Bill,
There is no problem in reading spool files, including JESJCL. If you have
SDSF, you can write a small CLIST/REXX that will run in a batch step, call
SDSF (Or what ever you use for spool browsing) to copy that file to a
temporary file and then analyze it in your program (It can be the rexx
Do you REXX? This is the best language to deal with strings, allocations and
dynamic variables on the fly. It is also run natively under TSO (and TSO
batch) and thus, supports ALLOC commands.
Itschak
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What is the tape status in volcat?
Itschak
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Tape comes up
Andrew,
Compared to what others have done to this topic, you are in a good root
Itschak
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There are some rexx execs that looks for the model, MSU and MIPSage by doing
CB scan. I used to have one, I'll try to find it. But of course you have the
charts from IBM and others.
Itschak
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Well, IMS is nor dead for sure. But think you are a Chinese bank with some
hundreds of account. Now try to access it with DB2 or Anabas with a
reasonable response time.
I have seen few TPF systems in my life. Like old soldiers, they don't die,
they are outsourced. This is because in the systems
Anton,
I am not in a stage I have to select an Enterprise database. I just wondered
IF (Adabas is faster, as I was told) and WHY (IBM and others don't ask for
TPC tests for Mainframe DBs).
Should I regret asking that?
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some portion of the database is having utilities run.
Mike
On 10/7/07, Itschak Mugzach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I spoke few days ago with an ADABAS specialist that claimed that
ADABAS is much faster and has low overhead compared to IMS and DB2. Is
this true?
Itschak
I spoke few days ago with an ADABAS specialist that claimed that ADABAS is
much faster and has low overhead compared to IMS and DB2. Is this true?
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Other then the IMS planning guide, you may ask at IMS Data Base Discussion
List [EMAIL PROTECTED] I went all versions one by one, so I did' nt
pay attention to gap analysis.
Shana Tova and Gmar Hatima Tova,
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Subject: Strange behavior of START command(Keyword parms)
Hi,
I'm testing START command on a z/os 1.7 system and
The ability to share datasets between MF and other platforms is part of
the Enterprise storage device. Hitachi data systems supply that by Rapid
Exchange. EMC has their own technology, I think that IBM doesn't have
support. HRX is unit address depended and is configured by the hardware
tech. In
CICS is not a solution as it does not support QSAM and trying to access
sequential datasets or libraries will cause CICS to cease.
Itschak
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CA LOOK had this (D alloc,j=), but it is not supported anymore. I believe
that sysview from CA has a replacement for this, that you can run from the
system console.
Itschak
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And... I think your machine model is H70.
Itschak
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OK, thanks for the update...
Sorry, You're right. The mips chart was taken from phil's website.
Model MIPS MSUs Group
7060-H30 63 GOLC 40*
7060-H50 127 GOLC 50*
7060-H55 See 7060-H50
7060-H70 209 GOLC 70*
7060-H75 See 7060-H70
Itschak
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Subject: Re: CA-DISK
Are there any other OEM products that preform similar functions as
CA-Disk ?
Hello Lindy,
Yes, it is possible to do with REXX. The Console Command is documented in
TSO/E System Programming Command Reference. There is some sysprog and Racf
admin work to do to allow you to use the command. Usually, you can get the
response from your command while using a token to identify
SMF is the proper place to look. SDSF keeps only jobs that haven't purged
yet. In case you insist on SDSF, look at the SDSF manuals for SDSF batch
mode and write a small rexx to extract our data from the screenshots.
Itschak
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Gadi,
In the EXEC statement add parm='SDB=input'. This will allow the large block
interface to be activated. See OSDFSMSdfp Utilities for details. Btw, 3590
supports large block sizes of 256K. You specified 224K which was uses on old
3590 models.
Itschak
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This makes z900/z890 perfect solutions for a DRP site. A low MSU rate
machine with 1-15 CBUs. Best deal for a five years deal.
Itschak
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Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 4:06 PM
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Eric,
You are not limited. No body knows all. When you are asked about CICS or any
think else, always say: I am a qualified system programmer. I don't have to
know everything in detail, as it all written in the manual. I have the
ability to identify the problem in almost any area and RTFM. This
Afaik Control-T has the ability to stack files on tapes in order to
optimize/utilize tape space. You probably do not want to mount tape all day
to copy files from one tape to another and do only one write on the proper
tape. You should use a tape library product like CTT, but I am sure this is
Try ncal
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On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 06:15:24 -0500 David Lesser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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:I
The question is how important is to get the data from JCL symbolic variables
and not from a parm field. If it SO importand, and there is no prety way
to do this (although I think there is by jes subsystem calls to read the
original job jcl), I would consider one of the following:
1. The bed
I would write a small Rexx panel exit to do a hex comparison...
Itschak
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Subject: ISPF Panel Issue with HEX Data
I am trying to get the $SYSNAME variable value. As we are running
MONOPLEX, this variable should hold the value SYSTEM/. Quering the
valiable value in OMVS (sysvar SYSNAME) returns the SMFID. The manual
(UNIX System Services Programming: Assembler Callable Services
Reference) states as follows:
Or... You must specify the exact family name. otherwise the name is not
found. Are you sure that you write the persons name correctly?
from the error message: Hint: the last name must be spelled exactly and
completely, although the case is not significant.
Itschak
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I would use the IBM way Object code. Object code is 80 bytes in length
and can be covered with ptf text letter. BTW, you do not need to
supply the CICS interface (e.g. cics stub module for cobol) , if your
customer has CICS to run your product, they should have the interface
installed.
Hello Gadi,
Start with IP Configuration Guide (appendix B) by creating Keys. in 1.7 there
is a started task SSLSERV (look at GSK.SGSKSAMP(GSKSRVR). Book name is F1A1BK61
in library reader.
Itschak
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May the library directory is handled by LLA/CSV and LLA not refreshed
after a compress?
Itschak
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If XYZ need the authority, why shouldn't he get them directly? This way
you will know who is using the resource, not a generic user that you
have to investigate who used his access authorities. It is exactly like
putting ABC's password on a paper near the keyboard or terminal.
I wouldn't give
And I bought Consul z/Secure to do the same ... ;-)
Itschak
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For the 'fat fingers guys' you can implement a 4 eyes principle. There
are few products that does that (although the other two eyes might be
the same as the originals, but in another panel).
Itschak
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Try logon applid=
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Hi,
I got this question when I was
Lately we saw an increase in our ECSA storage consumption. As we recycle
CICS rarely (once a 30 days, or more), we need to expand edca size from
time to time. I looked into this storage (Omegamon, Storage, PAM EDCA)
and it look like it is occupied by RUWP RUWA.
Why CICS does not release this
NJE is RACF Jess2 sensitive. Look into the other side syslog. The
sysout might not be found on their spool because Jes deleted it. Ask
your business partner to search the log and also to see if they changed
Jes2 Node definition, for example, RECEIVE=SYSOUT.
Itschak
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It look like you are using a TSO / Console SEND command, not an email.
The message might not relate to the email, but to a notify parameter you
have in your JOB card. What I am trying to say is, that the message is
gennerated as the jobs ends, not as part of your application program. to
remove
Hello Gadi,
You can use some of the server pack procedures:
1. find tour taget libraries volume (Why do you need your Dlib at all?)
2. Define the new Master catalog.
3. Copy with DFDSS physical copy with NEWNAME preficixng any HLQ to the
datasets.
4. Run the catalog job
Yes, unfortunately its in Israel. Has H30 as well.
Itschak
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Subject: Used 7060 H50
Any one have a used 7060 H50
I wonder if any of you is using MN STATUS command and if so, what is the
overhead involved.
Regards,
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Look at this manual: z/OS DFSMSdfp Advanced Services, Document Number
SC26-7400-01. You can find it book manager under shelve DGT
Itschak
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Itschak Mugzach wrote:
NFS is one way. We use it from time to time but it is response time
as well) as a
replacement to FTP. The pros are NFS is free, Disk technologies are not.
Hardware is fast but supports sharing of sequential files only.
Itschak
Itschak Mugzach
Manager, OS/390 systems support
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Hello Rex,
Few days ago I drop an email with a sample program using the ANTTREXX
interface. The interface, which I don't know its future yet, can be used
to query on Flashcopy with small changes to my program which one of its
features is the pair list.
Itschak
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Well, now it works. Thanks to everybody who helped.
Itschak
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We don't serialize our test system with the MIM ring, but keep from
cataloging datasets on shared catalogs or even editing/writing on shared
DASD except those allocated to the test system or to our private
libraries.
Itschak
After making some changes in BPXPRMxx, FWKERN still refuse to start, but
with other reason: EDC5138I NO SUCH DEVICE OR ADDRESS. I enclosed the
trace file, It doesn't say WHO is the device or address he can't find. I
suspected this is the Ipstack and listed it (see below). This is the
right value.
I am in a catch 22 situation. When I add the following to BPXPRMxx, TCP
lose access to OSA cards, but if I drop it, I get msg EDC8114I ADDRESS
FAMILY NOT SUPPORTED.
Required BPXPRMxx update:
NETWORK DOMAINNAME(AF_UNIX)
DOMAINNUMBER(1)
Hello Jan,
The ANTRQST macro is documented in DFSMSdfp Advanced Services, Document
Number SC26-7400. I found the ANTTREXX interface in sys1.samplib when I
looked for an easier way to control PPRC status. The sample uses the XRC
syntax (session and so on), but I changed it to PPRC. Did you have
be better to open a PMR ask the actual status about
the
ANTTREXX interface.
When I've more news, I'll let you know.
Jan
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Re: Itschak Mugzach saying:
Hello Jan,
The ANTRQST macro is documented in DFSMSdfp Advanced Services, Document
Number SC26-7400. I found
Jan,
Yes, This was my first thought - write in in ASM. But the REXX way is
Ask it in the morning, get on production at 10:00 Coffee Break.
Itschak
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hello all,
I just finished developing a new tools to report the mirrored dasd. It =
is based on the interesting ANTTREXX interface. It runs much faster then
=
multiple Cquery and have several reporting options. If you like it, I'll
=
send the Panel as well.
Regards,
Itschak
/* rexx */
Hello,
I would like to have some advice on the subject above. We are in a
junction of moving from MF scheduling to Enterprise scheduling and it is
a good time to check our current solution. ESP looks a good solution for
our needs, and I would like to know how popular is this migration, How
Write your self a program (rexx, clist, asm etc.) that will run as
step-1 and will generate a return code based on the day of week. the
rest of the job will be conditioned on this step RC.
Itschak
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Machine model does changed while doing model change until you IML. You can't
even see the new CP(s) using MVS commands. Most vendors relay on model for
password check.
Itschak
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Edward Jaffe
Abend 0c7 teach you that A is not in the numeric format described by
the field definition. Take a look into your input file. It should lock
like this: x'nnnC' (positive OR x'nnnD' fop negative.
Itschak
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Cobol always use ZAP to convert PD formats.
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If you are moving 3
Gadi,
Value clause will help only for the first MOVE command. His problem is
definitely A not numeric as Cobol uses ZAP=Zero target with PD and ADD PACK.
Itschak
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בן אבי
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The Adsd is the module name generating the message code (4
digits)...
Itschak
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I would look at Jes2 parmlib at STCCLASS REGION parameter.
Itschak
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Gadi,
DO LU userid NORACF TSO. It will print your TSO segmemnt (stored in racf). As
you can see, COMMAND is a field in this segment.
TSO INFORMATION
---
ACCTNUM= XXX
PROC= $SPFQ
SIZE= 4096
MAXSIZE= 00010240
UNIT= SYSDA
USERDATA=
COMMAND=
Regards,
Itschak
There is nothing better then invoking ISRDDN and the, trying to LOAD
RECEIVE. It will tell you where it took it with all module library
information.
Itschak
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The DA command displays active tasks running on the lpar depending on
the DADFLT values. If you have all the variations in
IN,OUT,READY,TRANS,TSU,JOB) (like this), you don't have to specify ALL.
If you don't - you do have to.
Itschak
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Uri,
As it becomes ISV game, You may also check CIM from HostSystems at
http://www.hostsystems.de/en/cim_news.htm/. Email me if you need more
information.
Itschak +972 522 986404
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Hello Jim,
This is a sample I used for checking. It is from the manual, but I don't
remember which
Itschak
CMPCHKSTART
BSVA-CMPCHK(,15)
DC AL1(8),CL8'CMPCHK'
DC CL10'SYSDATE'
DC CL8'/SYSTIME/'
*
Gadi,
How big is your CSA (below). look at your monitor to determine the size of free
OSCORE. You should not use all the private area by cics and allow some OSCORE
for MVS getmain.
Itschak
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Gadi probably specify Region as 0M, or at least more then 16M. It tells
MVS to use all the private area below. It is probably a too large DSA
problem.
Itschak
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I always runs apply accept with Compress(all). Applying fixes into a
live system is something I wouldn't do. Clone the system (only target
libraries) into a single pack with small page datasets for testing.
Itschak
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Brian,
Have a looks at IBM's mips charts for z/9 bc (that's where I looked).
you can see a lose of 2.5% per CP.
Itschak
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Hello Brian,
Some questions:
- Did your research took into account the common storage overhead? other
synchronization overhead?
- I know that CPU speed of the 50 Mips proc. is equal to the 100 Mips
proc. The difference is in total capacity. But its like the supermarket.
You can have 2
I wonder if there is a document that describes guidelines or rule of
thumbs when selecting machine configuration, engine wise. I mean, if you
get the mipsage on a uniprocessor, why have it on two? your advice is
welcome.
Itschak
I am looking for some hints, PowerPoint, etc. on how to train our
operations. Thanks for your advise.
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train your Z machine operation stuff?
Three simple words.
Whip.
Chair.
Gun.
:D
Itschak Mugzach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am looking for some hints, PowerPoint, etc. on how to train our
operations. Thanks for your advise.
Itschak
A load module was created from a Cobol 2 source. I wonder how can I
determine the cobol compiler parameters used to generate the
object?(like, rent, ssrange, data(), etc. I remember (or just think so)
that Endevor (CA) has an analysis tool. Is there any other freeware that
does that?
TX
Itschak
I would protect IBM product usage by specifying their name in IFAPRDxx
with STATE(DISABLED).
ITschak
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Are you running your edit macro in background (BDISPMAX(100))? if so,
just call your edit with a larger number of display screens like this:
EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,DYNAMNBR=100, PARM='ISPSTART CMD(%editmyds)
BDISPMAX(9)'
and, as Walt mentioned, you can specify Control list (and conlist /
Power on reset (POR).
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Hi:
I actually don't remember how to make
I don't thick it is possible. You need to attach the execs as new tasks
(you may check if START will work for you), otherwise you will not be
able to listen to requestors in your main program. The profile dataset
is not a problem as you can share it and use newappl(xxx) to save task
related parms.
Try ISRDDN (or TSO ISRDDN) DUP command.
Itschak
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On
We have a VTS in our primary site and a VTS in the DR. We tested few
methods:
1. Export at primary, import at backup (may be limited tapes).
2. If you don't have a VTS at DR, Ditto has a function to read
Exported files, but you need to have a 3590 drive and... It runs so
slow!
3.
Didn't you miss the ')' char in the )attr section declaration?
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We have a high disconnect time on a IMS vsam database. device is HDS
9980V. I guess this is because the channel program is performing SEEK
for a specific block, or Search with Key. Can't see any other reason why
this happens.
Thanks for your advise.
Itschak
We do. But this database is almost read only (98.8% of the total IO for
the disk drive the DB resides on). There is no RPM miss on that kind of
device, so I guess it is a search with key or Seek. I looked at the SSAs
but couldn't see any special argument that might cause that.
Itschak
We don't use racf to protect SDSF, but if no smf record was created for
this failure, you can audit the user activity and look into SMF to see
the racf profile and required authority.
Itschak
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A dataset is pre-allocated using the TSO allocate command using a
Cylinders with primary allocation of cylinders and 333 secondary
space with a list of volumes. When writing into the dataset in a
separate step, I would expect that on the second volume, A primary
allocation space will be
Good Morning,
Our MF is equipped with two OSA cards. The following devices are
defined: Vipa, card1 and card2. The Beginroutes statement defines some
static routes, all of them, except one, uses card2. The default route is
also pointing to card2. There is one route statement that defines a
Generally, devices are considered Online/Offline based on the device
definition in HCD. MSTRJCL located a dataset (pointed by the catalog) on
an offline device. As MSTRJCL does not enqueue the datasets it uses, you
can move one the proclibs, uads, etc datasets to another dataset and put
the device
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