Re: DUMMY and BLKSIZE

2005-05-31 Thread TISLER Zaromil
snip It's easy to suspect that at some point in time IBM resolved all such problems by adopting a tactic of converting DSN=NULLFILE to DUMMY early in the JCL conversion process, and that the few (only?) contributor[s] to this thread that maintain (without presenting evidence) that the behaviors

Re: More Hype for the B1 visas?

2005-05-31 Thread Leonard Woren
Except as it pertains to IBM, this is now way off-topic for this list, but I just have to say this... The problem with U.S. Corporations is *the stock market*. Want to stop the outsourcing of jobs to overseas? Abolish the stock market! Make management responsive to and responsible to customers,

DUMMY and BLKSIZE=0

2005-05-31 Thread DOMINGUEZ MARTIN, ANGEL LUIS
Thanks all for answers to this topic. At end, I think the problem is APARerable. ISPF abends and there is not clear the cause. I made a little assem program to obtain the BLKSIZE from the DCBD area over a DD present in JCL, and here are the results: - Appears to

Re: Regarding CHPID TYPE

2005-05-31 Thread Ottar Moller
Hi, Here are the messages from D M=CHP(B0,B8) D M=CHP(B0,B8) IEE174I 09.08.40 DISPLAY M 942 CHPID B0: TYPE=03, DESC=ESCON POINT TO POINT, ONLINE CHPID B8: TYPE=04, DESC=ESCON SWITCHED OR POINT TO POINT, ONLINE DEVICE STATUS FOR CHANNEL PATH B0 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F

Userids

2005-05-31 Thread Chiam, Susan Mee-Shia
Hi Listers, We have a request to look into utilising 8-chars userids. First reaction from the team was 'No', but we have to put forward our arguments. So we need to put up a list of 'pros' and 'cons' on this request. Any help to formulate the list is appreciated. Thank you.

Re: Listserver for DFSMS/HSM

2005-05-31 Thread R.S.
Raymond Noal wrote: Dear List, Is there a list server for IBM's DFSMS / HSM topics? IMHO this is the list server. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: More Hype for the B1 visas?

2005-05-31 Thread Gerhard Adam
Do you suggest some kind of revolution ? We have some experiences with that, I'd suggest to read some Lenin's books, or epecially Marx - they suggested similar solutions. They also did hate top salaries of bank's presidents. Everything is already discussed, every problem was solved in their

Re: SMF71 and ICETOOL

2005-05-31 Thread Martin Packer
Antonio wrote Thanks for the tip. But that's odd... I agree, but that's the way it's been since 1997 (OS/390 R.4.) The whole set of fields arose as a 3-way discussion between me, a SRM/WLM developer and a RMF developer. BTW. But I claim no credit for this nested buckets implementation. :-)

Re: Userids

2005-05-31 Thread Ulrich Boche
Chiam, Susan Mee-Shia wrote: Hi Listers, We have a request to look into utilising 8-chars userids. First reaction from the team was 'No', but we have to put forward our arguments. So we need to put up a list of 'pros' and 'cons' on this request. Any help to formulate the list is appreciated.

Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe

2005-05-31 Thread Mark Vitale
I believe the software looks for the key database password in the stash file. When I ran into this recently, I was using gskkyman to manage my key file, and there's an option in gskkyman 10 - Store database password to create the stash file. Once I did that, the TLS handshake moved on to the

Re: Entry level readers?

2005-05-31 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) I have some related questions prompted by a recent job posting. What is the lowest experience level of the readers here? I surmise that I'm one of the juniors here with 23 years in the

Re: Friday question: How far back is PLO instruction supported?

2005-05-31 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Edward E. Jaffe Craddock, Chris wrote: [ snip ] I am constantly amazed at the gymnastics some people will go through to support back back back level customers. One thing you can say for sure about customers

Re: Userids

2005-05-31 Thread Lizette Koehler
IMHO - An 8 Char TSO ID is doable. However, the following points need to be evaluated: 1) Using an 8 char TSO ID will prevent the tso user from submitting a job with a dynamically incrementing job card //TSOID JOB ... Will submit as //TSOIDA JOB the first

Re: More Hype for the B1 visas?

2005-05-31 Thread Howard Brazee
On 31-May-2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leonard Woren) wrote: The whole H1B argument is so obviously a lie -- there isn't a shortage of IT professionals in the U.S.; there is just a shortage in the U.S. of the ones who will work for what in the U.S. is chump change. So they import them and train

Re: Userids

2005-05-31 Thread Lizette Koehler
Actually, at one shop we did attempt to do this. However, there were many exits we had to write around TSO to make it work. It was not something I would recommend. But if you can figure out what needs to be altered, it can be done. Secondly, I am not sure with OCO if it can be done anymore.

DUMMY and BLKSIZE=0

2005-05-31 Thread john gilmore
I found the experience of being 'beaten up' drole, and I am of course unrepentent. It will he helpful to go back in time to the early years of OS/MFT for the System/360. The syntax of JCL is of course modelled on that of the F Assembler, and its macro phase in particular. JCL statements then

Re: SDB, BLKSIZE=0, and IEBGENER SYSPRINT

2005-05-31 Thread Bob Wright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reaction to the recent DUMMY and ISPLOG BLKSIZE=0 thread, I did a test with the following: //GENEREXEC PGM=IEBGENER //SYSPRINT DD DISP=(NEW,CATLG), // DSN=SYSUID..IEBGENER.SYSPRINT, // DCB=(RECFM=FBA,LRECL=121,BLKSIZE=0), //

Re: DUMMY and BLKSIZE=0

2005-05-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, john gilmore said: Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 15:16:36 + Once written within a procedure neither of the DD statements //ddname DD DUMMY or //ddname DD DUMMY, . . . can be altered into one that in fact is functional, permits non-null outputs to be written

Quos Deus perdere vult (was: Re: DUMMY ...)

2005-05-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, john gilmore said: Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 15:16:36 + Quos deus perdere vult amentat. Anyone but the Pope needs to be safely dead to make such an argument. I can find, Quos deus perdere vult, dementat prius. (and I was vaguely familiar with it.) Is amentat

Re: SDB, BLKSIZE=0, and IEBGENER SYSPRINT

2005-05-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Bob Wright said: Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 11:45:55 -0400 Try again with DSORG=PS added to the DCB attributes. I don't have a book detailing SDB requirements nearby, but I seem to recall that the DSORG must be PS and known to data management in time to apply SDB.

Re: Searching for Graphing Vendor

2005-05-31 Thread Kevin Clark
Alan, You may want to contact MXG (Barry Merrill) or Chuck H. Got to www.mxg.com they may have some ideas. Kevin -- Original message -- Hi, We're considering the possibility of sending SMF offsite to a vendor who produces graphs for management. It

Re: Userids DYNALLOC

2005-05-31 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Tue, 31 May 2005 12:25:41 -0400, Nelliyappan Manivel, Sridhar wrote: I'm struggling with a mysterious return reason code when DYNALLOC is called from a 8 character userid (I showed the error message to our ACF2 guru here got all authorization). The same program works good when the job is

Re: Friday question: How far back is PLO instruction supported?

2005-05-31 Thread Eric Chevalier
On 31 May 2005 09:46:05 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Gould) wrote: Who? This is entirely on topic, IMO and worth discussion. I believe that Mr. Smith is referring to the messages in this thread which reminisce about Univac, 7090s, MFT and so forth. The messages which prove (once again), Jaffe's

Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe

2005-05-31 Thread Hal Merritt
I don't agree. The OMVS setup looked to be more complicated and would result in a less secure environment. Do stay away from the ISPF panels and do the cert generation in batch. My $0.02 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: Searching for Graphing Vendor

2005-05-31 Thread McKown, John
I am likely confused. The person wants to send some data out-of-house and get back some graphs? In what form? Transparencies? GIF files? PNG files? A presentation? What I am considering is looking a porting GNUPlot from Linux to z/OS UNIX System Services. I just haven't had time (or

Re: More Hype for the B1 visas?

2005-05-31 Thread Gerhard Adam
The whole H1B argument is so obviously a lie -- there isn't a shortage of IT professionals in the U.S.; there is just a shortage in the U.S. of the ones who will work for what in the U.S. is chump change. So they import them and train them here so they can go back to their home countries and

Moving a RLS enabled VSAM dataset

2005-05-31 Thread Jousma, David
All, Just a hypothetical question. Hoping someone here has the answer already. We are getting ready to enable RLS for testing purposes, and the Storage guy was scratching his head asking how we would move a VSAM Dataset opened for RLS, shared across multiple LPARS on different CEC's In the SAME

Fw: DUMMY and BLKSIZE=0

2005-05-31 Thread Bill Klein
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... In a recent note, john gilmore said: snip And on this question, I have yet no empirical evidence that, for example, DUMMY,DCB=... behaves any differently from DSN=NULLFILE,DCB=... I'm inclined to believe that the writers of the JCL

VTAM APPN routing

2005-05-31 Thread Dave Kutz
If I have 3 appn VTAMs all in same netid. CPUA and CPUC are dual CDSERVRs, Enterprise Extenders, and Extended Border Nodes to a common remote netid EBN VTAM. CPUB is one of several appn NN VTAMs running applications. How can I force a session setup from CPUB to ALWAYS choose CPUC for a remote

Re: WLM using default service classes.....?

2005-05-31 Thread Kim Goldenberg
Dave Thorn wrote: We have begun setting up a new customer's LPARs, etc, and since we're bringing them into our sysplex I'm integrating their WLM specs into our existing one. I activated it last week on the customer system. To my surprise, started tasks all seemed to go to the default STC

Re: WLM using default service classes.....?

2005-05-31 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 31 May 2005 14:02:30 -0400, Dave Thorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have begun setting up a new customer's LPARs, etc, and since we're bringing them into our sysplex I'm integrating their WLM specs into our existing one. I activated it last week on the customer system. To my surprise,

Re: SDB, BLKSIZE=0, and IEBGENER SYSPRINT

2005-05-31 Thread Bob Wright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a recent note, Bob Wright said: Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 11:45:55 -0400 Try again with DSORG=PS added to the DCB attributes. I don't have a book detailing SDB requirements nearby, but I seem to recall that the DSORG must be PS and known to data management

Re: JOB card error - it has me stumped.

2005-05-31 Thread Mark Yuhas
Due to the misalignment caused by the font, it's hard to read the information. However, this is positions 1-29 of the JOB card: //VM44K1C JOB (C,VM44,027), 66EDFFDFC444DDC44C6EDFF6FFF56 115 444 21 30001 6 20D3B5444 B027DB Positions 30-72: 'COMP SEARCH PARMS',

DDCONS

2005-05-31 Thread Mendelson, Eric
What is the ramifications of ddcons in SMF. We have used the default of YES. How many shops have set ddcons to no TIA Project Leader - MVS HIP 32 Old Slip New York N.Y. 10005 212-806-4054 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: JOB card error - it has me stumped.

2005-05-31 Thread McKown, John
A continuation character is not needed in column 72. There is a trailing comma after the programmer name field. This is sufficient for the JCL interpreter to think that you are continuing the JOB card on the next card. If you are not, you get this error. Remove comma after the programmer name

Re: DDCONS

2005-05-31 Thread Greg Shirey
Here's a link to a discussion of this parm from the archives: http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0002L=ibm-mainD=0I=1P=280425 Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mendelson, Eric Sent: Tuesday, May

Re: Userids DYNALLOC

2005-05-31 Thread Leonard Woren
On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 12:25:41PM -0400, Nelliyappan Manivel, Sridhar - Sridher ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'm struggling with a mysterious return reason code when DYNALLOC is called from a 8 character userid (I showed the error message to our ACF2 guru here got all authorization). The same

BOOKMGR PDF support

2005-05-31 Thread Gibbons, Mark
I wanted to hang the PDF documentation for products off of my mainframe website and didn't want to recreate a method of organizing the books. I opened a PMR, mostly hoping for a simpler method to move a PDF manual not associated with a book manager format book to the Book manager bookshelves.

FW: JOB card error - it has me stumped.

2005-05-31 Thread Raymond Noal
Mark, You have a comma after the 'programmer name' (COMP SEARCH PARMS, in your case) which is indicating a continuation. Column 72 has nothing to do with indicating a continuation in your example. Using Col. 72 to indicate continuation was the old format for JCL. Now, if you end the text in a JCL

Re: BOOKMGR PDF support

2005-05-31 Thread Jim Liebert
I'll admit to skipping that time consuming step of actually reading the help/manuals but the part of using Acrobat files in Book Manager that I find really frustrating is that they exist outside of any BookMgr search facility. I can search the Adobe files using the Acrobat search but not the Book

Re: Userids

2005-05-31 Thread Steve Bui
Our CICS and IDMS users have 8 chars for ids, but TSO users have less. SteveBui -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chiam, Susan Mee-Shia Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 2:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Userids Hi

Re: Userids DYNALLOC

2005-05-31 Thread Nelliyappan Manivel, Sridhar - Sridher
(I don't see this post from list, hence, I'm resending this post). Thanks for your responses. Here is the information you requested. Datasetname, volser DD get replaced by parameters. Basically to call svc 99 with different text1dsn, text1vsr text1dd each time. I don't see anything in the

DFSMS/HSM

2005-05-31 Thread Raymond Noal
Dear List, Is there a programmatically way using REXX to interface with ISMF, specifically to inquire about the current values for a storage group's allocation and percentage of available free space? TIA HITACHI DATA SYSTEMS Raymond E. Noal Lab Manager, San Diego Facility Office: (858) 537

Re: DDCONS

2005-05-31 Thread Natarajan Mohan
I have DDCONS set to NO. This helps in shutting down DFHSM faster. Thanks Natarajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/31/2005 12:29:49 PM What is the ramifications of ddcons in SMF. We have used the default of YES. How many shops have set ddcons to no TIA Project Leader - MVS HIP 32 Old Slip New

Re: JOB card error - it has me stumped.

2005-05-31 Thread Mark Zelden
Several people wrote: there is a comma saying that it's expecting more job card parms. I could be wrong, but I think he already knows that. However, he thinks the problem is with the first card because that is when he sees HASP119. I can't say if that is the case or not if the next card is

Re: Friday question: How far back is PLO instruction supported?

2005-05-31 Thread Ed Gould
on 5/31/05 12:34 PM, Eric Chevalier at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 31 May 2005 09:46:05 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Gould) wrote: Who? This is entirely on topic, IMO and worth discussion. I believe that Mr. Smith is referring to the messages in this thread which reminisce about

Re: FTP.DATA

2005-05-31 Thread Raymond Noal
Howard, Check your PROCLIB procedure for stating FTP. Ours looks like this: snip The SYSFTPD DD statement is optional. The search order for FTP.DATA is:

Re: FTP.DATA

2005-05-31 Thread Charles Mills
Just happen to have it in one of the reference manuals for our product: FTP.DATA is IBM's term for the FTP parameter dataset. There is no dataset actually named FTP.DATA. The search order for FTP.DATA is: SYSFTPD DD statement in FTP server started task cataloged procedure; jobname.FTP.DATA for

SBD4 at z/OS 1.4 IPL

2005-05-31 Thread Ben Alford
I reduced the region size of our z/OS V1.4 test system's virtual machine and it IPLed OK @ 1 GB. No msg IEA303W. Given Skip's note about apar OA06207, it isn't clear what your real problem is (yet). Of course, YMMV with regard to region needs set in SYS1.PARMLIB and other places. We had been

DFSMS / HSM Inquiry

2005-05-31 Thread Raymond Noal
Dear list, Since I can not find a dedicated list for HSM users, let me ask this prestigious list of users - Is there any way that a user can influence which volume(s) HSM chooses for migration processing - SETSYS / DEFINE statements, User HSM Exits? I have done due diligence in the RTFM

Re: FTP.DATA

2005-05-31 Thread Kevin Clark
hello, FTP.DATA is most likely a PDS member in TCPPARMS. Kevin -- Original message -- Hello all, I'm trying to find the file FTP.DATA. More then likely it should have a name like HLQ.FTP.DATA but I can't find it in my system the way it is presented here.

Re: DDCONS

2005-05-31 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
We use DDCONS(NO). Helps to shutdown DB2 faster which we do only during IPL (aprox. 5 times a year) and maintenance (aprox. 3 times a year) For our SAP-DB2 sub-system it's a pain using DDCONS(YES) Roland -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: FTP.DATA

2005-05-31 Thread Mark Vitale
If you issue TSO HOMETEST, it will tell you the name of the FTP DATA file for your current TSO session. Mark Vitale Senior Software Engineer Telephone 610.865.0300 (ext. 126) ISM - The power behind great IT decisions Visit us at www.perfman.com -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: JOB card error - it has me stumped.

2005-05-31 Thread Kevin Clark
Hello, Mark said something about CICS and INTRDR. did you make sure that a /* was done. Kevin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN

Re: JOB card error - it has me stumped.

2005-05-31 Thread Mark Yuhas
Problem solved. A colleague discovered that at the end of the jobstream was a '/*EOF' statement. When this was removed from the jobstream, the JOB card was recognized and executed as planned. In the Assembler Services Guide concerning the Internal Reader, the /*EOF statement causes the

Re: FTP.DATA

2005-05-31 Thread Hal Merritt
Actually, there are two members. One is FTPSDATA and the other is FTPCDATA. One is for the *server*, and the other is default *client*. Care to guess which is which? But: do be aware that these are just defaults. The search sequence is modifiable. Check the content of SYS1.PROCLIB(FTPD) for

Re: Moving a RLS enabled VSAM dataset

2005-05-31 Thread Mark Thomen
Jousma, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... All, Just a hypothetical question. Hoping someone here has the answer already. We are getting ready to enable RLS for testing purposes, and the Storage guy was scratching his head asking how we would move a VSAM

How to know which codepage mainframe uses or supports?

2005-05-31 Thread Bo Xie
Hi, I know mainframe supports IBM-1047 codepage, but how to know wethere it supports others(eg. IBM-047 or Japanese)? If it supports, how to know it? Thank you! Best Regards, Xie Bo -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: DDCONS

2005-05-31 Thread Norman Hollander
Just understand that with DDCONS(NO), you will generate more SMF records for each Task/Job. This could cause more back-end processing for MXG or MICS or your archival process. But this is probably preferred. I've been recommending NO since it first became available. I'd rather the backend take

Re: FTP.DATA

2005-05-31 Thread Roger Lowe
On Tue, 31 May 2005 13:43:32 -0700, Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I'm trying to find the file FTP.DATA. More then likely it should have a name like HLQ.FTP.DATA but I can't find it in my system the way it is presented here. Howard, Have a look in the hlq.SEZAINST

Re: SDB, BLKSIZE=0, and IEBGENER SYSPRINT

2005-05-31 Thread Ted MacNEIL
... I seem to recall that the DSORG must be PS and known to data management in time to apply SDB ... The DSORG can also be PO. I've used it for years, that way. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: SDB, BLKSIZE=0, and IEBGENER SYSPRINT

2005-05-31 Thread Kevin Clark
why is the date 6/1/2005 -- Original message -- ... I seem to recall that the DSORG must be PS and known to data management in time to apply SDB ... The DSORG can also be PO. I've used it for years, that way. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Time Warp (was: SDB, ... )

2005-05-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Kevin Clark said: Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 01:11:09 + why is the date 6/1/2005 Have pity on the poor fellow -- he was cursed by a Blackberry. -- gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERFUL

Re: Time Warp (was: SDB, ... )

2005-05-31 Thread Ted MacNEIL
... Have pity on the poor fellow -- he was cursed by a Blackberry. ... It as a deliberate choice. I only have problems when messages cross time-zones. When I send messages to people in the Eastern Zone, there is no problem. This was hashed around in November. Please, let's not get started on it

Re: Searching for Graphing Vendor

2005-05-31 Thread mark . van-der-eynden
On Tue, 31 May 2005 12:43:31 -0500, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I am considering is looking a porting GNUPlot from Linux to z/OS UNIX System Services. I just haven't had time (or inclination). Our DASD person is really pumped on SASGraph, but the bloody thing is super expensive.

Re: SDB, BLKSIZE=0, and IEBGENER SYSPRINT

2005-05-31 Thread Greg Price
Bob Wright wrote: You're welcome. I thought that we'd bumped into something like that in the course of some service aids development where we had an old DCB that didn't specify DSORG, leaving that for a DCB OPEN exit to supply. I have no idea why IEBGENER would be going that route, but

Re: Userids

2005-05-31 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hello Sue, We use 8 char IDs for: o CICS only users o Started Task IDs o BATCH only IDs not submitted via TSO. We use 8 char IDs for: o the above o TSO users On Tue, 31 May 2005 17:36:38 +0800, Chiam, Susan Mee-Shia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Listers, We have a request to look

Re: SDB, BLKSIZE=0, and IEBGENER SYSPRINT

2005-05-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Greg Price said: Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:16:51 +1000 Well, here's my theory: Does this have to be done by theory and/or experiment, or is it made clear in the documentation? Once a DD for a NEW disk data set has the following DCB attributes 1) RECFM specifying