle at a time... I'm counting on not too many mundanes having a clue that the cheonsam is too modern G. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Chinese costuming help
My daughter has now decided on a Chinese personna, ca 1575. We don't have to be particularly authentic, just recognizably Chinese. She's supposed to be the widow of a Chinese trader in spices, silks opium visiting the Spanish court. I bought Folkwear's cheongsam dress and Chinese coat patterns. Now I'm looking for some embroidery and/or applique details. An image search turned up some gorgeous coats/gowns from museums. I'm trying to find sketches or schematics of decorative facings and embroidery that are usable to someone who doesn't draw. I've been begging hubby to draw some of the details off the museum photos for me but nothing so far. Any leads? Thanks in advance. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] 2002-4 fashions
OK. I've resisted as long as I could. Of course I remember what I was wearing in 2002-4 because I'm still wearing it - and from much earlier too. It's probably heresy on a fashion-related list, but I refuse to wear some of the ugly junk that shows up in stores. It's expensive and frequently in ugly and unflattering colors. I quit trying to follow the trends and I stick with what looks good on me...or at least doesn't look too awful ;-) Julie ** Any of you ladies recall what you wore in the years 2002-4? I'm drawing pretty much of a blank. I'm costuming The Last 5 Years and it goes back in time 5 years. I know things haven't changed that much, but there have been some changes. For instance, I do remember wearing long straight and slightly a-lined skirts, alot of the latter made out of knits. I still have them. What else was popular that is different from today? Sylrog ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] embroidery question
I've used Wonder Under when I was planning a machine satin stitch over the applique. I'm looking for a way to keep the edges turned under for hand applique. I usually sew my applique with a backing of some very light fabric - maybe even netting - and then turn the shape much like a pillowcase. No fighting with teeny seam allowances but doesn't stick to the base fabric either. Any ideas for sticking? Julie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you talking about Wonder Under? It is a fusible material, with paper on one side. You iron it to your fabric, then you can draw on the paper. Cutout the design, peel off the paper and you have a custom, iron-on appliqué. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Monkey Claw Buttons
Apparently I have these links saved at home and not at work. There are several sites devoted to frogs, Chinese knotting. A Google search should turn it up...but look for monkey PAW rather than claw. There's another name as well...Turkish something. Julie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently on one of the lists, someone posted a site that had, in addition to frog closures, directions for making a monkey claw button (a round button made of cord). I did not save the site, and wouldn't you know, a few weeks later I need to make monkey claw buttons. Does any one remember the site we discussed, or another site with directions for monkey claw buttons? Pardon the cross-posting, those of you on multiple lists, and thanks in advance for your help, all. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] name of a hat?
What is the correct name of the medieval hat commonly referred to as the coffee filter hat? It looks like a sailor's hat without any crown and usually involves a chin strap and a hair net. I finished one over the holidays. Looks pretty good but I don't know what to call it so I can turn it in as an arts project GG Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Name of a Hat?
I got an answer from Cynthia herself on the Milliner's list: Heh. I think that one is my fault, at least partially. They really do look like coffee filters, don't they? Fillet is one term, toque is good if you subscribe to the closed-top version, and I don't know what the medievals reallly called them. I've heard some folks call them a Plantaganet cap but I don't know the provenance of that one. Cynthia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DunnoI've always heard them referred to in informal terms--coffee filter hat, pie-crust hat, etc., depending on the particular style. You might look at the hat section in Cynthia Virtue's website--I recall seeing hat-ish stuff there in the past. --Sue What is the correct name of the medieval hat commonly referred to as the coffee filter hat? It looks like a sailor's hat without any crown and usually involves a chin strap and a hair net. I finished one over the holidays. Looks pretty good but I don't know what to call it so I can turn it in as an arts project GG Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] What's your dressmaker dummy wearing and sewing affliction G
Well, my dummy is naked, but my sewing machine and work table are wearing pieces of the medieval dress with big bell sleeves that I've taken apart so I can remake it to fit me. When I bought it I thought it would just need hemming. Once I got into it I found it was going to be much more complicated. I ended up taking it apart almost to flat fabric. The neckline in it was cut so wide that I've had to create a contrast yoke instead of just an overlay. I've also bought an Elizabethan that's worked out the same way. Loved the fabric. I thought it would be a quick fix...but I was wrong. I got the front of the bodice to fit well but I had a 3 gap at the back lacing! The bodice and forepart are the same fabric so I'll be salvaging from there to remake the bodice. Why is nothing ever as easy as it first appears? A friend of mine commented that most seamstresses he knows buy fabric to make costumes but I buy costumes and make fabric G. I've thought about that a lot. I think I have a severe fear of making that initial cut into virgin fabric. Anyone else suffer from this? Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] hair taping
Sorry getting in the middle of the topic. Have you tried braiding your hair when wet or with a little gel or mousse? Usually it isn't thick hair that is the problem but how smooth/slick the strands are. De -Original Message- Hi Elizabeth, Yes, I've tried the hair taping (as seen in the second link you gave), and it will only stay on my head if I then wrap the hair in a kertch. It won't stay up on its own, and it wouldn't stay stable for a base for the French hood. Also, it falls apart in the kertch that I wore, and only the wrapping of the fabric around my head kept it from coming down. Maybe it is because I am doing my own hair, it is very thick, and I really don't do much practice in hair braiding in general. I am not sure what else to try, so I gladly will accept suggestions. Kimiko - Maybe it has to do with what you're using for the hair taping. Usually we use single faced satin ribbon. Comes out in a day. At one fair we were out of ribbon and so used the lucet braid I had on hand made out of cotton rug warp. That hair taping stayed in for 3 days! I slept with a silk scarf over it. It would have stayed UP longer, but there were too many fuzzies escaping. I wonder if using cotton twill tape instead of satin ribbon would work better. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] help..I've been trying to get removed from this list for months
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[h-cost] help with docs for linen
Thanks Rogin, Melanie, Cynthia Gail for your help. I have Cennini. I'll use that quote. I don't have FITAOTBP though - it's on my list at Amazon. Can someone pretty please come up with a quote? Thanks Julie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are several references in Fashion in the Age of the Black Prince to linen outer garments; some cloaks, a fighting jack, and something else (at work not at at home). I think mostly from, wait for it, Italy. 14th century. So, why not late 15th century? Cynthia, the lurker ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] help with docs for linen
I'm just finishing up a dress for my daughter. It's Italian ren, about 1490. I'd like to turn it in as an arts project but I know the judges will hassle me about using linen. I've been told that linen was only for undergarments and wasn't used for outer garments. Can any of you help me disprove that? Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] dressing 80's
When my daughter wanted to dress 80's she went in leggings, a striped leotard, headband and leg warmers - think Olivia Newton John and Let's Get Physical G My daughter wants to dress 1980s for a school theme. I've described the look (I lived through it!) but she really wants to see photos. What I remember (small town in the midwest) was a modified version of the valleygirl slash preppy. Punk didn't make it to my part of the world until it was called Goth. :-) Share links if you've got 'em, please! Thanks Denise B Iowa ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] favorite one-period-interprets-another
But I, and others of mature years do not wear my jeans ridiculously baggy or tight. Shoes seem to be the best giveaway to gender. Can you really tell me that you haven't seen someone whose gender you couldn't tell by their clothing? I'm not talking the folks walking in Hollywood purposely trying to confuse things. So, I still think that a future reenactor, particularly male, could be reasonably accurate from the 1950's in jeans and a t-shirt. Clear back to the 1850s if he wore a plain shirt, not unlike a man's shirt from Renaissance times and earlier G. However, since that's not pretty wouldn't it be deemed beginner garb? Julie in San Diego with tongue firmly in cheek And, at least around here, the fit of the jeans. Guys wear them ridiculously over-sized and baggy, and gals wear them ridiculously tight! No way to confuse the two. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] illustrator vs fashion historian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I don't criticize Kate Greenaway's work for what it isn't, rather I love it for what it is. **I must have missed the first part of this. Who is Kate Greenaway? (My personal favorite one-period-interprets-another is the early 1920s doing American colonial 1770s, complete with the dropped early-20s waist. I actively collect examples of this.) **Can you put this up in files or on your website? I'd love to see this. What a scream. Most people don't realize that what they're wearing right now, like as they're reading this e-mail, will be considered historical 100 years from now. **I do. I think about what a reenactor from the future might wear to portray the turn of the century. Maybe Levis and T-shirts for both men and women. (Hmmm...how could those folks tell men from women back then. And both men and women could have any length hair. Weird ;-) Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] for Bjarne - bezants update
Hi Bjarne I know you've been working with spangles/bezants and thought you'd be interested in this site. This came from the SCA Bead list. ***I know there are a number of peopel who are hungry for these things and have been toying with making some - tonight was a useful night of not sleeping. This is the last time I will call them bezants. They aren't bezants. They are something different, something almost purely germamic that orginally can from scadinavia and the vikings. They are/were money. At least they were to the 15th C. They were being made decoratively I'm sure as soon as folks started sewing them on to things to keep from losing them. Schmuckbrateaten (Ornamental thin coins) or Bracteaten thats what I will call them now. I have a number of links up , (more on the way I'm sure) including one that has a diagram (and a few described processes) on how they were made (just as I have said all this time, stamped baby) They are just thin one sided coins. http://medievalbeads.com/docs/docs-bezants.shtml (I also got my classes on the front page for pennsic, updated the bezants page, and redid the class notes page - much clearer now) now to bed griz*** Julie in San DIego ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT - what do you make to beat the heat - reply
Where can one purchase Wolford hosiery - I hate nylons! Julie Chiara Francesca Arianna d'Onofrio wrote: Anyway, what are other people making to cope with this seasonably toasty weather? Call me a hard core southerner but I love this heat. That being said, when I am out and about running from one spot to another, the heat does win out. I am wearing long loose a-line dresses with slits up the side leg, slightly off center so that when I sit it does not reveal my bum. Three quarter length sleeves. If skirts, I have the same style slit. If I have to wear hose I wear Wolfords, they feel like nothing at all and do not make my feet sweat. This kinda dress lets the air breeze though my legs when I have to walk out side the office. Chiara ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] treadle machines
Is it the foot pedal that is the trouble? I once found a table set sewing machine on the side of the road on garbarge day that worked by a knee pressed lever (much like the industrial machines have to raise the pressure foot) It was too confusing for my poor old trained mind so I gave it to my sister-in-law to use. She still uses it. *** Also, if that's the case, I've seen cabinets or conversions that place the foot pedal into some sort of case with a knee lever attached. I learned on one like that and had to retrain myself when I got a machine with a foot pedal and a knee presser foot lever. How do you folks handle that? I pedal with my left foot and raise the presser foot lever with my right knee. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Movies-things that make you cringe!
I've just been having a costume-a-thon at my house (coronation is Saturday and we have to dress the queen G). As we're sewing we've been watching movies and of course snarking the costumes. We watched Kiss Me Kate. My daughter wants the red dress the shrew wore. It was Hollywood Italian Ren. We watched Court Jester last night. Actually the costumes weren't too bad. It seems that costumes, effects, make up, and everything else has improved as the audience has gotten more sophisticated. Still, it's fiction. And none of those will be allowed to get in the way of a good story or making a buck G Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] eyelets in GFD
Oh, on marking technique: Realistically, I know they probably didn't measure. I've stopped using numeric measurements for almost every part of my fitted dress construction, and I think I'm at about the point where I don't need to measure eyelets either. I imagine the medieval seamstress spaced eyelets with her finger or thumb, all the way down the row. --Robin Dang! I needed this last night. I put the eyelets into a GFD by carefully measuring 1 increments and off set with 1/2. Thumb would have been easier. I made tiny machine buttonholes. The dress is needed Saturday. Guess it's not an arts project G. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Last of the Mohicans
I love to play a kind of game when watching a historical costume film or TV show I call: Find all the things in the costumes that give away the year the film was made. Hairstyles and makeup of the leading actors is a dead giveaway. If you want to see a costume designer's original intent: check out some background extra. Start watching those old films and have fun! -- giggle, snerk. I've done that - same with still photographs. Have you watched an episode of Classic Star Trek? Also, go back and watch movies you thought were really cool/scary/ whatever when you were a younger with your kids. Mine thought Jaws was lame, Psycho wasn't scary and the Trek clothes were lame too. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] arsenic
I'm not sure if this was presented as fact or if it's one of those urban legends, but I read that decades after his death, some of Napoleon's hair showed up at auction and was tested for various things. It showed that he had ingested arsenic on an ongoing basis. So was someone trying to poison him or was he using unsafe cosmetics of the time? Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] this list
Maybe I'm just too used to the Yahoo groups, but does this list have a files, photos links section? Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Ruffs
Now I'm curious: how many people actually starch their ruffs after they're made like I do? And I'm curious if anyone has found something permanent to deal with the ruffs. There is a type of stuff sold at craft stores for making baskets out of lace doilies. It sets up permanently and supposedly doesn't wash out. I've used white glue thinned with water for craft items but never on clothing. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] what do renaissance seamen look like?
The temptation to make a rude pun is almost overwhelming...but I'll resist G They would wear what everyone else would wear. There was no particular uniform of a pirate. I looked into this when my huibby was giving me grief about dressing up. What we think of as pirates is out of period...the great coat, the striped clothes, etc. Darn. My hubby as Captain Jack...hmmm.. Hubby said he'd wear a great coat tall boots. Tunics are dresses... Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] (no subject)
-Original Message- I don't need an insurance inventory, fortunately! Well, everybody might need to claim insurance some day. My in-laws' house burned down in the firestorm in the East Bay some years ago, and it turned out their policy required listing every single item they wanted to claim, down to the skillets and the towels--along with current values. I'm well aware how much work that is, because I did most of it. I'd like to second that. I learned that hard lesson after the San Diego fires in 2003. The insurance company expected us to list each and every item we'd lost AND give them an idea of what they were worth. They also wanted to see the burned carcasses or photos of same. They had a hard time believing $1000 for a tent and hundreds for period camping furniture. Fortunately the books weren't touched. Julie in Ramona/San Diego ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Sees
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ObCostume: So, for those familiar with See's -- what era is the inspiration/origin of their uniforms? (See http://www.sees.com/about.cfm for an example.) It strikes me as somehow earlier rather than later 20th century, but the 20th century isn't exactly my area of costuming interest... I'd say early tacky or late dowdy ;-) Seriously though, I've seen some hideous work uniforms but I think Sees is a real leader here. Fortunately their candy is wonderful and they're not selling their uniforms...those poor ladies... Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] RE: h-costume Digest, Vol 5, Issue 80
Do you consider my bag for 100 dollars cheap or expensive? Globalisations is catching up on us. God or bad? Bjarne -Original Message- Having done stumpwork, I consider $100 a reasonable price for the bag. That's the type of unique item that my husband tries to buy me for birthdays, etc. G Julie in San Diego ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Stockings on a frame
Not quite right. Lee, who may or may not have been a Reverend, invented an honest to goodness knitting Machine, not just a peg frame. It's amazing just how complicated the machine was. His machine knit flat. It was not a latch hook machine like modern ones. I don't know how far back a circular stocking knitting machine goes. The frame knitters could be circular or flat but the gauge was coarse. There have been no extant knitting frames found from before 1600, darn it. But there is mention of a limit on the number of frames that could be utilized in a shop. Seems to be the best and/or only reference to knitting frames within SCA period. Julie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The frame was invented by Reverend Lee in the late 16thC and presented to Queen Elizabeth I for a patent. The story goes that she refused, based on the fear it would put hand knitters out of business. She did suggest that he should refine it to make fine-knit silks. Lee died in poverty and his brother took the frame to France and developed it further. So it was probably through the 17thC that framework stockings began to be made in any quantity. By the early 18th century, framework stockings were known, and handknits were still being made. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] knit stockings
OK. I can make knit yardgoods (5 knitting machines). What would the stitches per inch be? Is there a decent pattern anywhere? Julie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I'm convinced the cut-from-yardgoods stockings existed. Come to think of it, there is a stocking I looked at from around 1880 that fit the category - one of the fancy knit fabrics that probably could not have been done any other way. SNIP A knitting machine has been invented in Seneca, N. Y., that is said to knit a perfect stocking in less than five minutes. Aikens's knitting machines are very popular. We have thought ladies would do well to try them, and devote themselves to making up hosiery. We' doubt not but it would pay very well. - The cloth is knit in a straight piece, and another lady cuts it into shape and sews into the articles wanted. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] No Subject
I recently finished an embroidery project using reeled silk. What with my nasty rough hands and putting it into and out of the work bag I can certainly understand covering up all but the part being worked. The bag is gorgeous but snags like crazy. I keep it in a plastic food bag before putting it into my work bag. I'm afraid to wear it because it snags so easily. Julie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H, you have my curiosity up. Isn't the edge of the fabric on the hoop protected by the outer hoop? If it is the rest of the fabric you are worried about then I could see why you'd want to place a piece of tissue paper over the entire embroidery (with the inner hoop underneath) place the outer hoop on top, then tear the paper off where you want to work. Not to argue with Tania-you guys over there call stuff differently than we, but silk paper over here is rather expensive. Tissue paper is really cheap and is mostly used for wrapping gifts. It is the same as the paper most patterns are made of over here (very light and easily torn). ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing?
Mine's just wearing the canvas cover since I never got her to remotely resemble me...with an instructor's help. How do you model rounded shoulders and a hollow chest? A friend and I are planning on making duct tape doubles. Any better suggestions? I know that pinning will be more difficult and pins will get sticky. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] byssus
I didn't get that to turn up the gloves, but a search on mussel did. Also try Sir Hans Sloane...a collector of curiosities. I have to say, the gloves sure don't look particularly impressive but there isn't a good close up. Julie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: [h-cost] RE: Archves (was Strange spinning question)-the gloves are online at the British Museum! To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed *http://tinyurl.com/cpvvu Well, if it is true, there they are! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Tambour embroidery
I'm wondering just what *is* tambour embroidery. I have a series of needles in assorted sizes that I can put into a handle, run thread through the needle and up the hollow body of the handle and do what I was told was punch embroidery or Russian embroidery. I also have a tambour hook. It looks like a crochet hook on a solid wooden handle but has a vicious point on the head of it. I don't see where the thread would go with this one. I thought it was worked from the wrong side of the fabric and the thread (and beads) run across the front of the fabric. You make chain stitched on the wrong side that's facing you. Which is what? And is either one found before 1600? Thanks Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] the 20th century
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pants, especially pants on women. Possibly blue jeans. **Excellent example. Blue jeans first came into being around 1849. Then were popularized in the 1950's and have remained in some form or another since then. Remember bell bottoms? Remember having to have Designer labels? Also interesting that this is a garment worn by men, women and children, rich and poor, fancy versions and work versions. I sometimes think about what reenactors might wear 400 years in the future. Maybe jeans and a t-shirt will be the future version of T-tunic, i.e. the basic garb for reenactors. Hmmm...T-tunic and T-shirt...coincidence? ;-) The thing about the 20th century is, that so much more has been published, that it's much harder for the works of any fiction writer to emerge from the sea of other stuff as even existing, let alone great or not. **Excellent point as well. There is so much, what can stand out? I know I love both Diana Gabaldon and Dickens. Who would you say are the stand-out writers of the 19th century? I'll tell you who I think the greatest 20th century writer is so far: Gene Wolfe. **Hmmm...not familiar with him. I'll have to hit the library. THanks for the lead. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] why renaissance and not 18th century?
I like so many different periods. I especially think the men look HOT in 18th 19th century clothes. What was that Hugh Jackman and Meg Ryan movie? YUM. But for me, it's easier to sew the earlier period costumes. Julie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just plain like the clothing from the 16th century better. Not so fond of the 18th century stuff, it just never appealed to me. Isn't taste interesting? There's really no period I hate, but I LOVE the 18th century...generally of course. Things look different depending on the decade...but the coat [justicorps or frock] waistcoat and pants [breeches] on men are the best. Especially IMHO at the end of the century. The open robe developed for women is a wonderful canvas to try all kinds of decorations on. The conical corset, layered skirts and open necklines look good on just about every type [even large women look great!] and can be very sexy. But I could go on about the 17th century's fabulous hats, wonderful off the shoulder rigid bodices [like in the 1660s] and wigsand of course all those 18th century things I like START in the late 17th century. And of course the 16th century men in leather doublets, short hair and beards look fantastic too. The women look good but not in a very feminine way to me. It's more ceremonial and elegant. Then there's the 19th century. As far as making any of the periods...they all equal out. Different difficulties in each, but just as many. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Clothing Superstitions
***my comments It makes me wonder if a straightening iron for hair would work for last minute hem pressing? Maybe I will try it in a rush one day. ***I'm used that too..collar, twisty button placket, hem. Not very effective, but better than nothing. Better is noticing the problem the night before and spraying it with a mister bottle and letting it dry G. During West Side Story last year, I rigged two full sized flags into two actresses' underskirts with safety pins. The actresses lifted their skirts to reveal the flags at the end of the song America. We had three minutes to do the pinning between scenes. It worked. You can see a photo at: http://www.costumegallery.com/Manchester/WWS/flags3.jpg I had the safety pins already in their place in the skirts and petticoats, when it came time to put the flags in them, my teams of dressers knew exactly where to place them. The actors knew exactly how to hold the skirts during the quick pinning to make the process quicker. I had my dressers practice the pinning during dress rehearsals several times to get the timing down to three minutes. ***very impressive - and a great bit of theatrics G Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Clothing Superstitions
Hmmm.. I've touched up a hem while I was wearing it. Maybe I should have spat on it instead G Julie Even worse luck to iron something on a live body, and the thread between the teeth doesn't help there. Not that I tried it myself. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Celebration!
That would be wonderful. The names are interesting, but what color IS Dead Spaniard? Or Goose Turd...? Inquiring minds want to know G Julie -Original Message- A great idea, Penny. Now, just to complicate your life further, have you thought about linking the name of the colour to an actual colour sample eg using the Pantone colour charts? ;-P So that people can see what the colour is, as opposed to being just a name and date/s, albeit some very evocative ( provocative? Dead Spaniard!!!? ) names. http://www.pantone.com/ http://www.colorguides.net/?referrer=Adwords Joannah ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Quilling
I had no idea it was used with anything but ribbon. I've been using this braid as a hat band. Looks great. Julie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh Mi Gosh!!! I had no idea that's what I've been doing all these years. I've been doing this kind of loop braiding with the satin, reversible ribbon (no wider than 1/4 inch) to make trim to do on elizabethan or tudor. You see, there are those vaugue and obscure descriptions in the QEWU inventory, and equally fuzzy pictures that I puzzled about over the years. I decided that one of the trims looked like one of the bits of braiding that we did in camp, where we'd braid the loops just like what's in the picture! Thank you for sharing. Elena -- Original message -- A while back when working on a dress I asked the list about quilling no one seemed to be sure what it was. I later found out thanks to an ancient seamstress. However I thought I'd share this example of quilling in a rug: http://www.missmary.com/articles/01/victorian-crafts-braided-rugs.html ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] German Headdress
There is a German Renn group on Yahoo. They've discussed it there and you could check the files. I forget what the headdress is called. Once they tell you the specific name you should be able to find it. Julie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have always had a fasination for German Ren. clothing, but one detail keeps perplexing me: Would anyone have any idea of how they made these hats/headdress? http://gallery.euroweb.hu/art/c/cranach/lucas_e/6/2cuspin.jpg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] No Subject
I'm interested too...but for Renaissance. We see beautifully decorated hats at Ren Faires, but I don't think I've ever seen big decorated straw hats in pictures - just plain ones. Julie I made my own hat! I took an old hat made out of straw bands and took it appart to make a hat to go with my bustle gown. But I was wondering if the purple ribbon would be to colour coordinated. Schould I put more stuf on it? Like ribbons or flowers? The dress is very simple... ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
