Re: VLF CLASS NAME(IKJEXEC)

2009-07-08 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Jochen Roehrig jochen.roeh...@baloise.ch wrote in message news:listserv%200907070946477612.0...@bama.ua.edu... Hello, is LLA STC required to benefit from VLF's CLASS NAME(IKJEXEC)? We think about running our system with no LLA STC, because we use some ISV's solution instead of LLA. But my

Re: TS7740 media types

2009-07-08 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Bruce McKnight mcknight-...@excite.com wrote in message news:54459058-451f-4a16-af33-b06245951...@y17g2000yqn.googlegroups.com ... Thanks for the info. I just want to be sure I understand that 3590 is not an eligible media type in the TS7740 and the best I can do is a 3490e set to 4 gig

Re: Sysplex timeout problems.

2009-07-08 Thread Barbara Nitz
You're NOT supposed to get any message to which you have to reply DOWN! The correct way to shut down a system in a sysplex is to ALWAYS ALWAYS use vary xcf,sysname,offline. Then reply with the name of that system again. (This is true for monoplexes, also!) Remember that the IXC402D (reply down

Re: Sysplex timeout problems.

2009-07-08 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Very interesting. In several shops I have just dealt with the message in a timely fashion. We indeed do the v xcf,sysname,offline and every time one of the other systems gets the error message. It does seem like a kludge to me and I've suggested we set up ZAKK to automagically issue the down.

Re: Sysplex timeout problems.

2009-07-08 Thread Jousma, David
Barbara, Actually, you do get prompted for the message to reply down if you don't have the SFM policy in place to handle it for you. _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris,

Re: Sysplex timeout problems.

2009-07-08 Thread Barbara Nitz
Ups, forgot the SFM policy. (We have it active.) BUT: I have also seen IXC102A *even though* sfm was active. *That* was a bug. The book says: 3. There are instances when this message will be issued and the appropriate action must be taken even though there is an SFM policy active in the

Re: Sysplex timeout problems.

2009-07-08 Thread Klein, Kenneth
What is SFM? Ken Klein Sr. Systems Programmer Kentucky Farm Bureau Insurance - Louisville kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com 502-495-5000 x7011 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:51 AM To:

Re: Sysplex timeout problems.

2009-07-08 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 02:03:18 -0500, Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net wrote: You're NOT supposed to get any message to which you have to reply DOWN! The correct way to shut down a system in a sysplex is to ALWAYS ALWAYS use vary xcf,sysname,offline. Then reply with the name of that system again.

Re: Sysplex timeout problems.

2009-07-08 Thread Barbara Nitz
I should have read the full post before replying. What did you specify for OPNOTIFY, CLEANUP and INTERVAL in your couplexx? (We default all values.) What does your EXSPAT say? (It has an influence - you need to read InitTuna and Setting up a Sysplex.) The setting of these parms influences how

Re: Sysplex timeout problems.

2009-07-08 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 08:20:09 -0400, Klein, Kenneth kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com wrote: What is SFM? Sysplex Failure Management You may want to do a little reading about sysplex: MVS Setting Up a Sysplex http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2F181/CCONTENTS Here is a simple

Re: VLF CLASS NAME(IKJEXEC)

2009-07-08 Thread Jochen Roehrig
Thanks everybody for the comments. Mark is right: pls do not use this issue to discuss the pros and cons of LLA/VLF versus PMO/Quickfetch. I just need some advise how best to use VLF's Class IKJEXEC with no LLA up and running... Yes, we also use other classes with VLF, e.g. IGGCAS. I need some

Dialog Management Scrolling WAS Left Right Scrolling in ISPF

2009-07-08 Thread esst...@juno.com
I am particulary interested in this thread. If am familiar with Scrolling through a Pannel table using PF7 and PF8 in a Dialog Manager Program. If I wanted to Scroll Left To Right PF10/PF11 Should the Panel for the Panel Table be defined graeter than 80 Characters ? In affect scrolling left

Re: Offload work to ziip

2009-07-08 Thread Dazzo, Matt
Sorry to open this ZIIP box again but, here goes. BMC claims significant savings (software cost and MIPS savings) by using CMF instead of RMF and migrating the work load to a ZIIP. Has anyone made this move and what results have you found? Thanks for sharing. Matt -Original Message-

Re: ERASEDATA - DASD disposal

2009-07-08 Thread R.S.
Linda Mooney pisze: Greetings! I am in the process of retiring 3 RAMAC 2 racks, each with a 3990 mod 6 controller, and 1 RAMAC 3 rack, with a 9293 controller. All data has been moved to new DASD. The RAMAC DASD will be surplused so I have to be sure that the data has been wiped clean and

Re: VLF CLASS NAME(IKJEXEC)

2009-07-08 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 07:44:18 -0500, Jochen Roehrig jochen.roeh...@baloise.ch wrote: Thanks everybody for the comments. Mark is right: pls do not use this issue to discuss the pros and cons of LLA/VLF versus PMO/Quickfetch. I just need some advise how best to use VLF's Class IKJEXEC with no LLA up

Re: Sysplex timeout problems.

2009-07-08 Thread Klein, Kenneth
COUPLE SYSPLEX(KFBP) PCOUPLE(SYS1.XCF.KFBP.CDS01) ACOUPLE(SYS1.XCF.KFBP.CDS02) INTERVAL(85) OPNOTIFY(87) CLEANUP(15) MAXMSG(2000)

Re: Dialog Management Scrolling WAS Left Right Scrolling in ISPF

2009-07-08 Thread Dave Salt
Hi Paul, ISPF table panels do not scroll left or right. Making the panel width larger than 80 characters will cause an error if someone attempts to display the panel on a regular 80 width screen size. The only way to get a table to scroll left and right is to simulate the behaviour

Re: Offload work to ziip

2009-07-08 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thank you for that whitepaper link. Very informative and enligntening. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of O'Connor, David Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Offload work

Re: Sysplex timeout problems.

2009-07-08 Thread Klein, Kenneth
I should add that this site does _not_ have a CF. XCF is setup and that's about it. The problem is with the distributed systems that use TCP/IP to talk to the mainframe. Apparently the TCP stack freezes while this message is outstanding waiting for the ,down reply and timeouts occur on remote

Convert DB2 on z/OS to Oracle on z/Linux?

2009-07-08 Thread Dave Salt
A friend of mine develops applications using COBOL and DB2. To save money, management at his company is considering converting DB2 to Oracle. My friend is neither for or against the idea, but has some concerns about how this might affect him. I know nothing about Oracle or z/Linux, so I thought

Re: Computerworld: London Stock Exchange to Abandon Windows

2009-07-08 Thread Tom Marchant
(reformatted) On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 16:23:48 -0700, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote: Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:28:29 -0500, McKown, John wrote: Proportedly, Windows can run on z But why would anyone choose to run Windows on z? Aside from: o He can afford a z, but

Re: VLF CLASS NAME(IKJEXEC)

2009-07-08 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Jochen Roehrig jochen.roeh...@baloise.ch wrote in message news:listserv%200907080744180074.0...@bama.ua.edu... Thanks everybody for the comments. Mark is right: pls do not use this issue to discuss the pros and cons of LLA/VLF versus PMO/Quickfetch. I just need some advise how best to use

Re: Computerworld: London Stock Exchange to Abandon Windows

2009-07-08 Thread Mark Post
On 7/8/2009 at 9:51 AM, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com wrote: -snip- And what benefit do you think that there is in doing that anyway? The same as any other server consolidation effort using z/VM: - Floor space - Power - Cooling - Network hardware - Immense flexibility - probably lots

Re: Convert DB2 on z/OS to Oracle on z/Linux?

2009-07-08 Thread Mark Post
On 7/8/2009 at 9:49 AM, Dave Salt ds...@hotmail.com wrote: A friend of mine develops applications using COBOL and DB2. To save money, management at his company is considering converting DB2 to Oracle. My friend is neither for or against the idea, but has some concerns about how this

Re: Dialog Management Scrolling WAS Left Right Scrolling in ISPF

2009-07-08 Thread Roach, Dennis (N-GHG)
If you are displaying tables, individual columns can be made left/right scrollable. Dennis Roach GHG Corporation Lockheed Martin Mission Services Facilities Design and Operations Contract NASA/JSC Address: 2100 Space Park Drive LM-15-4BH Houston, Texas 77058 Mail: P.O. Box 58487

Re: Convert DB2 on z/OS to Oracle on z/Linux?

2009-07-08 Thread Jerry Fuchs
Dave, We are in the process of converting from DB2 to Oracle. I am not directly involved in this but I can pass on what I hear. It is not a simple migration. Everything has to be rewritten. Thus we have a lot of contractors working on rewriting everything. I have heard comments that there are

Re: SMPE usermod sample

2009-07-08 Thread Todd Last
I have a similar SMPE usermod question... I need to add an alias to FTP (called Z062016). In the past I have relinked the module outside of SMPE and then updated SMPE using a usermod. It isn't very clean and it causes modid problems when I apply new TCPIP maintenance. I'm wondering if

Re: Convert DB2 on z/OS to Oracle on z/Linux?

2009-07-08 Thread Steve Comstock
Jerry Fuchs wrote: Dave, We are in the process of converting from DB2 to Oracle. I am not directly involved in this but I can pass on what I hear. It is not a simple migration. Everything has to be rewritten. Thus we have a lot of contractors working on rewriting everything. I have heard

Re: SMPE usermod sample

2009-07-08 Thread Jousma, David
We do something similar for IEBCOPY. We add FTBIEBC as an alias. Not sure it is the most efficient or best way, but it works: //STEP005 EXEC SMPE,CSI=SMPE.ZOS110.GLOBAL.CSI //SMPOUT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD *

Re: Convert DB2 on z/OS to Oracle on z/Linux?

2009-07-08 Thread Mark Post
On 7/8/2009 at 10:38 AM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com wrote: -snip- Besides, I thought Oracle was discontinuing development of its product for z/OS. What's up with that? They made the business decision that Oracle for Linux on System z was going to be their one and only mainframe

Re: Convert DB2 on z/OS to Oracle on z/Linux?

2009-07-08 Thread Frank Swarbrick
One thing that should be mentioned off the bat is that Oracle has stabilized their z/OS database offerings at version 10.2. Oracle on other platforms are at version 11. You may ask, well why does it matter since we'll be running Oracle on Linux, not z/OS. But that's not entirely true. You

Re: Convert DB2 on z/OS to Oracle on z/Linux?

2009-07-08 Thread Patrick Lyon
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 08:53:52 -0600, Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote: They made the business decision that Oracle for Linux on System z was going to be their one and only mainframe version. Mark Post Fine by me. If any of you have ever done an Oracle install on z/OS, I would bet you would

Re: Dialog Management Scrolling WAS Left Right Scrolling in ISPF

2009-07-08 Thread esst...@juno.com
Dennis Roach wrote If you are displaying tables, individual columns can be made left/right scrollable. Dennis, Could you please elaborate on this, from other posters it seems this has to be done from the programmers logic. Paul D'Angelo

no longer notified

2009-07-08 Thread Frank Swarbrick
In our development LPAR I am having a problem where my job Notify no longer seems to work. That is, when I submit a job with NOTIFY=SYSUID on the JOB card. When the job ends I no longer receive a message like: 09.07.37 JOB02829 $HASP165 FJSBR14 ENDED AT ZOS MAXCC=0 CN(INTERNAL) No one else

Re: no longer notified

2009-07-08 Thread Jousma, David
Do you have NOMAIL or NONOTICE selected on your TSO logon panel? _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB1G p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.8497

Re: no longer notified

2009-07-08 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: no longer notified In our development LPAR I am having a problem where my job Notify no

Re: Dialog Management Scrolling WAS Left Right Scrolling in ISPF

2009-07-08 Thread Itschak Mugzach
haven't seen the original question, but if I understand correctly, you are trying to scroll a table horizontally. To do so, you need to set the )model section to a variable that contains the z variables and the attribute chars and assign the zvars to the proper variables. example: )MODEL MYMODEL

Re: no longer notified

2009-07-08 Thread John P Kalinich
Do you have INTERCOM specified in your TSO Profile? SEND can be used to send a message from one user to another user in the same JESPLEX. In order for the recipient to receive and display the message, the recipient's profile must include the INTERCOM operand. To change the profile, use the

Re: no longer notified

2009-07-08 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/8/2009 10:15:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jmck...@healthmarkets.com writes: it sounds like sometime you or maybe some REXX or CLIST did a PROFILE NOINTERCOM command. This tells TSO to not display this type of message, but to store it in the BRODCAST dataset. When

Re: Offload work to ziip

2009-07-08 Thread David Waldman
Here is a link to an IBM article that also has some good information. http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/novemberdecember07/coverstory/ 18227p1.aspx On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:45:31 -0400, Farley, Peter x23353 peter.far...@broadridge.com wrote: Thank you for that whitepaper link. Very

Deleting All the Members of a PDS

2009-07-08 Thread Baraniecki, Ray
Someone wrote how can I delete all the members of a PDS which got me thinking. Can I do this using Rexx? We have an Assembler program owned by IBM Global Services (we're outsourced) which will reset a PDS and optionally change the number of directory blocks as requested in the parm field. So

Required LMOD aliases (was Re: SMPE usermod sample)

2009-07-08 Thread Mark Zelden
Just curious for the last 2 posters that have a requirement to add an ALIAS to FTP and IEBCOPY. Why? Is there that much JCL to change that you want to support doing this forever? Or is there another reason? Regards, Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead

Re: Deleting All the Members of a PDS

2009-07-08 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Baraniecki, Ray Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Deleting All the Members of a PDS Someone wrote how can I delete all the members of a PDS

Re: Deleting All the Members of a PDS

2009-07-08 Thread Hardee, Charles H
Ray, Using your basic REXX, open the PDS with LRECL 256, etc, and read in the directory entries into a stem. Then, once the directory is loaded, close the PDS. Now, with library management services, you should be able to walk thru your stem and for each member issue a LM call and delete the

Re: Deleting All the Members of a PDS

2009-07-08 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:32:36 -0400, Baraniecki, Ray ray.baranie...@morganstanley.com wrote: Someone wrote how can I delete all the members of a PDS which got me thinking. Can I do this using Rexx? We have an Assembler program owned by IBM Global Services (we're outsourced) which will reset a PDS

Re: Delete all members of a PDS with JCL

2009-07-08 Thread Chris Hoelscher
well - i don;t like it either - but since those that can WONT stop the internal readers durring an upgrade - we are left to do what we can to get our stuff done! i am a DBA - not a sysprog - i am not familiar with SYMBOLICRELATE?? (but then - i never have related well ) Chris Hoelscher Senior

Re: Communications Server

2009-07-08 Thread Chris Mason
Mike The IBMTCP-L list is the one best to use for issues and problems involving z/OS Communications Server. Are there any books red or otherwise that can help me with this? The redbook designed to deal with matters arising from the withdrawal of the 3745 Communication Controllers is the

Re: Communications Server

2009-07-08 Thread Chris Mason
Mike Your guess would be entirely incorrect as a general principle and nearly always incorrect in particular cases. There can be cases of one product showing how to interface with another product over a formal interface but rarely. The one that comes to mind is how RACF is always mentioned in

Re: Communications Server

2009-07-08 Thread Chris Mason
Hal http://www-01.ibm.com/software/network/commserver/windows/ which is two clicks away from http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=2262uid=swg27010826 where the PDFs can be found. It seems to be a -network- product, not a z/os product. Rather obviously! Chris Mason On Tue, 7 Jul

Re: Required LMOD aliases (was Re: SMPE usermod sample)

2009-07-08 Thread Todd Last
Regarding the FTP alias... We have another lpar which is a clone of the production lpar. We do not want users (or automated batch jobs!!) to accidentally FTP in or out of the lpar. On the cloned system, we code dummy modules in front of SYS1.TCPIP.SEZALOAD to prevent the FTP. However, us

Re: no longer notified

2009-07-08 Thread Klein, Kenneth
If you are running jobs in a jes mas you will receive the messages only on the first lpar you log on to . Ken Klein Sr. Systems Programmer Kentucky Farm Bureau Insurance - Louisville kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com 502-495-5000 x7011 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Required LMOD aliases (was Re: SMPE usermod sample)

2009-07-08 Thread Jousma, David
In my case, yes. There is a lot of JCL to change. We are working on that, but it takes awhile to steer the ship. That same usermod also used to ZAP IEBCOPY with a SVC call to another program that would issue enqueues for SPFEDIT and SYSIEWLP. I was successful in getting that removed with our

Re: Required LMOD aliases (was Re: SMPE usermod sample)

2009-07-08 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:10:00 -0500, Todd Last tl...@uchicago.edu wrote: Regarding the FTP alias... We have another lpar which is a clone of the production lpar. We do not want users (or automated batch jobs!!) to accidentally FTP in or out of the lpar. On the cloned system, we code dummy

Articles Mainframe Proponents caution Big Iron Defectors and zPRIM from Neon

2009-07-08 Thread Lizette Koehler
There are a couple of interesting articles in Enterprise Systems update http://tinyurl.com/nkptlb Mainframe Proponents caution Big Iron Defectors While mainframe defectors like the TTX Co., the New York Stock Exchange and Meritz Financial Information Services tout their reasons for migrating

Planned IBMLink Outage July 10-11

2009-07-08 Thread Ken Porowski
Planned IBMLink Outage July 10-11 This is to inform you that IBMLink will have a planned outage starting on Friday, July 10 at 8:00 PM Eastern Time through Saturday, July 11 at 8:00 AM Eastern Time (Saturday, July 10 from 01:00 UTC to 13:00 UTC). This planned outage will occur because of the

Re: no longer notified

2009-07-08 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I do not. On 7/8/2009 at 9:13 AM, in message a90766b5039c59409110c92d47216f5903ace...@s1flokydce2k322.dm0001.info53.com, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com wrote: Do you have NOMAIL or NONOTICE selected on your TSO logon panel? _

Re: Required LMOD aliases (was Re: SMPE usermod sample)

2009-07-08 Thread Natarajan Mohan
Mark, From his note I believe it is done to prevent wrong data being offloaded via automated batch process to feed other ETL processes outside that LPAR. If that is not the case, I am curious why IND$FILE is allowed and not FTP. Natarajan Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com 7/8/2009 9:41

Re: no longer notified

2009-07-08 Thread Frank Swarbrick
That did it! Thank you very much!!! Of course I have no idea what proc I ran that included the NONINTERCOM, but... Actually, we were doing training last week on ASG products, and that is when my issue occured, so I'm guessing it's one of those. Probably something turned it off and then

Re: Convert DB2 on z/OS to Oracle on z/Linux?

2009-07-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Besides, I thought Oracle was discontinuing development of its product for z/OS. While Oracle for z/OS has been 'stabilised' for almost three years (as a 31-bit sub-system), the question was about z/LINUX. Oracle is still producing (64-bit) releases/upgrades that run under z/LINUX (or LINUX

Re: Sysplex timeout problems.

2009-07-08 Thread Mark A. Brooks
SFM is Sysplex Failure Management. You define an SFM Policy that determines how you want z/OS to deal with different sorts of failure, for example, unresponsive systems or loss of XCF signal connectivity between systems. If your policy specifies the ISOLATE parameter, the surviving systems will

Re: Required LMOD aliases (was Re: SMPE usermod sample)

2009-07-08 Thread Todd Last
Natarajan is correct. We do not want to 'accidentally' ftp to other servers from this cloned system. Securing via ACF2 would be a harder solution to implement since the ACF2 database also gets cloned. Yes, any programmer can find our backdoor, but if they are smart enough to find it, they

Re: Dialog Management Scrolling WAS Left Right Scrolling in ISPF

2009-07-08 Thread Roach, Dennis (N-GHG)
Look at the Dialog Developer's Guide and Reference, Chapter 7, FIELD Section http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/ispzdg60.pdf Book page 215, pdf page 236 for documentation and example. This allows for left and right scrolling and expanding the field (see example). I tried to locate an

Re: SMPE usermod sample

2009-07-08 Thread Todd Last
Based on David's reply, it looks like I forgot a ++MOD entry in my usermod. In the next couple of days, I'll try redoing this usermod and not reassemble the module outside of SMPE. Thanks Dave! Todd -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: no longer notified

2009-07-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Oh, I forgot to note, once I log off and log back on I receive all of the notify messages that are queued up for me! That's probably because your logon process issues a LISTBC (List BroadCast). Try issuing a PROFile command (I forget the exact option -- it's documented in H PROF); you're

Re: Required LMOD aliases (was Re: SMPE usermod sample)

2009-07-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Securing via ACF2 would be a harder solution to implement since the ACF2 database also gets cloned. Unless things have changed, ACF2 can protect by SYSID. I don't know if it's an exit, being a user of ACF2, but we had programmes (and other resources) protected by SYSID over 20 years ago, at a

Looking for SYSOUT class

2009-07-08 Thread Hardee, Charles H
Hello Everyone, I am in need of determining the SYSOUT class associated with a DD in a job's JCL stream. I have examined DYNALLOC and find no SVC99 text unit that can tell me what I need to know. I have also examined the returned information from RDJFCB and, alas, it, too, is void of the

Re: no longer notified

2009-07-08 Thread Don Leahy
Sometimes NOINTERCOM is set by processes that transfer files using IND$FILE. This prevents the file transfer from being disrupted by a TSO message. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Frank Swarbrickfrank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com wrote: That did it!  Thank you very much!!! Of course I have no

Re: Required LMOD aliases (was Re: SMPE usermod sample)

2009-07-08 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:01:55 -0700, Natarajan Mohan nmo...@edfund.org wrote: Mark, From his note I believe it is done to prevent wrong data being offloaded via automated batch process to feed other ETL processes outside that LPAR. If that is not the case, I am curious why IND$FILE is allowed and

Re: Computerworld: London Stock Exchange to Abandon Windows

2009-07-08 Thread Gibney, Dave
A. Tongue was in cheek. B. As an example, the document imaging solution we use runs under Windows Server 200?, some dozen squatty boxes. If Windows Server 200? ran on zHardware, we could save several squatty box licenses and run on more reliable hardware. Hell, perhaps Exchange would run

Re: Required LMOD aliases (was Re: SMPE usermod sample)

2009-07-08 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:12:43 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:01:55 -0700, Natarajan Mohan wrote: ... I am curious why IND$FILE is allowed and not FTP. FUD! Not necessarily. In a previous job, there was a period of time that we had a test system that was created by a snapshot

Re: Computerworld: London Stock Exchange to Abandon Windows

2009-07-08 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Computerworld: London Stock Exchange to Abandon Windows snip p.s. Shouldn't

Re: Looking for SYSOUT class

2009-07-08 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 15:01:55 -0400 Hardee, Charles H charles.har...@ca.com wrote: :I am in need of determining the SYSOUT class associated with a DD in a :job's JCL stream. :I have examined DYNALLOC and find no SVC99 text unit that can tell me :what I need to know. :I have also examined the

Re: no longer notified

2009-07-08 Thread Frank Swarbrick
No IND$FILE processing here, but thanks for the info. On 7/8/2009 at 1:03 PM, in message 6133ad1f0907081203m7d9d263cndacfac447f3b0...@mail.gmail.com, Don Leahy don.le...@leacom.ca wrote: Sometimes NOINTERCOM is set by processes that transfer files using IND$FILE. This prevents the file

Re: Computerworld: London Stock Exchange to Abandon Windows

2009-07-08 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:35:29 -0700, Gibney, Dave wrote: A. Tongue was in cheek. Sorry, I didn't notice the smiley. B. As an example, the document imaging solution we use runs under Windows Server 200?, some dozen squatty boxes. If Windows Server 200? ran on zHardware, we could save several

Re: Sysplex timeout problems.

2009-07-08 Thread Skip Robinson
Here's the crux of the problem. Up to now, the term 'sysplex' has been used as if there were only one flavor. Not so. A sysplex with no CF is a 'basic' sysplex that uses only CTC for intersystem communication. - Without a CF, XCF on one system does not know for certain when another system has

Re: Planned IBMLink Outage July 10-11

2009-07-08 Thread Clark Morris
On 8 Jul 2009 10:01:22 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Planned IBMLink Outage July 10-11 This is to inform you that IBMLink will have a planned outage starting on Friday, July 10 at 8:00 PM Eastern Time through Saturday, July 11 at 8:00 AM Eastern Time (Saturday, July 10 from 01:00

Re: Looking for SYSOUT class

2009-07-08 Thread DanD
Not an easy answer... The majority of the time you can interrogate the SIOT. SIOTBYT5,SIOTDCLA tells you that SYSOUT= was coded and SCTOUTPN contains the specified class. If SIOTDCLA is not on then SCTOUTPN will contain the job's message class. If SCTOUTPN is * you have to get the class from

Re: Planned IBMLink Outage July 10-11

2009-07-08 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:00:01 -0300, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca wrote: On 8 Jul 2009 10:01:22 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Planned IBMLink Outage July 10-11 This is to inform you that IBMLink will have a planned outage starting on Friday, July 10 at 8:00 PM Eastern Time

Re: Planned IBMLink Outage July 10-11

2009-07-08 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Clark Morris Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 3:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Planned IBMLink Outage July 10-11 On 8 Jul 2009 10:01:22 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

Re: Planned IBMLink Outage July 10-11

2009-07-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I just wondered if they succeeded :-)) I know it is uncalled for I don't believe it's uncalled for. What I believe is that moving to a new platform should only be done if the new one is more reliable than its predecessor! - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: Computerworld: London Stock Exchange to Abandon Windows

2009-07-08 Thread Gibney, Dave
p.s. Shouldn't implementation of x86 and above be just a different set of millicode? Umm Well, I suppose you could look at it that way. According to Charles Webb's presentation on the z10 (or z6 as it was called at the time) 668 of the 894 instructions on the z10 are

Re: Planned IBMLink Outage July 10-11

2009-07-08 Thread Roach, Dennis (N-GHG)
We actually brought this up to them at SHARE during a restricted session. The concerns were that they were taking an outage during our main upgrade window, when we need them the most. Since they have a failover site, why couldn't they do a rolling upgrade? The response was a blank stare. Dennis

Re: Planned IBMLink Outage July 10-11

2009-07-08 Thread Ken Porowski
There have been occasional presentations at the Linux on System z Linux Executive Council meetings and I think a few papers on IBM's site. But I've never heard them talk about what application was moved (from/to) just that they moved n number of boxes/applications. The funny thing is that i

Re: Computerworld: London Stock Exchange to Abandon Windows

2009-07-08 Thread Ken Porowski
But isn't there a legal distinction between translation in memory which is transient and hard coded (in millicode or silicon)? -Original Message- Gibney, Dave And, yes John, there might be patent and license implications. I was asking about the possibility, not the likelihood or

Re: Computerworld: London Stock Exchange to Abandon Windows

2009-07-08 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ken Porowski Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 3:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Computerworld: London Stock Exchange to Abandon Windows But isn't there a legal

Equivalent of SYMBOLICRELATE for VSAM datasets?

2009-07-08 Thread McKown, John
OK, this is likely silly again. But I use SYMBOLICRELATE to have a base dataset name which can be used in JCL which runs on multiple systems. Each system has its own dataset (think configuration file). I do something like: DEF ALIAS(NAME(config.dsn) SYMBOLICRELATE(config.dsn.SYSNAME)) That way

Re: Computerworld: London Stock Exchange to Abandon Windows

2009-07-08 Thread Gibney, Dave
IANAL, nor am I an engineer :) But, I doubt millicode is frozen in hardware. I've always thought it to be machine instructions in ROM or what they call licensed internal code Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: Planned IBMLink Outage July 10-11

2009-07-08 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 16:38:30 -0400, Ken Porowski ken.porow...@cit.com wrote: There have been occasional presentations at the Linux on System z Linux Executive Council meetings and I think a few papers on IBM's site. But I've never heard them talk about what application was moved (from/to) just

Re: Preview: z/VM V6.1; IBM Declares New Architecture Level Set (ALS)

2009-07-08 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Does this mean that those of us who bought z9s in the past two years are already obsolete? -Original Message- From: Timothy Sipples [mailto:e99...@jp.ibm.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 3:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Preview: z/VM V6.1; IBM Declares New Architecture Level

IBM error messages getting worse?

2009-07-08 Thread John Mattson
Am I just getting more cranky as I age, or are IBM messages getting ever more obtuse? I just submitted a simple JCL error. Just put in a VOL=SER=XX where XX is a volume we do not have in our shop. Should be a simple error, with a simple IBM Message saying That VOLSER

Re: Preview: z/VM V6.1; IBM Declares New Architecture Level Set (ALS)

2009-07-08 Thread Bob Shannon
Does this mean that those of us who bought z9s in the past two years are already obsolete? Only if you want to run z/VM 6.1 and higher. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Computerworld: London Stock Exchange to Abandon Windows

2009-07-08 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:52:24 -0700, Gibney, Dave wrote: IANAL, nor am I an engineer :) But, I doubt millicode is frozen in hardware. I've always thought it to be machine instructions in ROM or what they call licensed internal code Machine instructions in memory. IIRC it goes into HSA. There is

Re: Planned IBMLink Outage July 10-11

2009-07-08 Thread Mark Post
On 7/8/2009 at 4:38 PM, Ken Porowski ken.porow...@cit.com wrote: There have been occasional presentations at the Linux on System z Linux Executive Council meetings and I think a few papers on IBM's site. But I've never heard them talk about what application was moved (from/to) just that

Re: Preview: z/VM V6.1; IBM Declares New Architecture Level Set (ALS)

2009-07-08 Thread Mark Post
On 7/8/2009 at 5:39 PM, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: Does this mean that those of us who bought z9s in the past two years are already obsolete? Only if you want to run z/VM 6.1 and higher. And to help customers out somewhat, the service life of z/VM 5.4 has been

Window under zVM or in LPAR

2009-07-08 Thread Gibney, Dave
Is where I thought this thread had diverged :) So, it's IBM that needs to write the millicode :) Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant

Re: Computerworld: London Stock Exchange to Abandon Windows

2009-07-08 Thread Tony Harminc
2009/7/8 McKown, John jmck...@healthmarkets.com:   p.s. Shouldn't implementation of x86 and above be just a different set of millicode? Dave Gibney Such microcode would likely require a license from Intel and perhaps even AMD (IIRC, Intel has licensed some of AMD's x86-64 functionality).

DFHSM Native 3590 tapes to virtual 3490E's

2009-07-08 Thread Wayne Bileci
We will be migrating DFHSM 3590 native tapes from a 3494ATL/B18 Vts environment to a new IBM TS7700. The 3590's will be recycled via HSM onto virtual 3490E media type 2 volumes(4000MB) in the new VTS. My question is - Is this feasible to take 3590(10GB uncomressed tapes) compressed data tapes

Re: Planned IBMLink Outage July 10-11

2009-07-08 Thread Clark Morris
On 8 Jul 2009 13:34:41 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: We actually brought this up to them at SHARE during a restricted session. The concerns were that they were taking an outage during our main upgrade window, when we need them the most. Since they have a failover site, why couldn't

Re: DFHSM Native 3590 tapes to virtual 3490E's

2009-07-08 Thread Dan
Sorry to take this thread on a side road so early but ... Wayne, this may benefit you as you may decide to rethink using VTS. I've see quite a few sites mention that they use VTS (or other virtuals) to manage their ML2 volumes. Is this a realistic thing to do? To perform a single dataset

Re: DFHSM Native 3590 tapes to virtual 3490E's

2009-07-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
If you have a virtual library you more than likely have an automated library. Why would you say that? The last two shops I worked at did not. We had a couple of non-VTS drives for external tapes, but none were automated. Why not simply use the automated library for ML2? I think your concern

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