[hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming

2010-01-06 Thread Jason Ruymen
A required update for Team Fortress 2 is on the way. It should be live in about 1 hour. Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming

2010-01-06 Thread Nightbox
Ok... Is it really required or optional ? 2010/1/6 Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.com A required update for Team Fortress 2 is on the way. It should be live in about 1 hour. Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming

2010-01-06 Thread Andrew Leach (luaduck)
I would like to measure my dissatisfaction that TF2 updates are now required (instead of optional) with a boycott of this game On 06/01/2010 20:59, Jason Ruymen wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2 is on the way. It should be live in about 1 hour. Jason

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming

2010-01-06 Thread Nephyrin Zey
... wat On 01/06/2010 03:11 PM, Andrew Leach (luaduck) wrote: I would like to measure my dissatisfaction that TF2 updates are now required (instead of optional) with a boycott of this game On 06/01/2010 20:59, Jason Ruymen wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2 is on the way. It

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming

2010-01-06 Thread Matthew Gottlieb
Updates are always required. Get over it. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Andrew Leach (luaduck) m...@luaduck.co.uk wrote: I would like to measure my dissatisfaction that TF2 updates are now required (instead of optional) with a boycott of this game On 06/01/2010 20:59, Jason Ruymen wrote:

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming

2010-01-06 Thread msleeper
Hey whatever man, more players for the rest of us when he shuts down his server. On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 15:15 -0600, Nephyrin Zey wrote: ... wat On 01/06/2010 03:11 PM, Andrew Leach (luaduck) wrote: I would like to measure my dissatisfaction that TF2 updates are now required (instead of

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming

2010-01-06 Thread Drew LaPour
Thanks for the heads up Jason! On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Andrew Leach (luaduck) m...@luaduck.co.ukwrote: I would like to measure my dissatisfaction that TF2 updates are now required (instead of optional) with a boycott of this game On 06/01/2010 20:59, Jason Ruymen wrote: A required

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming

2010-01-06 Thread Nightbox
7.8 was not required. 2010/1/6 Matthew Gottlieb matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com Updates are always required. Get over it. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Andrew Leach (luaduck) m...@luaduck.co.uk wrote: I would like to measure my dissatisfaction that TF2 updates are now required (instead

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming

2010-01-06 Thread Drew LaPour
psst - Don't feed the troll.. ;-) On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 3:18 PM, msleeper mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.comwrote: Hey whatever man, more players for the rest of us when he shuts down his server. On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 15:15 -0600, Nephyrin Zey wrote: ... wat On 01/06/2010 03:11 PM, Andrew

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming

2010-01-06 Thread msleeper
Seriously, who gives any amount of shit. On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 23:19 +0200, Nightbox wrote: 7.8 was not required. 2010/1/6 Matthew Gottlieb matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com Updates are always required. Get over it. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Andrew Leach (luaduck)

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming

2010-01-06 Thread Ook
Good luck with that. I doubt anyone will miss you or your server, as there are way too many sheep out there that will just put up with it and keep going... - Original Message - From: Andrew Leach (luaduck) m...@luaduck.co.uk To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, January 06,

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming

2010-01-06 Thread arreottp
Oh noes! Valve is making us update our servers so they can't be DoSed or exploited or crashed! The world is ending Seriously, Valve does an absolutely superb job of keeping TF2 up to date. If you are too lazy to update your servers then maybe you shouldn't run them. Or have a TFC server,

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming

2010-01-06 Thread Andrew Leach (luaduck)
I find it great how none of you practice any kind of knowledge of sarcasm / humor. It was a joke On 06/01/2010 21:25, Ook wrote: Good luck with that. I doubt anyone will miss you or your server, as there are way too many sheep out there that will just put up with it and keep going... -

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming

2010-01-06 Thread msleeper
My favorite joke is when people don't spam the list with useless bullshit and funny jokes. Cracks me up every time. On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 21:29 +, Andrew Leach (luaduck) wrote: I find it great how none of you practice any kind of knowledge of sarcasm / humor. It was a joke On

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming

2010-01-06 Thread Phillip Vector
Cracks me up like a honeypot. :) On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:34 PM, msleeper mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com wrote: My favorite joke is when people don't spam the list with useless bullshit and funny jokes. Cracks me up every time. On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 21:29 +, Andrew Leach (luaduck) wrote:

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming

2010-01-06 Thread msleeper
You don't even make sense anymore. On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 13:36 -0800, Phillip Vector wrote: Cracks me up like a honeypot. :) On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:34 PM, msleeper mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com wrote: My favorite joke is when people don't spam the list with useless bullshit and funny

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming

2010-01-06 Thread Tom Grant
AK loves updates! On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Phillip Vector t...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: Cracks me up like a honeypot. :) On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:34 PM, msleeper mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com wrote: My favorite joke is when people don't spam the list with useless bullshit and funny

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming

2010-01-06 Thread Don Williams
We don't care. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 6, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Andrew Leach (luaduck) m...@luaduck.co.uk wrote: I would like to measure my dissatisfaction that TF2 updates are now required (instead of optional) with a boycott of this game On 06/01/2010 20:59, Jason Ruymen wrote: A

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

2010-01-06 Thread Don Williams
Why can't we get a server side class c black list? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 6, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.com wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific change include: Server

[hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

2010-01-06 Thread Jason Ruymen
A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific change include: Server Browser (for TF2 and DoD:S) - Added a client-side server blacklist: - Supports blacklisting of specific servers, all servers on an IP, and all

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

2010-01-06 Thread Rusty Bower
Iptables... Sent from my iPhone On Jan 6, 2010, at 16:43, Don Williams d...@precdata.com wrote: Why can't we get a server side class c black list? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 6, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.com wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

2010-01-06 Thread Don Williams
Thanks.. I already know about that.. But someone posted in the list yesterday looking for this exact thing. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Bower Sent: 2010-01-06 4:50 PM To: Half-Life dedicated

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

2010-01-06 Thread Kyle Sanderson
Thanks for the advanced notification Jason, even if it was an hour it allowed me to plan out an updating schedule :P Now if CS:S was to get updated I would be an even happier camper. Kyle. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Don Williams d...@precdata.com wrote: Thanks.. I already know about that..

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

2010-01-06 Thread voogru
You can't fix something that's perfect. :p Sent via CrackBerry by Magic -Original Message- From: Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:02:17 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing listhlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

2010-01-06 Thread Josh Bost
Tuned scoreboard logic to guard against malicious server operators spoofing bot pings to hide the BOT tag. As a follower of the SPUF I have seen threads about servers with bots with simulated pings, one just yesterday, in-fact. After reading this, the consensus seemed to be that although some

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

2010-01-06 Thread Mike Kurfis
When does the fix to the update come out? On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Josh Bost dislexs...@dislexsick.com wrote: Tuned scoreboard logic to guard against malicious server operators spoofing bot pings to hide the BOT tag. As a follower of the SPUF I have seen threads about servers with

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Coming

2010-01-06 Thread Mike Stiehm
Bye! Andrew Leach (luaduck) m...@luaduck.co.uk wrote: I would like to measure my dissatisfaction that TF2 updates are now required (instead of optional) with a boycott of this game On 06/01/2010 20:59, Jason Ruymen wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2 is on the way. It should be live

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

2010-01-06 Thread Arg!
It appears as though there was a ninja client update for the debug assertion on tab just now. On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Mike Kurfis mkur...@gmail.com wrote: When does the fix to the update come out? On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Josh Bost dislexs...@dislexsick.com wrote: Tuned

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

2010-01-06 Thread Andy C
Bots? Did I miss something? I don't remember anything about bots in TF2. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.comwrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific change include: Changes

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

2010-01-06 Thread Axel Lindmarker
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

2010-01-06 Thread Mike Kurfis
Ah, so no need for a server-side update. Thanks. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Arg! chillic...@gmail.com wrote: It appears as though there was a ninja client update for the debug assertion on tab just now. On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Mike Kurfis mkur...@gmail.com wrote: When does

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

2010-01-06 Thread Arg!
show_htmlpage appears to be a non-existent command on the server, unless im missing how its supposed to work On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Mike Kurfis mkur...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, so no need for a server-side update. Thanks. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Arg! chillic...@gmail.com wrote:

[hlds] [TF2] Server always crashes when update comes out

2010-01-06 Thread In Hyuk Seo
Our server always crashes when steam releases a new update. I checked the log files and I do not see any error messages. These are the server logs right before the crash... Does anyone know why server would crash? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. L 01/06/2010 - 16:42:41: Team Red

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

2010-01-06 Thread 1nsane
It seems to have worked for me on the previous update. show_htmlpage www.google.com Sadly it only brings up the old laggy MOTD html window where whatever you type into an input box is 1 character behind :/. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Arg! chillic...@gmail.com wrote: show_htmlpage appears

Re: [hlds] [TF2] Server always crashes when update comes out

2010-01-06 Thread Drogen Viech
The only thing i see is the server getting shut down by someone using the 'quit' command - it will kick all connected clients automatically - are you sure it isn't one of your plugins doing that? Maybe it's even intended by valve, to keep servers up to date? 2010/1/6 In Hyuk Seo

Re: [hlds] [TF2] Server always crashes when update comes out

2010-01-06 Thread Nephyrin Zey
This log indicates a 'quit' command was executed, all players were kicked, and the server shut down. This doesn't seem like a crash. If you have autoupdate on, or rebooted the server to update it, that would be why it went offline... On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 4:47 PM, In Hyuk Seo

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

2010-01-06 Thread Andy C
The bot issue you are refering to has to do with server admins running fake clients plugins. These report more players in the server than there actually is. Apparently Valve has come up with bots that actually play the game, just like in L4D/L4D2. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Josh Bost

Re: [hlds] [TF2] Server always crashes when update comes out

2010-01-06 Thread In Hyuk Seo
Thank you very much guys. Is there a way to turn off the auto-update? I'm not running a dedicated box. Should I contact the server provider ? Thank you. 2010/1/6 Nephyrin Zey nephy...@doublezen.net This log indicates a 'quit' command was executed, all players were kicked, and the server shut

Re: [hlds] [TF2] Server always crashes when update comes out

2010-01-06 Thread Nephyrin Zey
The server provider probably has your server set to auto update on map change. I dont see why you would want to turn this off, without the newest update players cannot join, so your server will just slowly empty out as players leave to get the patch, and wont get any of the flood of people

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

2010-01-06 Thread Dislexsick
The update states it is people changing the word BOT in the ping column on the scoreboard... This does not address fake player counts, a far more widespread and malicious tactic imo. Cheers, Joshua Bost -Original Message- From: Andy C grossk...@flotgaming.net Sent: Thursday, 7

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

2010-01-06 Thread Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald
The issue with the fake bot pings would probably have become more of an issue now that bots are becoming more available. Malicious server operators could disguise the valve tf2 bots as real players. Combine that with fake players in queries and you have one more problem to deal with. I've seen

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

2010-01-06 Thread Matt Hoffman
There's already http://tf2app.com/blacklist/ which is an active list. I believe it is designed for Peer Guardian/Peer Block/etc, so I second the option to import IP's and not have it be formatted. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: The issue

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

2010-01-06 Thread DontWannaName!
Hey look Voogru, you are on that list too for running 24+ max slots lol :P 24+ max players is part of the game now so that makes little sense... 67.213.213.107voogru.com24+ Max Players On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Matt Hoffman lord.matt.hoff...@gmail.comwrote: There's already

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

2010-01-06 Thread DontWannaName!
Just wondering if anyone else is having any random crashes on Windows, vanilla or with SM/MM. http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=114681 On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:36 PM, DontWannaName! ad...@topnotchclan.comwrote: Hey look Voogru, you are on that list too for running 24+ max slots lol

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

2010-01-06 Thread 1nsane
Well that is just stupid. I'm sure those servers did great with hackers when players couldn't even get their steam ids to do any sort of reporting. Giving the bots a steam id is a far better solution. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: I've