Re: What happened to resumable instructions?

2008-02-07 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just noticed this thread today. I see there is a lot of speculation and incorrect statements, so let me try to clarify. First,

Re: CPU time differences for the same job

2008-02-07 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. Neal Eckhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We also had the batch window running so long that we were missing deadlines, and the CIO asked me to review the program

Re: CPU time differences for the same job

2008-02-06 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Schmidt) writes: I've been running VM more off than on since PLC 5 and I'm certain that the behavior that I referenced WAS in VM... at

Re: CPU time differences for the same job

2008-02-06 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Smith III) writes: This entire discussion is interesting to a VMer. VM has always done VTIME and TTIME: VTIME is the CPU time used by

Re: CPU time differences for the same job

2008-02-06 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL) writes: Most of the time, I had already told them that there was an I/O bottleneck, tape-drive contention, scheduling, etc.

Re: CPU time differences for the same job

2008-02-05 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wertheim, Marty) writes: The discussion on high speed buffers and internal cache misses is right on target. I've got a set of benchmarks that

Re: Random thoughts ...

2008-02-05 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Marchant) writes: I don't know what you mean when you say the cache line was split across domains. I forget whether a line was 32 bytes,

Re: Random thoughts ...

2008-02-05 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. some cache x-over discussion http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#78 CPU time differences for the same job http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#80 Random

Re: CPU time differences for the same job

2008-02-05 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Schmidt) writes: z/VM waits with a CPU loop (so it doesn't need to come out of a wait state when it is waiting) so it would run just as

Re: What happened to resumable instructions?

2008-02-03 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Gilmartin) writes: o Page faults? How are page faults handled for resumable instructions? Is a fault generated for any page in the

Re: Job ad for z/OS systems programmer trainee

2008-02-02 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Binyamin Dissen) writes: Well, back when I was starting SP'ing (Western Electric), slightly earlier than your time frame, that was the job.

Re: Data Erasure Products

2008-02-01 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anne Lynn Wheeler) writes: the issue normally reduces to what is the threat model? security classification tends to be associated with threat model where divulging

Re: Migration from Mainframe to othre platforms - the othe bell?

2008-02-01 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Comstock) writes: WAIT! STOP! Is an AIX machine a mainframe??? I don't think so. I know the definition is a slippery one, but to me a

Re: Migration from Mainframe to othre platforms - the othe bell?

2008-02-01 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lurndal) writes: Locus TNC (Transparent Network Computing). Morphed into OSF1/AD, IIRC. Unisys did a similar OS (SVR4/MK (mk for

Re: Migration from Mainframe to othre platforms - the othe bel?

2008-02-01 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Henry Willard) writes: Other than having AIX in the name and being ports based on some version of Unix, AIX/ESA and AIX/370 didn't have much

Young mainframers' group gains momentum

2008-01-31 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. Young mainframers' group gains momentum http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/013108-young-mainframers-group-gains.html Young mainframers' group gains momentum

Re: Data Erasure Products

2008-01-31 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen Mednick) writes: it's not a case of how valuable the data is, more importantly it's to do with what the security classification is that has been assigned to the data. Depending on the data's security classification dictates the media overwriting/sanitisation method

Re: New Opcodes

2008-01-30 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Marchant) writes: There may have been speculation within IBM that Macrocode, and the architecture that enabled it, was to make it easier

Re: New Opcodes

2008-01-29 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Marchant) writes: It also says, 894 instructions (668 implemented entirely in hardware) The latest POO lists about 750 instructions. I

Re: New Opcodes

2008-01-29 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: as an aside ... there was some similar speculation two decades ago about such stuff. there was even some speculation

Re: New Opcodes

2008-01-29 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: actually such speculation dates back three decades to the introduction of cross-memory instructions and dual-address

Re: New Opcodes

2008-01-29 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#29 New Opcodes justification is justification ... not all have to be there based on the same justification. as an

Re: Job ad for z/OS systems programmer trainee

2008-01-28 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL) writes: My degree is a major in computer science with a minor in statistics. My first job was as a capacity analyst. My degree

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-22 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Relson) writes: You can be certain that POST will always support the CS quick-post protocol and the LOCAL LOCK. re:

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-22 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Logan) writes: Sorry for the slightly off-topic question, but how come this persons posts are always so complicated to work through with

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-22 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: for another reference there was this article in ibm systems mag. 3 years ago although some of the details

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-22 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Farley, Peter x23353) writes: Granted, but the converse is also true: A posix-style semaphore or queuing mechanism is way overkill for the

Re: Wheeler Postings

2008-01-22 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Brock) writes: Here, for instance: http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.ibm-main/msg/7941aee482af5b48? i.e. also archived here

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-21 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Gilmartin) writes: I have believed, and other updates to this thread appear to concur, that WAIT/POST are older than CS. At some time,

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-21 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John) writes: Atomic is used quite a bit in computer science. Like the original Greek, it means indivisible. That is, when an atomic

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-20 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Gilmartin) writes: This is the Principles of Operation; it is not the Assembler Services manual. Note carefully the provided that clause.

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-20 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Logan) writes: Test and set works just fine too. They are both atomic. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#31 How does ATTACH

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-20 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Logan) writes: While all of that is interesting, and useful in its own right, none of that matters when a you want to perform a simple

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-20 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Logan) writes: While all of that is interesting, and useful in its own right, none of that matters when a you want to perform a simple

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-18 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lindy Mayfield) writes: What doesn't is that Cannatello's book has a page and a half on doing POST, with one example of how to change the ECB

Re: Flash memory arrays

2008-01-18 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-mai,alt.folkore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (, IBM Mainframe Discussion List) writes: Around mid-1999 EMC signed a multi-$billion contract to buy a HUGE number of little disks from IBM

Re: Re-hosting IMB-MAIN

2008-01-18 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Kern) writes: You could save some money by running SLES10 and the linux version of LSoft's LISTSERV product. No z/OS or z/VM

Re: Flash memory arrays

2008-01-18 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (, IBM Mainframe Discussion List) writes: Around mid-1999 EMC signed a multi-$billion contract to buy a HUGE number of little disks from IBM

Re: Flash memory arrays

2008-01-17 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clark Morris) writes: Au contraire. My USB key is FBA formatted in 512 byte sectors (I think it is one of the FAT formats available to Win 98

Re: Flash memory arrays

2008-01-17 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clark Morris) writes: There obviously would have to be a co-existence period where both architectures are supported. VSAM is already FBA as

Re: Flash memory arrays

2008-01-17 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John) writes: Only z/OS is stuck on ECKD formatted DASD. z/VM and z/VSE can both run on FBA. z/LINUX can run on FBA and/or on SAN/SCSI

Re: Flash memory arrays

2008-01-16 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Gould) writes: You have hit it the head. We had a unit that emulated a 2305 (don't remember which model) it worked well . except when we

Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-15 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Stack) writes: This appeared yesterday: http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=205601557 Nearly 70% of middle school teachers lack

Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-15 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008b.html#2 Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow? and related new post ... also in a.f.c ... about newly published

Re: File Transfer conundrum

2008-01-11 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary Green) writes: I lost track of who posted the original inquiry, so take this for what it's worth. If the requirement is in the financial industry, could the

Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-11 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick O'Keefe) writes: Since the other thread on this topic went off in a seriously OT direction I'll comment on this thread. That

Re: Radix Partition Trees

2008-01-11 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (W. Kevin Kelley) writes: I see that I screwed up and I owe Luther an apology. It should read ...tightest assembly language programs.. There were few problems with

Re: Radix Partition Trees

2008-01-10 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Fochtman) writes: Has anyone every seen any doc on using radix partition trees? I'm thinking it may have been one of the rainbow books. I vaguely remember

Re: Really stupid question about z/OS HTTP server

2008-01-09 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John) writes: But on the off chance that I'm wrong, I will ask anyway. We use Windows as our desktop OS blech. One nice thing about it is that when we go to

Re: Really stupid question about z/OS HTTP server

2008-01-09 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chase, John) writes: I *think* you could do that using digital certificates, but I've only read that part of the RACF doc once and have not tried it (yet). re:

Re: Inaccurate CPU% reported by RMF and TMON

2008-01-08 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason To) writes: We have encountered some weird problem last week and discovered that the total MVS CPU busy percentage reported by both RMF and TMON were

Re: IBM LCS

2008-01-08 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Alford) writes: I worked with an IBM 360/65 that had one MB of IBM LCS and later 2 MB of LCS from some other OEM when I was a student.

Re: JCL parms

2008-01-06 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes: No. The original design of OS/360 was that all programs were subroutines. A program written to be called

Re: z/OS and VM Control Blocks

2008-01-05 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lindy Mayfield) writes: It was only a question! (-: I certainly didn't mean to upset the status quo. ((--:: recent post from how i tried to

Re: For the History buff's an IBM 5150 pc

2008-01-02 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Schwarz, Barry A) writes: The Apple I went on sale in l976 so the author seems to have limited view of what a PC is. 5100 pc was announced

Re: It keeps getting uglier

2008-01-01 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thompson, Steve) writes: WANG with their WANG/VS systems came up with an idea that would have met your problem. The workstations had a button

Re: It keeps getting uglier

2008-01-01 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Gould) writes: Rick: FYI according to [EMAIL PROTECTED] the model 85 was the 1st 360 to have a HSB. re:

Re: It keeps getting uglier

2007-12-31 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Gould) writes: Its been at least 30 years I will yield to your memory. I just remember it giving me a blow by blow description on the format of the instructions

Re: It keeps getting uglier

2007-12-31 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Gould) writes: To refresh my memory was the 370 the first public machine that used the HSB? My memory says yes but as we have seen the POPS

Re: It keeps getting uglier

2007-12-31 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug Fuerst) writes: How do you figure that reverse engineering is an acceptable method of RD or design? Reverse engineering is an easy way to

virtual appliance

2007-12-29 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Boyes) writes: Put bluntly, see my other note on using CMSDDR. Getting a 1 pack VM system up on the Flex box works MUCH better, CMSDDR understands CMS file

Re: It keeps getting uglier

2007-12-28 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John P. Baker) writes: The Diagnose instruction has been documented in every Principles of Operation manual issued for the S/360 architecture

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

2007-12-20 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Conmackie, Mike) writes: And the money I've paid into Social Security all my life will be returned in my retirement with interest ! ss is pay as you go system

Re: It keeps getting uglier

2007-12-19 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Payne) writes: Has anyone from the Hercules team read IBM's rather stunning admission (on the above page - paragraph 176) that there is a confidential version

Re: About 1 in 5 IBM employees now in India - so what ?

2007-12-18 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nothing wrong with India - but selfishly, I want jobs where I am, even though I have it better off than those who need jobs there. Of course, in a global

Re: The future of PDSs

2007-12-12 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IBM created the PDS a long time ago - giving us some conveniences that fit within its OS design.Other computer companies either did not see this advantage or had OS structures that handled it other ways. Do we use PDSs now because that's what we have been using

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-09 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes: The only operating systems that are legal to run on Hercules are Linux, and MVS 3.8 (I think). Shirley all

Re: Open z architecture and Linux questions

2007-12-07 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wayne Driscoll) writes: Not really answering either question, but on the topic of Q2, the recent port of Open Solaris to System z was done

Re: Crypto Related Posts

2007-12-07 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the x9.59 financial standard approach was then to fix the underlying weakness, lack of strong authentication ... which also then eliminated

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-06 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Mulder) writes: But actually it did not take decades, as the original release of MVS/XA in 1982 functionally supported 16-way SMP. Of

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-06 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#76 T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007t.html#76 T3 Sues IBM To Break its

Re: Open z/Architecture or Not

2007-12-06 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Shannon) writes: Sure. The thousands of in-stream usermods that were written prior to XA, and which greatly inhibited subsequent upgrades.

Re: Open z/Architecture or Not

2007-12-06 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The OCO-wars (object code only) in the early 80s were somewhat turbulent. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007u.html

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-05 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Van Dalsen, Herbie) writes: And who came up with XA I/O? Amdahl, in order to do MDF and share channels had to do floating I/O interrupts, and

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-05 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Van Dalsen, Herbie) writes: And who came up with XA I/O? Amdahl, in order to do MDF and share channels had to do floating I/O interrupts, and

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Bowler) writes: IBM worked long and hard over many years to successfully establish S/360 and its successors as *the* standard computer

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: some recent topic drift in thread that wandered into run-up/justification for 360 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-04 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lindy Mayfield) writes: I was thinking (dreaming) today about what if when I giving training for MVS stuff and each student had their own

Re: Crypto Related Posts

2007-12-03 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick O'Keefe) writes: We've been moving towards secure data transmissions with business partners (with testing starting in about a week)

Re: Data Center Theft

2007-12-02 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Sipples) writes: In fairness, the DS6000 is physically relatively small, although I wouldn't want to carry one by myself on my

Re: Why isn't OMVS command integrated with ISPF?

2007-11-29 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Gilmartin) writes: Anyone who believe that's a fundamental limitation of 3270 hardware that can't be worked around: o Has never used

Re: SMF Under VM

2007-11-27 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kopischke, David G.) writes: From what I understand, we just use canned processes to extract SMF, load databases and create reports. But

Re: Running REXX program in a batch job

2007-11-18 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Gilmartin) writes: I believe Cowlishaw's book reports that Rexx was developed in the VM and MVS environments concurrently. It flourished in the former and

Re: CSA 'above the bar'

2007-11-14 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes: PSA is real address 0; it's absolute address 0 for at most one of the processors in the complex. Neither

Re: [ClassicMainframes] multics source is now open

2007-11-12 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Farley, Peter x23353) writes: Thanks a lot for the info and the link. Most interesting. Another important piece of computer history available

Re: ATMs

2007-11-09 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (R.S.) writes: Yes, I can. AFAIK z/OS version is not popular one. I know *big* ATM installation which migrated from z/OS to NonStop. People

Re: ATMs

2007-11-09 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Sipples) writes: It's an interesting bit of history that the first Tandem machine wasn't available until 1976, well after the first

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-09 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (, IBM Mainframe Discussion List) writes: I made a mistake. A track not in the cache would take on the order of 20 milliseconds, so that

Re: Real storage usage - a quick question

2007-11-08 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Knutson, Sam) writes: You should have the PTFs for z/OS APAR OA17114 installed if you are using paged fixed buffers in DB2 V8. Not having it

Re: Real storage usage - a quick question

2007-11-07 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Veilleux, Jon L) writes: In z/OS 1.8 the memory management is much more conducive to large memory. They no longer use the least recently used

Re: System 360 EBCDIC vs. ASCII

2007-11-07 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Sipples) writes: An awful lot of modems and serial connections had to handle 7-bit, too, complicating the user experience for dial-up

Re: CSA 'above the bar'

2007-11-06 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Van Dalsen, Herbie) writes: Someone wants to create a shared block of memory CSA/not and share it between programs. My understanding is that a 24-bit program can

Re: High order bit in 31/24 bit address

2007-11-06 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Samson) writes: As for 32-bit mode (TSS) I don't have a POPS for that architecture but I suspect the HO bit is treated as any other. TSS did not use the sign

Re: CSA 'above the bar'

2007-11-05 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John) writes: Just as a thought. Could somebody write a subsystem which starts at IPL time, does the shared GETMAIN, then (here's the rub) somehow have that

Re: CSA 'above the bar'

2007-11-05 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Binyamin Dissen) writes: Does z/VM use virtual storage? comment in this thread asking how many times has virtual memory been reinvented http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#51 Translation of IBM Basic Assembler to C? some footnotes about the science center

Re: CSA 'above the bar'

2007-11-05 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL) writes: That's why there can be a 'double paging' penalty for a LINUX (or z/OS, or z/VM, or...). z/VM, and its predecessors, has always had the capability to defines more storage than is on the box. It even has swap files. i had other problems with the

Re: CSA 'above the bar'

2007-11-04 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
Steve Samson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The discussion suggests that the dead zone represented an arbitrary decision. However it is absolutely necessary to preserve compatibility with programs dating back to OS/360. If a 24-bit or 31-bit address is interpreted as or expanded to a 64-bit address

Re: IBM System/3 3277-1

2007-10-28 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to comp.sys.ibm.sys3x.misc,alt.folklore.computers,bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If memory hasn't failed me, we read mark sense cards on something that was called a 1230.

Re: IBM System/3 3277-1

2007-10-28 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to comp.sys.ibm.sys3x.misc,alt.folklore.computers,bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 3277 had quite a bit of local intelligence ... it was possible to do some custom stuff

Re: IBM System/3 3277-1

2007-10-27 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to comp.sys.ibm.sys3x.misc,alt.folklore.computers,bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. bbreynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This thread started about the 3277-001 used on a System/3 Model 15 (would that be a 5415?): as

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