Re: LzLabs in ComputerWorld

2016-12-12 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 12/12/2016 8:17 PM, Phil Smith III wrote: Indeed. Though ISTR that one of John Moores' previous efforts was a multi-platform security system, so I'd be willing to bet that they do understand the issue pretty well. Wasn't that Barry Schraeger's BOLT? AFAIK, Barry is not involved in this

Re: FTP serialization when writing PDS/PDSE members

2016-12-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 17:11:37 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote: > >What you are seeing leads me to believe that the data set I/O is *not* >occurring while it is being transferred. Otherwise, you should also see >an ENQ on SPFEDIT/DSN (no member), right? > Blocking conceals a lot of sins. If I allocate my

Re: LzLabs in ComputerWorld

2016-12-12 Thread Phil Smith III
R.S. wrote, in part: >I'm rather curious about RACF (security? who needs security?), CICS, IMS, etc. Indeed. Though ISTR that one of John Moores' previous efforts was a multi-platform security system, so I'd be willing to bet that they do understand the issue pretty well.

Re: I/O error substituting symbols in sysin

2016-12-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 01:40:07 +, Anthony Thompson wrote: >Pardon for getting the input wrong. New JCL: >// >// EXPORT SYMLIST=* >// SET TEST='THIS IS THE VALUE OF THE SUBSTITUTED STRING.' >//STEP1

Re: Starting a STC with options

2016-12-12 Thread Lizette Koehler
Look at the JES2 Definition for STC You may be able to set up all STCs to a specific output class, then issue a $RALL command to route to another place to the archival process. $R all,r=j5,d=r7,outd=(w,h,k,l), (other options) >--,D=--+-LOCAL--|--ANYLOCAL---+>

IPSEC

2016-12-12 Thread scott Ford
All, I have a dumb question and apologize in advance for asking it here. We have a LDAP sitting on Windows being sent data , that's encrypted with AES128 encryption . The STC on z/OS sends a 32k packet via a socket write and the customer has IPSEC turned on. We saw a hang of the Windows LDAP and

Re: Question on SPKA and Control Register 3

2016-12-12 Thread Jim Mulder
> There is a preceding MODESET KEY=ZERO. It wouldn't make sense for that to > reset Control Register 3, turning on bit 0 and off bit 8, would it? "You can > set any SPK you want, so long as it is the one you already have." The MODESET documentation says: ,MODE=PROB, MODE=SUP Specifies

Re: I/O error substituting symbols in sysin

2016-12-12 Thread Anthony Thompson
Pardon for getting the input wrong. New JCL: // // EXPORT SYMLIST=* // SET TEST='THIS IS THE VALUE OF THE SUBSTITUTED STRING.' //STEP1EXEC PGM=IEBGENER //SYSUT1 DD

Re: Question on SPKA and Control Register 3

2016-12-12 Thread Charles Mills
There is a preceding MODESET KEY=ZERO. It wouldn't make sense for that to reset Control Register 3, turning on bit 0 and off bit 8, would it? "You can set any SPK you want, so long as it is the one you already have." Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Position available

2016-12-12 Thread esst...@juno.com
Hi I am Interested in exploring this position further I am well versed in CICS and MQ on z/OS Paul D'Angelo -- Original Message -- From: Alan Haff To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Position available Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 15:51:51 -0600 I

3800 printers

2016-12-12 Thread William Donzelli
Does anyone know of any 3800 laser printers still in service? Or not in service but available? -- Will -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message:

Re: Question on SPKA and Control Register 3

2016-12-12 Thread Charles Mills
Hmmm. I am seeing the following in Extended Addressability: "All programs are initially dispatched with a PKM value equal to the storage protect key of the program's TCB or SRB. Example: A PKM value of X'0080' represents key 8 and X'0001' represents key 15. The PC, PR, and PT instructions can

Re: LzLabs in ComputerWorld

2016-12-12 Thread Charles Mills
Somehow if I were IBM I would not be quaking in my boots. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 2:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: LzLabs in ComputerWorld The

Re: LzLabs in ComputerWorld

2016-12-12 Thread R.S.
The solution is a little bit simpler: they don't support binary code. They can recompile some source code using Raincode compilers, but even the source code need to be "simplfied" (read: some constructs are not understood). How does it work? As about references. And *check them*, otherwise

Re: Question on SPKA and Control Register 3

2016-12-12 Thread Charles Mills
Good thought, but I don't assume 8. I do an IPK/STC R2 during initialization. The value in my SPKA register is FFF80 (I do an LB so the high bit gets propagated) so the IPK is working plausibly at least. (PooP says the high bits are ignored.) Charles -Original Message- From: IBM

Position available

2016-12-12 Thread Alan Haff
I work for a multinational ISV and we have an opening for a z/OS sysprog. The system is located in the Rocky Mountain west but relocation isn't required. We run z/OS 1.13, 2.1 and 2.2, and subsystems include IMS 12, 13 & 14; CICS 3.1, 4.1, 4.2, 5.1 & 5.2; DB2 8, 9 & 10; and MQ 7 & 8. The

Re: Question on SPKA and Control Register 3

2016-12-12 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
I don't know for sure, but could it be that there is no assurance that it's key was key 8? There are indicators in the books that programs can run in keys 9 through 15. Chris Blaicher Technical Architect Mainframe Development Syncsort Incorporated 2 Blue Hill Plaza #1563, Pearl River, NY 10965

Question on SPKA and Control Register 3

2016-12-12 Thread Charles Mills
I had guessed that an APF-authorized but otherwise "ordinary" program running with Key 8 would be able to issue an SPKA with an "address" of xx8x in problem state without getting a S0C2. I appear to have guessed wrong. I just wanted to do a reality check to make sure I had not fat-fingered

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: LzLabs in ComputerWorld

2016-12-12 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 12/12/2016 11:50 AM, Charles Mills wrote: Along those lines, would such a product have to/be able to "emulate" DB2? Easy to come halfway close (MySQL) -- damned difficult to do it all. Just ask Oracle. Doesn't DB2 UDB run on non-z platforms? If so, you might be able to intercept the z/OS

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: LzLabs in ComputerWorld

2016-12-12 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
No - just understand the differences in application structures and assumptions on the environment. Jerry Whitteridge Manager Mainframe Systems & Storage Albertsons - Safeway Inc. 623 869 5523 Corporate Tieline - 85523 If you feel in control you just aren't going fast enough. -Original

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: LzLabs in ComputerWorld

2016-12-12 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:50:04 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >would such a product have to/be able to "emulate" DB2? May not have to emulate it. DB2 is available on other platforms. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-12-12 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
Thanks for the thought. It was suggested that we look at FTP+ which is part of Connect:Direct - something we already have but didn't know that feature existed. It looks very promising for what we need. -- Lionel B. Dyck

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: LzLabs in ComputerWorld

2016-12-12 Thread Charles Mills
Along those lines, would such a product have to/be able to "emulate" DB2? Easy to come halfway close (MySQL) -- damned difficult to do it all. Just ask Oracle. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jerry

Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-12-12 Thread Rick Troth
On 11/29/16 13:12, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) wrote: Does anyone know of a z/OS web based dropbox application that will allow a user to upload a file securely and to download a file securely? I remember, but cannot seem to find, RSYNC ported to USS. RSYNC would help on this point, and so many

Re: Why Can't You Buy z Mainframe Services from Amazon Cloud Services?

2016-12-12 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
mitchd...@gmail.com (Dana Mitchell) writes: > Exactly! They are just managing the decline and extracting maximum > profit out of it along the way, IBM (and more importantly Wall St.) > have no interest in expanding the z business. > > I wouldn't exactly consider cloud a high margin business.

Re: Shopz Hung?

2016-12-12 Thread David Magee
What ever it is, I think the same problem is also affecting SMP/E's RECEIVE service retrieval. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO

Re: LzLabs in ComputerWorld

2016-12-12 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Circa 1980 IBM delivered a new version of MVS that issued some instructions that the Amdahl model we (TRW Credit Data) ran on could not handle. Amdahl countered with some OS modifications that trapped every S0C1, examined it, and--if appropriate--simulated the action or NOOPed it. They also

Re: pty (was: TSO Setup on SSH)

2016-12-12 Thread Jack J. Woehr
Paul Gilmartin wrote: I belive that the 3270 OMVS command does create a PTY, but the function ssh uses (tcsetattr()?) fails to mask passwords on a 3270, Ssh is aware of this, so it refuses to prompt for a password Aha. Well, IBM should fix that, and also fix their broken SCP implementation :)

Re: LzLabs in ComputerWorld

2016-12-12 Thread Charles Mills
The only thing easier about the Windows API relative to the z/OS "API" is that it is implemented almost entirely as library calls. There is little in Windows that is equivalent to the control block chasing that is a common and often necessary programming technique on z/OS. Charles

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: LzLabs in ComputerWorld

2016-12-12 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
The problems occur not in the move of the programs and their execution, but in the logic of the application design which nearly always makes assumptions about the environment the application was designed around. Moving the application code without the underlying infrastructure that it relies on

Re: LzLabs in ComputerWorld

2016-12-12 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > I agree, but it must be an adequately solvable sort of problem if Wine can > do it for the Windows API (adequately). > > Charles > > ​You just beat me to that (immediate _after_ I clicked SEND). But I'd consider WINE more

Re: LzLabs in ComputerWorld

2016-12-12 Thread Charles Mills
I agree, but it must be an adequately solvable sort of problem if Wine can do it for the Windows API (adequately). Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of zMan Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 10:46 AM To:

Re: LzLabs in ComputerWorld

2016-12-12 Thread zMan
Um, OK...so it's going to work for the subset of programs that happen to use the calls that they've implemented? This reminds me of early Windows, when it was a shell over DOS: everything was fine until it wasn't, when you'd try something that hadn't been handled yet, and fall off the edge of the

Query for Destination z article: remote system programming

2016-12-12 Thread Gabe Goldberg
Remote system programming used to mean using a keypunch machine outside the data center. Then 3270-style devices allowed increased potential distance -- and hike -- to and from mainframes. Finally, networked terminals, workstations, tablets, and smart phones made location irrelevant. Whether

Re: Starting a STC with options

2016-12-12 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Mark Regan wrote: > Is there a way to start a STC so that when it is stopped that its complete > job log is sent by NJE to another JES2 node. The reason I ask is that we > have JES2 nodes that don't have an archival system on them, so I

Re: EXTERNAL: Starting a STC with options

2016-12-12 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
/*ROUTE PRINT X should work for you but you may need to switch to a "Started Job" so as to be able to specify that line as it should be immediately following the job card . Jerry Whitteridge Manager Mainframe Systems & Storage Albertsons - Safeway Inc. 623 869 5523 Corporate Tieline - 85523

Starting a STC with options

2016-12-12 Thread Mark Regan
Is there a way to start a STC so that when it is stopped that its complete job log is sent by NJE to another JES2 node. The reason I ask is that we have JES2 nodes that don't have an archival system on them, so I want to send the job log to a JES2 system that does via NJE. Thanks.

pty (was: TSO Setup on SSH)

2016-12-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 09:50:05 -0700, Jack J. Woehr wrote: >Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> No "walls", just pitfalls. Should I submit an SR about the "script" glory >> hole? > >Possibly. Venkat cannot be the only person to run up against the limitation of >TN3270 sessions presenting no ptty. I've

Re: [OT] S/370 Archive Footage

2016-12-12 Thread Mike Schwab
Before S/360, characters were often encoded in 6 bits. Even ASCII was 7 bits. Which allowed the definition of UTF-8. On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Bill Woodger wrote: > I never thought I'd see film of "the flick", for manual bursting of fan-fold > paper, on YouTube.

Re: LzLabs in ComputerWorld

2016-12-12 Thread Mike Schwab
Sounds like z/390. Keep the hardware instructions, rewrite the z/OS calls. On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 10:49 PM, zMan wrote: > http://www.computerworlduk.com/infrastructure/lzlabs-promises-end-mainframe-migration-woes-with-software-defined-approach-3645686/ > seems

Re: Frig (was: I/O error ...)

2016-12-12 Thread Jack J. Woehr
Paul Gilmartin wrote: "Frigate" is probably unrelated. ISTR the novel /Up the Down Staircase/ observing that one could not possibly introdcue Emily Dickinson's poem "There is no Frigate like a Book" into a New York public high school English class. -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more

Re: TSO Setup on SSH

2016-12-12 Thread Jack J. Woehr
Paul Gilmartin wrote: No "walls", just pitfalls. Should I submit an SR about the "script" glory hole? Possibly. Venkat cannot be the only person to run up against the limitation of TN3270 sessions presenting no ptty. I've experienced it. But I did give him what might be a workaround to

Re: TSO Setup on SSH

2016-12-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 00:14:24 -0700, Jack J. Woehr wrote: > >It must be somehow doable to use a password, but it certainly wasn't the >architectural intent of the IBM developers. >The difference between 3270 and Unix-style ttys is too great. >Furthermore SSH experts inside and outside IBM view

Frig (was: I/O error ...)

2016-12-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
Please change the friggin' Subject: when you change the friggin' topic! On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:01:36 -0600, Bill Woodger wrote: >Urban Dictionary (one of several definitions) > Without looking, I have little uncertainty about the etymology of many of those several definitions. "Frigate" is

Re: TSO Setup on SSH

2016-12-12 Thread Jack J. Woehr
venkat kulkarni wrote: I do agree that we should be using password less, but as suggested earlier that apart from public key, we can also use password verify way to authentication. So, I want to try this to complete this activity . If it's just for testing, maybe this would work for you: *

Re: I/O error substituting symbols in sysin

2016-12-12 Thread Bill Woodger
Urban Dictionary (one of several definitions) frig (Term used by engineers) To make a rough-and-ready, quick-and-dirty adjustment to something to make it work or to make it operate in a particular way. To adjust manually for a particular purpose. Can be used of a physical device but also of

Re: RFE? SPFEDIT ENQ for /bin/cp and C RTL?

2016-12-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 09:22:14 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote: >I created this one for the C RTL in November 2015: > >https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe_ID=80811 > >Please vote for it if you agree with the requirement. > I voted. I also added a comment about /bin/cp since I

Re: I/O error substituting symbols in sysin

2016-12-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2016-12-12, at 00:56, Anthony Thompson wrote: > Ran this JCL : > > // > // EXPORT SYMLIST=* > // SET TEST='THIS IS THE VALUE OF THE SUBSTITUTED STRING.' > //STEP1EXEC PGM=IEBGENER > //SYSUT1DD

Re: RFE? SPFEDIT ENQ for /bin/cp and C RTL?

2016-12-12 Thread Kirk Wolf
I created this one for the C RTL in November 2015: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe_ID=80811 Please vote for it if you agree with the requirement. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Paul Gilmartin <

Re: Shopz Hung?

2016-12-12 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Thanks for the confirmation, Dave. Not that misery love companybut glad it is not just me. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 10:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Shopz Hung?

2016-12-12 Thread Jousma, David
Yea, I have one waiting in download phase. This is typical of Monday mornings it seems. _ Dave Jousma Manager Mainframe Engineering, Assistant Vice President david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H p

Shopz Hung?

2016-12-12 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Anyone else experiencing issues with ShopzSeries? I have submitted two orders and neither of them progresses past the point of submit status. It has been almost two hours since the original submission. Bob -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: I/O error substituting symbols in sysin

2016-12-12 Thread Charles Mills
Um, the Oxford English (as in England) Dictionary lists the same meaning I know here across the pond. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/frig Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Woodger Sent:

Re: Why Can't You Buy z Mainframe Services from Amazon Cloud Services?

2016-12-12 Thread Dana Mitchell
On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 17:31:32 -0500, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: > > I frankly doubt that the top layers of IBM even care if the z business > (eventually) goes away. Watson and cloud are their new saviors and future > cash cows > (or so they hope). > > Just my

Re: I/O error substituting symbols in sysin

2016-12-12 Thread Bill Woodger
More computing history. "Frig". No, it doesn't mean what those across the water may think. A particular UK-computing term, not sure of the origins, and it certainly "surprised" me when I cam across the use of the word as a 17-year-old trainee who happened to know the "other" meaning. "I'm going

Re: I/O error substituting symbols in sysin

2016-12-12 Thread Anthony Thompson
Just so. But anyone can frig around with invalid DCB's and make any utility break. Ant. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Woodger Sent: Monday, 12 December 2016 7:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: I/O error substituting symbols in sysin

2016-12-12 Thread Bill Woodger
So that would be an ordinary 80-byte SYSIN, data within 80 bytes. Not what Paul is trying. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN