Re: SMPE question

2008-12-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/03/2008 at 04:02 PM, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: How would I determine which of these 3 PTFs apply to my system? The release is actually the trailing characters of the FMID. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: SMPE question

2008-12-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/03/2008 at 02:10 PM, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: What is this trying to tell me? You don't have the toleration PTF for the FIXCAT functionality. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Mark Pace
I'm doing RECEIVE processing for the latest RSU and I got a lot of these errors. What is this trying to tell me? sample: ++HOLD(HCYT71Q) FIXCAT FMID(HCYT71Q) REASON(AA27056) RESOLVER(UA44721) ** THERE IS A SYNTAX ERROR IN THE CONTROL STATEMENT AT COLUMN 17. ** THERE IS AN ERROR IN A ++HOLD MCS

Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Matt Dazzo
You may need SMPE ver 3.5 or add required PTF's to ver 3.4 to handle new FIXCAT FMID. Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/3/2008 2:10 PM I'm doing RECEIVE processing for the latest RSU and I got a lot of these errors. What is this trying to tell me? sample: ++HOLD(HCYT71Q) FIXCAT FMID(HCYT71Q)

Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Mark Pace
My concern here is that, as I understand it, a ++HOLD is to prevent a piece of maintenance from being applied. With this syntax error will the PTF end up being applied if I run APPLY? Obviously I'm an SMPE newb. On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Matt Dazzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may need

Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Bob Shannon
FIXCAT is a recent introduction. You can continue without change but may see additional error (noise) messages. PTFs are available to SMPE 3.4 to tolerate FIXCAT. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Lizette Koehler
after the general availability of z/OS 1.10. Lizette -Original Message- From: Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 3, 2008 2:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SMPE question My concern here is that, as I understand it, a ++HOLD is to prevent a piece of maintenance from being

Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Mark Pace
Message- From: Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 3, 2008 2:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SMPE question My concern here is that, as I understand it, a ++HOLD is to prevent a piece of maintenance from being applied. With this syntax error will the PTF end up being applied

Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Lizette Koehler
release prior to 3.3 will not be able to process ++HOLDs after the general availability of z/OS 1.10. Lizette -Original Message- From: Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 3, 2008 2:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SMPE question My concern here is that, as I

Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Mark Pace
. Note: Users running a SMP/E release prior to 3.3 will not be able to process ++HOLDs after the general availability of z/OS 1.10. Lizette -Original Message- From: Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 3, 2008 2:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SMPE

Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Field, Alan C.
Even more embarrassing, it is on the first line of just about every output page. TO the right on mine it shows DATE 11/14/08 TIME 14:27:02 SMP/E 35.05 SMP/E Rel 3.5 (35). Alan Subject: Re: SMPE question Yes, that part I knew. The embarrassing part is that I'm still trying to figure out

Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Matt Dazzo
-Original Message- From: Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 3, 2008 2:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SMPE question My concern here is that, as I understand it, a ++HOLD is to prevent a piece of maintenance from being applied. With this syntax error

Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Gibney, Dave
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SMPE question Yes, that part I knew. The embarrassing part is that I'm still trying to figure out how to get SMPE to tell me what versions of software I'm running. It was so much easier in VSE. MSHP RETRACE

Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SMPE question Yes, that part I knew. The embarrassing part is that I'm still trying to figure out how to get SMPE to tell me what versions of software I'm running. It was so much easier in VSE. MSHP RETRACE

Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Pace Yes, that part I knew. The embarrassing part is that I'm still trying to figure out how to get SMPE to tell me what versions of software I'm running. It was so much easier in VSE. MSHP RETRACE. It's on

Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:58:29 -0500, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, that part I knew. The embarrassing part is that I'm still trying to figure out how to get SMPE to tell me what versions of software I'm running. It was so much easier in VSE. MSHP RETRACE. Mishap? :-) Other response

Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Mark Pace
Mark - Thanks. That was close to what I was looking for. Here is what I am trying to figure out. This is from the APAR to fix the holddata problem *Applicable component levels* RF00 PSY UO00700https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/set2/ordermedia/shopCart?ptfs=UO00700 UP08/01/28 P F801 RG00

Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Patrick Lyon
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 16:02:26 -0500, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark - Thanks. That was close to what I was looking for. Here is what I am trying to figure out. This is from the APAR to fix the holddata problem *Applicable component levels* RF00 PSY

Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 16:02:26 -0500, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark - Thanks. That was close to what I was looking for. Here is what I am trying to figure out. This is from the APAR to fix the holddata problem *Applicable component levels* RF00 PSY

Re: (Hopefully) simple SMPE question

2007-05-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/20/2007 at 09:33 AM, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Those datasets are related to the GLOBAL zone and not the TLIB or DLIB. Some, not all. You really don't want to share, e.g., MTS between target zones. So yes they are shared. Sharing the data sets

(Hopefully) simple SMPE question

2007-05-20 Thread Support, DUNNIT SYSTEMS LTD.
I have a CSI dataset with many different target and dlib zones defined for different products and different versions of those products. Can the following datasets be shared between all the zones? SMPPTS, SMPLTS, SMPMTS, SMPSDS, SMPSCDS Specifically, I'm dealing with a skeleton JCL job that

Re: (Hopefully) simple SMPE question

2007-05-20 Thread Lizette Koehler
Jerry, Those datasets are related to the GLOBAL zone and not the TLIB or DLIB. So yes they are shared. And yes all your different TLIB and DLIB zones can point to those datasets from your one global zone. In otherwords, they are used during the RECEIVE Process for any product. Then when you

Re: (Hopefully) simple SMPE question

2007-05-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 20 May 2007 09:33:04 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: Those datasets are related to the GLOBAL zone and not the TLIB or DLIB. So yes they are shared. And yes all your different TLIB and DLIB zones can point to those datasets from your one global zone. Ummm. No. From: Title: SMP/E

Re: (Hopefully) simple SMPE question

2007-05-20 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Sun, 20 May 2007 09:33:04 -0400 Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Those datasets are related to the GLOBAL zone and not the TLIB or DLIB. So :yes they are shared. And yes all your different TLIB and DLIB zones can :point to those datasets from your one global zone. In otherwords,

Re: (Hopefully) simple SMPE question

2007-05-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 20 May 2007 19:39:54 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: You definitely do not want to share SMPMTS between different versions of the same product. Or SMPLTS. SMPPTS should be OK. Here, TFM fails me (or I didn't R carefully enough). My intuition is that SMPPTS belongs to the GLOBAL zone and

Re: (Hopefully) simple SMPE question

2007-05-20 Thread R.S.
Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Sun, 20 May 2007 19:39:54 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: You definitely do not want to share SMPMTS between different versions of the same product. Or SMPLTS. SMPPTS should be OK. Here, TFM fails me (or I didn't R carefully enough). My intuition is that SMPPTS

Re: (Hopefully) simple SMPE question

2007-05-20 Thread Gerhard Adam
I have a CSI dataset with many different target and dlib zones defined for different products and different versions of those products. Can the following datasets be shared between all the zones? SMPPTS, SMPLTS, SMPMTS, SMPSDS, SMPSCDS Specifically, I'm dealing with a skeleton JCL job that

Re: SMPE question RECEIVE ORDER

2006-07-05 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
Basically we have CLASSPATH set to /usr/lpp/smp/classes as the documentation states. The actual class files being looked for by the job are in /usr/lpp/smp/classes/com/ibm/smp. What I don't understand is how SMP knows to look beyond /usr/lpp/smp/classes for the class files. What is telling

SMPE question RECEIVE ORDER

2006-06-28 Thread Jasen Kloeppel
We are using RECEIVE ORDER here and it is working fine. I am trying to understand how one piece of this works and have not been able to find any documentation to explain it. Basically we have CLASSPATH set to /usr/lpp/smp/classes as the documentation states. The actual class files being

Re: SMPE question RECEIVE ORDER

2006-06-28 Thread Skip Robinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 06/28/2006 12:37 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject SMPE question RECEIVE ORDER We are using RECEIVE ORDER here and it is working fine. I am

Re: SMPE Question

2006-03-03 Thread Big Iron
Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SMPE Question I'm looking for the following APARS in the SMP Global zone. PQ92344 OA14861 Can I find

Re: SMPE Question

2006-03-02 Thread Big Iron
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SMPE Question I'm looking for the following APARS in the SMP Global zone. PQ92344 OA14861 Can I find these by doing

SMPE Question

2006-03-01 Thread Howard Rifkind
I'm looking for the following APARS in the SMP Global zone. PQ92344 OA14861 Can I find these by doing a cross zone query or do I need to first do a search for the associated PTF numbers on say IBMLINK? Thanks. - Yahoo! Mail

Re: SMPE Question

2006-03-01 Thread Neubert, Kevin (DIS)
By PTF. For example, APAR PQ92344 for FMID EDU1H01 is UQ91568. Regards, Kevin -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SMPE Question I'm

Re: SMPE Question

2006-03-01 Thread Howard Rifkind
:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SMPE Question I'm looking for the following APARS in the SMP Global zone. PQ92344 OA14861 Can I find these by doing a cross zone query or do I need to first do a search for the associated PTF numbers on say IBMLINK? Thanks

Re: SMPE Question

2006-03-01 Thread Matthew Stitt
Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SMPE Question I'm looking for the following APARS in the SMP Global zone. PQ92344 OA14861 Can I find these by doing a cross zone query or do I need to first do a search for the associated PTF numbers on say

Re: SMPE Question

2006-03-01 Thread Skip Robinson
: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SMPE Question I'm looking for the following APARS in the SMP Global zone. PQ92344 OA14861 Can I find these by doing a cross zone query or do I need to first do a search for the associated PTF numbers on say IBMLINK

Re: SMPE Question

2005-12-21 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin [ snip ] Howard did specify GROUPEXTEND, which should automatically APPLY needed corrective maintenance. In Howard's text, I see: SYSMOD STATUS TYPE FMIDreqUISITE SYSMODS, SUPBY

Re: SMPE Question

2005-12-21 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
Do you mean that the PTF that fixes AQ64238 is in PE status? But its not in PE status. More specifically, SMP/E doesn't think its PE because there's no HOLDDDATA in the global zone to indicate that its PE. Notice in the SYSMOD Status Report AQ64238 is NOT annotated with an asterisk (*).

Re: SMPE Question

2005-12-21 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/20/2005 at 03:01 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Howard did specify GROUPEXTEND, which should automatically APPLY needed corrective maintenance. No; it will only automatically apply needed maintenance that is in the PTS. It is quite common for hold data

Re: SMPE Question

2005-12-21 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/20/2005 at 03:57 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Nonetheless, since AQ64238 is known to SMP/E and manifest to the customer, wouldn't it be a courtesy to casual and naive (such as me) browsers, to make AQ64238 known in IBMlink, perhaps as a keyword for

Re: SMPE Question

2005-12-20 Thread Staller, Allan
1st suggestion - Remove the FORFMID and just APPLY S() GROUPEXTEND. Any remaining HOLDE* need to be resolved. Actions should be (at least) reviewed . HTH, snip APPLY PTFS BYPASS ( HOLDSYSTEM ) JCLINREPORT FORFMID( HOS1110 ) CHECK GROUPEXTEND SELECT ( UK00286 )

Re: SMPE Question

2005-12-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/19/2005 at 03:03 PM, Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The following show up in an SMPE Causer report and I'm confused what to resolve next...the chicken or the egg. Neither; first read. Do I have to fix the missing and/or hold items Yes, except for

Re: SMPE Question

2005-12-20 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 09:24:51 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Do I have to fix the missing and/or hold items ... and when I do it just leads to more things to resolve. Do you mean that the PTF that fixes AQ64238 is in PE status? That's the only thing

Re: SMPE Question

2005-12-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) said: Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 09:24:51 -0500 Do you mean that the PTF that fixes AQ64238 is in PE status? That's the only thing that I see that could potentially lead to more things to resolve. Everything else is a question of reading the

Re: SMPE Question

2005-12-20 Thread Bob Rutledge
Paul Gilmartin wrote: Howard did specify GROUPEXTEND, which should automatically APPLY needed corrective maintenance. In Howard's text, I see: SYSMOD STATUS TYPE FMIDreqUISITE SYSMODS, SUPBY SYSMODS, HOLD RE UQ67494 APPLIED PTF HIP6140 PRE UQ66384 HOLDE

Re: SMPE Question

2005-12-20 Thread Ulrich Krueger
If this is a live APPLY (as opposed to an APPLY CHECK), don't you have to specifically state the Hold Reason codes, e.g., BYPASS(HOLDSYS(ACTION,DOC)) so that the APPLY process can include the requisites? Also, if the APPLY is for one specific PTF or APAR, SELECT(UK00286) should suffice. AFAIK, the

Re: SMPE Question

2005-12-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Bob Rutledge said: Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:39:42 -0500 ... is it possible AQ64238 is a typo for PQ64238? No. AQ64238 would be an APAR fix issued prior to the PTF fixing PQ64238. (Multiple such would be BQ..., etc.) UQ6888x will SUP AQ64238 plus any other

Re: SMPE Question

2005-12-20 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 15:57 -0700 on 12/20/2005, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re: SMPE Question: Nonetheless, since AQ64238 is known to SMP/E and manifest to the customer, wouldn't it be a courtesy to casual and naive (such as me) browsers, to make AQ64238 known in IBMlink, perhaps as a keyword for PQ64238? I

SMPE Question

2005-12-19 Thread Howard Rifkind
The following show up in an SMPE Causer report and I'm confused what to resolve next...the chicken or the egg. Do I have to fix the missing and/or hold items and when I do it just leads to more things to resolve. Thanks. APPLY PTFS BYPASS ( HOLDSYSTEM ) JCLINREPORT