Administrators here have been messing around with my email address and I
had to re-subscribe and this is to check if my postings arrive.
Kees.
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Thanks for all the further replies.
As mentioned, we have already put something in place that works for us and
we'll stick with that. I do like Ron Hawkins and Brian Fraser's suggestions
though and they appear a lot more elegant than what we implemented.
I also found the reason why FTP
I'm curious how you might be expecting to factor in IDRC
compression with
the data stored on the tape? I believe that the BLKCNT represents
what is
being stored, not what got sent down the channel.
On tape drives with IDRC or other compression, MVS is only aware of
logical blocks sent
Cast your mind back to GTFPARS. This IBM FDP would build seek
histograms
using IEHLIST VTOC Listings as input to map the extents of the
datasets on
the volume.
Ah Ron, the good old days. One of my tasks at NAB was using GTFPARs
to map out the SYSRES access pattern and build allocation JCL to
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For the past week I have been struggling with a performance problem in our
automation NetView. The NetView behaviour changed when OA29000 allowed
all messages to be considered action messages.
MFnetdisk was consider as an substitute options.
The desire state is to get the Datasets when initiate the connection using
FTP batch from the MF. when connecting to the Mainframe FTP from my station
I was able to send the Dataset.
we design a backup proccess to get rid from our 3590 tape library
Kees,
* When the message is an action message (descriptor code 1,2,3 or 11)
* and not a WTOR, domaction nodelmsg and hold disable is specified.
* This signifies that the NetView program does not expect to receive a
* DOM for this message and will not keep any internal record of it
* for future
You can also try DICE.COM
Good luck
Brian
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HI,
MFNetDisk can emulate 3490 tape without real tape and with automatic fast
mount.
You can run DFDSS in MF with the tape data in PC using MFNetDisk? (no need
FTP). PC can be Linux or Windows.
When ever you need the data back to MF you have it using the tape
emulation which access the tape
John,
I remember, and Ian Lee wouldn't believe me when I wanted to change the
ordering and VTOC location after we put SYSRES on the 3880-23. Now we do
this with volume placement in array groups, instead of datasets on volumes.
Ron
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Single point of Failure...not a good idea.
Are you running with ECS?
Bob
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Subject: Catalog re-location
We are
Listers -
I have been going through the archives to see if this was already answered.
Since I did not find anything quickly, I need to ask
We are getting ready to order the z/OS V1.11 from Shop zSeries
We only use 3390-9 at our shop. I have heard rumors that I will need a
Mod27 to download
On Tue, 4 May 2010 07:56:09 -0400, Lizette Koehler
stars...@mindspring.com wrote:
Listers -
We only use 3390-9 at our shop. I have heard rumors that I will need a
Mod27 to download this file.
Lizette - We only have mod-3's here and I sucessfully downloaded it here.
You just want to make
Single point of Failure - Other than John's saying he's moving to
Hitachi Mod 9's, he really didn't describe his storage. It would probably
be safe to assume ( watch me get burned on this one) he's got RAID DASD -
in which case he does have some protection. In my case, in the last 10
Lizette,
Your order will say how big the download is. There has been some
guidance given over time here on the forum that you need roughly 1.5x -
2.0x the order size in file system space. You can have multivolume ZFS.
Here is my JCL to allocate one.
//STEP1 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,REGION=128M
On 05/03/2010 11:22 AM, McKown, John wrote:
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This
Dave,
Thanks. I have not had much success with zFS files here. But using one for
the Server Pac download makes sense.
Lizette
Lizette,
Your order will say how big the download is. There has been some
guidance given over time here on the forum that you need roughly 1.5x -
2.0x the order
Hum. Makes me wonder if any hardware will ever introduce rational numbers. One
rational register which is 128 bits(?) long. It contains a 64 bit numerator
and 64 bit denominator. That solves the problem. Except for irrational numbers
such a pi, e, and others that I don't remember. And,
Hi all,
I try to hard code the SMS vts tape address but it shows the following
error message, it works if I change the tape address to TAPEV.
//SYSUT2 DD DSN=ZSMD.ZSMD137.XXX,DISP=(,PASS),
// UNIT=(8649,1,,SMSHONOR),LABEL=(1,SL)
IEFA100I ZSMD137$ BACKUP1 SYSUT2 ALLOCATION FAILED - SMSHONOR
Not sure, but a 4 digit UCB address does require a leading slash. Try:
//SYSUT2 DD DSN=ZSMD.ZSMD137.XXX,DISP=(,PASS),
// UNIT=(/8649,1,,SMSHONOR),LABEL=(1,SL)
In your example 8649 was intepreted as an ESOTERIC name, not a UCB address.
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Numbers like sqrt(2) are irrational, i.e., not expressible as a fraction having
an integer numerator and denominator.
Numbers like pi and e are transcendental. They are a very different kettle
of fish.
Rational numbers have decimal-fraction representations that are either
terminating
8649 is a unit address for our VTS tape device. TAPEV is ESOTERIC name
Under ESOTERIC name TAPEV which have 64 unit address 86XX
2010/5/4 McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com:
Not sure, but a 4 digit UCB address does require a leading slash. Try:
//SYSUT2 DD
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Subject: Re: why SMSHONOR doesn't work
8649 is a unit address for our VTS tape device. TAPEV is ESOTERIC name
here is the error message with /8649
IEFA100I ZSMD137$ BACKUP1 SYSUT2 ALLOCATION FAILED - SMSHONOR
SPECIFIED ON A NON-LIBRARY REQUEST
It works only if I given the TAPEV ..
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Tommy,
The first error you received indicated an invalid UNIT. This seems to be
corrected with the /8369
Now you are receiving a NON-LIBRARY REQUEST. This is different.
How are your drives defined in the VTS and in SMS? I think that your UCBs have
some issues with SMS. It might be in the
On Tue, 4 May 2010 09:32:03 -0500, McKown, John wrote:
So what's your point? A three character hex string in the UNIT is intepreted
as a UCB address. A four character hex string, unless prefix with a slash, is
intepreted as an ESOTERIC name. Period. That's how JCL works. It's just part
of the
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ar ithmetic
Numbers like sqrt(2) are
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here is the error message with /8649
IEFA100I ZSMD137$ BACKUP1 SYSUT2
Under the IODF I defined a ESOTERIC name TAPEV with 8610-864F
address, It works if I change the /8649 to TAPEV. I don't know why?
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On Tue, 4 May 2010 09:55:21 -0500, McKown, John wrote:
Numbers like sqrt(2) are irrational, i.e., not expressible as
a fraction having an integer numerator and denominator.
Numbers like pi and e are transcendental. They are a very
different kettle of fish.
So you're saying that a
On 4 May 2010 08:11:31 -0700, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin)
wrote:
I perceive intense agreement here, subject to paraphrase. Yes,
proper subset, so John might have more clearly stated, smaller
kettle of fish. All real numbers are either algebraic or
transcendental; mutually exclusive.
Yes, I realize there would be a single point of failure, and we probably
will not put them all on one volume.
We are not using ECS, and we are using PAV and RAID.
John Norgauer
Senior Systems Programmer
Mainframe Technical Support Services
University of California Davis Medical Center
2315
On 4 May 2010 06:37:45 -0700, john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown,
John) wrote:
Hum. Makes me wonder if any hardware will ever introduce rational numbers. One
rational register
which is 128 bits(?) long. It contains a 64 bit numerator and 64 bit
denominator. That solves the problem.
It
On Tue, 4 May 2010 09:27:22 -0600, Howard Brazee wrote:
On 4 May 2010 08:11:31 -0700, (Paul Gilmartin) wrote:
My intuition tells me algebraic numbers are countable, but I'll
welcome a more informed correction. (That was either a guess
on something I know, or a question about what I don't know.)
I would image that your STORCLAS ACS isn't assigning a STORCLAS to the
request if you code unit=dev#, instead of esoteric. AS I understand
SMSHONOR wants SMS attribute(s)?
Jack Kelly
202-502-2390 (Office)
From:
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Date:
05/04/2010 10:39 AM
Wow. I don't think I could bring myself to put all of my catalogs on the
same device - RAID DASD or no RAID DASD.
I worked in Storage Management only for a year back in the mid-90's, so
PAV's are something I'm not familiar with. Going by the name only (and some
very quick lookup via Google);
On Tue, 4 May 2010 09:36:47 -0600, Howard Brazee wrote:
Hum. Makes me wonder if any hardware will ever introduce rational numbers.
One rational register
which is 128 bits(?) long. It contains a 64 bit numerator and 64 bit
denominator. That solves the problem.
It could be. Depending on how
In a message dated 5/4/2010 10:35:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time, john.nor
ga...@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu writes:
Yes, I realize there would be a single point of failure, and we probably
will not put them all on one volume.
I like to compartmentalize by application and by application level;
i.e.
John,
I don't agree that this is a single point of failure. Darth's point that
disk arrays, be them HDS, EMC or whatever, are designed to be disaster
tolerant is perfectly valid. Any catastrophic event that will lose data on a
single volume in a disk array controller is likely to affect many, if
Scott - take a look at this link (watch the wrap)
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/dsichelp/ds8000ic/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.storage.ssic.help.doc/f2c_pavs_32pavh.html
Parallel access volumes (PAVs) allow your system to access volumes in
parallel (think accessing a volume through
Yes, I realize there would be a single point of failure, and we probably
will not put them all on one volume.
There is a school of thought with this type of thing (it can apply to more
than just catalogs) that more than 1 or 2 increases your chance of
having a problem.How many of your
So this SMSHONOR thing has really caught my attention. I've been looking
through documentation this morning as if I can get this to work in our
configuration, it will serve a need in our environment.
We're getting ready to move all our virtual tape from a Composite Library
with 2 Virtual
Since you (correctly) added the / before the unit address in the JCL, the
unit is no longer matching your FILTLIST in SMS. You need to add the / there
as well.
Tommy Tsui tommyt...@gmail.com 5/4/2010 10:58 AM
Under the IODF I defined a ESOTERIC name TAPEV with 8610-864F
address, It works if
Hello all,
We were putting our EDGUX100 exit in place for RMM on z/OS 1.11 and were
following the sample job provided in the manual to run the receive and
apply. When we ran the job, we got this in the apply step:
GIM40501E ** THE DISTLIB VALUE (ASAMPLIB) SPECIFIED FOR SRC EDGAPISR IN
SYSMOD
When did SMSHONOR come into being in DFSMS? I only seem to find doc on it from
z/OS V1.11 and nothing before.
Lizette
8649 is a unit address for our VTS tape device. TAPEV is ESOTERIC name
Under ESOTERIC name TAPEV which have 64 unit address 86XX
2010/5/4 McKown, John
I have questions for you, we are running CICS 3.2 and Z/OS 1.9 and brought up
a new CICS region during shutdown we were getting the following error messages
DFHTM1782I CICSP5 All non-system tasks have been successfully terminated.
BPXP018I THREAD 18E8DDC0, IN PROCESS 16777249, ENDED
The errors are harmless and do not prevent shutdown, but you can try closing
all tcp/ip connections and socket connections or
Anything else using Unix services (BPX).
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Am I the only one having trouble with CA web support. It claims I'm
logged on when I try to logon and wants me to logon when I try to view
anything secret, like my open issue. Or to open another issue!
I'd open an issue, but :)
Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State
Tommy, I wonder if you have correctly understood the description here
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2o361/2.1.6?SHELF=EZ2ZBK0I.bksDT=20100112161502
So, when you specify SMSHONOR, first SMS determines which devices it would
have selected based on either; specific
On 4 May 2010 11:49, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
On Tue, 4 May 2010 09:36:47 -0600, Howard Brazee wrote:
Hum. Makes me wonder if any hardware will ever introduce rational numbers.
One rational register
which is 128 bits(?) long. It contains a 64 bit numerator and 64 bit
Dear All,
Can someone tell me if Integrated Security Services Enterprise Identity
Mapping is a separate chargeable item to RACF ?
Crispin Hugo
Systems Programmer, Macro 4
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This email has been scanned for all known
There were changes made to Support Online over the weekend which
implemented a single signon. Have your tried the age old solution of
deleting
your cookies and closing the browser? If you are still experiencing a problem
you can contact support via the telephone at 1-800-call cai.
According to my z/OS 1.9 SMP zones the distlib for the EDGAPISR source
is AEDGSRC1
Therefore, change the statement as follows:
++SRC(EDGAPISR) TXLIB(SRCLIB) DISTLIB(ASAMPLIB) .
To
++SRC(EDGAPISR) TXLIB(SRCLIB) DISTLIB(AEDGSRC1) .
HTH,
snip
We were putting our EDGUX100 exit in place for RMM on
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Am I the only one having trouble with CA web support. It claims I'm
logged on when I try to logon and wants me to logon when I try to view
anything secret, like my open issue. Or to open another
Ah, yes, there it is! Thank you, Allan, I'd have sworn I had looked in
all the RMM libs for it, but I obviously didn't.
Greg
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According
Mark,
Exactly!
Sometimes we have to ask ourselves why we did things in the first place, and
test whether those things still apply.
In 1984 my Senior Sysprog taught me that we have many catalogs to isolate
catalog failure to just one or a few applications. That made sense, but the
catalog
Yes, yesterday I closed all my open browser (several, not all ca)
windows whacked all ca cookies and files, and the problem persists. Then
at greater inconvenience, I closed everything down and rebooted.
Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State University
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Hi Dave,
I forwarded your message on to one of the support managers here at CA.
She replied with the following:
Quote
There were changes made to Support Online over the weekend which
implemented a single signon. Have your tried the age old solution of
deleting
your cookies and closing the
Yup, just tried it again. With no Browser open, using internet option
from control panel, whacked all ca cookies, and files. Same result.
Retried and whacked everything since 4/27 including four files from this
try. Same result.
It shouldn't be this difficult, and yes I can open an issue on the
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Yup, just tried it again. With no Browser open, using internet option
from control panel, whacked all ca cookies, and files. Same result.
Retried and whacked everything since 4/27 including four files
Paul,
Briefly, as the polynomials having real, integral coeffficients are
countable/enumerable, so their zeros, the algebraic numbers, are countable too.
The transcendentals, on the other hand, are not countable; and they are thus
much more numerous in Cantor's sense than the algebraic
SMF type 42 S42DSN/S42DSVOL? I have partial SAS layouts for dispersal
if anyone wants them.
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All of the components of Integrated Security Services (EIM, OCEP, NAS, and
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Planning
On 4 May 2010 08:42:50 -0700, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin)
wrote:
3. Numbers that we cannot represent, such as e or pi.
FSVO cannot. Both e and pi are readily represented as sums
of infinite series.
Which may or may not be useful in our computations.
I wish CoBOL had a long type that is not limited by normal size
limits.A number that can be defined with a size as long as any
string the computer could handle. Sure, it would be as inefficient
as heck, but occasionally it would be useful.
Languages better suited for math could use it
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Many thanks Gerri
Crispin Hugo
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http://www.macro4.com/
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ALGOL 68 had such a data type, but it proved to be highly problematic.
Available storage was exhausted attempting to determine just how long the
longest representation of a long...long value could be.
John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA
I can get logged in, but I can't get to my products.
Linda
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FSVO cannot. Both e and pi are readily represented as sums of infinite
series.
Plus, they can be represented on a computer to the precision of the bits in the
hardware.
Is that enough?
BTW, transendental numbers are a subset of irrationals.
If a number can be represented as a fraction (a
Personally I think your single volume with many catalogs idea has merit.
I don't.
All the hardware in the world is NOT going to protect you from a logical (data
failure).
And, I'm not talking about just the catalogue.
There's the VTOC, the VTOCIX, the VVDS, etc.
Performance is not the only
It keeps crashing my IE6 session as soon as I start to enter my name.
I tried deleting just to cookies for ca.support and that didn't work so I
deleted all the cookies and temp files. Then I got further and was
able to entered my name and password. When I tried submitting
that it just hung.
I am interested in offline contacts with customers who have installed Tivoli
Output Manger Version 2.3 (HAAX230/5698-A26). In particular, I am interested
in user experiences, conversion experiences (from CA-View and
CA-Deliver), overcome problems, and tips and techniques.
William J. Smith
I believe transcendental numbers are a subset of irrationals is a valid
statement, but it sure *sounds* like 1970s psychobabble! Like, man...
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Ted MacNeil writes:
| BTW, transendental numbers are a subset of irrationals
If, as I think we may safely assume, 'transendental' is a misspelling of
'transcendental', this observation is incorrect.
An irrational number is a non-algebraic real number. And it is thus perhaps
possible to
On Tue, 4 May 2010 16:35:11 -0500, Mark Zelden mzel...@flash.net wrote:
It keeps crashing my IE6 session as soon as I start to enter my name.
I tried deleting just to cookies for ca.support and that didn't work so I
deleted all the cookies and temp files. Then I got further and was
able to
It's an artifact of my work computer. My logon works on my personal
laptop which has (up to now) never been to CA before.
IE8 on both machines. Vista on both, 64 bit on my own, 32 bit on the
workstation.
NO luck after giving up on selective cookies and just whacking them all.
Dave Gibney
Ted,
It helps if you read the email. I did not mention performance as a reason to
spread catalogs across volumes, or to cease doing the same. On the contrary
a warned that performance is something to consider if you do consolidate
your catalogs onto one volume.
I like it when you quote me
Amdahl had an internal tool that did this.
With the introduction of caching control units in the mid '80's, Amdahl
developed a marketing tool acronym'd (application of the Fairchild verbing
rule) CSIM -- Cache Simulator. The intended use of CSIM was to size caches
in 6880 and 6100 control
larrychenev...@verizon.net (Larry Chenevert) writes:
Amdahl had an internal tool that did this.
there were two different simulators done in late 70s ... one used
standard i/o vm370 trace and modeled activity. it was modified to take a
full 3330 configuration and output the configuration for
In a message dated 5/4/2010 7:55:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
larrychenev...@verizon.net writes:
post his name here because I never met him in person (only exchanged a few
emails) and don't know his current status. As far as I can tell he has
IIRC it came with the 9880 cache
The windows server does not know or care what the z/OS side looks
like. The 4G issue would only be relevant if the disk that Windows stores the
file on is formatted as FAT32. I have been backing up my z/OS data to a
Windows box using FTP for years with no problems, and have many files 4G or
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