Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Josh Russell]

We've had it testing on our server for a while now.  I notice a slight
background/side static in *some* people's mics (identical kind of small
static) that others aren't noticing.  I'm wondering if it might have to do
with my sound being set to 96000 Hz or something, but... I really wouldn't
know.  And of course there's when some people's mic chat turns them into
chipmunks.

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 8:04 PM, Eric Smith  wrote:

> Yes, the voice codec note was missed in the original update but was added
> later this afternoon:
>
> Note missed from the previous update:
> - The CELT voice codec is now the default for all game servers
> - Community servers can enable use of the older steam
> voice codec with sv_use_steam_voice 1
>
> Apologies for not also sending this information to the mailing lists. I'll
> forward your information about customers having problems.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Eric
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On
> Behalf Of A Fearts
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:56 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released
>
> I noticed you also changed:
>
> sv_use_steam_voice So it defaults to: 0
> sv_voicecodec So it defaults to: vaudio_celt
>
>
> When testing these setting a month or so when it was in BETA stages I
> noticed a few issues. I would set these setting and restart the server to
> make sure it set everything properly. For most people their Mic quality is
> improved however, a significant minority of players were have a issue. When
> they tried to talk it sounded very quite to the point where you can almost
> not hear them.
>
> I don't think this is a issue with the new Voice Codec but with setting
> Steam Voice to 0. I remember a issue like this happening to some people
> when I would set this to 0 in the past. Now that it's seems you are making
> these options the new standard is there any information you can give us as
> to why this may be happen to certain players and how to fix it?
>
> Thanks for the update and have a happy holiday.
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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[HD]

Sugar coat it all you like – the change was FORCED when they could have left it 
to defaults and gave you the way to use this new codec rather than FORCE the 
change and give you a way to change it back. 

Lol really…?  

If it ain’t broke – don’t fix it.

 

From: hlds [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nicholas 
Hastings
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:16 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

 

It's not "forced". If it wasn't optional, you wouldn't be able to change your 
servers back.

-- 
Nicholas Hastings
AlliedMods.net <http://www.alliedmods.net> 






HD <mailto:ad...@gamerscrib.net> 

Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:11 PM

Why force this change onto people from what was default? You should have made 
this optional not the other way around.
I'm changing all my servers I have left back to the old codec as there are just 
too many players having issues with it and others sound like they are in a hole.

-Original Message-
From: hlds [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:05 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

Yes, the voice codec note was missed in the original update but was added later 
this afternoon:

Note missed from the previous update:
- The CELT voice codec is now the default for all game servers
- Community servers can enable use of the older steam voice codec with 
sv_use_steam_voice 1

Apologies for not also sending this information to the mailing lists. I'll 
forward your information about customers having problems.

Thanks.

-Eric


-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf 
Of A Fearts
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:56 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

I noticed you also changed:

sv_use_steam_voice So it defaults to: 0
sv_voicecodec So it defaults to: vaudio_celt


When testing these setting a month or so when it was in BETA stages I noticed a 
few issues. I would set these setting and restart the server to make sure it 
set everything properly. For most people their Mic quality is improved however, 
a significant minority of players were have a issue. When they tried to talk it 
sounded very quite to the point where you can almost not hear them.

I don't think this is a issue with the new Voice Codec but with setting Steam 
Voice to 0. I remember a issue like this happening to some people when I would 
set this to 0 in the past. Now that it's seems you are making these options the 
new standard is there any information you can give us as to why this may be 
happen to certain players and how to fix it?

Thanks for the update and have a happy holiday.
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Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:04 PM

Yes, the voice codec note was missed in the original update but was added later 
this afternoon:

Note missed from the previous update:
- The CELT voice codec is now the default for all game servers
- Community servers can enable use of the older steam voice codec with 
sv_use_steam_voice 1

Apologies for not also sending this information to the mailing lists. I'll 
forward your information about customers having problems.

Thanks.

-Eric


-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf 
Of A Fearts
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:56 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

I noticed you also changed:

sv_use_steam_voice So it defaults to: 0
sv_voicecodec So it defaults to: vaudio_celt


When testing these setting a month or so when it was in BETA stages I noticed a 
few issues. I would set these setting and restart the server to make sure it 
set everything properly. For most people their Mic quality is improved however, 
a significant minority of players were have a issue. When they tried to talk it 
sounded very quite to the point where you can almost not hear them.

I don't think this is a issue with the new Voice Codec but with setting Steam 
Voice to 0. I remember a issue like this happening to some people when I would 
set this to 0 in the past. Now that it's seems you are making these options the 
new standard is there any information you can give us as to why this may be 
happe

Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Nicholas Hastings]

It's not "forced". If it wasn't optional, you wouldn't be able to change
your servers back.

-- 
Nicholas Hastings
AlliedMods.net <http://www.alliedmods.net>



> HD <mailto:ad...@gamerscrib.net>
> Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:11 PM
> Why force this change onto people from what was default? You should
> have made this optional not the other way around.
> I'm changing all my servers I have left back to the old codec as there
> are just too many players having issues with it and others sound like
> they are in a hole.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of
> Eric Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:05 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list;
> hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released
>
> Yes, the voice codec note was missed in the original update but was
> added later this afternoon:
>
> Note missed from the previous update:
> - The CELT voice codec is now the default for all game servers
> - Community servers can enable use of the older steam voice codec with
> sv_use_steam_voice 1
>
> Apologies for not also sending this information to the mailing lists.
> I'll forward your information about customers having problems.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Eric
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On
> Behalf Of A Fearts
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:56 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released
>
> I noticed you also changed:
>
> sv_use_steam_voice So it defaults to: 0
> sv_voicecodec So it defaults to: vaudio_celt
>
>
> When testing these setting a month or so when it was in BETA stages I
> noticed a few issues. I would set these setting and restart the server
> to make sure it set everything properly. For most people their Mic
> quality is improved however, a significant minority of players were
> have a issue. When they tried to talk it sounded very quite to the
> point where you can almost not hear them.
>
> I don't think this is a issue with the new Voice Codec but with
> setting Steam Voice to 0. I remember a issue like this happening to
> some people when I would set this to 0 in the past. Now that it's
> seems you are making these options the new standard is there any
> information you can give us as to why this may be happen to certain
> players and how to fix it?
>
> Thanks for the update and have a happy holiday.
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> Eric Smith <mailto:er...@valvesoftware.com>
> Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:04 PM
> Yes, the voice codec note was missed in the original update but was
> added later this afternoon:
>
> Note missed from the previous update:
> - The CELT voice codec is now the default for all game servers
> - Community servers can enable use of the older steam voice codec with
> sv_use_steam_voice 1
>
> Apologies for not also sending this information to the mailing lists.
> I'll forward your information about customers having problems.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Eric
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On
> Behalf Of A Fearts
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:56 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released
>
> I noticed you also changed:
>
> sv_use_steam_voice So it defaults to: 0
> sv_voicecodec So it defaults to: vaudio_celt
>
>
> When testing these setting a month or so when it was in BETA stages I
> noticed a few issues. I would set these setting and restart the server
> to make sure it set everything properly. For most people their Mic
> quality is improved however, a significant minority of players were
> have a issue. When they tried to talk it sounded very quite to the
> point where you can almost not hear them.
>
> I don't think this is a issue with the new Voice Codec but with
> setting Steam Voice to 0. I remember a issue like this happening to
> some people when I would set this to 0 in the past. Now that it's
> seems you are making these options the new standard is there any
> information you can give us as to why this may be happen to cert

Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[HD]

Why force this change onto people from what was default? You should have made 
this optional not the other way around.
I'm changing all my servers I have left back to the old codec as there are just 
too many players having issues with it and others sound like they are in a hole.

-Original Message-
From: hlds [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:05 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

Yes, the voice codec note was missed in the original update but was added later 
this afternoon:
 
Note missed from the previous update:
- The CELT voice codec is now the default for all game servers
- Community servers can enable use of the older steam voice 
codec with sv_use_steam_voice 1

Apologies for not also sending this information to the mailing lists. I'll 
forward your information about customers having problems.

Thanks.

-Eric


-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf 
Of A Fearts
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:56 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

I noticed you also changed:

sv_use_steam_voice So it defaults to: 0
sv_voicecodec So it defaults to: vaudio_celt


When testing these setting a month or so when it was in BETA stages I noticed a 
few issues. I would set these setting and restart the server to make sure it 
set everything properly. For most people their Mic quality is improved however, 
a significant minority of players were have a issue. When they tried to talk it 
sounded very quite to the point where you can almost not hear them.

I don't think this is a issue with the new Voice Codec but with setting Steam 
Voice to 0. I remember a issue like this happening to some people when I would 
set this to 0 in the past. Now that it's seems you are making these options the 
new standard is there any information you can give us as to why this may be 
happen to certain players and how to fix it?

Thanks for the update and have a happy holiday.
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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Eric Smith]

Yes, the voice codec note was missed in the original update but was added later 
this afternoon:
 
Note missed from the previous update:
- The CELT voice codec is now the default for all game servers
- Community servers can enable use of the older steam voice 
codec with sv_use_steam_voice 1

Apologies for not also sending this information to the mailing lists. I'll 
forward your information about customers having problems.

Thanks.

-Eric


-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf 
Of A Fearts
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:56 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

I noticed you also changed:

sv_use_steam_voice So it defaults to: 0
sv_voicecodec So it defaults to: vaudio_celt


When testing these setting a month or so when it was in BETA stages I noticed a 
few issues. I would set these setting and restart the server to make sure it 
set everything properly. For most people their Mic quality is improved however, 
a significant minority of players were have a issue. When they tried to talk it 
sounded very quite to the point where you can almost not hear them.

I don't think this is a issue with the new Voice Codec but with setting Steam 
Voice to 0. I remember a issue like this happening to some people when I would 
set this to 0 in the past. Now that it's seems you are making these options the 
new standard is there any information you can give us as to why this may be 
happen to certain players and how to fix it?

Thanks for the update and have a happy holiday.
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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Matthew Hills]

Hi, Ross and co.

I was playing on Eyeaduct last night and found that engineers could build
during the truce but the buildings were not attackable. Not that it really
mattered because we just destroyed the sentry as soon as the truce finished
but hey ho.

Matty

On 4 November 2015 at 22:28, Ross Bemrose  wrote:

> I've been told that sappers can still be applied during Truce mode, but
> can't actually be removed during this time.
>
> This probably should be fixed.
>
> On 11/3/2015 8:22 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
>
>> We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The update notes are below.
>> The new version is 3078449.
>>
>> -Eric
>>
>> 
>>
>> - Fixed getting the Masked Mann achievement on maps other than Mann Manor
>> - Fixed a bug where the grappling hook would not switch back to the
>> previous weapon after being released
>> - Fixed the Quickplay server list sometimes displaying the map filename
>> instead of the proper name
>> - Added tournament medals for UGC Highlander Season 15, UGC Highlander
>> Season 16, UGC 6v6 Season 17, UGC 6v6 Season 18, UGC 4v4 Season 4, and UGC
>> 4v4 Season 5
>> - Updated the Monoculus and Merasmus battles on Eyeaduct and Ghost Fort
>> to call a temporary truce between the teams while fighting the boss
>> - Added server convar tf_halloween_allow_truce_during_boss_event
>> for community maps to use this feature
>> - Updated Merasmissions to include a Quickplay button that will
>> automatically join the required map or open the Quickplay menu if any map
>> can be used
>> - Updated taunts to prevent movement during the pre-round period when
>> players are frozen
>> - Updated the Invasion Coin to track stats through November 6th, 2015
>> - Updated pl_millstone_event
>> - Fixed getting out of the map using spells
>> - Monoculus moves now around the end area of the map instead of
>> staying near final pit
>> - Made spells spawn a bit less frequently
>> - Fixed ghost long arms, now it travels/arrives to hell
>> - Performance optimizations
>> - Updated the navigation file
>>
>>
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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Ross Bemrose]

Just an FYI:  Workshop Map downloads aren't working if you use
sv_setsteamaccount on that server.

On the plus side, it no longer crashes the server.  I've sent some logging
information to John Schoenick about it, since he was the one handling Map
Workshop stuff.

The short story is this:  It appears that the content servers are throwing
403 Forbidden errors when you the server tries downloading workshop maps
when said server is logged into Steam.

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Eric Smith er...@valvesoftware.com wrote:

 We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The update notes are below. The
 new version is 2927789.

 -Eric

 

 - Fixed an issue with the Festive Revolver not drawing correctly
 - Updated the materials for the Australium Minigun
 - PASS Time update
 - Fixed disguised Spies not having a shield drawn for them in the
 HUD
 - Fixed players being able to carry the jack while taunting (fixes
 an exploit with The Eureka Effect)
 - Fixed being able to 'inspect' the jack while players are
 carrying it
 - Fixed capturing the jack not incrementing Scout contract points
 - Updated pass_warehouse
 - Fixed a hole near the RED goal
 - Fixed some props where the jack could get stuck
 - Changed some small health kits to medium


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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[pilger]

Is it just me or we're getting the heads up email at the same time we get
the update released email?

Do I have someting misconfigured here, perhaps?


_pilger

On 15 December 2014 at 21:51, Eric Smith er...@valvesoftware.com wrote:

 We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are
 below. The new version number is 2547652.

 -Eric

 -

 - Fixed a client crash related to ragdolls
 - Updated rd_asteroid
 - Began interior art-pass process
 - Reduced respawn times for both teams by 1 second

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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Ross Bemrose]

I was hoping this would fix the PropHunt crash issue when players with 
server-set custom models (using the SetCustomModel input) died.  It didn't.


On 12/9/2014 8:16 PM, Eric Smith wrote:

We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are below. 
The new version number is 2537407.

-Eric

-

- Fixed a client crash related to the material system
- Fixed the Restore command not working properly in the backpack panel's 
context menu
- Fixed a crash in the item import tool
- Fixed updating Duck Journal stats from ducks created on servers using 
sv_cheats
- Fixed the Taunt: Pool Party item to fix a problem with the pool not scaling 
smoothly
- Updated the materials for the Hunter Heavy and the North Polar Fleece

Notes missed from the previous update:
- End of the Line Key, Duck Journal, and Duck Token sales support the End of 
the Line team
- Redesigned the backpack panel
 - Clicking on an item creates a context menu that lists the 
valid actions for that item
 - The context menu replaces the buttons that were used for 
interacting with items

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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[JasperLee93 -RDLoyalty]

Valve, did you or can you fix the Engineer Gunslinger exploit?


There is supposed to be no random critical hits, but if you hold down the fire 
kill and allow it to hit 2 times, the 3rd hit is like a scripted critical hit.


Thanks and regards

JasperLee93






Sent from Windows Mail





From: Ross Bemrose
Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎October‎ ‎16‎, ‎2014 ‎11‎:‎10‎ ‎AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list, Half-Life dedicated Linux 
server mailing list





Is it just me or do Valve map end votes no longer occur?

Could this be because sv_allow_votes is set to 0 on this server at map 
start?

I only noticed this because I'm trying to debug why the NativeVotes 
server plugin broke and was trying to collect data about various vote 
types and that one isn't happening.

On 10/15/2014 5:39 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
 We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are 
 below. The new version number is 2445722.

 -Eric

 -

 - Fixed an exploit related to clients uploading files to servers
 - Fixed a problem that allowed clients to have an out-of-date, corrupt, or 
 modified version of items_game.txt
- TF2 will not run if a bad items_game.txt file is found
- If your items_game.txt file is reported as being corrupt, delete any 
 items_game.txt files you have added and verify your TF2 installation
 - Fixed a timing problem with the Rancho Relaxo taunt animation
 - Removed the Limited Late Summer Crate from the crate drop list
 - Limited Late Summer Crates can no longer be opened
 - Removed the Limited Late Summer Crate Key from the Mann Co. Store
 - Limited Late Summer Crate Keys have been converted to Mann Co. Supply Crate 
 Keys 
 - Fixed Linux dedicated servers not showing up in the LAN serverbrowser tab 
 when using sv_lan 1
 - Fixed the Duels leaderboard not displaying current counts
 - Added the explosion particles to the list of files that we always enforce 
 consistency on
 - Added ConVar tf_classlimit
- When set, limit each class to the specified value
- Works in any game mode, but overridden in Tournament mode and 
 Highlander mode
 - Updated the model/materials for the Runner's Warm-Up to fix a lighting issue
 - Updated the equip_regions for the Couvre Corner and the Pocket Heavy
 - Updated rd_asteroid
- Continued art-pass process
 - Updated the vote system
- Fixed team-specific vote sounds/notifications playing/showing for 
 the ineligible team
- sv_vote_issue_restart_game_allowed default changed to off
- Added sv_vote_issue_restart_game_allowed_mvm (on by default)
- Added Enable/Disable Class Limits vote
- Controlled by sv_vote_issue_classlimits_allowed (off by 
 default)
- Limit controlled by sv_vote_issue_classlimits_max 
 (default 4)
- Controlled by sv_vote_issue_classlimits_allowed_mvm in Mann 
 vs. Machine (off by default)
- Limit controlled by 
 sv_vote_issue_classlimits_max_mvm in Mann vs. Machine (default 2)



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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Derek Howard]

That is the intended behavior. The item does not allow RANDOM crits. The
third-hit crit does not qualify as random.

Now there is apparently an exploit where an Engineer can store one of these
guaranteed crits for later use, but that doesn't appear to be what you are
referring to.
On Oct 16, 2014 4:00 PM, JasperLee93 -RDLoyalty 
jasper_lee_2...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Valve, did you or can you fix the Engineer Gunslinger exploit?

 There is supposed to be no random critical hits, but if you hold down the
 fire kill and allow it to hit 2 times, the 3rd hit is like a scripted
 critical hit.

 Thanks and regards
 JasperLee93

 Sent from Windows Mail

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 Is it just me or do Valve map end votes no longer occur?

 Could this be because sv_allow_votes is set to 0 on this server at map
 start?

 I only noticed this because I'm trying to debug why the NativeVotes
 server plugin broke and was trying to collect data about various vote
 types and that one isn't happening.

 On 10/15/2014 5:39 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
  We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are
 below. The new version number is 2445722.
 
  -Eric
 
  -
 
  - Fixed an exploit related to clients uploading files to servers
  - Fixed a problem that allowed clients to have an out-of-date, corrupt,
 or modified version of items_game.txt
 - TF2 will not run if a bad items_game.txt file is found
 - If your items_game.txt file is reported as being corrupt,
 delete any items_game.txt files you have added and verify your TF2
 installation
  - Fixed a timing problem with the Rancho Relaxo taunt animation
  - Removed the Limited Late Summer Crate from the crate drop list
  - Limited Late Summer Crates can no longer be opened
  - Removed the Limited Late Summer Crate Key from the Mann Co. Store
  - Limited Late Summer Crate Keys have been converted to Mann Co. Supply
 Crate Keys
  - Fixed Linux dedicated servers not showing up in the LAN serverbrowser
 tab when using sv_lan 1
  - Fixed the Duels leaderboard not displaying current counts
  - Added the explosion particles to the list of files that we always
 enforce consistency on
  - Added ConVar tf_classlimit
 - When set, limit each class to the specified value
 - Works in any game mode, but overridden in Tournament mode and
 Highlander mode
  - Updated the model/materials for the Runner's Warm-Up to fix a lighting
 issue
  - Updated the equip_regions for the Couvre Corner and the Pocket Heavy
  - Updated rd_asteroid
 - Continued art-pass process
  - Updated the vote system
 - Fixed team-specific vote sounds/notifications playing/showing
 for the ineligible team
 - sv_vote_issue_restart_game_allowed default changed to off
 - Added sv_vote_issue_restart_game_allowed_mvm (on by default)
 - Added Enable/Disable Class Limits vote
 - Controlled by sv_vote_issue_classlimits_allowed (off by
 default)
 - Limit controlled by
 sv_vote_issue_classlimits_max (default 4)
 - Controlled by sv_vote_issue_classlimits_allowed_mvm in
 Mann vs. Machine (off by default)
 - Limit controlled by
 sv_vote_issue_classlimits_max_mvm in Mann vs. Machine (default 2)
 
 
 
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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Ross Bemrose]

Right, but I enabled the sv_allow_votes cvar after map start... since I 
was only doing testing I didn't want to change the configuration.


Incidentally, I know what's wrong in NativeVotes:  TF2 now uses 0 for 
all teams instead of 255 / -1.  A new NativeVotes 1.0 beta is out now, 
but I plan on backporting the fix (and new vote types) to it.


The current 1.0x series will probably go away soon since changes to the 
VoteSetup usermessage murdered it.


On 10/15/2014 11:20 PM, ics wrote:
Yes, if you disable voting, it will disable kick votes, map votes, 
everything.


-ics

Ross Bemrose kirjoitti:

Is it just me or do Valve map end votes no longer occur?

Could this be because sv_allow_votes is set to 0 on this server at 
map start?


I only noticed this because I'm trying to debug why the NativeVotes 
server plugin broke and was trying to collect data about various vote 
types and that one isn't happening.


On 10/15/2014 5:39 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update 
are below. The new version number is 2445722.


-Eric

-

- Fixed an exploit related to clients uploading files to servers
- Fixed a problem that allowed clients to have an out-of-date, 
corrupt, or modified version of items_game.txt

- TF2 will not run if a bad items_game.txt file is found
- If your items_game.txt file is reported as being corrupt, 
delete any items_game.txt files you have added and verify your TF2 
installation

- Fixed a timing problem with the Rancho Relaxo taunt animation
- Removed the Limited Late Summer Crate from the crate drop list
- Limited Late Summer Crates can no longer be opened
- Removed the Limited Late Summer Crate Key from the Mann Co. Store
- Limited Late Summer Crate Keys have been converted to Mann Co. 
Supply Crate Keys
- Fixed Linux dedicated servers not showing up in the LAN 
serverbrowser tab when using sv_lan 1

- Fixed the Duels leaderboard not displaying current counts
- Added the explosion particles to the list of files that we always 
enforce consistency on

- Added ConVar tf_classlimit
- When set, limit each class to the specified value
- Works in any game mode, but overridden in Tournament mode and 
Highlander mode
- Updated the model/materials for the Runner's Warm-Up to fix a 
lighting issue

- Updated the equip_regions for the Couvre Corner and the Pocket Heavy
- Updated rd_asteroid
- Continued art-pass process
- Updated the vote system
- Fixed team-specific vote sounds/notifications playing/showing 
for the ineligible team

- sv_vote_issue_restart_game_allowed default changed to off
- Added sv_vote_issue_restart_game_allowed_mvm (on by default)
- Added Enable/Disable Class Limits vote
- Controlled by sv_vote_issue_classlimits_allowed (off by 
default)
- Limit controlled by sv_vote_issue_classlimits_max 
(default 4)
- Controlled by sv_vote_issue_classlimits_allowed_mvm in 
Mann vs. Machine (off by default)
- Limit controlled by sv_vote_issue_classlimits_max_mvm 
in Mann vs. Machine (default 2)




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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[JasperLee93 -RDLoyalty]

Are there currently any other known Crash exploits other than Taunting? 
(Overloads the console logger/rcon lock logger)

JasperLee93 -RDLoyalty



 On 17 Sep, 2014, at 7:53 am, Eric Smith er...@valvesoftware.com wrote:
 
 We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are 
 below. The new version number is 2404372.
 
 -Eric
 
 -
 
 - Fixed a server crash related to the vote kick system
 
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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Ross Bemrose]

...EYE.

Actually, this reply is to add hlds to the recipients since it was only 
sent to hlds_linux.


On 9/10/2014 7:39 PM, Matthias InstantMuffin Kollek wrote:

And on that note: Expect a fix soon. There's been some movement.
IRC hackers have struck once again! (Demo: THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE)

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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[big john]

Jeez... you think some people would take the hint.
On Aug 27, 2014 9:59 PM, Michael Loveless mloveless1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Eric, could you please make some sort of response to the issue regarding
 the HTML MOTD? There is an issue where clicked links re-open the MOTD in a
 new window, not the intended target destination. This is causing a lot of
 negative effects on servers that utilize the HTML MOTD for various in-game
 features since no one can get past the main HTML page in the MOTD. I have
 seen this question posed a few times since the last update. Please just
 take a moment and let us know if a fix is in the works and possibly when we
 could expect it, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for all the
 work you do for us!


 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I seem to remember HPE testing changes to de_dust on temporary
 'official' servers with a build-id appendage. It may be worth
 continuing that idea in TF as the pattern continues.

 Kyle.

 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Eric Smith er...@valvesoftware.com
 wrote:
  We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are
 below. The new version number is 2377855.
 
  -Eric
 
  -
 
  - Rolled back the previous changes to rd_asteroid
 
 
 
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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Jesse Molina]

Oh glorious. Someone at Valve learned what readline is.  The console 
command line is now accepting readline input.  That means command line 
history (up arrow), ctrl+a, ctrl+e, ctrl+u, ctrl+k, etc.


Look for these messages during server startup on the console:

WARNING: Failed to load term functions in libtinfo.so.5
WARNING: Failed to load term functions in libncurses.so.5

The symptoms I was seeing are that the console was not accepting any input.

Fixed with: sudo apt-get install lib32ncurses5 lib32tinfo5

Omitting this from the patch notes was a significantly negligent 
oversight, but in-line with expectations given historical trends.




On 8/7/14, 14:34, Ross Bemrose wrote:

It should also be noted that Linux servers have new dependencies on the
32-bit versions of ncurses and tinfo5.  Which aren't installed by default
on 64-bit systems.

On Debian/Ubuntu, these are provided by lib32ncurses5 and lib32tinfo5.


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Eric Smith er...@valvesoftware.com wrote:


We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are
below. The new version number is 2351233.

-Eric

-

- Dedicated server performance/stability improvements
- Added a new startup music track from Expiration Date
- Added missing photos/thumb images for koth_badlands
- Fixed a client crash related to the snd_restart command for Linux clients
- Fixed a dedicated server crash related to arrows
- Fixed the Bolt Boy using the wrong material for the Blu team
- Improved memory usage for Linux clients
- Updated the Restart Game and Scramble Teams votes to always have a
mandatory cool-down period
- Updated sv_memlimit to not be marked as a cheat convar
 - Added sv_minuptimelimit and sv_maxuptimelimit to manage the
server restart window
- Updated the equip_regions for the Mustachioed Mann, Ze Ubermensch, and
Vive La France
- Updated the localization files
- Updated pl_cactuscanyon
 - Removed rollback leading to the final capture point in stage 2
 - Reworked fence position on forward spawn building in stage 2
 - Expanded back alley near the final capture point in stage 2
 - Expanded back pathway near the final capture point in stage 1
 - Added small room inside building half way up the zig-zag in
stage 1
 - Adjusted health kits and ammo packs
 - Adjusted spawn times in stage 1 and 2
- Updated rd_asteroid
 - Widened left side spawn exit
 - Players can no longer build inside the staircase near A robots
 - Fixed sticky stair collision when coming out of the water near B
robots
 - Changed medium health kit near the C robots to a small health kit
 - Removed alert from voice over lines that announce your team
has dropped the reactor core
 - Fixed missing patch overlay under small health near center bridge

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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Lucas Wagner]

I know this isn't the place for feature requests, but I have to ask a
question that seems obvious in the light of the recent beta map release:

Why isn't pl_swiftwater in the standard map distribution?  It's been
thoroughly tested and another good PL map would be well received in the
community at least in my opinion.  There has to be a reason considering
process and snakewater are all former competitive maps now in the standard
distribution, why not swiftwater?


On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Ross Bemrose rbemr...@gmail.com wrote:

 All I know is on East Coast US, all I'm seeing for Shows Servers are
 CactusCanyon servers... Valve Beta srcds146 -srcds150 with various numbers
 after them.

 As Frank pointed out, having a Community Server option might fix that, but
 it's disabled for the Beta maps.


 On 7/8/2014 10:42 PM, Eric Smith wrote:

 There are lots of Asteroid servers in the list of quickplay servers. I'm
 not sure why you aren't seeing them.

 -Eric


 -Original Message-
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
 hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ross Bemrose
 Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 7:38 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; 'hlds_linux@list.
 valvesoftware.com'
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released

 Is there a reason rd_asteroid isn't appearing in the Beta Quickplay?
 You can only find servers with pl_cactuscanyon on it.

 On 7/8/2014 6:55 PM, Eric Smith wrote:

 We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are
 below. The new version number is 2314660.

 -Eric

 -

 - Added Mann Co. Beta Maps - Early Access program
 - Added 2 new beta maps: RD_Asteroid and PL_CactusCanyon
 - Beta maps can be accessed via the quickplay menu by clicking
 the Play Beta Maps option
 - Added a new startup music track from Expiration Date
 - Added UGC Highlander Season 12, UGC 6v6 Season 14, UGC 4v4 Season 1,
 and Tumblr Vs Reddit Season 2 medals
 - Fixed the server browser not properly filtering for the US - East
 region when selected
 - Fixed a bug where players that are taunting would not use the correct
 animation
 - Fixed Australium weapons using the incorrect arm skin for the Blue team
 - Fixed Mutated Milk not being a valid item for the Scout's Special
 Delivery item set
 - Fixed The Stealth Steeler not using the correct team materials
 - Fixed some festive weapons using the lowest LOD for the first person
 view
 - Minigun: Winding up via secondary attack now counts toward reducing
 the one-second accuracy penalty
 - Updated the equip_regions for The Southie Shinobi, The Chronomancer,
 and The Pencil Pusher
 - Updated the localization files
 - Updated The Towering Pillar of Summer Shades
 - Fixed not using the correct team materials
 - Updated to be paintable

 - Reminder - Bread Boxes can no longer be crafted after tomorrow (July
 9th)
 - Craft them via the crafting system (Items-Crafting-Special
 Blueprint-Fabricate Bread Box)




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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[N-Gon]

I agree with Lucas on bringing in Swiftwater; It's a map that's been tested
and approved and I'm sure the community at large would love to pub on it.
On another note, I can already envision the many changes coming to
CactusCanyon...It's surprisingly easy to hold either of the teams in spawn,
many odd flank routes that arent really taking save for a spy running for
his life, plus I've seen first hand the cart breaking on Stage1. Cart got
stuck on the cap point but the round wouldn't end nor would the timer go
down, so blue had red team stuck in spawn for a good twenty minutes and it
took a good number of Restart Game vote attempts before enough votes
finally went through.
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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[ics]

There's 2 reasons:

1. Valve has not tested it.
2. Valve has tested it and seen it unfit.

-ics

Lucas Wagner kirjoitti:
I know this isn't the place for feature requests, but I have to ask a 
question that seems obvious in the light of the recent beta map release:


Why isn't pl_swiftwater in the standard map distribution?  It's been 
thoroughly tested and another good PL map would be well received in 
the community at least in my opinion.  There has to be a reason 
considering process and snakewater are all former competitive maps now 
in the standard distribution, why not swiftwater?



On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Ross Bemrose rbemr...@gmail.com 
mailto:rbemr...@gmail.com wrote:


All I know is on East Coast US, all I'm seeing for Shows Servers
are CactusCanyon servers... Valve Beta srcds146 -srcds150 with
various numbers after them.

As Frank pointed out, having a Community Server option might fix
that, but it's disabled for the Beta maps.


On 7/8/2014 10:42 PM, Eric Smith wrote:

There are lots of Asteroid servers in the list of quickplay
servers. I'm not sure why you aren't seeing them.

-Eric


-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf
Of Ross Bemrose
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 7:38 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list;
'hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com
mailto:hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com'
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released

Is there a reason rd_asteroid isn't appearing in the Beta
Quickplay?
You can only find servers with pl_cactuscanyon on it.

On 7/8/2014 6:55 PM, Eric Smith wrote:

We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for
the update are below. The new version number is 2314660.

-Eric

-

- Added Mann Co. Beta Maps - Early Access program
- Added 2 new beta maps: RD_Asteroid and
PL_CactusCanyon
- Beta maps can be accessed via the quickplay menu
by clicking the Play Beta Maps option
- Added a new startup music track from Expiration Date
- Added UGC Highlander Season 12, UGC 6v6 Season 14, UGC
4v4 Season 1, and Tumblr Vs Reddit Season 2 medals
- Fixed the server browser not properly filtering for the
US - East region when selected
- Fixed a bug where players that are taunting would not
use the correct animation
- Fixed Australium weapons using the incorrect arm skin
for the Blue team
- Fixed Mutated Milk not being a valid item for the
Scout's Special Delivery item set
- Fixed The Stealth Steeler not using the correct team
materials
- Fixed some festive weapons using the lowest LOD for the
first person view
- Minigun: Winding up via secondary attack now counts
toward reducing the one-second accuracy penalty
- Updated the equip_regions for The Southie Shinobi, The
Chronomancer, and The Pencil Pusher
- Updated the localization files
- Updated The Towering Pillar of Summer Shades
- Fixed not using the correct team materials
- Updated to be paintable

- Reminder - Bread Boxes can no longer be crafted after
tomorrow (July 9th)
- Craft them via the crafting system
(Items-Crafting-Special Blueprint-Fabricate Bread Box)




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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Ross Bemrose]

Which version of Swiftwater?

Part of Swiftwater's problem is that the author keeps changing it.  Even
now, there are two major versions currently in circulation:
pl_swiftwater_final_rc (the public version) and pl_swiftwater_ugc (the comp
Highlander version).

Also, keep in mind that there were twenty final release candidates before
the current rc... swiftwater has been in almost perpetual beta for years.

Lastly, what's the deal with only a single resupply cabinet in RED's huge
spawn room?


On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Lucas Wagner lgwag...@gmail.com wrote:

 My response:

 1.  They should test it.
 2.  If they tested it and seen it unfit perhaps they should also retest
 dustbowl.


 On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 9:00 AM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:

 There's 2 reasons:

 1. Valve has not tested it.
 2. Valve has tested it and seen it unfit.

 -ics

 Lucas Wagner kirjoitti:

 I know this isn't the place for feature requests, but I have to ask a
 question that seems obvious in the light of the recent beta map release:

 Why isn't pl_swiftwater in the standard map distribution?  It's been
 thoroughly tested and another good PL map would be well received in the
 community at least in my opinion.  There has to be a reason considering
 process and snakewater are all former competitive maps now in the standard
 distribution, why not swiftwater?


 On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Ross Bemrose rbemr...@gmail.com
 mailto:rbemr...@gmail.com wrote:

 All I know is on East Coast US, all I'm seeing for Shows Servers
 are CactusCanyon servers... Valve Beta srcds146 -srcds150 with
 various numbers after them.

 As Frank pointed out, having a Community Server option might fix
 that, but it's disabled for the Beta maps.


 On 7/8/2014 10:42 PM, Eric Smith wrote:

 There are lots of Asteroid servers in the list of quickplay
 servers. I'm not sure why you aren't seeing them.

 -Eric


 -Original Message-
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf
 Of Ross Bemrose
 Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 7:38 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list;
 'hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com
 mailto:hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com'
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released

 Is there a reason rd_asteroid isn't appearing in the Beta
 Quickplay?
 You can only find servers with pl_cactuscanyon on it.

 On 7/8/2014 6:55 PM, Eric Smith wrote:

 We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for
 the update are below. The new version number is 2314660.

 -Eric

 -

 - Added Mann Co. Beta Maps - Early Access program
 - Added 2 new beta maps: RD_Asteroid and
 PL_CactusCanyon
 - Beta maps can be accessed via the quickplay menu
 by clicking the Play Beta Maps option
 - Added a new startup music track from Expiration Date
 - Added UGC Highlander Season 12, UGC 6v6 Season 14, UGC
 4v4 Season 1, and Tumblr Vs Reddit Season 2 medals
 - Fixed the server browser not properly filtering for the
 US - East region when selected
 - Fixed a bug where players that are taunting would not
 use the correct animation
 - Fixed Australium weapons using the incorrect arm skin
 for the Blue team
 - Fixed Mutated Milk not being a valid item for the
 Scout's Special Delivery item set
 - Fixed The Stealth Steeler not using the correct team
 materials
 - Fixed some festive weapons using the lowest LOD for the
 first person view
 - Minigun: Winding up via secondary attack now counts
 toward reducing the one-second accuracy penalty
 - Updated the equip_regions for The Southie Shinobi, The
 Chronomancer, and The Pencil Pusher
 - Updated the localization files
 - Updated The Towering Pillar of Summer Shades
 - Fixed not using the correct team materials
 - Updated to be paintable

 - Reminder - Bread Boxes can no longer be crafted after
 tomorrow (July 9th)
 - Craft them via the crafting system
 (Items-Crafting-Special Blueprint-Fabricate Bread Box)




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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Lucas Wagner]

My response:

1.  They should test it.
2.  If they tested it and seen it unfit perhaps they should also retest
dustbowl.


On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 9:00 AM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:

 There's 2 reasons:

 1. Valve has not tested it.
 2. Valve has tested it and seen it unfit.

 -ics

 Lucas Wagner kirjoitti:

 I know this isn't the place for feature requests, but I have to ask a
 question that seems obvious in the light of the recent beta map release:

 Why isn't pl_swiftwater in the standard map distribution?  It's been
 thoroughly tested and another good PL map would be well received in the
 community at least in my opinion.  There has to be a reason considering
 process and snakewater are all former competitive maps now in the standard
 distribution, why not swiftwater?


 On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Ross Bemrose rbemr...@gmail.com mailto:
 rbemr...@gmail.com wrote:

 All I know is on East Coast US, all I'm seeing for Shows Servers
 are CactusCanyon servers... Valve Beta srcds146 -srcds150 with
 various numbers after them.

 As Frank pointed out, having a Community Server option might fix
 that, but it's disabled for the Beta maps.


 On 7/8/2014 10:42 PM, Eric Smith wrote:

 There are lots of Asteroid servers in the list of quickplay
 servers. I'm not sure why you aren't seeing them.

 -Eric


 -Original Message-
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf
 Of Ross Bemrose
 Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 7:38 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list;
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 mailto:hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com'
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released

 Is there a reason rd_asteroid isn't appearing in the Beta
 Quickplay?
 You can only find servers with pl_cactuscanyon on it.

 On 7/8/2014 6:55 PM, Eric Smith wrote:

 We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for
 the update are below. The new version number is 2314660.

 -Eric

 -

 - Added Mann Co. Beta Maps - Early Access program
 - Added 2 new beta maps: RD_Asteroid and
 PL_CactusCanyon
 - Beta maps can be accessed via the quickplay menu
 by clicking the Play Beta Maps option
 - Added a new startup music track from Expiration Date
 - Added UGC Highlander Season 12, UGC 6v6 Season 14, UGC
 4v4 Season 1, and Tumblr Vs Reddit Season 2 medals
 - Fixed the server browser not properly filtering for the
 US - East region when selected
 - Fixed a bug where players that are taunting would not
 use the correct animation
 - Fixed Australium weapons using the incorrect arm skin
 for the Blue team
 - Fixed Mutated Milk not being a valid item for the
 Scout's Special Delivery item set
 - Fixed The Stealth Steeler not using the correct team
 materials
 - Fixed some festive weapons using the lowest LOD for the
 first person view
 - Minigun: Winding up via secondary attack now counts
 toward reducing the one-second accuracy penalty
 - Updated the equip_regions for The Southie Shinobi, The
 Chronomancer, and The Pencil Pusher
 - Updated the localization files
 - Updated The Towering Pillar of Summer Shades
 - Fixed not using the correct team materials
 - Updated to be paintable

 - Reminder - Bread Boxes can no longer be crafted after
 tomorrow (July 9th)
 - Craft them via the crafting system
 (Items-Crafting-Special Blueprint-Fabricate Bread Box)




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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[ics]

Don't forget Ross that the map started as pl_swift before swiftwater and 
there indeed has been numerous versions of it.


If and when they test a map, they will make a thorough test on it. I 
asked once if they could test one of my maps - and they did. Took them 
nearly 2 months to get to it due to workload but eventually, i got the 
feedback that i asked for. I can't be 100% certain on this but i think 
swiftwater has some of the flaws that mine had and they might have 
tested it before and rejected it due to that.


But they don't really talk about these things.

-ics

Ross Bemrose kirjoitti:

Which version of Swiftwater?

Part of Swiftwater's problem is that the author keeps changing it.  
Even now, there are two major versions currently in circulation: 
pl_swiftwater_final_rc (the public version) and pl_swiftwater_ugc (the 
comp Highlander version).


Also, keep in mind that there were twenty final release candidates 
before the current rc... swiftwater has been in almost perpetual beta 
for years.


Lastly, what's the deal with only a single resupply cabinet in RED's 
huge spawn room?



On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Lucas Wagner lgwag...@gmail.com 
mailto:lgwag...@gmail.com wrote:


My response:

1.  They should test it.
2.  If they tested it and seen it unfit perhaps they should also
retest dustbowl.


On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 9:00 AM, ics i...@ics-base.net
mailto:i...@ics-base.net wrote:

There's 2 reasons:

1. Valve has not tested it.
2. Valve has tested it and seen it unfit.

-ics

Lucas Wagner kirjoitti:

I know this isn't the place for feature requests, but I
have to ask a question that seems obvious in the light of
the recent beta map release:

Why isn't pl_swiftwater in the standard map distribution?
 It's been thoroughly tested and another good PL map would
be well received in the community at least in my opinion.
 There has to be a reason considering process and
snakewater are all former competitive maps now in the
standard distribution, why not swiftwater?


On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Ross Bemrose
rbemr...@gmail.com mailto:rbemr...@gmail.com
mailto:rbemr...@gmail.com mailto:rbemr...@gmail.com
wrote:

All I know is on East Coast US, all I'm seeing for
Shows Servers
are CactusCanyon servers... Valve Beta srcds146
-srcds150 with
various numbers after them.

As Frank pointed out, having a Community Server option
might fix
that, but it's disabled for the Beta maps.


On 7/8/2014 10:42 PM, Eric Smith wrote:

There are lots of Asteroid servers in the list of
quickplay
servers. I'm not sure why you aren't seeing them.

-Eric


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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Mandatory TF2
update released

Is there a reason rd_asteroid isn't appearing in
the Beta
Quickplay?
You can only find servers with pl_cactuscanyon on it.

On 7/8/2014 6:55 PM, Eric Smith wrote:

We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The
notes for
the update are below. The new version number
is 2314660.

-Eric

-

- Added Mann Co. Beta Maps - Early Access program
- Added 2 new beta maps: RD_Asteroid and
PL_CactusCanyon
- Beta maps can be accessed via the
quickplay menu
by clicking the Play Beta Maps option
- Added a new 

Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Eric Smith]

There are lots of Asteroid servers in the list of quickplay servers. I'm not 
sure why you aren't seeing them.

-Eric


-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ross Bemrose
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 7:38 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; 
'hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com'
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released

Is there a reason rd_asteroid isn't appearing in the Beta Quickplay?  
You can only find servers with pl_cactuscanyon on it.

On 7/8/2014 6:55 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
 We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are 
 below. The new version number is 2314660.

 -Eric

 -

 - Added Mann Co. Beta Maps - Early Access program
   - Added 2 new beta maps: RD_Asteroid and PL_CactusCanyon
   - Beta maps can be accessed via the quickplay menu by clicking the Play 
 Beta Maps option
 - Added a new startup music track from Expiration Date
 - Added UGC Highlander Season 12, UGC 6v6 Season 14, UGC 4v4 Season 1, and 
 Tumblr Vs Reddit Season 2 medals
 - Fixed the server browser not properly filtering for the US - East region 
 when selected
 - Fixed a bug where players that are taunting would not use the correct 
 animation
 - Fixed Australium weapons using the incorrect arm skin for the Blue team
 - Fixed Mutated Milk not being a valid item for the Scout's Special Delivery 
 item set
 - Fixed The Stealth Steeler not using the correct team materials
 - Fixed some festive weapons using the lowest LOD for the first person view
 - Minigun: Winding up via secondary attack now counts toward reducing the 
 one-second accuracy penalty
 - Updated the equip_regions for The Southie Shinobi, The Chronomancer, and 
 The Pencil Pusher
 - Updated the localization files
 - Updated The Towering Pillar of Summer Shades
   - Fixed not using the correct team materials
   - Updated to be paintable

 - Reminder - Bread Boxes can no longer be crafted after tomorrow (July 9th)
   - Craft them via the crafting system (Items-Crafting-Special 
 Blueprint-Fabricate Bread Box)




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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Ross Bemrose]

All I know is on East Coast US, all I'm seeing for Shows Servers are 
CactusCanyon servers... Valve Beta srcds146 -srcds150 with various 
numbers after them.


As Frank pointed out, having a Community Server option might fix that, 
but it's disabled for the Beta maps.


On 7/8/2014 10:42 PM, Eric Smith wrote:

There are lots of Asteroid servers in the list of quickplay servers. I'm not 
sure why you aren't seeing them.

-Eric


-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ross Bemrose
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 7:38 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; 
'hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com'
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released

Is there a reason rd_asteroid isn't appearing in the Beta Quickplay?
You can only find servers with pl_cactuscanyon on it.

On 7/8/2014 6:55 PM, Eric Smith wrote:

We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are below. 
The new version number is 2314660.

-Eric

-

- Added Mann Co. Beta Maps - Early Access program
- Added 2 new beta maps: RD_Asteroid and PL_CactusCanyon
- Beta maps can be accessed via the quickplay menu by clicking the Play 
Beta Maps option
- Added a new startup music track from Expiration Date
- Added UGC Highlander Season 12, UGC 6v6 Season 14, UGC 4v4 Season 1, and 
Tumblr Vs Reddit Season 2 medals
- Fixed the server browser not properly filtering for the US - East region 
when selected
- Fixed a bug where players that are taunting would not use the correct 
animation
- Fixed Australium weapons using the incorrect arm skin for the Blue team
- Fixed Mutated Milk not being a valid item for the Scout's Special Delivery 
item set
- Fixed The Stealth Steeler not using the correct team materials
- Fixed some festive weapons using the lowest LOD for the first person view
- Minigun: Winding up via secondary attack now counts toward reducing the 
one-second accuracy penalty
- Updated the equip_regions for The Southie Shinobi, The Chronomancer, and The 
Pencil Pusher
- Updated the localization files
- Updated The Towering Pillar of Summer Shades
- Fixed not using the correct team materials
- Updated to be paintable

- Reminder - Bread Boxes can no longer be crafted after tomorrow (July 9th)
- Craft them via the crafting system (Items-Crafting-Special 
Blueprint-Fabricate Bread Box)




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[hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released (2015-06-26) = more client-side issues?

[Weasels Lair]

Hmmm.. trying to figure-out if this is just my TF2 server(s), or something
bigger.
But, ever since today's update - I'm a getting a lot of issues with client
connections timing-out, etc.
The server never crashes - it just keeps running.
But the clients get the connection problem warning in the upper-right for
several seconds (5-20), then (mostly) get back in without having to
disconnect/reconnect.

Anybody else experiencing a lot of this since today's update?

PS: For me this is under Linux (Debian).



[hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released
Eric Smith Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:22:25 -0700

We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are
below.
The new version number is 2298883.

-Eric

-
- Added a new startup music track from Expiration Date
- Fixed a client crash related to the B.A.S.E. Jumper
- Fixed an exploit related to the B.A.S.E. Jumper and supply cabinets
- Updated the B.A.S.E. Jumper backpack to use an open model when the
parachute
is deployed
- Fixed a few crates not displaying which Unusual Series they can
potentially
output
- Fixed a client crash caused by applying a tool to an empty backpack slot
- Removed the shot effect for The Classic in DirectX 8
- Updated the name of The Senguko Scorcher to be The Sengoku Scorcher
- Updated the Summer Starter Kit and Summer Adventure Pack to be marketable
- Updated the localization files
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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[ced lo]

I noticed it on a start of round in Arena last night. 

On 29 players, 22 crashed as soon as I Conga taunted.

From: scavabu...@tin.it
To: uniac...@yahoo.ca; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 16:35:39 +0200
Subject: Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

how about this error ? overflowed reliable buffer  from Conga taunt , if is 
played too much all client crash.  
On 6/20/2014 7:28 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
 We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are 
 below. The new version number is 2292213.

 -Eric

 -

 - Fixed a client crash related to the B.A.S.E. Jumper
 - Updated the prioritization method used when choosing which partner taunt to 
 join such that players under the crosshair will have the highest priority.
 - Fixed The Classic scope not being drawn correctly in DirectX 8
 - Fixed the Tide Turner and Chargin' Targe doing impact damage at any range
 - Fixed the Tide Turner refilling the Charge meter on any decapitation
 - Updated the B.A.S.E. Jumper to prevent buying unusable upgrades in Mann vs. 
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 - Fixed Lugermorph animations


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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Nicola]

how about this error ? overflowed reliable buffer  from Conga taunt , if is
played too much all client crash.

 

 


On 6/20/2014 7:28 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
 We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are
below. The new version number is 2292213.

 -Eric

 -

 - Fixed a client crash related to the B.A.S.E. Jumper
 - Updated the prioritization method used when choosing which partner taunt
to join such that players under the crosshair will have the highest
priority.
 - Fixed The Classic scope not being drawn correctly in DirectX 8
 - Fixed the Tide Turner and Chargin' Targe doing impact damage at any
range
 - Fixed the Tide Turner refilling the Charge meter on any decapitation
 - Updated the B.A.S.E. Jumper to prevent buying unusable upgrades in Mann
vs. Machine
 - Fixed Lugermorph animations


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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Albert Davis]

apparently, on my server, SM is banning people using the conga?


On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Nicola scavabu...@tin.it wrote:

 how about this error ? *overflowed reliable buffer * from Conga taunt ,
 if is played too much all client crash.






 On 6/20/2014 7:28 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
  We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are
 below. The new version number is 2292213.
 
  -Eric
 
  -
 
  - Fixed a client crash related to the B.A.S.E. Jumper
  - Updated the prioritization method used when choosing which partner
 taunt to join such that players under the crosshair will have the highest
 priority.
  - Fixed The Classic scope not being drawn correctly in DirectX 8
  - Fixed the Tide Turner and Chargin' Targe doing impact damage at any
 range
  - Fixed the Tide Turner refilling the Charge meter on any decapitation
  - Updated the B.A.S.E. Jumper to prevent buying unusable upgrades in
 Mann vs. Machine
  - Fixed Lugermorph animations
 
 
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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Ross Bemrose]

SourceMod Anti-Cheat is known to do that.

On 6/21/2014 11:31 AM, Albert Davis wrote:

apparently, on my server, SM is banning people using the conga?


On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Nicola scavabu...@tin.it 
mailto:scavabu...@tin.it wrote:


how about this error ? *overflowed reliable buffer * from Conga
taunt , if is played too much all client crash.


On 6/20/2014 7:28 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
 We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the
update are below. The new version number is 2292213.

 -Eric

 -

 - Fixed a client crash related to the B.A.S.E. Jumper
 - Updated the prioritization method used when choosing which
partner taunt to join such that players under the crosshair will
have the highest priority.
 - Fixed The Classic scope not being drawn correctly in DirectX 8
 - Fixed the Tide Turner and Chargin' Targe doing impact damage
at any range
 - Fixed the Tide Turner refilling the Charge meter on any
decapitation
 - Updated the B.A.S.E. Jumper to prevent buying unusable
upgrades in Mann vs. Machine
 - Fixed Lugermorph animations


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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Gamers Exile]

It's not source mod itself it's the smac_eyetest module and it's been noted on the forums.   Sent Via Pigeon From: Albert DavisSent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 9:33 AMTo: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing listReply To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing listSubject: Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update releasedapparently, on my server, SM is banning people using the conga?On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Nicola scavabu...@tin.it wrote:

how about this error ? overflowed reliable buffer from Conga taunt , if is played too much all client crash.



On 6/20/2014 7:28 PM, Eric Smith wrote:

 We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are below. The new version number is 2292213.

 -Eric - - Fixed a client crash related to the B.A.S.E. Jumper - Updated the prioritization method used when choosing which partner taunt to join such that players under the crosshair will have the highest priority.

 - Fixed The Classic scope not being drawn correctly in DirectX 8 - Fixed the Tide Turner and Chargin' Targe doing impact damage at any range - Fixed the Tide Turner refilling the Charge meter on any decapitation

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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Valentin G.]

The aimbot and eyetest modules of SMAC are currently broken. Don't use them.

On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Albert Davis davis.alb...@gmail.com wrote:
 apparently, on my server, SM is banning people using the conga?


 On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Nicola scavabu...@tin.it wrote:

 how about this error ? overflowed reliable buffer  from Conga taunt , if
 is played too much all client crash.






 On 6/20/2014 7:28 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
  We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are
  below. The new version number is 2292213.
 
  -Eric
 
  -
 
  - Fixed a client crash related to the B.A.S.E. Jumper
  - Updated the prioritization method used when choosing which partner
  taunt to join such that players under the crosshair will have the highest
  priority.
  - Fixed The Classic scope not being drawn correctly in DirectX 8
  - Fixed the Tide Turner and Chargin' Targe doing impact damage at any
  range
  - Fixed the Tide Turner refilling the Charge meter on any decapitation
  - Updated the B.A.S.E. Jumper to prevent buying unusable upgrades in
  Mann vs. Machine
  - Fixed Lugermorph animations
 
 
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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Albert Davis]

Ok, they have been renamed -_-



On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Valentin G. nextra...@gmail.com wrote:

 The aimbot and eyetest modules of SMAC are currently broken. Don't use
 them.

 On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Albert Davis davis.alb...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  apparently, on my server, SM is banning people using the conga?
 
 
  On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Nicola scavabu...@tin.it wrote:
 
  how about this error ? overflowed reliable buffer  from Conga taunt , if
  is played too much all client crash.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On 6/20/2014 7:28 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
   We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update
 are
   below. The new version number is 2292213.
  
   -Eric
  
   -
  
   - Fixed a client crash related to the B.A.S.E. Jumper
   - Updated the prioritization method used when choosing which partner
   taunt to join such that players under the crosshair will have the
 highest
   priority.
   - Fixed The Classic scope not being drawn correctly in DirectX 8
   - Fixed the Tide Turner and Chargin' Targe doing impact damage at any
   range
   - Fixed the Tide Turner refilling the Charge meter on any decapitation
   - Updated the B.A.S.E. Jumper to prevent buying unusable upgrades in
   Mann vs. Machine
   - Fixed Lugermorph animations
  
  
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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Peter Jerde]

On Jun 21, 2014, at 10:34, Valentin G. nextra...@gmail.com wrote:

 The aimbot and eyetest modules of SMAC are currently broken. Don't use them.

Code has been posted on allied modders to fix the eyetest module to check for 
that taunt:

https://forums.alliedmods.net/showpost.php?p=2154239postcount=21

It has to be compiled against the latest snapshot of sourcemod, and I haven't 
actually gone and gotten that and tested it yet. But apparently that does fix 
the issue.

 - Peter
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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Ross Bemrose]

Kill icons and hitsounds don't appear to be working on the servers I'm 
on.  Is anyone else seeing this?


On 6/20/2014 7:28 PM, Eric Smith wrote:

We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are below. 
The new version number is 2292213.

-Eric

-

- Fixed a client crash related to the B.A.S.E. Jumper
- Updated the prioritization method used when choosing which partner taunt to 
join such that players under the crosshair will have the highest priority.
- Fixed The Classic scope not being drawn correctly in DirectX 8
- Fixed the Tide Turner and Chargin' Targe doing impact damage at any range
- Fixed the Tide Turner refilling the Charge meter on any decapitation
- Updated the B.A.S.E. Jumper to prevent buying unusable upgrades in Mann vs. 
Machine
- Fixed Lugermorph animations


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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Bjorn Wielens]

working fine on ours. 




 From: Ross Bemrose rbemr...@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released
 

Kill icons and hitsounds don't appear to be working on the servers I'm 
on.  Is anyone else seeing this?

On 6/20/2014 7:28 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
 We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are 
 below. The new version number is 2292213.

 -Eric

 -

 - Fixed a client crash related to the B.A.S.E. Jumper
 - Updated the prioritization method used when choosing which partner taunt to 
 join such that players under the crosshair will have the highest priority.
 - Fixed The Classic scope not being drawn correctly in DirectX 8
 - Fixed the Tide Turner and Chargin' Targe doing impact damage at any range
 - Fixed the Tide Turner refilling the Charge meter on any decapitation
 - Updated the B.A.S.E. Jumper to prevent buying unusable upgrades in Mann vs. 
 Machine
 - Fixed Lugermorph animations


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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Ross Bemrose]

Weird thing is, it started working fine after the server crashed and 
auto-restarted.


On 6/20/2014 8:58 PM, Bjorn Wielens wrote:

working fine on ours.


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*Subject:* Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

Kill icons and hitsounds don't appear to be working on the servers I'm
on.  Is anyone else seeing this?

On 6/20/2014 7:28 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
 We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update 
are below. The new version number is 2292213.


 -Eric

 -

 - Fixed a client crash related to the B.A.S.E. Jumper
 - Updated the prioritization method used when choosing which partner 
taunt to join such that players under the crosshair will have the 
highest priority.

 - Fixed The Classic scope not being drawn correctly in DirectX 8
 - Fixed the Tide Turner and Chargin' Targe doing impact damage at 
any range

 - Fixed the Tide Turner refilling the Charge meter on any decapitation
 - Updated the B.A.S.E. Jumper to prevent buying unusable upgrades in 
Mann vs. Machine

 - Fixed Lugermorph animations


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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Eric Smith]

We released an optional update last night to fix this issue.  If you sync your 
servers again it should be fixed.

-Eric




On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:55 AM, Saint K. sai...@specialattack.net wrote:

 For some reason we can't use canteens anymore on our MVM servers at 
 mvm_ghost_town
 
 Saint K.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
 [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
 Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 10:43 PM
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 Subject: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released
 
 We've released a mandatory TF2 update. The notes for the update are below. 
 The new version is 1982480.
 
 -Eric
 
 --
 
 - Fixed a dedicated server crash related to players becoming ghosts in hell
 - Fixed a dedicated server crash related to spellbooks and switching weapons
 - Updated materials for the following items: Caffeine Cooler, Tartan Spartan, 
 Carrion Companion, Sackcloth Spook, and the Pin Pals
 
 
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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Brian]

 - Opened the windows around the center point

Thank you very much.


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Eric Smith er...@valvesoftware.comwrote:

 We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are
 below. The new version is 1844935.

 -Eric

 --

 - Ended the Mann Co. Store summer sale
 - The Summer Claim check is now a rare drop
 - Medics using the Quick-Fix will now take jump force from Pyros using the
 Detonator to explosive jump
 - Fixed a client crash related to missing particle systems
 - Fixed a server crash when entering Sudden Death mode with only melee
 weapons
 - Fixed players sometimes being damaged by doors when they are closing
 - Fixed soccer/beach balls sometimes blocking Payload carts and trains
 - Fixed paint can icons not showing the Red/Blue colors correctly
 - Fixed the Loch-n-Load gun sight not drawing in the correct place
 - Fixed the Bonk Boy model using the incorrect normals
 - Updated Cp_Badlands and Koth_Badlands
- Opened the windows around the center point
- Smoothed player clipping around doorways

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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Ryan Stecker]

Ah, I had only checked for the existence of sv_compressfragments.

For what it's worth in my test of the prerelease build, the default convars
didn't help to alleviate any issues. Only after I set sv_compressfragments
to 0 did I see a visible improvement in performance. In fact the long
frames had virtually disappeared other than the occasional one, but it
performed much better than before.

Hopefully the new compression scheme will be performant enough to not
require disabling entirely.


On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Fletcher Dunn
fletch...@valvesoftware.comwrote:

 sv_compressstringtablebaselines should still be present in this build, and
 it is defaulted to false.  The baselines are not compressed at that stage,
 instead we just compress them if desired like any other network data at
 either the fragment or packet stage.

 You might try adjusting this convar and see if it makes any difference.
  In my tests it did not, but I would be interested in any real world data
 on that question.

 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
 hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Stecker
 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 11:25 AM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released

 Great, thanks Fletch!
 Will definitely be on the lookout for any perf issues with these changes.

 On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Fletcher Dunn 
 fletch...@valvesoftware.commailto:fletch...@valvesoftware.com wrote:
 A note regarding the CPU spikes:

 I would encourage server operators to revert any changes made to disable
 compression, set all such convars to their default values, and re-evaluate
 performance and bandwidth.  I believe that the switch to a realtime
 compression library will fix the CPU spikes while getting the reduction in
 bandwidth that the compression was intended to  achieve.

 The sv_compressfragments convar has been removed.  You can get the same
 functionality simply by setting net_compresspackets_minsize to a large
 value.

 You might experiment with net_compresspackets_minsize to see if a larger
 or smaller value drastically effects performance and bandwidth.

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.commailto:
 hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
 hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.commailto:
 hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 11:09 AM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated
 Linux server mailing list; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.commailto:
 hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
 Subject: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

 We've released a mandatory update for Team Fortress 2. The notes for the
 update are below.

 -Eric

 ==

 Source Engine Changes
 - Fixed server CPU spikes caused by compression of string tables and
 packets.
 - Added sv_netspike, sv_netspike_sendtime_ms, and sv_netspike_output
 convars for investigating server performance
 - net_compresspackets_minsize default value increased to 1024.  This
 convar now also determines the threshold to determine when a fragment
 (logical game network message, before being broken up into network packets)
 is compressed.
 - Added vprof_vtrace and vprof_report_oninterval convars, and tweaked
 vprof_dump_spikes and vprof_dump_oninterval to reduce output

 Team Fortress 2
 - Added the Robotic Boogaloo community update:
 http://www.teamfortress.com/roboticboogaloo/
 - Fixed a chat exploit that would cause other clients to timeout from
 dedicated servers
 - Updated the Mann Co. Store
- Added RoboCrate Keys
- Added A Random RoboKey Gift
- Added Pile of RoboKey Gifts
- Backpack Expanders on sale at 80% off
 - Updated the localization files


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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Albert Davis]

Question on creating a bat file to update my dedicated server :

steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir ../csgo_ds +app_update
740 validate +quit

Do i need to use the force install part?

I am thinking this should work?

steamcmd +login anonymous +app_update 232250 validate +quit





On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Ryan Stecker voidedwea...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ah, I had only checked for the existence of sv_compressfragments.

 For what it's worth in my test of the prerelease build, the default
 convars didn't help to alleviate any issues. Only after I set
 sv_compressfragments to 0 did I see a visible improvement in performance.
 In fact the long frames had virtually disappeared other than the occasional
 one, but it performed much better than before.

 Hopefully the new compression scheme will be performant enough to not
 require disabling entirely.


 On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Fletcher Dunn 
 fletch...@valvesoftware.com wrote:

 sv_compressstringtablebaselines should still be present in this build,
 and it is defaulted to false.  The baselines are not compressed at that
 stage, instead we just compress them if desired like any other network data
 at either the fragment or packet stage.

 You might try adjusting this convar and see if it makes any difference.
  In my tests it did not, but I would be interested in any real world data
 on that question.

 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
 hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Stecker
 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 11:25 AM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released

 Great, thanks Fletch!
 Will definitely be on the lookout for any perf issues with these changes.

 On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Fletcher Dunn 
 fletch...@valvesoftware.commailto:fletch...@valvesoftware.com wrote:
 A note regarding the CPU spikes:

 I would encourage server operators to revert any changes made to disable
 compression, set all such convars to their default values, and re-evaluate
 performance and bandwidth.  I believe that the switch to a realtime
 compression library will fix the CPU spikes while getting the reduction in
 bandwidth that the compression was intended to  achieve.

 The sv_compressfragments convar has been removed.  You can get the same
 functionality simply by setting net_compresspackets_minsize to a large
 value.

 You might experiment with net_compresspackets_minsize to see if a larger
 or smaller value drastically effects performance and bandwidth.

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.commailto:
 hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
 hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.commailto:
 hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 11:09 AM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated
 Linux server mailing list; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.commailto:
 hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
 Subject: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

 We've released a mandatory update for Team Fortress 2. The notes for the
 update are below.

 -Eric

 ==

 Source Engine Changes
 - Fixed server CPU spikes caused by compression of string tables and
 packets.
 - Added sv_netspike, sv_netspike_sendtime_ms, and sv_netspike_output
 convars for investigating server performance
 - net_compresspackets_minsize default value increased to 1024.  This
 convar now also determines the threshold to determine when a fragment
 (logical game network message, before being broken up into network packets)
 is compressed.
 - Added vprof_vtrace and vprof_report_oninterval convars, and tweaked
 vprof_dump_spikes and vprof_dump_oninterval to reduce output

 Team Fortress 2
 - Added the Robotic Boogaloo community update:
 http://www.teamfortress.com/roboticboogaloo/
 - Fixed a chat exploit that would cause other clients to timeout from
 dedicated servers
 - Updated the Mann Co. Store
- Added RoboCrate Keys
- Added A Random RoboKey Gift
- Added Pile of RoboKey Gifts
- Backpack Expanders on sale at 80% off
 - Updated the localization files


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[Albert Davis]

looks to be working...


On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Albert Davis davis.alb...@gmail.comwrote:

 Question on creating a bat file to update my dedicated server :

 steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir ../csgo_ds +app_update 740 
 validate +quit

 Do i need to use the force install part?

 I am thinking this should work?

 steamcmd +login anonymous +app_update 232250 validate +quit





 On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Ryan Stecker voidedwea...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ah, I had only checked for the existence of sv_compressfragments.

 For what it's worth in my test of the prerelease build, the default
 convars didn't help to alleviate any issues. Only after I set
 sv_compressfragments to 0 did I see a visible improvement in performance.
 In fact the long frames had virtually disappeared other than the occasional
 one, but it performed much better than before.

 Hopefully the new compression scheme will be performant enough to not
 require disabling entirely.


 On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Fletcher Dunn 
 fletch...@valvesoftware.com wrote:

 sv_compressstringtablebaselines should still be present in this build,
 and it is defaulted to false.  The baselines are not compressed at that
 stage, instead we just compress them if desired like any other network data
 at either the fragment or packet stage.

 You might try adjusting this convar and see if it makes any difference.
  In my tests it did not, but I would be interested in any real world data
 on that question.

 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
 hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Stecker
 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 11:25 AM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released

 Great, thanks Fletch!
 Will definitely be on the lookout for any perf issues with these changes.

 On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Fletcher Dunn 
 fletch...@valvesoftware.commailto:fletch...@valvesoftware.com wrote:
 A note regarding the CPU spikes:

 I would encourage server operators to revert any changes made to disable
 compression, set all such convars to their default values, and re-evaluate
 performance and bandwidth.  I believe that the switch to a realtime
 compression library will fix the CPU spikes while getting the reduction in
 bandwidth that the compression was intended to  achieve.

 The sv_compressfragments convar has been removed.  You can get the same
 functionality simply by setting net_compresspackets_minsize to a large
 value.

 You might experiment with net_compresspackets_minsize to see if a larger
 or smaller value drastically effects performance and bandwidth.

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.commailto:
 hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
 hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.commailto:
 hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 11:09 AM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated
 Linux server mailing list; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.commailto:
 hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
 Subject: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

 We've released a mandatory update for Team Fortress 2. The notes for the
 update are below.

 -Eric

 ==

 Source Engine Changes
 - Fixed server CPU spikes caused by compression of string tables and
 packets.
 - Added sv_netspike, sv_netspike_sendtime_ms, and sv_netspike_output
 convars for investigating server performance
 - net_compresspackets_minsize default value increased to 1024.  This
 convar now also determines the threshold to determine when a fragment
 (logical game network message, before being broken up into network packets)
 is compressed.
 - Added vprof_vtrace and vprof_report_oninterval convars, and tweaked
 vprof_dump_spikes and vprof_dump_oninterval to reduce output

 Team Fortress 2
 - Added the Robotic Boogaloo community update:
 http://www.teamfortress.com/roboticboogaloo/
 - Fixed a chat exploit that would cause other clients to timeout from
 dedicated servers
 - Updated the Mann Co. Store
- Added RoboCrate Keys
- Added A Random RoboKey Gift
- Added Pile of RoboKey Gifts
- Backpack Expanders on sale at 80% off
 - Updated the localization files


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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Albert Davis]

no, it didn't...grrr



On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Albert Davis davis.alb...@gmail.comwrote:

 looks to be working...


 On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Albert Davis davis.alb...@gmail.comwrote:

 Question on creating a bat file to update my dedicated server :

 steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir ../csgo_ds +app_update 740 
 validate +quit


 Do i need to use the force install part?

 I am thinking this should work?

 steamcmd +login anonymous +app_update 232250 validate +quit





 On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Ryan Stecker voidedwea...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ah, I had only checked for the existence of sv_compressfragments.

 For what it's worth in my test of the prerelease build, the default
 convars didn't help to alleviate any issues. Only after I set
 sv_compressfragments to 0 did I see a visible improvement in performance.
 In fact the long frames had virtually disappeared other than the occasional
 one, but it performed much better than before.

 Hopefully the new compression scheme will be performant enough to not
 require disabling entirely.


 On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Fletcher Dunn 
 fletch...@valvesoftware.com wrote:

 sv_compressstringtablebaselines should still be present in this build,
 and it is defaulted to false.  The baselines are not compressed at that
 stage, instead we just compress them if desired like any other network data
 at either the fragment or packet stage.

 You might try adjusting this convar and see if it makes any difference.
  In my tests it did not, but I would be interested in any real world data
 on that question.

 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
 hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Stecker
 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 11:25 AM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released

 Great, thanks Fletch!
 Will definitely be on the lookout for any perf issues with these
 changes.

 On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Fletcher Dunn 
 fletch...@valvesoftware.commailto:fletch...@valvesoftware.com wrote:
 A note regarding the CPU spikes:

 I would encourage server operators to revert any changes made to
 disable compression, set all such convars to their default values, and
 re-evaluate performance and bandwidth.  I believe that the switch to a
 realtime compression library will fix the CPU spikes while getting the
 reduction in bandwidth that the compression was intended to  achieve.

 The sv_compressfragments convar has been removed.  You can get the same
 functionality simply by setting net_compresspackets_minsize to a large
 value.

 You might experiment with net_compresspackets_minsize to see if a
 larger or smaller value drastically effects performance and bandwidth.

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.commailto:
 hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
 hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.commailto:
 hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 11:09 AM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated
 Linux server mailing list; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com
 mailto:hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
 Subject: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

 We've released a mandatory update for Team Fortress 2. The notes for
 the update are below.

 -Eric

 ==

 Source Engine Changes
 - Fixed server CPU spikes caused by compression of string tables and
 packets.
 - Added sv_netspike, sv_netspike_sendtime_ms, and sv_netspike_output
 convars for investigating server performance
 - net_compresspackets_minsize default value increased to 1024.  This
 convar now also determines the threshold to determine when a fragment
 (logical game network message, before being broken up into network packets)
 is compressed.
 - Added vprof_vtrace and vprof_report_oninterval convars, and tweaked
 vprof_dump_spikes and vprof_dump_oninterval to reduce output

 Team Fortress 2
 - Added the Robotic Boogaloo community update:
 http://www.teamfortress.com/roboticboogaloo/
 - Fixed a chat exploit that would cause other clients to timeout from
 dedicated servers
 - Updated the Mann Co. Store
- Added RoboCrate Keys
- Added A Random RoboKey Gift
- Added Pile of RoboKey Gifts
- Backpack Expanders on sale at 80% off
 - Updated the localization files


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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Russell Smith]

Any word back on this Eric?

On 10.08.2012 14:24, Eric Smith wrote:
I'll forward your email around to see who is looking into the 
problem.


-Eric


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Russell Smith
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 2:17 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released

Thanks for the heads up Eric.

It would be great if we could get a word back from a Valve employee 
on

the CPU spiking issue that started happening with the Pyro update.
There's been a couple threads about it and no word from Valve.  New
updates are nice and all but I would prefer to have a stable server 
over

new content.

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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Eric Smith]

I'll forward your email around to see who is looking into the problem.

-Eric


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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Russell Smith
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 2:17 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update released

Thanks for the heads up Eric.

It would be great if we could get a word back from a Valve employee on 
the CPU spiking issue that started happening with the Pyro update.  
There's been a couple threads about it and no word from Valve.  New 
updates are nice and all but I would prefer to have a stable server over 
new content.

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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Russell Smith]

Thank you!

On 10.08.2012 14:24, Eric Smith wrote:
I'll forward your email around to see who is looking into the 
problem.


-Eric



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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Bruno Garcia]

Awesome, I'm glad it's being taken care of.

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Russell Smith ve...@tinylittlerobots.uswrote:

 Thank you!


 On 10.08.2012 14:24, Eric Smith wrote:

 I'll forward your email around to see who is looking into the problem.

 -Eric


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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Kyle Sanderson]

Thanks for the regression fix. Any idea when the critical replay
issues are going to be resolved?

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Eric Smith er...@valvesoftware.com wrote:
 We've released a mandatory update for TF2.  The notes are below.



 -Eric



 -



 Team Fortress 2

 - Fixed a problem related to spawning multiple entities unnecessarily between 
 mini-rounds

 - Fixed a bug that caused players to see the wrong backpacks on some classes

 - Fixed a problem with honorbound weapons not allowing themselves to be 
 holstered after killing a Spy using the Dead Ringer

 - Fixed the Ubersaw and the Vita-Saw not displaying the Medic's ÜberCharge 
 progress

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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Mart-Jan Reeuwijk]

Why do I receive only the replies on such in the list but never the first mail 
from valve :S




From: Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.com
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hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing 
list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
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Subject: Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

Thanks for the regression fix. Any idea when the critical replay
issues are going to be resolved?

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Eric Smith er...@valvesoftware.com wrote:
 We've released a mandatory update for TF2.  The notes are below.



 -Eric



 -



 Team Fortress 2

 - Fixed a problem related to spawning multiple entities unnecessarily 
 between mini-rounds

 - Fixed a bug that caused players to see the wrong backpacks on some classes

 - Fixed a problem with honorbound weapons not allowing themselves to be 
 holstered after killing a Spy using the Dead Ringer

 - Fixed the Ubersaw and the Vita-Saw not displaying the Medic's ÜberCharge 
 progress

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Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

[Kyle Sanderson]

Thanks Jon.

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Jon Lippincott j...@valvesoftware.com wrote:
 We have replay fixes for early next week.

 -Jon

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
 [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson
 Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 5:38 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Win32 
 server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

 Thanks for the regression fix. Any idea when the critical replay
 issues are going to be resolved?

 On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Eric Smith er...@valvesoftware.com wrote:
 We've released a mandatory update for TF2.  The notes are below.



 -Eric



 -



 Team Fortress 2

 - Fixed a problem related to spawning multiple entities unnecessarily 
 between mini-rounds

 - Fixed a bug that caused players to see the wrong backpacks on some classes

 - Fixed a problem with honorbound weapons not allowing themselves to be 
 holstered after killing a Spy using the Dead Ringer

 - Fixed the Ubersaw and the Vita-Saw not displaying the Medic's ÜberCharge 
 progress

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