Re: included text from every other reply in a email chain..

> On Aug 19, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Tony Thigpen wrote: > > Unfortunately, my company REQUIRES that any replies include everything in the > past. Too many people were taking things out of context and replying to them > and CC'ing others. Then the others would then get involved

Re: How Does One Make a Module NOEXECute?

On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 20:47:10 -0500, Bill Woodger wrote: > >As to having a bit of diagnostic code just before your table, just pretend it >is data. After all, any hll calling the table is going to pretend your table >is code. > I believe C supports initializable external data objects, both

Re: GMail vs. COBOL

What the top-posting vs. bottom-posting folks don't seem to recognize is that both have their uses. In a business conversation, a thread may go thru 20 exchanges, and then someone new gets added. That person is going to be completely lost without the history to follow up on, and the existing

Re: How Does One Make a Module NOEXECute?

Can you be specific about where the hll programs come in to it, and why/how marking it non-executable would help with that? If you just make it non-executable there'll be an Sx06 abend won't there? As to having a bit of diagnostic code just before your table, just pretend it is data. After

Re: OPERLOG vs SYSLOG

I presume your colleagues are using SDSF to peruse OPERLIB. Have they tried to FILTER for just the system of interest? At 11:19 AM 8/19/2016, you wrote: We run both SYSLOG and OPERLOG. We archive both in daily GDGs in the generating sysplex that eventually migrate. I personally use OPERLOG

Re: How Does One Make a Module NOEXECute?

On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 11:53:10 -0400, Charles Mills wrote: >> And what about dumps? > >Operating systems have magic tricks up their sleeves. > >> One motivation was to protect intellectual property > >Risking topic drift there but a major motivation is security. ...

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: IPLing z/OS 2.1+ with no NIP console

Same here - We tried the integrated route and then separated again. Management philosophies are too different between the stacks. Jerry Whitteridge Manager Mainframe Systems & Storage Albertsons - Safeway Inc. 925 738 9443 Corporate Tieline - 89443 If you feel in control you just aren't going

Re: IPLing z/OS 2.1+ with no NIP console

Mainframe FICON and switches are separate from network and open systems. By design. ;-) . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-302-7535 Office robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From:

Re: IEATDUMP and DSN= Anyone Use?

On 08/19/2016 02:55 PM, Andy Higgins wrote: If I had to guess (and I do) I'd say the complaint (RC8 RSN3A?) is due to the trailing blanks in the pattern. The example in the book has a pattern with no trailing blanks. hth Andy On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 13:54:15 -0400, Steve Thompson

Re: IPLing z/OS 2.1+ with no NIP console

Do these chpids connect to any fiber switches not controlled by you? I got called very early one morning due to a bunch of channel errors. At the data center where I worked, fiber switches were not owned by our group. The brainiacs who did own responsibility for the switch decided to take

Re: Syncsort step running too long

Did you determine what the problem was? My input would have been to compare Syncsort default parameters in case someone forgot to migrate them to the new release. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Real Userid when specifying USER=

SMF type 26 (job purge) has the submitting user ID - but _not_ task identification (job name/job id/reader time). We have for some reason jobs submitted by the scheduler which run IEBEDIT to "submit" another job and that job in turn "submits" another - all with user ID propagation. They are

Re: PDSEGEN Update - V4.0

Lionel fumble fingered http://www.lbdsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lionel B Dyck Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 2:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: PDSEGEN Update - V4.0 I've made a number of

Re: AW: Re: RFE to add new sizes to AVGREC and IDCAMS Define

I see and understand some people's desire to directly allocate in KB, MB, GB (or, coming soon to an array near you, probably TB, and PB). What I like about AVGREC is the ability to allocate in _records_, eliminating tedious space calculations when I have a good estimate of the size of a

PDSEGEN Update - V4.0

I've made a number of usability enhancements that will make this ISPF application even better. Download it at www.lbdsfotware.com If you haven't tried using PDSE Version 2 Member Generations because you're not sure how to access them (because ISPF is very non-intuitive and you don't have a

Re: LOAD VTAM Logmode Table

Hi John, I don't think that you "need" to IPL in order to implement this change. You can try changing the VTAMLST definition for the LU named A03AT001. I am not sure if this is an APPPL definition or NOT. Once changed in VTAMLST, you can try a V

Re: LOAD VTAM Logmode Table

Hi Elardus, We are using NVAS. I agree that EMSMODE is an NVAS logmode table. No IEV043* messages. I shall get the ops to bounce the Development LPAR on the W/E. Best regards, Jon Bathmaker On 8/19/2016 8:37 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Jon Bathmaker wrote: I am a VTAM usedtobe (in

Re: IEATDUMP and DSN= Anyone Use?

If I had to guess (and I do) I'd say the complaint (RC8 RSN3A?) is due to the trailing blanks in the pattern. The example in the book has a pattern with no trailing blanks. hth Andy On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 13:54:15 -0400, Steve Thompson wrote: >I am having a problem with

Re: Survey question: what do you specify for HVCOMMON?

We currently have HVCOMMON set to 132G. We had to do this for DB2. When DB2 starts up it looks to see how much high common is defined. Thanks.. Paul Feller AGT Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On

IEATDUMP and DSN= Anyone Use?

I am having a problem with IEATDUMP. I am trying to use I've read the manuals. I've searched the manuals. If I understand correctly, resolves to nnn such as 001, 002, etc. So why is the system complaining about this construct (at execution time, not during assembly): DC

Re: How Does One Make a Module NOEXECute?

> If it has executable code, then it has to be RENT. Why? Otherwise every (dumb) user gets his own copy? > Remember Heinlein -- The reason we can't make things foolproof is because > fools are so ingenious (or something very close to that). I always say that if you make it foolproof nature

Re: included text from every other reply in a email chain..

I usually top post because I don't know how to make Outlook.com do otherwise. That being said, I kind of disagree with what you said about judicious snipping "defeating the benefit" of bottom posting. In fact it enhances it, as it allows the reader to first browse the quoted message and then

Re: How Does One Make a Module NOEXECute?

On 08/19/2016 11:41 AM, Charles Mills wrote: Why NOREUS Ah! In other words, because the table is modified by its users. I pictured a read-only table. BTW, I like @Woodger's idea of solving the problem by giving it an executable entry point that does WTO 'WTF do you think you're

Re: How Does One Make a Module NOEXECute?

On 08/19/2016 11:35 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:40:38 -0400, Steve Thompson wrote: I am working on a problem where I have a loadable table. So far I have specified NOREUS, OL (Load Only). In my hazy memory going back into the '70s, I thought there was a way to mark a

Re: Delta Outage

* One time, this guy handed me a picture of him, he said "Here's a picture of me when I was younger." Every picture is of you when you were younger. "Here's a picture of me when I'm older." "You son-of-a-bitch! How'd you pull that off? Lemme see that camera... What's it look like? "

Re: included text from every other reply in a email chain..

Unfortunately, my company REQUIRES that any replies include everything in the past. Too many people were taking things out of context and replying to them and CC'ing others. Then the others would then get involved because they thought the original poster was in the wrong. So, the rule came

Re: expiration date in a catalog entry

DASD data sets can have various retention periods (or expiration dates), either by SMS Data Class or JCL. In CA Disk you can use the DSCL EXPIRE command to remove DASD data sets which are past their retention date. There is likely a DFSMShsm (or maybe DFDMSdss) equivalent is for this, and

Survey question: what do you specify for HVCOMMON?

What do you specify for HVCOMMON= in IEASYSxx? Are you letting it default to 64GB? Do you have applications using above-the-bar common? How much? Thanks, Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: included text from every other reply in a email chain..

I'm with Skip here. And while we're at it, why do companies/people still insist on putting out these idiotic "legal notices" which seem to hold no relevance in law anywhere, or any relevance to anything. It's just 'noise'! (And clutters up emails!) ALH -Original Message-

Re: OPERLOG vs SYSLOG

We run both SYSLOG and OPERLOG. We archive both in daily GDGs in the generating sysplex that eventually migrate. I personally use OPERLOG almost exclusively, but in practice, during 20 years of parallel sysplex, I have had to deal with very few cross-member problems. Some of my colleagues are

Re: included text from every other reply in a email chain..

Amen to that. The days of dial-up lines and 5MB hard drives are long past. Time is precious; megabits, megabytes and arcane rules are not. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Friday,

Re: included text from every other reply in a email chain..

As a top-poster, I routinely delete all legal notices. Those are someone else's problem. I also delete the IBM-Main boiler plate (unless I forget). I do not attempt to decide what's relevant and what's not. Again, someone else's problem. I also try to reply to the latest post in a thread even

Re: How Does One Make a Module NOEXECute?

> And what about dumps? Operating systems have magic tricks up their sleeves. > One motivation was to protect intellectual property Risking topic drift there but a major motivation is security. When you read about various vulnerabilities, what is the phase you see again and again? Buffer

Request for Knowledge Center to search within book.

https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe_ID=93288 -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: How Does One Make a Module NOEXECute?

> Why NOREUS Ah! In other words, because the table is modified by its users. I pictured a read-only table. BTW, I like @Woodger's idea of solving the problem by giving it an executable entry point that does WTO 'WTF do you think you're doing?'/ABEND U911. Trivial to do and a great,

Re: Catch 22 with UA82156 / OA50517

W dniu 2016-08-19 o 16:51, Jousma, David pisze: It was missing from my 2.2 Serverpac. I added the DDDEF manually when I came across this PTF. It seems someone forgot about SHZCINC directory, that's why PTF was issued. Now we have elements, but not a DDDEF, maybe someone forgot to create

Re: How Does One Make a Module NOEXECute?

On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:40:38 -0400, Steve Thompson wrote: >I am working on a problem where I have a loadable table. So far I >have specified NOREUS, OL (Load Only). > >In my hazy memory going back into the '70s, I thought there was a >way to mark a module NX (not executable) without having to

Re: Delta Outage

On 8/18/2016 9:36 PM, Edward Gould wrote: No offense but I remember you differently from a SHARE conference 20??? years ago in Chicago. You look younger, and I guess thats good. Back then, I was still playing in rock bands and I had long hair down the middle of my back. If I somehow look

Re: How Does One Make a Module NOEXECute?

If you do a STORAGE OBTAIN and build a data structure, or tables, arrays or whatever, is that storage effectively NOREUS, REUS or RENT? Now, if you specify IDENTIFY (if I remember this correctly) you now make your area available to any program that can do a LOAD for the name you used. Now

Re: Catch 22 with UA82156 / OA50517

It was missing from my 2.2 Serverpac. I added the DDDEF manually when I came across this PTF. _ Dave Jousma Manager Mainframe Engineering, Assistant Vice President david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546

Re: included text from every other reply in a email chain..

What makes it even more fun is when some of us top post and others bottom post - like I'm doing here. :-) If I do post something to a chain that has any length to it, I try to follow the convention of the chain as well as deleting irrelevant information. Rex -Original Message-

Re: included text from every other reply in a email chain..

On 2016-08-19 09:11, David Boyes wrote: include ONLY the relevant portion of the note you’re replying to. It focuses your reply on the important part of what you’re trying to say. We don’t need to see 11 copies of the required disclaimers, etc. What David said. And BTW, doing so more or less

Re: SMP/E: SMPWRKn and GLOBAL zone

In general, we add a DDDEF for SMPPARM to every SMP/E ZONE we utilize. That DDDEF points to a data set with our customized GIMDDALC member. Then we don't have to worry about SYSUTn, SMPWRKn, SMPTLIB, or any of the DDNAMEs that are used for SYSOUT(*). That way, if one of those DDDEFs is

Re: How Does One Make a Module NOEXECute?

>So anyone have any ideas how to avoid the HLL programmer doing a >CALL and executing data? > What is really the issue? It's going to get picked up in program testing if someone does it. If an HLL program attempts to CALL and instead you make the table otherwise unavailable it is just going to

Re: How Does One Make a Module NOEXECute?

Looks like LET(0) will mark it NX if you can force some sort of warning. What do you get for an unsupported option? PARM='LET(0),FOO' Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: Friday, August 19,

Re: expiration date in a catalog entry

Only Forever is valid for DASD datasets, otherwise ignored. Valid for Tape datasets. On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Paul Schuster wrote: > At what point in time does the 'expiration date' of a data set get written > to its catalog entry? > > It seems you can allocate

Re: rename and move SMPE global zone.

On 8/18/2016 8:50 PM, jerrysconsult...@gmail.com wrote: With my meager SMPE knowledge I am confused about when to use zonecopy vs zonemerge vs zoneexport/zoneimport to rename and move the global CSI and to rename the distribution CSI. Could some kind soul please point me in the right

Re: Catch 22 with UA82156 / OA50517

W dniu 2016-08-19 o 15:41, John Eells pisze: R.S. wrote: W dniu 2016-08-19 o 14:28, Pfister, Nathan pisze: The dataset, SHZCINC, was added in z/OS 2.1 I believe. It is for zEDC. The DDDEF should point to /usr/lpp/hzc/include/IBM/ See:

Re: How Does One Make a Module NOEXECute?

Not the answer to the question you asked but why NOREUS? How does that help? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 9:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: How Does

Re: Catch 22 with UA82156 / OA50517

R.S. wrote: W dniu 2016-08-19 o 14:28, Pfister, Nathan pisze: The dataset, SHZCINC, was added in z/OS 2.1 I believe. It is for zEDC. The DDDEF should point to /usr/lpp/hzc/include/IBM/ See: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.e0zm100/at3genf.htm Thank

How Does One Make a Module NOEXECute?

I am working on a problem where I have a loadable table. So far I have specified NOREUS, OL (Load Only). In my hazy memory going back into the '70s, I thought there was a way to mark a module NX (not executable) without having to specify an unresolvable reference while not using LET. What I

Re: SMPE receive order broken this morning?

On 8/18/2016 10:44 AM, b...@jndata.dk wrote: Hi' We had same issue (SSL mandatory) with SMP/E Receive Order jobs this week and we have corrected our jobs to recommend FTP option, so now we gets a new FTP problem: EZA1701I >>> RETR /2016081863489/PROD/GIMPAF.XML SC2035

Re: Catch 22 with UA82156 / OA50517

W dniu 2016-08-19 o 14:28, Pfister, Nathan pisze: The dataset, SHZCINC, was added in z/OS 2.1 I believe. It is for zEDC. The DDDEF should point to /usr/lpp/hzc/include/IBM/ See: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.e0zm100/at3genf.htm Thank you. I found

Re: included text from every other reply in a email chain..

>>... Personally, I hate bottom-posting, but the >>majority here seem to be in favor of it, so I comply. I don't > >bottom-post except on listservs. >I go a somewhat different way: I trim all the material to which I'm not >directly replying, especially .sigs, disclaimers, and legal

Re: SMP/E: SMPWRKn and GLOBAL zone

SMPJHOME can also be used " To support the HTTPS communications with the IBM Automated Delivery Request server..." ( from SMP/e User's Guide). Al Nims Systems Admin/Programmer 3 UFIT University of Florida (352) 273-1298 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Catch 22 with UA82156 / OA50517

Exactly /usr/lpp/hzc/include/IBM/ I've also checked in some PMR before applying in my systems. --- *Lucas Rosalen* Emails: rosalen.lu...@gmail.com / *lrosa...@pl.ibm.com

Re: LOAD VTAM Logmode Table

Jon Bathmaker wrote: >I am a VTAM usedtobe (in 1995) trying to get VTAM to load a new logmode table, >EMSMODE, into its tiny little mind so that I can use a 62x160 screen. I have >been able to get it to load the table to my active session with the following >command: >F

Re: SMP/E: SMPWRKn and GLOBAL zone

On 8/18/2016 1:14 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: ... Of course, the presence of DDDEF entries for SMPWRKn in the global zone causes no harm, but they will never be used. Will they be allocated even if never used? Will there be consequences of an allocation failure? The SMPWRKn DDDEF entries in

Re: SMP/E: SMPWRKn and GLOBAL zone

On 8/18/2016 10:57 AM, R.S. wrote: It's worse, when you *sometimes* need a dataset which has no entry. This is the case for SMPJHOME. According to documentation it is used during ACCEPT, but mentioned neither in sample nor in "ServerPac-delivered" CSI. From the SMP/E Commands book, the ACCEPT

Re: Catch 22 with UA82156 / OA50517

The dataset, SHZCINC, was added in z/OS 2.1 I believe. It is for zEDC. The DDDEF should point to /usr/lpp/hzc/include/IBM/ See: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.e0zm100/at3genf.htm -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Catch 22 with UA82156 / OA50517

This is PTF for z/OS 2.2 (only) APPLY fails with the following message: ALLOCATION FAILED FOR SHZCINC BECAUSE THERE IS NO DD or DDDEF (wording changed a little) I checked - Indeed, I don't have DDDEF named SHZCINC. I'm pretty sure no one deleted it since the system is just installed from

Re: OPERLOG vs SYSLOG

We do this for the most part. We do run IEAMDBLD to offload daily syslog to GDG for audit/diagnostic purposes. We do keep 1 days worth of syslog on spool however, because we have many users that use ROSCOE to view syslog. I don't believe it knows anything about OPERLOG. We also have a

Re: OPERLOG vs SYSLOG

... and also messages after JES2 ended and SYSLOG was closed. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Anthony Thompson Sent: 19 August, 2016 8:40 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OPERLOG vs SYSLOG More

Re: LOAD VTAM Logmode Table

??? Using HOD. On 8/18/2016 9:44 PM, Rob Schramm wrote: Tn3270? Rob Schramm On Thu, Aug 18, 2016, 6:37 PM Jon Bathmaker < jon.bathma...@sys1consulting.com> wrote: Hi, I am a VTAM usedtobe (in 1995) trying to get VTAM to load a new logmode table, EMSMODE, into its tiny little mind so that I

Re: OPERLOG vs SYSLOG

More significant for us was the ability to look at any system's log via SDSF from any other system in the 'plex (we're not MASPOOL). Also the ability to diagnose IPL errors from another system by being able to scroll through and eyeball the problem system's IPL messages prior to its JES