In at least some cases the system will tell you if you need to IPL with
CLPA even if you forget it, as if you omit it in such cases you can get
ILR027D NUCLEUS/PLPA FMID MISMATCH, RE-IPL OR REPLY 'GO' FOR COLD START
I'm not positive exactly what checks it makes to decide that.
Tom Schmidt wrote
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at 11:20 AM, Pommier, Rex R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I saw that one too. My guess is that the warning about having
multiple datasets is that NIP processing has to read the directory
trees of every PDS it encounters
Trees? For PDS?
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/08/2006
at 10:30 AM, Jerry Ragland [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Please let me know is there any other ways I can enable CLPA.
It's already enabled. I'd advise you to run the PARMLIB syntax
checker. Even if it doesn't[1] resolve your issue, it might warn you
of other
.CICS.SDFHLPA(DSK32E),
CICSTS22.CICS.SDFHLPA(S4CIC1),
.
.
from the replies I understand that specifying CLPA parameter in IEASYSAW
will automatically enable CLPA during IPL and all the **.SDFHLPA members
will be added to the LPA area. In that case my environment is CLPA enabled.
Is there a way
,CHRDR), ADDITIONAL CMB ENTRIES
Is there anything I can do to check whether the last IPL was
CLPA enabled and if its not enabled how to enable it.
If you are certain that IEASYSAW is being used for the IPL, then
something is definitely wrong and you should contact IBM Support for
assistance
On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 02:49:53 +0100, Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You'll note the recommendation *not* to have CLPA permanently specified in
your IEASYSxx member.
After a change to the LPALST concatenation, CLPA need be specified for one
IPL and one IPL only.
snip
That may be the
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I believe that I see what the root problem is: You have two libraries
with
several identically named members in them
in the MLPA? This would be member IEALPAxx. Both
the FLPA and MLPA override the PLPA.
Rex
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On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 02:49:53 +0100, Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You'll note the recommendation *not* to have CLPA permanently specified
in
your IEASYSxx member.
After
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[ snip ]
To add to Tom's excellent and probably correct analysis, I would remind
you that CICS **REQUIRES** that the SDFHLPA modules (particularly
DFHCSVC and DFHIRP) in a multi-release installation be
as many times as it
appears in all specified LPALSTxx members. Specifying the data set name
more than once can cause additional processing during IPL, when the CLPA
processes.
I find it odd that the section I quoted is immediately ahead of the section
that you quoted. I suspect that, perhaps
... insteresting how things can be interpreted differently. :-)
If interpreted the way you do, what would be the reason? To IPL
without CLPA after a CLPA IPL failed? Sorry... too late. What
other reason? Perhaps you accidently saved a production LPALSTxx
member and the system crashed an instant after
could have had a significant impact on IPL times. Just a hunch.
Rex
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happened to the
missing data sets.
Chris Mason
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IBM suggests that you have an IEASYSxx member
IBM suggests that you have an IEASYSxx member that does not specify
CLPA.
And this seems to imply the following:
1. CLPA should not be specified in IEASYS00 since it cannot be
overridden (there is no a negating option).
2. An image setup should have multiple overriding IEASYSxx members (xx
NE
On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 13:27:04 -0500, Jakubek, Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not sure if IEASYS00 is mandatory (will MVS come up if IEASYS00 is
absent?). If not then an image could be set up to IPL with just one xx
IEASYS suffix (and 00 absent form PARMLIB concatenation altogether).
I think it
/* NOTE: DO NOT DELETE THE BLANK LINE AT THE TOP OF THIS MBR! */
Btw Mark: what's the purpose of a blank line?
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Btw Mark: what's the purpose of a blank line?
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On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 14:30:04 -0500, Jakubek, Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Btw Mark: what's the purpose of a blank line?
Because it doesn't work without it?? :-)
This explanation from the MVS Initialization and Tuning
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Btw Mark: what's the purpose of a blank line?
Because it doesn't work without it?? :-)
I see ... your blank line designates a dummy/null IEASYS00 ...
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On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 02:57:50 +0100, Chris Mason wrote:
Tom
Finally the camel's back-breaking straw has been posted.
I guess it might also explain Jerry's ***problem
know is there any other ways I can enable CLPA. Also in the
IEASYSAW member I can see CLPA mentioned -
CLOCK=00, SELECT CLOCK00
CLPA,
CMB=(UNITR,COMM,GRAPH,CHRDR), ADDITIONAL CMB ENTRIES
Is there anything I can do to check whether the last IPL was CLPA enabled
and if its
the IPL.
Please let me know is there any other ways I can enable CLPA. Also in
the
IEASYSAW member I can see CLPA mentioned -
CLOCK=00, SELECT CLOCK00
CLPA,
CMB=(UNITR,COMM,GRAPH,CHRDR), ADDITIONAL CMB ENTRIES
Is there anything I can do to check whether the last IPL was CLPA
of the MVS system commands manual.
HTH
Rex
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Hi all,
We have our new CICS TS 3.1
On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 17:48:17 +0100, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
IMHO the best way is to put CLPA into IEASYS00 and forget the problem.
Overhead is small.
Agree... unless you use checkpoint/restart. I've only been at a
couple of shops where that was an issue. But long ago I once
had an
snip---
Agree... unless you use checkpoint/restart. I've only been at a couple
of shops where that was an issue. But long ago I once had an auditor
complain about CLPA being S.O.P. if you weren't changing anything as it
destoyed a working version of
.CICS.SDFHLPA(S4CIC1),
.
.
from the replies I understand that specifying CLPA parameter in IEASYSAW
will automatically enable CLPA during IPL and all the **.SDFHLPA members
will be added to the LPA area. In that case my environment is CLPA enabled.
Is there a way to check the contents of LPA area
I know you can specify D PROG,LPA,MOD=xx to see if a specific LPA Modules
is loaded.
There are probably some other tools that will do a more interrogation of LPA.
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Thanks for the reply Rex.
Yes, IEASYSAW is the member used during
On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:18:26 -0600, Jerry Ragland wrote:
in IEASYSAW LPA is given as DB. In the LPALSTDB file the **.SDFHLPA is
added correctly.
LPALSTDB file -
.
.
SYS1.SICELPA,
SYS1.CICSTS31.CICS.SDFHLPA(DSK32E),
CICSTS22.CICS.SDFHLPA(S4CIC1),
.
What were the error messages, if any, issued
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On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 17:48:17 +0100, R.S. wrote:
IMHO the best way is to put CLPA into IEASYS00 and forget the
problem.
Overhead is small.
Agree... unless you use checkpoint/restart. I've only been
On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:48:44 -0600, Tom Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:18:26 -0600, Jerry Ragland wrote:
in IEASYSAW LPA is given as DB. In the LPALSTDB file the **.SDFHLPA is
added correctly.
LPALSTDB file -
SYS1.SICELPA,
SYS1.CICSTS31.CICS.SDFHLPA(DSK32E),
no change in the text I just pasted from the manuals.
Chris Mason
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Thanks for the reply Rex.
Yes
to criticise poor usage in the possibly
forlorn hope that the tide of misuse will recede.
Chris Mason
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On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 02:57:50 +0100, Chris Mason wrote:
Tom
Finally the camel's back-breaking straw has been posted.
I guess it might also explain Jerry's ***problem***.
Yes, I take *issue* with the misuse of the English language. Having just
supported a new word (necrodendtitic) on the grounds
On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 02:57:50 +0100, Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Finally the camel's back-breaking straw has been posted.
I guess it might also explain Jerry's ***problem***.
Yes, I take *issue* with the misuse of the English language. Having just
supported a new word (necrodendtitic) on
the identical
definitions in many online dictionaries so I expect this first hit will do.
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