Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
I solved the hat problem too, I just coded my own entity that applies hats to me. Sure, I can only use them on my own servers, but it's not like I play anywhere else anyway. - voogru. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tgnwells Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 12:35 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons i just want a hat :( On 9/8/2009 8:13 PM, Matthew Gottlieb wrote: ople are so pissed off about this. It's their game, let them have th ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
The reason people are angry over this is because valve employees are joining servers not hosted by valve, but hosted by the community. These communities pay for the servers and valve ruining the experience for everyone on the server by having uber weapons. If valve was doing this on their own public/private server most people would not be very angry. On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 4:43 AM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: I solved the hat problem too, I just coded my own entity that applies hats to me. Sure, I can only use them on my own servers, but it's not like I play anywhere else anyway. - voogru. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tgnwells Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 12:35 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons i just want a hat :( On 9/8/2009 8:13 PM, Matthew Gottlieb wrote: ople are so pissed off about this. It's their game, let them have th ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
I agree - however, since this has since been addressed by Robin, what's the problem now? We should be productive and all I've seen so far are (some hostile) rants - if someone still has a bone to pick with Valve, state what you expect to be done about it instead of just complaining. What's done is done. There is no reason to keep beating a dead horse (that I'm aware of). On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:11 AM, gulfy32 gulf...@gmail.com wrote: The reason people are angry over this is because valve employees are joining servers not hosted by valve, but hosted by the community. These communities pay for the servers and valve ruining the experience for everyone on the server by having uber weapons. If valve was doing this on their own public/private server most people would not be very angry. On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 4:43 AM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: I solved the hat problem too, I just coded my own entity that applies hats to me. Sure, I can only use them on my own servers, but it's not like I play anywhere else anyway. - voogru. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tgnwells Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 12:35 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons i just want a hat :( On 9/8/2009 8:13 PM, Matthew Gottlieb wrote: ople are so pissed off about this. It's their game, let them have th ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- -Mark ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
++ People need to stop getting their panties in a knot. It's been addressed. It happened for at most a few hours during that ONE day. Give it up already. I'm sure there are more important things to bitch about...move along. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 9:21 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons I agree - however, since this has since been addressed by Robin, what's the problem now? We should be productive and all I've seen so far are (some hostile) rants - if someone still has a bone to pick with Valve, state what you expect to be done about it instead of just complaining. What's done is done. There is no reason to keep beating a dead horse (that I'm aware of). On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:11 AM, gulfy32 gulf...@gmail.com wrote: The reason people are angry over this is because valve employees are joining servers not hosted by valve, but hosted by the community. These communities pay for the servers and valve ruining the experience for everyone on the server by having uber weapons. If valve was doing this on their own public/private server most people would not be very angry. On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 4:43 AM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: I solved the hat problem too, I just coded my own entity that applies hats to me. Sure, I can only use them on my own servers, but it's not like I play anywhere else anyway. - voogru. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tgnwells Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 12:35 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons i just want a hat :( On 9/8/2009 8:13 PM, Matthew Gottlieb wrote: ople are so pissed off about this. It's their game, let them have th ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- -Mark ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.86/2355 - Release Date: 09/09/09 06:53:00 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
Same here... we;re running the equipment manager plugin by Damizean to allow all hats (even halos, you dirty idlers) one one of our servers now for testing, so no more drama. I'm sure we'll be running the plugin on all 7 of our servers soon. Whats the rewards for getting a hat at random? May as well give them to eveyone. -[!?]MONDO / http://www.teaminterrobang.com On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 5:43 AM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: I solved the hat problem too, I just coded my own entity that applies hats to me. Sure, I can only use them on my own servers, but it's not like I play anywhere else anyway. - voogru. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tgnwells Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 12:35 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons i just want a hat :( On 9/8/2009 8:13 PM, Matthew Gottlieb wrote: ople are so pissed off about this. It's their game, let them have th ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
Whats the rewards for getting a hat at random? The same reason MMOs and the lottery are so popular. A feeling of superiority. Everyone likes that feeling :) -Mike On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:31 AM, MONDO mondo...@gmail.com wrote: Same here... we;re running the equipment manager plugin by Damizean to allow all hats (even halos, you dirty idlers) one one of our servers now for testing, so no more drama. I'm sure we'll be running the plugin on all 7 of our servers soon. Whats the rewards for getting a hat at random? May as well give them to eveyone. -[!?]MONDO / http://www.teaminterrobang.com On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 5:43 AM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: I solved the hat problem too, I just coded my own entity that applies hats to me. Sure, I can only use them on my own servers, but it's not like I play anywhere else anyway. - voogru. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tgnwells Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 12:35 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons i just want a hat :( On 9/8/2009 8:13 PM, Matthew Gottlieb wrote: ople are so pissed off about this. It's their game, let them have th ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
The problem with your analogy is that MMOs generally have an attainable goal you can actually work towards and a sense of achievement or satisfaction once you finally get that rare item that no one else has. That's rewarding. Not so with TF2. What sense of achievement or satisfaction do you get from RANDOMLY gaining a hat? You might even get a hat you think looks stupid, or one for a class that you absolutely despise playing, which is an even bigger kick to the manhood than not getting a hat at all! You just expended your hat luck for the next random amount of time. As for the lottery, in most cases you are helping to fund something, i.e an education lottery, and that's rewarding in its own sense for a lot of people. You have to actually DO something, in these cases, to gain the rights to feel superior. Therefore I inquire, how are you superior because you played the game the same way as everyone else, but you just got lucky and rolled hat on the dice? On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Mike Zimmermann rem...@gmail.com wrote: Whats the rewards for getting a hat at random? The same reason MMOs and the lottery are so popular. A feeling of superiority. Everyone likes that feeling :) -Mike On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:31 AM, MONDO mondo...@gmail.com wrote: Same here... we;re running the equipment manager plugin by Damizean to allow all hats (even halos, you dirty idlers) one one of our servers now for testing, so no more drama. I'm sure we'll be running the plugin on all 7 of our servers soon. Whats the rewards for getting a hat at random? May as well give them to eveyone. -[!?]MONDO / http://www.teaminterrobang.com On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 5:43 AM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: I solved the hat problem too, I just coded my own entity that applies hats to me. Sure, I can only use them on my own servers, but it's not like I play anywhere else anyway. - voogru. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tgnwells Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 12:35 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons i just want a hat :( On 9/8/2009 8:13 PM, Matthew Gottlieb wrote: ople are so pissed off about this. It's their game, let them have th ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Devgru Seal - IT/Tech PC Geek - » June 1st: HL2:Episode 1 Release! « » October 9th, 2007: The Orange Box Release! « http://ecsa-clan.com - Team #ECSA ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
Therefore I inquire, how are you superior because you played the game the same way as everyone else, but you just got lucky and rolled hat on the dice? You aren't. No one is any better than any other person because they got an item. However, they sure feel like it when they see that message pop up on the server. It's a good feeling, a sense of accomplishment, even if you didn't really accomplish anything (other than getting lucky). Also, I don't know what type of lotteries you have, but here they are nearly all for profit and are completely black and white win/lose. In sense of MMOs, getting items in TF2 is *a lot* like most things in MMOs. Have you ever even played World of Warcraft or other popular MMOs? A lot of the super rare items are gained only by being incredibly lucky with no required skill at all. The only skill needed is to log on daily and do easy, available to everyone activities (sounds really familiar to TF2's system, hmmm). Finally, I have no idea where you are taking this. Is it your hobby to disagree with people or something? -Mike On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 1:48 PM, George Devgru Seal devgrus...@gmail.com wrote: The problem with your analogy is that MMOs generally have an attainable goal you can actually work towards and a sense of achievement or satisfaction once you finally get that rare item that no one else has. That's rewarding. Not so with TF2. What sense of achievement or satisfaction do you get from RANDOMLY gaining a hat? You might even get a hat you think looks stupid, or one for a class that you absolutely despise playing, which is an even bigger kick to the manhood than not getting a hat at all! You just expended your hat luck for the next random amount of time. As for the lottery, in most cases you are helping to fund something, i.e an education lottery, and that's rewarding in its own sense for a lot of people. You have to actually DO something, in these cases, to gain the rights to feel superior. Therefore I inquire, how are you superior because you played the game the same way as everyone else, but you just got lucky and rolled hat on the dice? On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Mike Zimmermann rem...@gmail.com wrote: Whats the rewards for getting a hat at random? The same reason MMOs and the lottery are so popular. A feeling of superiority. Everyone likes that feeling :) -Mike On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:31 AM, MONDO mondo...@gmail.com wrote: Same here... we;re running the equipment manager plugin by Damizean to allow all hats (even halos, you dirty idlers) one one of our servers now for testing, so no more drama. I'm sure we'll be running the plugin on all 7 of our servers soon. Whats the rewards for getting a hat at random? May as well give them to eveyone. -[!?]MONDO / http://www.teaminterrobang.com On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 5:43 AM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: I solved the hat problem too, I just coded my own entity that applies hats to me. Sure, I can only use them on my own servers, but it's not like I play anywhere else anyway. - voogru. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tgnwells Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 12:35 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons i just want a hat :( On 9/8/2009 8:13 PM, Matthew Gottlieb wrote: ople are so pissed off about this. It's their game, let them have th ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Devgru Seal - IT/Tech PC Geek - » June 1st: HL2:Episode 1 Release! « » October 9th, 2007: The Orange Box Release! « http://ecsa-clan.com - Team #ECSA ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
I agree completely. Valve Employees - Feel free to turn your special weapons on and come over and play at F7, we'll be glad to have you and your hilarious and elite Valve Weapons. Give me your SteamID before you join and I'll throw in a reserved slot too, you guys are more than welcome to come and mix things up any time. On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 22:13 -0500, Matthew Gottlieb wrote: If you hate Valve so much, you can ban all the Valve Steam IDs. Or even better, uninstall the game and delete your server. I seriously have no idea why people are so pissed off about this. It's their game, let them have their fun. Are you telling me you've NEVER abused your powers on your server? Slapped someone for fun? Given yourself health? No clip? Teleported a Medic closer? Let them have their fun and get over it. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Markbigb...@gmail.com wrote: Less QQ, more PEW! PEW! On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Mike Zimmermannrem...@gmail.com wrote: This thread is just cry river. -Mike On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Alec Sangereclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: I certainly don't mind the getting the hats for free, since they give absolutely no advantage over others. The overpowered weapons, however, gave them a huge advantage, which was why I had an issue with it. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: kyle.l...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:57:11 -0700 To: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Says the guy who wrote the Sourcemod plugin to ban achievement farmers and even setup servers to ban people in when they received one achievement. I assume you did that because you absolutely agree'd with people getting achievements legitimately? Nothing serious going on there now Msleeper... How is this any different? I have no issue with employee's receiving Hats, although everyone in achievement_idle maps right now, and the over 100,000 people who were idling for hats/dupe unlocks using that external idler may. Current people in achievement_idle servers: http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=achievement_idletype=mappublic=pg=1then you can use the steam browser to find the ones that were not submitted to game-monitor.com. You have balls sir, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:32 PM, msleeper mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.comwrote: God forbid the game developers want to have a little fun with the game they developed. I think you really need to chill out and quit taking the whole hat thing so seriously. The devs gave themselves hats and unique weapons. So what. It's their game. On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 17:17 -0700, Kyle Sanderson wrote: We as customers bought the game, as the person who made this email found out pretty fast valve employees are running around servers using these items that give themselves one hell of an advantage over the regular player. There is no need to be sarcastic in here Michael, I was upset at the fact that they all had circumvented the regular way of getting items (just playing the game). Instead *some* not all of their employees which has been made clear to myself in here had some uber'd version of a regular gun, and which ever hat they wanted. To me as a paying customer that is does no sit right at all set right in my mind. The employee's already have enough perks by being able to beta test games and or get games for free. They should not be destroying the game for paying customers just because they were hired (again this is no longer true, but whatever), or by being able to circumvent the shoddy item giving system and give themselves which ever items they please. Now tell me, which one of you has managed to get 8hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561198001709917? 9hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622? 19hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971292977? 21hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654? 24hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971049296? 26hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654? 27hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960265731? the list really goes on so I'll spare everyone the trouble, I didn't bother looking at all 159 profiles but if someone wants to... all the power to you. I know I'm probably the only one against this, but that's just me. Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Michael Krasnow mnk...@mnkras.com wrote: We are complaining about VALVe and the crappy weapons they made for themselves while saying that its unfair that they have an advantage over us normal people even though valve can do whatever they want as well... THEY MADE THE GAME
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Valve automatically gets a limited slot on my server (they are invulnerable to the high priority slot kicker). So if they get on, they won't get kicked off. Valve employees have spent, all together about 40 hours or so on my servers since the release of TF2. One poor soul connected to my Dodgeball server and didn't stick around long, about 2 minutes. WTF ROCKETS RAINING DOWN FROM THE SKY? One employee connected with the name VACMinistrator. I lolled. - voogru. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 3:33 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons I agree completely. Valve Employees - Feel free to turn your special weapons on and come over and play at F7, we'll be glad to have you and your hilarious and elite Valve Weapons. Give me your SteamID before you join and I'll throw in a reserved slot too, you guys are more than welcome to come and mix things up any time. On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 22:13 -0500, Matthew Gottlieb wrote: If you hate Valve so much, you can ban all the Valve Steam IDs. Or even better, uninstall the game and delete your server. I seriously have no idea why people are so pissed off about this. It's their game, let them have their fun. Are you telling me you've NEVER abused your powers on your server? Slapped someone for fun? Given yourself health? No clip? Teleported a Medic closer? Let them have their fun and get over it. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Markbigb...@gmail.com wrote: Less QQ, more PEW! PEW! On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Mike Zimmermannrem...@gmail.com wrote: This thread is just cry river. -Mike On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Alec Sangereclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: I certainly don't mind the getting the hats for free, since they give absolutely no advantage over others. The overpowered weapons, however, gave them a huge advantage, which was why I had an issue with it. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: kyle.l...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:57:11 -0700 To: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Says the guy who wrote the Sourcemod plugin to ban achievement farmers and even setup servers to ban people in when they received one achievement. I assume you did that because you absolutely agree'd with people getting achievements legitimately? Nothing serious going on there now Msleeper... How is this any different? I have no issue with employee's receiving Hats, although everyone in achievement_idle maps right now, and the over 100,000 people who were idling for hats/dupe unlocks using that external idler may. Current people in achievement_idle servers: http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=achievement_idletype=mappublic=pg=1then you can use the steam browser to find the ones that were not submitted to game-monitor.com. You have balls sir, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:32 PM, msleeper mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.comwrote: God forbid the game developers want to have a little fun with the game they developed. I think you really need to chill out and quit taking the whole hat thing so seriously. The devs gave themselves hats and unique weapons. So what. It's their game. On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 17:17 -0700, Kyle Sanderson wrote: We as customers bought the game, as the person who made this email found out pretty fast valve employees are running around servers using these items that give themselves one hell of an advantage over the regular player. There is no need to be sarcastic in here Michael, I was upset at the fact that they all had circumvented the regular way of getting items (just playing the game). Instead *some* not all of their employees which has been made clear to myself in here had some uber'd version of a regular gun, and which ever hat they wanted. To me as a paying customer that is does no sit right at all set right in my mind. The employee's already have enough perks by being able to beta test games and or get games for free. They should not be destroying the game for paying customers just because they were hired (again this is no longer true, but whatever), or by being able to circumvent the shoddy item giving system and give themselves which ever items they please. Now tell me, which one of you has managed to get 8hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561198001709917? 9hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622? 19hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971292977? 21hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654? 24hatshttp
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Exactly, msleeper! Much how I feel about this. People whine too much and take this game too seriously. Consider it an honor to have a Valve player join your server. It's not like they would have stayed for hours with their overpowered weapon or dropped by your server every day. Try accepting a bit of a mix up here and there. On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:32 PM, msleeper mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.comwrote: I agree completely. Valve Employees - Feel free to turn your special weapons on and come over and play at F7, we'll be glad to have you and your hilarious and elite Valve Weapons. Give me your SteamID before you join and I'll throw in a reserved slot too, you guys are more than welcome to come and mix things up any time. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 Valve Syringe Gun (equipped) +15% Damage Done +150% Clip Size +15% Firing Speed On Hit: +15 Health 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players +50 Max Health on Wearer On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target Fire Retardant (1) Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) Speed Boost When Active (1.15) Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee coming in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I might as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
Never had it happen yet. But on a side note why are you giving out your phone and fax number. LOL Alec Sanger wrote: Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 Valve Syringe Gun (equipped) +15% Damage Done +150% Clip Size +15% Firing Speed On Hit: +15 Health 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players +50 Max Health on Wearer On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target Fire Retardant (1) Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) Speed Boost When Active (1.15) Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee coming in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I might as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
Valve list is on my normal email - the numbers are in my signature. If anyone wants to call/fax me, feel free :) Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 06:36:08 -0400 From: violentcri...@convictgaming.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Never had it happen yet. But on a side note why are you giving out your phone and fax number. LOL Alec Sanger wrote: Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 Valve Syringe Gun (equipped) +15% Damage Done +150% Clip Size +15% Firing Speed On Hit: +15 Health 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players +50 Max Health on Wearer On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target Fire Retardant (1) Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) Speed Boost When Active (1.15) Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee coming in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I might as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
I know that it is Valves game but it seems ironic that in one hand they are banning people for not getting items by playing (ie: the idler) and on the other hand are giving themselves items in a way which is morally WORSE than using cheats to gain items. If I saw someone using these Special items on our server then I would probably ban them for cheating ;D -TheGeekLord Alec Sanger wrote: Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 Valve Syringe Gun (equipped) +15% Damage Done +150% Clip Size +15% Firing Speed On Hit: +15 Health 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players +50 Max Health on Wearer On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target Fire Retardant (1) Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) Speed Boost When Active (1.15) Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee coming in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I might as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
Someone could write a SM plugin to make the 'Valve' weapons into the normal versions I guess. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:55 AM, TheGeekLord li...@thegeeklord.net wrote: I know that it is Valves game but it seems ironic that in one hand they are banning people for not getting items by playing (ie: the idler) and on the other hand are giving themselves items in a way which is morally WORSE than using cheats to gain items. If I saw someone using these Special items on our server then I would probably ban them for cheating ;D -TheGeekLord Alec Sanger wrote: Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 Valve Syringe Gun (equipped) +15% Damage Done +150% Clip Size +15% Firing Speed On Hit: +15 Health 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players +50 Max Health on Wearer On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target Fire Retardant (1) Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) Speed Boost When Active (1.15) Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee coming in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I might as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
Though what happens if you ban a valve employee does space and time rip a bit? Neil Voutt - Admin http://www.neilvoutt.com http://www.ipoststupidshit.com Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2009, at 7:59 AM, Jeff Sugar jeffsu...@gmail.com wrote: Someone could write a SM plugin to make the 'Valve' weapons into the normal versions I guess. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:55 AM, TheGeekLord li...@thegeeklord.net wrote: I know that it is Valves game but it seems ironic that in one hand they are banning people for not getting items by playing (ie: the idler) and on the other hand are giving themselves items in a way which is morally WORSE than using cheats to gain items. If I saw someone using these Special items on our server then I would probably ban them for cheating ;D -TheGeekLord Alec Sanger wrote: Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 Valve Syringe Gun (equipped) +15% Damage Done +150% Clip Size +15% Firing Speed On Hit: +15 Health 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players +50 Max Health on Wearer On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target Fire Retardant (1) Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) Speed Boost When Active (1.15) Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee coming in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I might as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
I can see it now... Server: Your 'Valve Flamethrower' has been replaced with a normal Flamethrower Valve: DELIST, DELIST, DELIST ^^ Jeff Sugar wrote: Someone could write a SM plugin to make the 'Valve' weapons into the normal versions I guess. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:55 AM, TheGeekLord li...@thegeeklord.net wrote: I know that it is Valves game but it seems ironic that in one hand they are banning people for not getting items by playing (ie: the idler) and on the other hand are giving themselves items in a way which is morally WORSE than using cheats to gain items. If I saw someone using these Special items on our server then I would probably ban them for cheating ;D -TheGeekLord Alec Sanger wrote: Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 Valve Syringe Gun (equipped) +15% Damage Done +150% Clip Size +15% Firing Speed On Hit: +15 Health 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players +50 Max Health on Wearer On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target Fire Retardant (1) Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) Speed Boost When Active (1.15) Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee coming in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I might as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
Here is Valve Steam Group have at it. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Valve LOL Nicholas Hastings wrote: I can see it now... Server: Your 'Valve Flamethrower' has been replaced with a normal Flamethrower Valve: DELIST, DELIST, DELIST ^^ Jeff Sugar wrote: Someone could write a SM plugin to make the 'Valve' weapons into the normal versions I guess. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:55 AM, TheGeekLord li...@thegeeklord.net wrote: I know that it is Valves game but it seems ironic that in one hand they are banning people for not getting items by playing (ie: the idler) and on the other hand are giving themselves items in a way which is morally WORSE than using cheats to gain items. If I saw someone using these Special items on our server then I would probably ban them for cheating ;D -TheGeekLord Alec Sanger wrote: Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 Valve Syringe Gun (equipped) +15% Damage Done +150% Clip Size +15% Firing Speed On Hit: +15 Health 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players +50 Max Health on Wearer On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target Fire Retardant (1) Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) Speed Boost When Active (1.15) Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee coming in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I might as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So it was probably a TF2 dev, yeah. On 9/8/2009 3:30 AM, Alec Sanger wrote: Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 Valve Syringe Gun (equipped) +15% Damage Done +150% Clip Size +15% Firing Speed On Hit: +15 Health 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players +50 Max Health on Wearer On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target Fire Retardant (1) Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) Speed Boost When Active (1.15) Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee coming in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I might as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
I like the way you think! is there someway to increase the player limit to over 34 to like 50 just for spectator On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:55 AM, tgnwells tgnwe...@gmail.com wrote: Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So it was probably a TF2 dev, yeah. On 9/8/2009 3:30 AM, Alec Sanger wrote: Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 Valve Syringe Gun (equipped) +15% Damage Done +150% Clip Size +15% Firing Speed On Hit: +15 Health 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players +50 Max Health on Wearer On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target Fire Retardant (1) Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) Speed Boost When Active (1.15) Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee coming in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I might as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960435530 Enjoy On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Michael Krasnowmnk...@mnkras.com wrote: I like the way you think! is there someway to increase the player limit to over 34 to like 50 just for spectator On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:55 AM, tgnwells tgnwe...@gmail.com wrote: Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So it was probably a TF2 dev, yeah. On 9/8/2009 3:30 AM, Alec Sanger wrote: Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 Valve Syringe Gun (equipped) +15% Damage Done +150% Clip Size +15% Firing Speed On Hit: +15 Health 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players +50 Max Health on Wearer On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target Fire Retardant (1) Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) Speed Boost When Active (1.15) Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee coming in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I might as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
Ya, I know. I was cheeking it :)
-Original Message-
From: bl4nk [mailto:bl4n...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 12:33 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
enum TFItemQuality
{
ITEM_QUALITY_NORMAL = 0,
ITEM_QUALITY_RARITY_1,
ITEM_QUALITY_RARITY_2,
ITEM_QUALITY_UNIQUE,
ITEM_QUALITY_RARITY3,
ITEM_QUALITY_RARITY4,
ITEM_QUALITY_RARITY5,
ITEM_QUALITY_COMMUNITY,
ITEM_QUALITY_VALVE,
ITEM_QUALITY_MAX
};
Keeper wrote:
error C2065: 'QUALITY_VALVE' : undeclared identifier
LOL
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Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
People people people,
There are much more elegant ways to deal with this than banning valve.
if(pWeapon-GetItemQuality() == ITEM_QUALITY_VALVE) {
pWeapon-AddAttribute(damage penalty, 0.0, true); //-100% damage
penalty.
}
Fixed.
Harmless as a butterfly.
-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Michael Krasnow
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 10:20 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
I like the way you think! is there someway to increase the player limit to
over 34 to like 50 just for spectator
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:55 AM, tgnwells tgnwe...@gmail.com wrote:
Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So it was probably
a TF2 dev, yeah.
On 9/8/2009 3:30 AM, Alec Sanger wrote:
Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special
weapons?
We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the
players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it
was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun
http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654
Valve Syringe Gun
(equipped)
+15% Damage Done
+150% Clip Size
+15% Firing Speed
On Hit: +15 Health
100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players
+50 Max Health on Wearer
On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance
On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target
Fire Retardant (1)
Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85)
Speed Boost When Active (1.15)
Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee coming
in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I might
as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen.
Thank you,
Alec Sanger
P: 248.941.3813
F: 313.286.8945
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Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
anyone want to compile this?
Thank you,
Alec Sanger
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F: 313.286.8945
From: voo...@voogru.com
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:06:11 -0400
Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
People people people,
There are much more elegant ways to deal with this than banning valve.
if(pWeapon-GetItemQuality() == ITEM_QUALITY_VALVE) {
pWeapon-AddAttribute(damage penalty, 0.0, true); //-100% damage
penalty.
}
Fixed.
Harmless as a butterfly.
-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Michael Krasnow
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 10:20 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
I like the way you think! is there someway to increase the player limit to
over 34 to like 50 just for spectator
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:55 AM, tgnwells tgnwe...@gmail.com wrote:
Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So it was probably
a TF2 dev, yeah.
On 9/8/2009 3:30 AM, Alec Sanger wrote:
Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special
weapons?
We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the
players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it
was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun
http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654
Valve Syringe Gun
(equipped)
+15% Damage Done
+150% Clip Size
+15% Firing Speed
On Hit: +15 Health
100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players
+50 Max Health on Wearer
On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance
On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target
Fire Retardant (1)
Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85)
Speed Boost When Active (1.15)
Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee coming
in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I might
as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen.
Thank you,
Alec Sanger
P: 248.941.3813
F: 313.286.8945
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Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
1. Reverse engineer item attribute system.
2. ???
3. Profit!
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[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Alec Sanger
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 12:11 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
anyone want to compile this?
Thank you,
Alec Sanger
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From: voo...@voogru.com
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:06:11 -0400
Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
People people people,
There are much more elegant ways to deal with this than banning valve.
if(pWeapon-GetItemQuality() == ITEM_QUALITY_VALVE) {
pWeapon-AddAttribute(damage penalty, 0.0, true); //-100% damage
penalty.
}
Fixed.
Harmless as a butterfly.
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From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Michael Krasnow
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 10:20 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
I like the way you think! is there someway to increase the player limit to
over 34 to like 50 just for spectator
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:55 AM, tgnwells tgnwe...@gmail.com wrote:
Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So it was probably
a TF2 dev, yeah.
On 9/8/2009 3:30 AM, Alec Sanger wrote:
Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special
weapons?
We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the
players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection,
it
was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun
http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654
Valve Syringe Gun
(equipped)
+15% Damage Done
+150% Clip Size
+15% Firing Speed
On Hit: +15 Health
100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players
+50 Max Health on Wearer
On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance
On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target
Fire Retardant (1)
Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85)
Speed Boost When Active (1.15)
Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee
coming
in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I
might
as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen.
Thank you,
Alec Sanger
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Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
error C2065: 'QUALITY_VALVE' : undeclared identifier
LOL
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From: Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald [mailto:voo...@voogru.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 12:06 PM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
People people people,
There are much more elegant ways to deal with this than banning valve.
if(pWeapon-GetItemQuality() == ITEM_QUALITY_VALVE) {
pWeapon-AddAttribute(damage penalty, 0.0, true); //-100% damage
penalty.
}
Fixed.
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All of the Valve weapons lost their special attributes, now they are just unique Valve Weapons and probably have some sort of visual effect like the Community Weapons did. Chill out, bro. On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 13:29 -0700, Kyle Sanderson wrote: http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960435530 Really now? Maybe Robin should check his own backpack. Do some research about it Phillip and check what they're talking about/ actually doing. I'm sorry for being so damn cruel about it but come on, look! Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Phillip Vector t...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: Did you even read what they quoted? They weren't supposto have them and now that Robin knows about it, he's taking them away. I'd say that was a pretty resonable response to it. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Kyle Sandersonkyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: This is quite ironic, almost every VALVe employee has the special VALVe guns (100% Crit, 15% speed, health, etc.) however they shitlist 5% of the community for running an external idler. Sounds like quite the plan I would like to see what you guys come up with next, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks for the update, robin! Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: ro...@valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:32:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Hi All. Our original usage of these was a couple of weeks ago, and lasted a day. It was mostly around testing the item system (they contain every positive attribute in the system). After that, we converted all the Valve weapons to be purely cosmetic. Unfortunately, unknown to us on the dev side, some of the non-TF2-team folks at Valve didn't get the memo, and gave themselves the broken items recently. We're removing these from everyone today, and removing the ability for folks to give these kinds of weapons to themselves in the future. Shouldn't happen again. (And if it somehow does, feel free to drop me an email at ro...@valvesoftware.com and let me know) Robin. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tgnwells Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:55 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So it was probably a TF2 dev, yeah. On 9/8/2009 3:30 AM, Alec Sanger wrote: Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 Valve Syringe Gun (equipped) +15% Damage Done +150% Clip Size +15% Firing Speed On Hit: +15 Health 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players +50 Max Health on Wearer On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target Fire Retardant (1) Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) Speed Boost When Active (1.15) Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee coming in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I might as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo
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The items that gave the special abilities actually had them listed - the one's that just say Special Attributes are the purely aesthetic ones that Robin was speaking of. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: kyle.l...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:29:03 -0700 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960435530 Really now? Maybe Robin should check his own backpack. Do some research about it Phillip and check what they're talking about/ actually doing. I'm sorry for being so damn cruel about it but come on, look! Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Phillip Vector t...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: Did you even read what they quoted? They weren't supposto have them and now that Robin knows about it, he's taking them away. I'd say that was a pretty resonable response to it. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Kyle Sandersonkyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: This is quite ironic, almost every VALVe employee has the special VALVe guns (100% Crit, 15% speed, health, etc.) however they shitlist 5% of the community for running an external idler. Sounds like quite the plan I would like to see what you guys come up with next, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks for the update, robin! Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: ro...@valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:32:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Hi All. Our original usage of these was a couple of weeks ago, and lasted a day. It was mostly around testing the item system (they contain every positive attribute in the system). After that, we converted all the Valve weapons to be purely cosmetic. Unfortunately, unknown to us on the dev side, some of the non-TF2-team folks at Valve didn't get the memo, and gave themselves the broken items recently. We're removing these from everyone today, and removing the ability for folks to give these kinds of weapons to themselves in the future. Shouldn't happen again. (And if it somehow does, feel free to drop me an email at ro...@valvesoftware.com and let me know) Robin. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tgnwells Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:55 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So it was probably a TF2 dev, yeah. On 9/8/2009 3:30 AM, Alec Sanger wrote: Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 Valve Syringe Gun (equipped) +15% Damage Done +150% Clip Size +15% Firing Speed On Hit: +15 Health 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players +50 Max Health on Wearer On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target Fire Retardant (1) Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) Speed Boost When Active (1.15) Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee coming in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I might as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery
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I trust there was much uttering of the phrase And this is why we can't have nice things around the office. Shawn P. Zipay Site Director Total Gaming Network -- http://www.totalgamingnetwork.com MyInternetServices -- http://www.myinternetservices.com CS-Nation -- http://www.csnation.net On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Phillip Vector t...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: Did you even read what they quoted? They weren't supposto have them and now that Robin knows about it, he's taking them away. I'd say that was a pretty resonable response to it. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Kyle Sandersonkyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: This is quite ironic, almost every VALVe employee has the special VALVe guns (100% Crit, 15% speed, health, etc.) however they shitlist 5% of the community for running an external idler. Sounds like quite the plan I would like to see what you guys come up with next, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks for the update, robin! Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: ro...@valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:32:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Hi All. Our original usage of these was a couple of weeks ago, and lasted a day. It was mostly around testing the item system (they contain every positive attribute in the system). After that, we converted all the Valve weapons to be purely cosmetic. Unfortunately, unknown to us on the dev side, some of the non-TF2-team folks at Valve didn't get the memo, and gave themselves the broken items recently. We're removing these from everyone today, and removing the ability for folks to give these kinds of weapons to themselves in the future. Shouldn't happen again. (And if it somehow does, feel free to drop me an email at ro...@valvesoftware.com and let me know) Robin. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tgnwells Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:55 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So it was probably a TF2 dev, yeah. On 9/8/2009 3:30 AM, Alec Sanger wrote: Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 Valve Syringe Gun (equipped) +15% Damage Done +150% Clip Size +15% Firing Speed On Hit: +15 Health 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players +50 Max Health on Wearer On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target Fire Retardant (1) Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) Speed Boost When Active (1.15) Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee coming in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I might as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
*sigh* Last I heard, Robin was part of the TF2 Team. This is quite ironic, almost every VALVe employee has the special VALVe guns (100% Crit, 15% speed, health, etc.) however they shitlist 5% of the community for running an external idler. No. Not almost EVERY VALVE EMPLOYEE will have it in the future. Yes, the TF2 guys have them and until now, every employee pretty much had them. But Robin said he would remove them from people who aren't supposto have them (Non-TF2 Team Members). Now, if you want to complain that the TF2 people have these weapons and are coming into pub servers and causing them to empty in the future, I will listen. Otherwise, you may want to restate your position. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Kyle Sandersonkyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960435530 Really now? Maybe Robin should check his own backpack. Do some research about it Phillip and check what they're talking about/ actually doing. I'm sorry for being so damn cruel about it but come on, look! Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Phillip Vector t...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: Did you even read what they quoted? They weren't supposto have them and now that Robin knows about it, he's taking them away. I'd say that was a pretty resonable response to it. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Kyle Sandersonkyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: This is quite ironic, almost every VALVe employee has the special VALVe guns (100% Crit, 15% speed, health, etc.) however they shitlist 5% of the community for running an external idler. Sounds like quite the plan I would like to see what you guys come up with next, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks for the update, robin! Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: ro...@valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:32:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Hi All. Our original usage of these was a couple of weeks ago, and lasted a day. It was mostly around testing the item system (they contain every positive attribute in the system). After that, we converted all the Valve weapons to be purely cosmetic. Unfortunately, unknown to us on the dev side, some of the non-TF2-team folks at Valve didn't get the memo, and gave themselves the broken items recently. We're removing these from everyone today, and removing the ability for folks to give these kinds of weapons to themselves in the future. Shouldn't happen again. (And if it somehow does, feel free to drop me an email at ro...@valvesoftware.com and let me know) Robin. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tgnwells Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:55 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So it was probably a TF2 dev, yeah. On 9/8/2009 3:30 AM, Alec Sanger wrote: Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 Valve Syringe Gun (equipped) +15% Damage Done +150% Clip Size +15% Firing Speed On Hit: +15 Health 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players +50 Max Health on Wearer On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target Fire Retardant (1) Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) Speed Boost When Active (1.15) Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee coming in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I might as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman
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http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960435530 Really now? Maybe Robin should check his own backpack. Do some research about it Phillip and check what they're talking about/ actually doing. I'm sorry for being so damn cruel about it but come on, look! Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Phillip Vector t...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: Did you even read what they quoted? They weren't supposto have them and now that Robin knows about it, he's taking them away. I'd say that was a pretty resonable response to it. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Kyle Sandersonkyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: This is quite ironic, almost every VALVe employee has the special VALVe guns (100% Crit, 15% speed, health, etc.) however they shitlist 5% of the community for running an external idler. Sounds like quite the plan I would like to see what you guys come up with next, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks for the update, robin! Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: ro...@valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:32:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Hi All. Our original usage of these was a couple of weeks ago, and lasted a day. It was mostly around testing the item system (they contain every positive attribute in the system). After that, we converted all the Valve weapons to be purely cosmetic. Unfortunately, unknown to us on the dev side, some of the non-TF2-team folks at Valve didn't get the memo, and gave themselves the broken items recently. We're removing these from everyone today, and removing the ability for folks to give these kinds of weapons to themselves in the future. Shouldn't happen again. (And if it somehow does, feel free to drop me an email at ro...@valvesoftware.com and let me know) Robin. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tgnwells Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:55 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So it was probably a TF2 dev, yeah. On 9/8/2009 3:30 AM, Alec Sanger wrote: Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 Valve Syringe Gun (equipped) +15% Damage Done +150% Clip Size +15% Firing Speed On Hit: +15 Health 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players +50 Max Health on Wearer On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target Fire Retardant (1) Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) Speed Boost When Active (1.15) Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee coming in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I might as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo
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Hi All. Our original usage of these was a couple of weeks ago, and lasted a day. It was mostly around testing the item system (they contain every positive attribute in the system). After that, we converted all the Valve weapons to be purely cosmetic. Unfortunately, unknown to us on the dev side, some of the non-TF2-team folks at Valve didn't get the memo, and gave themselves the broken items recently. We're removing these from everyone today, and removing the ability for folks to give these kinds of weapons to themselves in the future. Shouldn't happen again. (And if it somehow does, feel free to drop me an email at ro...@valvesoftware.com and let me know) Robin. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tgnwells Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:55 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So it was probably a TF2 dev, yeah. On 9/8/2009 3:30 AM, Alec Sanger wrote: Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 Valve Syringe Gun (equipped) +15% Damage Done +150% Clip Size +15% Firing Speed On Hit: +15 Health 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players +50 Max Health on Wearer On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target Fire Retardant (1) Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) Speed Boost When Active (1.15) Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee coming in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I might as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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I did my research and there are no positive attributes on his Valve weapons anymore. What are we complaining about? -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 1:29 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960435530 Really now? Maybe Robin should check his own backpack. Do some research about it Phillip and check what they're talking about/ actually doing. I'm sorry for being so damn cruel about it but come on, look! Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Phillip Vector t...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: Did you even read what they quoted? They weren't supposto have them and now that Robin knows about it, he's taking them away. I'd say that was a pretty resonable response to it. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Kyle Sandersonkyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: This is quite ironic, almost every VALVe employee has the special VALVe guns (100% Crit, 15% speed, health, etc.) however they shitlist 5% of the community for running an external idler. Sounds like quite the plan I would like to see what you guys come up with next, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks for the update, robin! Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: ro...@valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:32:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Hi All. Our original usage of these was a couple of weeks ago, and lasted a day. It was mostly around testing the item system (they contain every positive attribute in the system). After that, we converted all the Valve weapons to be purely cosmetic. Unfortunately, unknown to us on the dev side, some of the non-TF2-team folks at Valve didn't get the memo, and gave themselves the broken items recently. We're removing these from everyone today, and removing the ability for folks to give these kinds of weapons to themselves in the future. Shouldn't happen again. (And if it somehow does, feel free to drop me an email at ro...@valvesoftware.com and let me know) Robin. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tgnwells Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:55 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So it was probably a TF2 dev, yeah. On 9/8/2009 3:30 AM, Alec Sanger wrote: Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 Valve Syringe Gun (equipped) +15% Damage Done +150% Clip Size +15% Firing Speed On Hit: +15 Health 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players +50 Max Health on Wearer On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target Fire Retardant (1) Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) Speed Boost When Active (1.15) Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee coming in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I might as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
This is quite ironic, almost every VALVe employee has the special VALVe guns (100% Crit, 15% speed, health, etc.) however they shitlist 5% of the community for running an external idler. Sounds like quite the plan I would like to see what you guys come up with next, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks for the update, robin! Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: ro...@valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:32:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Hi All. Our original usage of these was a couple of weeks ago, and lasted a day. It was mostly around testing the item system (they contain every positive attribute in the system). After that, we converted all the Valve weapons to be purely cosmetic. Unfortunately, unknown to us on the dev side, some of the non-TF2-team folks at Valve didn't get the memo, and gave themselves the broken items recently. We're removing these from everyone today, and removing the ability for folks to give these kinds of weapons to themselves in the future. Shouldn't happen again. (And if it somehow does, feel free to drop me an email at ro...@valvesoftware.com and let me know) Robin. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tgnwells Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:55 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So it was probably a TF2 dev, yeah. On 9/8/2009 3:30 AM, Alec Sanger wrote: Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 Valve Syringe Gun (equipped) +15% Damage Done +150% Clip Size +15% Firing Speed On Hit: +15 Health 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players +50 Max Health on Wearer On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target Fire Retardant (1) Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) Speed Boost When Active (1.15) Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee coming in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I might as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
A-ha-ha. You may ignore my previous email questioning your intentions. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:11 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Sorry, last time I had looked was when I had lost my Fireaxe due to idling once, that was when I saw a bunch of Valve employee's with the pimped out FireAxe's and other misc weapons on the 2nd. http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960563532 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197993060890 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622 I apologize for my previous outburst as it was really uncalled for and not needed, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: The items that gave the special abilities actually had them listed - the one's that just say Special Attributes are the purely aesthetic ones that Robin was speaking of. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: kyle.l...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:29:03 -0700 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960435530 Really now? Maybe Robin should check his own backpack. Do some research about it Phillip and check what they're talking about/ actually doing. I'm sorry for being so damn cruel about it but come on, look! Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Phillip Vector t...@mostdeadlygame.com wrote: Did you even read what they quoted? They weren't supposto have them and now that Robin knows about it, he's taking them away. I'd say that was a pretty resonable response to it. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Kyle Sandersonkyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: This is quite ironic, almost every VALVe employee has the special VALVe guns (100% Crit, 15% speed, health, etc.) however they shitlist 5% of the community for running an external idler. Sounds like quite the plan I would like to see what you guys come up with next, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks for the update, robin! Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: ro...@valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:32:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Hi All. Our original usage of these was a couple of weeks ago, and lasted a day. It was mostly around testing the item system (they contain every positive attribute in the system). After that, we converted all the Valve weapons to be purely cosmetic. Unfortunately, unknown to us on the dev side, some of the non-TF2-team folks at Valve didn't get the memo, and gave themselves the broken items recently. We're removing these from everyone today, and removing the ability for folks to give these kinds of weapons to themselves in the future. Shouldn't happen again. (And if it somehow does, feel free to drop me an email at ro...@valvesoftware.com and let me know) Robin. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tgnwells Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:55 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So it was probably a TF2 dev, yeah. On 9/8/2009 3:30 AM, Alec Sanger wrote: Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 Valve Syringe Gun (equipped) +15% Damage Done +150% Clip Size +15% Firing Speed On Hit: +15 Health 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players +50 Max Health on Wearer On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target Fire Retardant (1) Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) Speed Boost When Active (1.15) Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee coming in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I might as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
Did you even read what they quoted? They weren't supposto have them and now that Robin knows about it, he's taking them away. I'd say that was a pretty resonable response to it. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Kyle Sandersonkyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: This is quite ironic, almost every VALVe employee has the special VALVe guns (100% Crit, 15% speed, health, etc.) however they shitlist 5% of the community for running an external idler. Sounds like quite the plan I would like to see what you guys come up with next, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks for the update, robin! Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: ro...@valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:32:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Hi All. Our original usage of these was a couple of weeks ago, and lasted a day. It was mostly around testing the item system (they contain every positive attribute in the system). After that, we converted all the Valve weapons to be purely cosmetic. Unfortunately, unknown to us on the dev side, some of the non-TF2-team folks at Valve didn't get the memo, and gave themselves the broken items recently. We're removing these from everyone today, and removing the ability for folks to give these kinds of weapons to themselves in the future. Shouldn't happen again. (And if it somehow does, feel free to drop me an email at ro...@valvesoftware.com and let me know) Robin. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tgnwells Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:55 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So it was probably a TF2 dev, yeah. On 9/8/2009 3:30 AM, Alec Sanger wrote: Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 Valve Syringe Gun (equipped) +15% Damage Done +150% Clip Size +15% Firing Speed On Hit: +15 Health 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players +50 Max Health on Wearer On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target Fire Retardant (1) Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) Speed Boost When Active (1.15) Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee coming in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I might as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
Sorry, last time I had looked was when I had lost my Fireaxe due to idling once, that was when I saw a bunch of Valve employee's with the pimped out FireAxe's and other misc weapons on the 2nd. http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960563532 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197993060890 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622 I apologize for my previous outburst as it was really uncalled for and not needed, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: The items that gave the special abilities actually had them listed - the one's that just say Special Attributes are the purely aesthetic ones that Robin was speaking of. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: kyle.l...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:29:03 -0700 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960435530 Really now? Maybe Robin should check his own backpack. Do some research about it Phillip and check what they're talking about/ actually doing. I'm sorry for being so damn cruel about it but come on, look! Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Phillip Vector t...@mostdeadlygame.com wrote: Did you even read what they quoted? They weren't supposto have them and now that Robin knows about it, he's taking them away. I'd say that was a pretty resonable response to it. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Kyle Sandersonkyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: This is quite ironic, almost every VALVe employee has the special VALVe guns (100% Crit, 15% speed, health, etc.) however they shitlist 5% of the community for running an external idler. Sounds like quite the plan I would like to see what you guys come up with next, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks for the update, robin! Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: ro...@valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:32:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Hi All. Our original usage of these was a couple of weeks ago, and lasted a day. It was mostly around testing the item system (they contain every positive attribute in the system). After that, we converted all the Valve weapons to be purely cosmetic. Unfortunately, unknown to us on the dev side, some of the non-TF2-team folks at Valve didn't get the memo, and gave themselves the broken items recently. We're removing these from everyone today, and removing the ability for folks to give these kinds of weapons to themselves in the future. Shouldn't happen again. (And if it somehow does, feel free to drop me an email at ro...@valvesoftware.com and let me know) Robin. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tgnwells Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:55 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So it was probably a TF2 dev, yeah. On 9/8/2009 3:30 AM, Alec Sanger wrote: Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 Valve Syringe Gun (equipped) +15% Damage Done +150% Clip Size +15% Firing Speed On Hit: +15 Health 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players +50 Max Health on Wearer On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target Fire Retardant (1) Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) Speed Boost When Active (1.15) Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee coming in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I might as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http
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Thanks for the update, robin! Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: ro...@valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:32:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Hi All. Our original usage of these was a couple of weeks ago, and lasted a day. It was mostly around testing the item system (they contain every positive attribute in the system). After that, we converted all the Valve weapons to be purely cosmetic. Unfortunately, unknown to us on the dev side, some of the non-TF2-team folks at Valve didn't get the memo, and gave themselves the broken items recently. We're removing these from everyone today, and removing the ability for folks to give these kinds of weapons to themselves in the future. Shouldn't happen again. (And if it somehow does, feel free to drop me an email at ro...@valvesoftware.com and let me know) Robin. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tgnwells Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:55 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So it was probably a TF2 dev, yeah. On 9/8/2009 3:30 AM, Alec Sanger wrote: Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 Valve Syringe Gun (equipped) +15% Damage Done +150% Clip Size +15% Firing Speed On Hit: +15 Health 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players +50 Max Health on Wearer On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100% Critical Chance On Hit: 30% Chance to Slow Target Fire Retardant (1) Dmg Taken From Fire Reduced (0.85) Speed Boost When Active (1.15) Just wondering if anyone's ever had issues with a valve employee coming in and dominating with one of their special weapons. I mean, shit, I might as well just ban the Valve group if this is going to happen. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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We are complaining about VALVe and the crappy weapons they made for themselves while saying that its unfair that they have an advantage over us normal people even though valve can do whatever they want as well... THEY MADE THE GAME Even if 100 people have valve weapons sooo Mnkras On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com wrote: A-ha-ha. You may ignore my previous email questioning your intentions. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:11 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Sorry, last time I had looked was when I had lost my Fireaxe due to idling once, that was when I saw a bunch of Valve employee's with the pimped out FireAxe's and other misc weapons on the 2nd. http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960563532 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197993060890 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622 I apologize for my previous outburst as it was really uncalled for and not needed, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: The items that gave the special abilities actually had them listed - the one's that just say Special Attributes are the purely aesthetic ones that Robin was speaking of. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: kyle.l...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:29:03 -0700 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960435530 Really now? Maybe Robin should check his own backpack. Do some research about it Phillip and check what they're talking about/ actually doing. I'm sorry for being so damn cruel about it but come on, look! Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Phillip Vector t...@mostdeadlygame.com wrote: Did you even read what they quoted? They weren't supposto have them and now that Robin knows about it, he's taking them away. I'd say that was a pretty resonable response to it. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Kyle Sandersonkyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: This is quite ironic, almost every VALVe employee has the special VALVe guns (100% Crit, 15% speed, health, etc.) however they shitlist 5% of the community for running an external idler. Sounds like quite the plan I would like to see what you guys come up with next, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks for the update, robin! Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: ro...@valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:32:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Hi All. Our original usage of these was a couple of weeks ago, and lasted a day. It was mostly around testing the item system (they contain every positive attribute in the system). After that, we converted all the Valve weapons to be purely cosmetic. Unfortunately, unknown to us on the dev side, some of the non-TF2-team folks at Valve didn't get the memo, and gave themselves the broken items recently. We're removing these from everyone today, and removing the ability for folks to give these kinds of weapons to themselves in the future. Shouldn't happen again. (And if it somehow does, feel free to drop me an email at ro...@valvesoftware.com and let me know) Robin. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tgnwells Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:55 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So it was probably a TF2 dev, yeah. On 9/8/2009 3:30 AM, Alec Sanger wrote: Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection, it was a Valve employee using a special Syringe gun http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 Valve Syringe Gun (equipped) +15% Damage Done +150% Clip Size +15% Firing Speed On Hit: +15 Health 100% Critical Hit vs Burning Players +50 Max Health on Wearer On Kill: 5 Seconds of 100
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wat Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 19:50:16 -0400 From: mnk...@mnkras.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons We are complaining about VALVe and the crappy weapons they made for themselves while saying that its unfair that they have an advantage over us normal people even though valve can do whatever they want as well... THEY MADE THE GAME Even if 100 people have valve weapons sooo Mnkras On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com wrote: A-ha-ha. You may ignore my previous email questioning your intentions. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:11 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Sorry, last time I had looked was when I had lost my Fireaxe due to idling once, that was when I saw a bunch of Valve employee's with the pimped out FireAxe's and other misc weapons on the 2nd. http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960563532 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197993060890 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622 I apologize for my previous outburst as it was really uncalled for and not needed, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: The items that gave the special abilities actually had them listed - the one's that just say Special Attributes are the purely aesthetic ones that Robin was speaking of. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: kyle.l...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:29:03 -0700 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960435530 Really now? Maybe Robin should check his own backpack. Do some research about it Phillip and check what they're talking about/ actually doing. I'm sorry for being so damn cruel about it but come on, look! Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Phillip Vector t...@mostdeadlygame.com wrote: Did you even read what they quoted? They weren't supposto have them and now that Robin knows about it, he's taking them away. I'd say that was a pretty resonable response to it. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Kyle Sandersonkyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: This is quite ironic, almost every VALVe employee has the special VALVe guns (100% Crit, 15% speed, health, etc.) however they shitlist 5% of the community for running an external idler. Sounds like quite the plan I would like to see what you guys come up with next, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks for the update, robin! Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: ro...@valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:32:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Hi All. Our original usage of these was a couple of weeks ago, and lasted a day. It was mostly around testing the item system (they contain every positive attribute in the system). After that, we converted all the Valve weapons to be purely cosmetic. Unfortunately, unknown to us on the dev side, some of the non-TF2-team folks at Valve didn't get the memo, and gave themselves the broken items recently. We're removing these from everyone today, and removing the ability for folks to give these kinds of weapons to themselves in the future. Shouldn't happen again. (And if it somehow does, feel free to drop me an email at ro...@valvesoftware.com and let me know) Robin. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tgnwells Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:55 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So it was probably a TF2 dev, yeah. On 9/8/2009 3:30 AM, Alec Sanger wrote: Anyone ever run into a Valve employee using one of their special weapons? We were getting complaints of a 100% crit hacker last night. I guess the players started giving them shit so they left. Upon further inspection
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Says the guy who wrote the Sourcemod plugin to ban achievement farmers and even setup servers to ban people in when they received one achievement. I assume you did that because you absolutely agree'd with people getting achievements legitimately? Nothing serious going on there now Msleeper... How is this any different? I have no issue with employee's receiving Hats, although everyone in achievement_idle maps right now, and the over 100,000 people who were idling for hats/dupe unlocks using that external idler may. Current people in achievement_idle servers: http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=achievement_idletype=mappublic=pg=1then you can use the steam browser to find the ones that were not submitted to game-monitor.com. You have balls sir, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:32 PM, msleeper mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.comwrote: God forbid the game developers want to have a little fun with the game they developed. I think you really need to chill out and quit taking the whole hat thing so seriously. The devs gave themselves hats and unique weapons. So what. It's their game. On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 17:17 -0700, Kyle Sanderson wrote: We as customers bought the game, as the person who made this email found out pretty fast valve employees are running around servers using these items that give themselves one hell of an advantage over the regular player. There is no need to be sarcastic in here Michael, I was upset at the fact that they all had circumvented the regular way of getting items (just playing the game). Instead *some* not all of their employees which has been made clear to myself in here had some uber'd version of a regular gun, and which ever hat they wanted. To me as a paying customer that is does no sit right at all set right in my mind. The employee's already have enough perks by being able to beta test games and or get games for free. They should not be destroying the game for paying customers just because they were hired (again this is no longer true, but whatever), or by being able to circumvent the shoddy item giving system and give themselves which ever items they please. Now tell me, which one of you has managed to get 8hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561198001709917? 9hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622? 19hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971292977? 21hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654? 24hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971049296? 26hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654? 27hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960265731? the list really goes on so I'll spare everyone the trouble, I didn't bother looking at all 159 profiles but if someone wants to... all the power to you. I know I'm probably the only one against this, but that's just me. Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Michael Krasnow mnk...@mnkras.com wrote: We are complaining about VALVe and the crappy weapons they made for themselves while saying that its unfair that they have an advantage over us normal people even though valve can do whatever they want as well... THEY MADE THE GAME Even if 100 people have valve weapons sooo Mnkras On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com wrote: A-ha-ha. You may ignore my previous email questioning your intentions. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:11 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Sorry, last time I had looked was when I had lost my Fireaxe due to idling once, that was when I saw a bunch of Valve employee's with the pimped out FireAxe's and other misc weapons on the 2nd. http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960563532 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197993060890 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622 I apologize for my previous outburst as it was really uncalled for and not needed, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: The items that gave the special abilities actually had them listed - the one's that just say Special Attributes are the purely aesthetic ones that Robin was speaking of. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: kyle.l...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:29:03 -0700 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960435530 Really now? Maybe Robin should check his own backpack. Do some research about it Phillip and check
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lol that would be retarded almost as retarded as giving out halos and valve weapons idk what i was saying earlier :) Mnkras On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:11 PM, AzuiSleet azuisl...@gmail.com wrote: You're all forgetting the easy solution, unlock the items interface and let anyone make items. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: wat Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 19:50:16 -0400 From: mnk...@mnkras.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons We are complaining about VALVe and the crappy weapons they made for themselves while saying that its unfair that they have an advantage over us normal people even though valve can do whatever they want as well... THEY MADE THE GAME Even if 100 people have valve weapons sooo Mnkras On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com wrote: A-ha-ha. You may ignore my previous email questioning your intentions. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:11 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Sorry, last time I had looked was when I had lost my Fireaxe due to idling once, that was when I saw a bunch of Valve employee's with the pimped out FireAxe's and other misc weapons on the 2nd. http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960563532 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197993060890 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622 I apologize for my previous outburst as it was really uncalled for and not needed, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: The items that gave the special abilities actually had them listed - the one's that just say Special Attributes are the purely aesthetic ones that Robin was speaking of. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: kyle.l...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:29:03 -0700 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960435530 Really now? Maybe Robin should check his own backpack. Do some research about it Phillip and check what they're talking about/ actually doing. I'm sorry for being so damn cruel about it but come on, look! Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Phillip Vector t...@mostdeadlygame.com wrote: Did you even read what they quoted? They weren't supposto have them and now that Robin knows about it, he's taking them away. I'd say that was a pretty resonable response to it. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: This is quite ironic, almost every VALVe employee has the special VALVe guns (100% Crit, 15% speed, health, etc.) however they shitlist 5% of the community for running an external idler. Sounds like quite the plan I would like to see what you guys come up with next, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks for the update, robin! Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: ro...@valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:32:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Hi All. Our original usage of these was a couple of weeks ago, and lasted a day. It was mostly around testing the item system (they contain every positive attribute in the system). After that, we converted all the Valve weapons to be purely cosmetic. Unfortunately, unknown to us on the dev side, some of the non-TF2-team folks at Valve didn't get the memo, and gave themselves the broken items recently. We're removing these from everyone today, and removing the ability for folks to give these kinds of weapons to themselves in the future. Shouldn't happen again. (And if it somehow does, feel free to drop me an email at ro...@valvesoftware.com and let me know) Robin. -Original Message- From
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God forbid the game developers want to have a little fun with the game they developed. I think you really need to chill out and quit taking the whole hat thing so seriously. The devs gave themselves hats and unique weapons. So what. It's their game. On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 17:17 -0700, Kyle Sanderson wrote: We as customers bought the game, as the person who made this email found out pretty fast valve employees are running around servers using these items that give themselves one hell of an advantage over the regular player. There is no need to be sarcastic in here Michael, I was upset at the fact that they all had circumvented the regular way of getting items (just playing the game). Instead *some* not all of their employees which has been made clear to myself in here had some uber'd version of a regular gun, and which ever hat they wanted. To me as a paying customer that is does no sit right at all set right in my mind. The employee's already have enough perks by being able to beta test games and or get games for free. They should not be destroying the game for paying customers just because they were hired (again this is no longer true, but whatever), or by being able to circumvent the shoddy item giving system and give themselves which ever items they please. Now tell me, which one of you has managed to get 8hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561198001709917? 9hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622? 19hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971292977? 21hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654? 24hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971049296? 26hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654? 27hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960265731? the list really goes on so I'll spare everyone the trouble, I didn't bother looking at all 159 profiles but if someone wants to... all the power to you. I know I'm probably the only one against this, but that's just me. Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Michael Krasnow mnk...@mnkras.com wrote: We are complaining about VALVe and the crappy weapons they made for themselves while saying that its unfair that they have an advantage over us normal people even though valve can do whatever they want as well... THEY MADE THE GAME Even if 100 people have valve weapons sooo Mnkras On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com wrote: A-ha-ha. You may ignore my previous email questioning your intentions. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:11 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Sorry, last time I had looked was when I had lost my Fireaxe due to idling once, that was when I saw a bunch of Valve employee's with the pimped out FireAxe's and other misc weapons on the 2nd. http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960563532 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197993060890 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622 I apologize for my previous outburst as it was really uncalled for and not needed, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: The items that gave the special abilities actually had them listed - the one's that just say Special Attributes are the purely aesthetic ones that Robin was speaking of. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: kyle.l...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:29:03 -0700 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960435530 Really now? Maybe Robin should check his own backpack. Do some research about it Phillip and check what they're talking about/ actually doing. I'm sorry for being so damn cruel about it but come on, look! Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Phillip Vector t...@mostdeadlygame.com wrote: Did you even read what they quoted? They weren't supposto have them and now that Robin knows about it, he's taking them away. I'd say that was a pretty resonable response to it. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Kyle Sandersonkyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: This is quite ironic, almost every VALVe employee has the special VALVe guns (100% Crit, 15% speed, health, etc.) however they shitlist 5% of the community for running an external idler. Sounds like quite the plan I would like to see what you guys come up with next, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote
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You're all forgetting the easy solution, unlock the items interface and let anyone make items. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: wat Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 19:50:16 -0400 From: mnk...@mnkras.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons We are complaining about VALVe and the crappy weapons they made for themselves while saying that its unfair that they have an advantage over us normal people even though valve can do whatever they want as well... THEY MADE THE GAME Even if 100 people have valve weapons sooo Mnkras On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com wrote: A-ha-ha. You may ignore my previous email questioning your intentions. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:11 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Sorry, last time I had looked was when I had lost my Fireaxe due to idling once, that was when I saw a bunch of Valve employee's with the pimped out FireAxe's and other misc weapons on the 2nd. http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960563532 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197993060890 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622 I apologize for my previous outburst as it was really uncalled for and not needed, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: The items that gave the special abilities actually had them listed - the one's that just say Special Attributes are the purely aesthetic ones that Robin was speaking of. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: kyle.l...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:29:03 -0700 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960435530 Really now? Maybe Robin should check his own backpack. Do some research about it Phillip and check what they're talking about/ actually doing. I'm sorry for being so damn cruel about it but come on, look! Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Phillip Vector t...@mostdeadlygame.com wrote: Did you even read what they quoted? They weren't supposto have them and now that Robin knows about it, he's taking them away. I'd say that was a pretty resonable response to it. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: This is quite ironic, almost every VALVe employee has the special VALVe guns (100% Crit, 15% speed, health, etc.) however they shitlist 5% of the community for running an external idler. Sounds like quite the plan I would like to see what you guys come up with next, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks for the update, robin! Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: ro...@valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:32:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Hi All. Our original usage of these was a couple of weeks ago, and lasted a day. It was mostly around testing the item system (they contain every positive attribute in the system). After that, we converted all the Valve weapons to be purely cosmetic. Unfortunately, unknown to us on the dev side, some of the non-TF2-team folks at Valve didn't get the memo, and gave themselves the broken items recently. We're removing these from everyone today, and removing the ability for folks to give these kinds of weapons to themselves in the future. Shouldn't happen again. (And if it somehow does, feel free to drop me an email at ro...@valvesoftware.com and let me know) Robin. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tgnwells Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:55 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Seems like a childish and unprofessional thing to do. So
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We as customers bought the game, as the person who made this email found out pretty fast valve employees are running around servers using these items that give themselves one hell of an advantage over the regular player. There is no need to be sarcastic in here Michael, I was upset at the fact that they all had circumvented the regular way of getting items (just playing the game). Instead *some* not all of their employees which has been made clear to myself in here had some uber'd version of a regular gun, and which ever hat they wanted. To me as a paying customer that is does no sit right at all set right in my mind. The employee's already have enough perks by being able to beta test games and or get games for free. They should not be destroying the game for paying customers just because they were hired (again this is no longer true, but whatever), or by being able to circumvent the shoddy item giving system and give themselves which ever items they please. Now tell me, which one of you has managed to get 8hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561198001709917? 9hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622? 19hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971292977? 21hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654? 24hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971049296? 26hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654? 27hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960265731? the list really goes on so I'll spare everyone the trouble, I didn't bother looking at all 159 profiles but if someone wants to... all the power to you. I know I'm probably the only one against this, but that's just me. Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Michael Krasnow mnk...@mnkras.com wrote: We are complaining about VALVe and the crappy weapons they made for themselves while saying that its unfair that they have an advantage over us normal people even though valve can do whatever they want as well... THEY MADE THE GAME Even if 100 people have valve weapons sooo Mnkras On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com wrote: A-ha-ha. You may ignore my previous email questioning your intentions. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:11 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Sorry, last time I had looked was when I had lost my Fireaxe due to idling once, that was when I saw a bunch of Valve employee's with the pimped out FireAxe's and other misc weapons on the 2nd. http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960563532 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197993060890 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622 I apologize for my previous outburst as it was really uncalled for and not needed, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: The items that gave the special abilities actually had them listed - the one's that just say Special Attributes are the purely aesthetic ones that Robin was speaking of. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: kyle.l...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:29:03 -0700 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960435530 Really now? Maybe Robin should check his own backpack. Do some research about it Phillip and check what they're talking about/ actually doing. I'm sorry for being so damn cruel about it but come on, look! Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Phillip Vector t...@mostdeadlygame.com wrote: Did you even read what they quoted? They weren't supposto have them and now that Robin knows about it, he's taking them away. I'd say that was a pretty resonable response to it. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Kyle Sandersonkyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: This is quite ironic, almost every VALVe employee has the special VALVe guns (100% Crit, 15% speed, health, etc.) however they shitlist 5% of the community for running an external idler. Sounds like quite the plan I would like to see what you guys come up with next, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks for the update, robin! Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: ro...@valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:32:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Hi All. Our original usage of these was a couple of weeks ago
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons
I certainly don't mind the getting the hats for free, since they give absolutely no advantage over others. The overpowered weapons, however, gave them a huge advantage, which was why I had an issue with it. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: kyle.l...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:57:11 -0700 To: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Says the guy who wrote the Sourcemod plugin to ban achievement farmers and even setup servers to ban people in when they received one achievement. I assume you did that because you absolutely agree'd with people getting achievements legitimately? Nothing serious going on there now Msleeper... How is this any different? I have no issue with employee's receiving Hats, although everyone in achievement_idle maps right now, and the over 100,000 people who were idling for hats/dupe unlocks using that external idler may. Current people in achievement_idle servers: http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=achievement_idletype=mappublic=pg=1then you can use the steam browser to find the ones that were not submitted to game-monitor.com. You have balls sir, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:32 PM, msleeper mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.comwrote: God forbid the game developers want to have a little fun with the game they developed. I think you really need to chill out and quit taking the whole hat thing so seriously. The devs gave themselves hats and unique weapons. So what. It's their game. On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 17:17 -0700, Kyle Sanderson wrote: We as customers bought the game, as the person who made this email found out pretty fast valve employees are running around servers using these items that give themselves one hell of an advantage over the regular player. There is no need to be sarcastic in here Michael, I was upset at the fact that they all had circumvented the regular way of getting items (just playing the game). Instead *some* not all of their employees which has been made clear to myself in here had some uber'd version of a regular gun, and which ever hat they wanted. To me as a paying customer that is does no sit right at all set right in my mind. The employee's already have enough perks by being able to beta test games and or get games for free. They should not be destroying the game for paying customers just because they were hired (again this is no longer true, but whatever), or by being able to circumvent the shoddy item giving system and give themselves which ever items they please. Now tell me, which one of you has managed to get 8hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561198001709917? 9hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622? 19hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971292977? 21hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654? 24hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971049296? 26hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654? 27hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960265731? the list really goes on so I'll spare everyone the trouble, I didn't bother looking at all 159 profiles but if someone wants to... all the power to you. I know I'm probably the only one against this, but that's just me. Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Michael Krasnow mnk...@mnkras.com wrote: We are complaining about VALVe and the crappy weapons they made for themselves while saying that its unfair that they have an advantage over us normal people even though valve can do whatever they want as well... THEY MADE THE GAME Even if 100 people have valve weapons sooo Mnkras On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com wrote: A-ha-ha. You may ignore my previous email questioning your intentions. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:11 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Sorry, last time I had looked was when I had lost my Fireaxe due to idling once, that was when I saw a bunch of Valve employee's with the pimped out FireAxe's and other misc weapons on the 2nd. http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960563532 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197993060890 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622 I apologize for my previous outburst as it was really uncalled for and not needed, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: The items that gave the special abilities actually had them listed
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This thread is just cry river. -Mike On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Alec Sangereclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: I certainly don't mind the getting the hats for free, since they give absolutely no advantage over others. The overpowered weapons, however, gave them a huge advantage, which was why I had an issue with it. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: kyle.l...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:57:11 -0700 To: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Says the guy who wrote the Sourcemod plugin to ban achievement farmers and even setup servers to ban people in when they received one achievement. I assume you did that because you absolutely agree'd with people getting achievements legitimately? Nothing serious going on there now Msleeper... How is this any different? I have no issue with employee's receiving Hats, although everyone in achievement_idle maps right now, and the over 100,000 people who were idling for hats/dupe unlocks using that external idler may. Current people in achievement_idle servers: http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=achievement_idletype=mappublic=pg=1then you can use the steam browser to find the ones that were not submitted to game-monitor.com. You have balls sir, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:32 PM, msleeper mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.comwrote: God forbid the game developers want to have a little fun with the game they developed. I think you really need to chill out and quit taking the whole hat thing so seriously. The devs gave themselves hats and unique weapons. So what. It's their game. On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 17:17 -0700, Kyle Sanderson wrote: We as customers bought the game, as the person who made this email found out pretty fast valve employees are running around servers using these items that give themselves one hell of an advantage over the regular player. There is no need to be sarcastic in here Michael, I was upset at the fact that they all had circumvented the regular way of getting items (just playing the game). Instead *some* not all of their employees which has been made clear to myself in here had some uber'd version of a regular gun, and which ever hat they wanted. To me as a paying customer that is does no sit right at all set right in my mind. The employee's already have enough perks by being able to beta test games and or get games for free. They should not be destroying the game for paying customers just because they were hired (again this is no longer true, but whatever), or by being able to circumvent the shoddy item giving system and give themselves which ever items they please. Now tell me, which one of you has managed to get 8hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561198001709917? 9hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622? 19hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971292977? 21hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654? 24hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971049296? 26hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654? 27hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960265731? the list really goes on so I'll spare everyone the trouble, I didn't bother looking at all 159 profiles but if someone wants to... all the power to you. I know I'm probably the only one against this, but that's just me. Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Michael Krasnow mnk...@mnkras.com wrote: We are complaining about VALVe and the crappy weapons they made for themselves while saying that its unfair that they have an advantage over us normal people even though valve can do whatever they want as well... THEY MADE THE GAME Even if 100 people have valve weapons sooo Mnkras On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com wrote: A-ha-ha. You may ignore my previous email questioning your intentions. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:11 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Sorry, last time I had looked was when I had lost my Fireaxe due to idling once, that was when I saw a bunch of Valve employee's with the pimped out FireAxe's and other misc weapons on the 2nd. http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960563532 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197993060890 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622 I apologize for my previous outburst as it was really uncalled for and not needed, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Alec Sanger eclyp
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Less QQ, more PEW! PEW! On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Mike Zimmermannrem...@gmail.com wrote: This thread is just cry river. -Mike On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Alec Sangereclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: I certainly don't mind the getting the hats for free, since they give absolutely no advantage over others. The overpowered weapons, however, gave them a huge advantage, which was why I had an issue with it. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: kyle.l...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:57:11 -0700 To: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Says the guy who wrote the Sourcemod plugin to ban achievement farmers and even setup servers to ban people in when they received one achievement. I assume you did that because you absolutely agree'd with people getting achievements legitimately? Nothing serious going on there now Msleeper... How is this any different? I have no issue with employee's receiving Hats, although everyone in achievement_idle maps right now, and the over 100,000 people who were idling for hats/dupe unlocks using that external idler may. Current people in achievement_idle servers: http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=achievement_idletype=mappublic=pg=1then you can use the steam browser to find the ones that were not submitted to game-monitor.com. You have balls sir, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:32 PM, msleeper mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.comwrote: God forbid the game developers want to have a little fun with the game they developed. I think you really need to chill out and quit taking the whole hat thing so seriously. The devs gave themselves hats and unique weapons. So what. It's their game. On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 17:17 -0700, Kyle Sanderson wrote: We as customers bought the game, as the person who made this email found out pretty fast valve employees are running around servers using these items that give themselves one hell of an advantage over the regular player. There is no need to be sarcastic in here Michael, I was upset at the fact that they all had circumvented the regular way of getting items (just playing the game). Instead *some* not all of their employees which has been made clear to myself in here had some uber'd version of a regular gun, and which ever hat they wanted. To me as a paying customer that is does no sit right at all set right in my mind. The employee's already have enough perks by being able to beta test games and or get games for free. They should not be destroying the game for paying customers just because they were hired (again this is no longer true, but whatever), or by being able to circumvent the shoddy item giving system and give themselves which ever items they please. Now tell me, which one of you has managed to get 8hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561198001709917? 9hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622? 19hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971292977? 21hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654? 24hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971049296? 26hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654? 27hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960265731? the list really goes on so I'll spare everyone the trouble, I didn't bother looking at all 159 profiles but if someone wants to... all the power to you. I know I'm probably the only one against this, but that's just me. Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Michael Krasnow mnk...@mnkras.com wrote: We are complaining about VALVe and the crappy weapons they made for themselves while saying that its unfair that they have an advantage over us normal people even though valve can do whatever they want as well... THEY MADE THE GAME Even if 100 people have valve weapons sooo Mnkras On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com wrote: A-ha-ha. You may ignore my previous email questioning your intentions. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:11 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Sorry, last time I had looked was when I had lost my Fireaxe due to idling once, that was when I saw a bunch of Valve employee's with the pimped out FireAxe's and other misc weapons on the 2nd. http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960563532 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197993060890 http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622 I apologize for my previous outburst as it was really
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If you hate Valve so much, you can ban all the Valve Steam IDs. Or even better, uninstall the game and delete your server. I seriously have no idea why people are so pissed off about this. It's their game, let them have their fun. Are you telling me you've NEVER abused your powers on your server? Slapped someone for fun? Given yourself health? No clip? Teleported a Medic closer? Let them have their fun and get over it. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Markbigb...@gmail.com wrote: Less QQ, more PEW! PEW! On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Mike Zimmermannrem...@gmail.com wrote: This thread is just cry river. -Mike On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Alec Sangereclyp...@hotmail.com wrote: I certainly don't mind the getting the hats for free, since they give absolutely no advantage over others. The overpowered weapons, however, gave them a huge advantage, which was why I had an issue with it. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 From: kyle.l...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:57:11 -0700 To: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using their special weapons Says the guy who wrote the Sourcemod plugin to ban achievement farmers and even setup servers to ban people in when they received one achievement. I assume you did that because you absolutely agree'd with people getting achievements legitimately? Nothing serious going on there now Msleeper... How is this any different? I have no issue with employee's receiving Hats, although everyone in achievement_idle maps right now, and the over 100,000 people who were idling for hats/dupe unlocks using that external idler may. Current people in achievement_idle servers: http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=achievement_idletype=mappublic=pg=1then you can use the steam browser to find the ones that were not submitted to game-monitor.com. You have balls sir, Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:32 PM, msleeper mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.comwrote: God forbid the game developers want to have a little fun with the game they developed. I think you really need to chill out and quit taking the whole hat thing so seriously. The devs gave themselves hats and unique weapons. So what. It's their game. On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 17:17 -0700, Kyle Sanderson wrote: We as customers bought the game, as the person who made this email found out pretty fast valve employees are running around servers using these items that give themselves one hell of an advantage over the regular player. There is no need to be sarcastic in here Michael, I was upset at the fact that they all had circumvented the regular way of getting items (just playing the game). Instead *some* not all of their employees which has been made clear to myself in here had some uber'd version of a regular gun, and which ever hat they wanted. To me as a paying customer that is does no sit right at all set right in my mind. The employee's already have enough perks by being able to beta test games and or get games for free. They should not be destroying the game for paying customers just because they were hired (again this is no longer true, but whatever), or by being able to circumvent the shoddy item giving system and give themselves which ever items they please. Now tell me, which one of you has managed to get 8hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561198001709917? 9hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960434622? 19hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971292977? 21hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654? 24hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197971049296? 26hats http://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197999842654? 27hatshttp://tf2items.com/profiles/76561197960265731? the list really goes on so I'll spare everyone the trouble, I didn't bother looking at all 159 profiles but if someone wants to... all the power to you. I know I'm probably the only one against this, but that's just me. Kyle. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Michael Krasnow mnk...@mnkras.com wrote: We are complaining about VALVe and the crappy weapons they made for themselves while saying that its unfair that they have an advantage over us normal people even though valve can do whatever they want as well... THEY MADE THE GAME Even if 100 people have valve weapons sooo Mnkras On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com wrote: A-ha-ha. You may ignore my previous email questioning your intentions. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:11 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Valve using
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i just want a hat :( On 9/8/2009 8:13 PM, Matthew Gottlieb wrote: ople are so pissed off about this. It's their game, let them have th ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
