Re: grep ascii files...

On 4/18/24 11:03 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: someone conversant with such languages has posted here that the spoken convention is low-to-high order: "four and twenty blackbirds." Would you please clarify / confirm the example language? "four and twenty blackbirds" sort of breaks my brain and

Re: Technical Reason? - Why you can't encrypt load libraries (PDSE format)?

On 1/13/24 13:39, Gibney, Dave wrote: It should be obvious, but as a practical matter, you can't encrypt the modules that do the decryption and it also follows that you can't encrypt the modules that provide the execution environment (z/OS) for these modules. I would like to agree with you.

Re: Technical Reason? - Why you can't encrypt load libraries (PDSE format)?

On 1/13/24 11:06, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: However encryption is a kind of data protection. Conversely encryption is a kind of data authentication / verification. Data. Not programs. Programs are special data used to manipulate / act on other data. -- Grant. . . .

Re: netcat for z/OS?

On 1/12/24 10:02 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote: IBM ships a command with z/OS: "ssh-proxyc - HTTP SOCKS-5 Proxy command for ssh client" Based on the name, that seems to support SOCKS(5) proxy servers. The (BSD) netcat (nc) `-X` means to use the HTTP(S) CONNECT protocol proxy. See the IBM z/OS

Re: SSH tunneling for unattended process.

+10 for everything that Rick has said. On 1/8/24 1:26 PM, Rick Troth wrote: Clarification on -L and -R ... N.B. the -L and -R are reference to the ssh /client/. This is important to keep in mind when you are considering which way the port forwarded traffic will go in relation to which end

Re: HMC hardware messages

On 11/28/23 2:46 PM, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: Of course ticket creation is another topic. But it cannot be simply automatic creation of ticket for every message, because many of them are just notification. Example: REIPL. I don't know about ticketing systems, but with email, I create rules

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

On 10/11/23 6:39 AM, jgmauta...@yahoo.com.ar wrote: Thanks guys for all you instructive answers! :-) As it usually happens when you try to understand something, new questions often arise and you realize that things are fairly more complicated than you initially beleived. I think that's a

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

On 10/10/23 3:15 PM, Rick Troth wrote: The copy-n-paste point makes me wonder if the fonts are actually mapped to ASCII values. I was wondering the same thing. I'm watching the thread to learn more. I don't know graphical environments well enough to analyze it. But it would mean that, yes,

Re: Compile mod_wsgi Python Apache module

I've not seen any other replies to this thread, so I'll go ahead and send what I had drafted before waiting in the hopes that someone more knowledgeable than I would reply. But, maybe my experience compiling things will get you on the proper path. On 9/6/23 10:16 AM, Oscar wrote: Hello,

Re: Unanswered questions regarding P390 systems

On 9/10/23 3:40 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote: The box you put the P390 card into is important. It's been a long time since you could get a box with long enough slots. Newer technology makes things entertaining. For a little while I had my P/390-E in a machine that was running the OS/2 as a VM with

Re: Unanswered questions regarding P390 systems

On 9/10/23 2:00 PM, Alexander Huemer wrote: Hi Hi, As a proud owner of a P390 system, I've collected some questions that i wasn't able to find answers to at [1]. Welcome to the club. If you have knowledge regarding those or related systems, I kindly ask that you read through the page.

Re: extracting "*.pax.Z" without USS

On 9/9/23 8:50 AM, william giannelli wrote: I tried renaming the file with a ".zip" extension but that made the file unreadable. That's because ".Z" is "compress(ed)" file format which is different than ".zip" which is "zip" file format. They are two very different things. .Z is not just a

Re: Somewhat OT: 3279 front bezel needed

On 9/5/23 8:56 AM, Jay Maynard wrote: I do! And two P/390s and two P/370s for it to talk to. Does that mean that you also have the associated B cards to connect said P/390s / P370s to the 3174? I'd be very interested reading an article about and pictures of such a setup. Even if it's an

Re: Asking questions and learning.

Old Subject: Re: With regrets, after many years I will no longer be following IBM-MAIN New Subject: Re: Asking questions and learning. On 9/4/23 12:36 AM, Brian Westerman wrote: I think even the ones that abuse the list the most still provide assistance from time to time that is very useful.

Re: Firefox and HMC self-signed cert

On 9/2/23 11:41 AM, Peter Sylvester wrote: Hi, Hi, I do not really know what I am trying to explain, but anyway. I've found that sharing what I understand something to be beneficial for multiple reasons: 1) articulating it often helps clarify what I'm trying to articulate 2) it gives

Re: Firefox and HMC self-signed cert

On 8/30/23 12:42 AM, Tom Brennan wrote: I've been told by IBMer's not to talk about such things, so I need to drop out now. Chuckle. Fair enough. I'm just talking about a special purpose Linux box from a vendor to run a vendor application. ;-) I hoist my coffee to you. Have a good day.

Re: Firefox and HMC self-signed cert

On 8/29/23 9:49 PM, Tom Brennan wrote: Just to be clear, I'm not talking about doing anything to the HMC that isn't sanctioned by IBM. I assumed as much. And pardon me if you already know this, but HMC's are really locked down. Well ... IBM took a reasonable pass at making the older HMCs

Re: Firefox and HMC self-signed cert

On 8/29/23 6:39 PM, Tom Brennan wrote: It's those last couple of steps that I assume would need to be done manually on an HMC via GUI. I have no idea if IBM offers a supported solution or not. I would waver that there are some unsupported solutions that IBM would wag a finger at you for

Re: it's all about trust [was: Firefox and HMC self-signed cert]

On 8/29/23 6:10 PM, Charles Mills wrote: Not browser publishers and CAs; ONE particular browser publisher! The CAs were on the other side of this one. Apple may have been the first to the microphone, but I know that other browser manufacturers were writing similar speeches. About the only

Re: Firefox and HMC self-signed cert

On 8/29/23 3:38 PM, Charles Mills wrote: Not true for a CA root. Thought experiment: if DigiCert were to misplace their root private key, would you now be unable to log into amazon.com? (There would be very disruptive long-term implications, but things would continue to work in the medium

Re: securing the trust store [was: Firefox and HMC self-signed cert]

On 8/29/23 3:16 PM, Rick Troth wrote: And making it harder (more expensive) for the attacker (relative to his ROI). Some of it is also about making it more noisy and thus likely easier to detect when something inappropriate is going on. I've heard that some Chinese emperors purposely had

Re: it's all about trust [was: Firefox and HMC self-signed cert]

On 8/29/23 2:49 PM, Rick Troth wrote: When they say "certificates shall only last a year", there's little we can do about it, whether they're right or wrong. The browser manufacturers have power in the browser ecosystem and the ecosystems that pander to them (*cough* CAs *couth*). But

Re: Firefox and HMC self-signed cert

On 8/29/23 2:32 PM, Tom Brennan wrote: Sorry - not clear.  What I meant was that in this case I ran openssl on Linux, not on Windows as Charles thought. Fair enough. What if I deleted the CA key file after creating the one web cert I needed?  That would probably solve the security issue

Re: Firefox and HMC self-signed cert

On 8/29/23 12:58 PM, Charles Mills wrote: https://letsencrypt.org/ provides free automated "real CA" certificates. IIRC they only support requests made using the "ACME" automation protocol. Will the HMC support that? Let's Encrypt supports multiple authentication methods. One of which is

Re: Firefox and HMC self-signed cert

On 8/29/23 12:13 PM, Tom Brennan wrote: I trust your certificate experience.  But let's get back to the HMC issue for a second.  So the only secure way to get rid of the Firefox warnings and red messages is to use an externally-signed certificate (paid for), and I think that means a manual

Re: Firefox and HMC self-signed cert

On 8/29/23 10:46 AM, Charles Mills wrote: Don't want to get into one of the peeing contests that have become all too common here. Neither do I. I do want to have a polite and professional discussion about what things are capable of. Hopefully I'll learn things from you -- I usually do.

Re: Firefox and HMC self-signed cert

On 8/29/23 12:07 PM, Tom Brennan wrote: All true I think, except it's openssl on Linux not Windows. OpenSSL is multi-platform and can run on Windows a myriad of ways, if not natively. Aside: The Enterprise CA can also be done with things other than OpenSSL. -- Grant. . . .

Re: Firefox and HMC self-signed cert

On 8/29/23 10:07 AM, Tom Brennan wrote: And you can specify an expiration far in the future. Remember, some web browsers are capping the limit on the lifetime of certificates they will work with. -- Grant. . . . -- For

Re: LISTSERV Trivia: Deleting drafts?

On 8/28/23 6:35 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: I'll copy/paste a couple lines from: Let's see how what appears on the forum compares with the original: Thank you for the clarification Paul. & To identify a temporary data set

Re: Firefox and HMC self-signed cert

On 8/29/23 8:31 AM, Charles Mills wrote: Just being a security PITA here, but that solution makes the security of their systems subject to whatever safeguards you do or do not put on yours. Remember, Certificate Authorities can be constrained. E.g. it's possible to create an Enterprise

Re: Firefox and HMC self-signed cert

On 8/28/23 6:23 PM, Tom Brennan wrote: Does that work?  In the past when I created a self-signed cert (for Apache on Linux), adding it to the trusted certs didn't work (at least in Chrome).  I still got the evil warnings. I've been running into this with many self-signed certs at work. One

Re: LISTSERV Trivia: Deleting drafts?

On 8/28/23 4:21 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Yes. I see your message has headers: X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.9.0-alpha0-701-g9b2f44d3ee-fm-20230823.001-g9b2f44d3 Mime-Version: 1.0 References:<7241413257405975.wa.paulgboulderaol@listserv.ua.edu>

Re: Shell Level - was Strange results for the PS1 prompt with z/OS

Pre-script: I'm glad that you got your problem solved. On 8/20/23 1:17 PM, Tom Longfellow wrote: I don't know all the technical aspects of SHLVL (shell level?) - but they did not match. Yes, "SHLVL" is short for "shell level". Shell level is simply a count of how many shells deep you are.

Re: Strange results for the PS1 prompt with z/OS Unix

On 8/18/23 11:57 AM, Rick Troth wrote: EXPECT IT, where "expect" means "to require" not "to presume upon". Hold their feet to the fire when the break shit. ACK It's not difficult, but it does count for "eternal vigilance". Yep, making sure that someone / something constantly does things

Re: Has anyone

On 8/18/23 9:57 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: Understood, but vi and emacs are still on my list of software to learn. It's been a LONG time since I've gone through it, but I can say that vimtutor (command) worked well for me back in the day. I've had fun playing VIM Adventures

Re: Has anyone

On 8/17/23 6:28 AM, David Crayford wrote: This joke never fails to amuse me: https://jokejet.com/lady-gaga-tries-to-exit-vim/. I'm as tired of exit vi jokes as I am people acting as if the mainframe doesn't include contemporary technology. Is there anyone left who still uses vi? I use a

Re: Strange results for the PS1 prompt with z/OS Unix

On 8/18/23 8:33 AM, Rick Troth wrote: About profiling, I regularly setPS1='\$ ' which for BASH renders a prompt as "$" for normal users but as "#" for superuser. It's convenient. ZSH shows that as "\$" and does not change it when I change UID. Zsh has similar behavior. Zsh uses different

Re: Has anyone

On 8/16/2023 5:41 PM, Phil Smith III wrote: As Shmuel suggests, that sounds like vi or one of its relatives. The best description of vi I've ever heard is:> "vi has two modes: one where it corrupts your data, and one where it beeps at you." Chuckle. That's good. But there are more modes. I

Re: z/OS users

On 8/15/23 10:12 AM, Phil Smith III wrote: Wow! It sure is. How many of those represent real users who log on, and how many represent real users who access using something else? +1 I'm really not going much of anywhere with this, but I think it's useful info to have to say "This is how much

Please do not attack / insult each other.

Please do not attack / insult each other. Let's instead have conversations where it's okay to disagree with each other while still respecting each other and valuing each other's opinions. It's okay to disagree. It's not okay to insult the person that you disagree with. Grant. . . .

Re: USS Features

On 8/14/23 4:30 PM, Jon Perryman wrote: We don't ask people to follow blindly. Instead, we don't give them another option. JCL, VSAM, availability to specific products and more ensure you are choosing wisely. Kurbernettes containers, cloud and more are implemented by sysprogs in a manner that

Re: Help for US Talent

On 8/14/23 3:23 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: Am I missing something? Why the interest in making life hard for recruiters? Ok, I'm a contractor so my continued employment depends on their existence. Still, why? Recruiters aren't a problem if they are /good/ recruiters. As in they pay attention

Re: The ultimate (another one!) definition of mainframe

On 8/14/23 3:16 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: I sort of agree, but I think underneath we still disagree. I agree that IBM didn't think the PC software was worth developing. And if they had held onto MS-DOS and approached its development in the same way that Microsoft did, sure, they'd probably be

Re: z/OS users

On 8/14/23 9:55 AM, Bob Bridges wrote: If we're limiting the count to on-line in-house users - I'm talking about TSO, CICS etc - I suspect State Farm might have a thousand users logged on at a time (that's a massive system) but a few hundred is more usual in the companies I've worked for.

Re: USS Features

On 8/14/23 12:54 AM, Jon Perryman wrote: You're confusing z/OS with Unix where all programmers are systems programmers who can do anything they want. No, I'm not confusing z/OS with Unix. I'm speaking agnosticly about any OS that will run on the platform; z/OS, VM, z/TPF, or even Linux.

Re: Automount (was USS Features)

On 8/7/23 10:11 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Instead of a home directory for each user with Documents, etc. subdirectories there's a global Documents directory with subdirectories for individual users. Which version of Windows are you talking about. Did something MASSIVELY change in Windows

Re: USS Features

On 8/7/23 9:56 AM, Jon Perryman wrote: It's absurd to allow everyone to do Proof Of Concept on z/OS. Are all POC vital to the business? Are POCs disruptive to the business? These statements cause me to pause. They seem somewhat antithetical to welcoming and encouraging people to use the

Re: The ultimate (another one!) definition of mainframe

On 8/7/23 12:26 PM, Jon Perryman wrote: Was it a smart decision for IBM to sell the software that became Microsoft? Please clarify what IBM sold to Microsoft. My understanding is that Microsoft, an existing but small company, came to IBM and said "here, we have an operating system for the

Re: ransomware on z

On 8/12/23 4:49 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote: You can not run that script remote without the Remote-CE option enabled. And, that option was not available until the DS8870. And, to run it you have to first log in as CE. A password that should have been changed at installation. Do you want to hang

Re: Mainframe Makers.... WAS: Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives

On 8/3/23 3:27 PM, Rahim Azizarab wrote: IBM is the standard bearer in computer design even when it came to laptops, just see how well IBM designed the Thinkpads. I hope you mean "IBM /was/ the standard bearer in computer design". I even question that or that hope you mean close to 30

Re: Mainframe Makers.... WAS: Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives

On 8/3/23 12:47 PM, Joel C. Ewing wrote: The hardware is designed with redundancy to detect failures in components (processors, memory, I/O subsystems, interconnection cables), correct any resulting data errors where possible, retry a failed operation using different hardware components where

Re: Mainframe Makers.... WAS: Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives

On 8/2/23 10:35 AM, Allan Staller wrote: My vague recollection of the CRAY was that is used (at the time) a 370/158 to buffer up all of the data so the CRAY could run full tilt. That may very well have been a possibility. I read that the CRAY used a CDC mainframe a it's front end for this

Re: Mainframe Makers.... WAS: Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives

On 8/1/23 10:26 PM, David Crayford wrote: When you consider that a standard commodity rack server such as an AMD EPYC can support 128 PCIe lanes and up to 8 memory channels I would suggest x86 can handle a lot of I/O if you have the right gear. I think it's important to note that all of these

Re: Mainframe Makers.... WAS: Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives

On 8/1/23 7:20 PM, David Crayford wrote: What’s the difference between between channelized I/O and a rack of x86 servers connected to a SAN using fibre channel driven by high speed HBAs? I don't know. My understanding is that Fibre Channel is an evolution of SCSI which is supposedly a

Re: Mainframe Makers.... WAS: Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives

On 8/1/23 3:10 PM, Rick Troth wrote: Look for channelized I/O, Didn't supers ~> cray use channelized I/O? Also, I feel like there is another slippery slope discussion of what is channelized I/O in this context. then other physical attributes (not just size, not just the instruction set).

Re: Definition of mainframe? Was: Ars Technica

On 8/1/23 2:49 AM, Colin Paice wrote: Your Copy on Write - may be what I know as dual write - where you write to different volumes - usually on different dasd subsystems, so if you lose one dasd subsystem - the data is available on another. Nope. "Copy on Write" is explicitly what you were

Re: Definition of mainframe? Was: Ars Technica

On 7/31/23 12:45 PM, Colin Paice wrote: A volume is a convenient picture - they no longer exist on modern DASD. ACK My limited understanding is that the S/360 or S/370 would probably not recognize anything in use today as DASD. The S/390 /might/ see something that vaguely reminds it of

Re: bitmapped displays [was: Definition of mainframe?]

On 7/31/23 11:28 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: I trust that you know alternatives. Will you describe one? As for how I'm using X11, I'm currently typing this reply in Thunderbird (X11 client application) running on a different Linux system than the one that I'm using as the (X11 display)

Re: Mainframe Makers.... WAS: Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives

On 7/31/23 10:40 AM, Steve Thompson wrote: I just have to throw this in here. IBM is not the only maker of Mainframes. Nicely done. :-) I understand that Fujitsu still makes mainframes. That's my understanding too. Does UNISYS still make mainframes? My understanding is that UNISYS is

Re: Definition of mainframe? Was: Ars Technica

On 7/31/23 9:28 AM, Schmitt, Michael wrote: MAINFRAME: a computer that is larger than a midrange minicomputer and smaller than a supercomputer. Chuckle. pc < workstation < minicomputer < mainframe < supercomputer I posit that we should word smith to be "single computer" to rule out large

Re: Definition of mainframe? Was: Ars Technica

On 7/31/23 6:37 AM, Jay Maynard wrote: It's not just CPU power or number of cores, but the ability to connect thousands of volumes of data and access them simultaneously, and move that data from point A to point B efficiently. Please elaborate, are those volumes separate DASD devices or are

Re: bitmapped displays [was: Definition of mainframe?]

On 7/31/23 9:54 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: A benefit of xterm on MVS (any system, in fact) is the ability to launch a child job with the same environment tediously built by the parent. I wouldn't think that would be limited to XTerm nor MVS. My understanding is that once the current / active

Re: USS Features

On 7/31/23 8:06 AM, Rick Troth wrote: per-user automount does not necessarily waste space IMHO automount is completely independent of shared / separate per user disk space. The thing which is mounted might be a sub-directory of a shared space. Agreed. Also, automount is not exclusively

Re: They are *all* dinosaurs

On 7/31/23 9:28 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: But look at the dates and explain to me, e.g., how z is legacy but x86 is not, how z/OS is legacy but Unix is not, how COBOL and PL/I are legacy but C is not. Oh! That's simple. "legacy" is what existed before the "new and hot thing" when someone

Re: bitmapped displays [was: Definition of mainframe?]

On 7/29/23 5:47 PM, Rick Troth wrote: Xwindows is used by Linux because it had been developed widely and was common on Unix when Linux came into popular view. Xwindows itself is an excellent development. Sadly, Xwindows is way to "chatty" and has other issues. I'm curious to know what

Re: Definition of mainframe? Was: Ars Technica

On 7/30/23 7:58 PM, Andrew Rowley wrote: They do dynamicaly expand. It's not growing that's the problem though, it's shrinking - releasing space so that it can be used by another user. I feel like shrinking is a thing for many file systems. The utility to shrink may not be included with the

Re: USS Features

On 7/30/23 10:23 PM, Andrew Rowley wrote: A low end laptop has 250GB available. How much space should a z/OS user be able to use (to do their job) before they have to make a special request to the storage management group? 10GB? 100GB? Please forgive the ignorant question, but does z/OS

Re: Definition of mainframe? Was: Ars Technica

On 7/29/23 11:28 AM, Jon Perryman wrote: Can anyone provide the definition of MAINFRAME? The ARS Technica article is complete nonsense because the mainframe is a state of mind and nothing to do with reality. Can anyone prove me wrong? I tend to agree that mainframe can be a state of mine

Re: TCPIP Device/Link to Interface question???

On 7/26/23 9:45 PM, Jon Perryman wrote: "HOME" was not in UNIX TCP so z/OS is the only doc available. Based on a previous comment about HOME controlling the IP address that remote systems saw newly initiated connections coming from, this concept is in, and has been for a long time, Linux.

Re: TCPIP Device/Link to Interface question???

On 7/26/23 2:18 PM, Jon Perryman wrote: Take this with a grain of salt because it's been a long time. Obligatory salt dose taken. The order should not matter in my opinion. z/OS TCP has a lot more features than TCP on other platforms. Would you please elaborate on that statement? Finding

Re: SYSLOGD config question.

On 7/24/23 1:42 PM, Tom Longfellow wrote: I am sure that all of Unix Gurus will laugh at my ignorance, but I still cannot break through this wall. A /good/ Unix Guru worth their disk space will NOT laugh at you / your perceived ignorance. A BOFH will laugh at most things, even legitimate

Re: Early UNIX certifications for MVS

On 7/19/23 7:34 AM, Attila Fogarasi wrote: MVS/SP 5.1 in April 1994 announcement letter stated X/OPEN certification was being applied for, my memory is that it was obtained by GA date. MVS/SP 4.3 which introduced Open Edition had NIST certification and some POSIX standards implemented but not

Re: How long for an experiened z/OS sysprog to come up to speed on a new environment?

On 2/26/23 7:59 PM, Leonard D Woren wrote: What those panels should do, but I don't know whether they do this or not, is display the line command as it's executed. SMIT(TY) in AIX does something like this. I really like it. I think it's great for new operators to use the forms to answer

Re: How long for an experiened z/OS sysprog to come up to speed on a new environment?

On 2/19/23 4:27 PM, Beverly Caldwell wrote: But yes it has never been a problem for me. Sometimes takes a little deviousness to make the transfer work. These people think they are so smart but there is usually a way round their little schemes. I feel like this flies in the face of security

Re: HMC and LDAP

On 1/17/23 6:25 AM, Carmen Vitullo wrote: all the local accounts are still available, line sysprog, and acsadmin, sysprog is probobly the only account you can use remotely Thank you for clarification Carmen. :-) -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: HMC and LDAP

On 1/14/23 1:18 PM, Roger Lowe wrote: I have setup our System z HMCs to authenticate users to a zOS LDAP Server using RACF as the backend and has been working successfully for a number of years. I like the self hosted nature. But what happens when you need to get into the HMC when the LDAP

Re: Why email from z/OS SMTP rejected by Gmail?

On 12/12/22 4:49 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: That's a SHOULD, not a MUST. I don't recall whether the SMTP external writer (z"l) generated message-id or whether the application needed to include it in its sysout. You're using RFC language. Remember, each and every email operator is free to do

Re: Why email from z/OS SMTP rejected by Gmail?

On 12/11/22 2:30 PM, Farley, Peter wrote: At this Google support url there are eight different reasons that could apply to the error "550 5.7.1". https://support.google.com/a/answer/3726730?hl=en My bet is: 550, "5.7.1", Our system has detected that this message is likely unsolicited mail.

Re: Why email from z/OS SMTP rejected by Gmail?

On 12/11/22 1:52 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: I wonder whether any old string will do as a Message-ID? There is some rough formatting to it. It's fairly well documented in multiple internet email RFCs. I'd suggest glancing at RFC 5322. The Message-ID looks like an email address, but it is not.

Re: SPF/SE is available for free

On 11/1/22 9:56 AM, Schmitt, Michael wrote: CTC had different iterations of the product: - SPF/PC: ran in DOS, but used special memory management to edit larger files. SPF/PC can still run under DOSBox but not very well N.B. My boxed copy of version 4.0 of SPF/PC states that it is "for

Re: SPF/SE is available for free

On 11/1/22 9:56 AM, Schmitt, Michael wrote: CTC had different iterations of the product: - SPF/PC: ran in DOS, but used special memory management to edit larger files. SPF/PC can still run under DOSBox but not very well I have a boxed coy of SPF/PC. Does, or can, Bonnie's gift extend to

Re: Is there such a thing as JCL to transfer files using https?

On 10/1/22 9:52 AM, Billy Ashton wrote: Hi everyone! You have been so helpful in the past to help me with getting my file transfers working with sftp, and now, we have a manager who wants to explore using https in batch like we do online in our browsers. He thinks we can secure our ports

Re: Once upon a time......

On 8/21/22 12:17 PM, Dave Jones wrote: Now I am wondering if, perhaps, the time is right for IBM to re-consider that decision. On modern z processors, we already have IEEE floating point instructions in the hardware, Linux (a popular options for Intel-base number-crunch systems), and support

Re: Superuser (su) in batch

Drive by Unix comments below. On 8/11/22 9:15 AM, Chen, Ya-Fang wrote: echo 'date' ! su ; echo 'mkdir -m 755 /home/y01' ! su ; echo 'mkdir -m 755 /home/y01/.ssh2' ! su ; echo 'chown -R y01:agroup /home/y01' ! su ; Is there a reason that you are echoing commands into su's

Re: Looking for old (fake) humorous IBM password memo

On 8/3/22 5:54 PM, Phil Smith III wrote: There's this. Interesting. Do you have a document ID? I'd like to find more on NIST's site and read it. Thank you. -- Grant. . . . unix || die -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: Mainframe outage affecting W.Va. state agencies could take 48, 72 hours to resolve Inbox

On 7/29/22 8:48 AM, Bob Bridges wrote: Some of my favorite military authors talk about the dreaded post-battle analysis, in which a board sits on the officers involved and asks lots of penetrating questions: Why did you make that choice? If the enemy had done this, what would have been your

Re: Mainframe outage affecting W.Va. state agencies could take 48, 72 hours to resolve Inbox

On 7/28/22 3:22 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: Belated comment: I got a couple of laughs out of this post originally, but it might be well to realize that these stories are not of failures. This is why we do DR tests. It'd be a failure if you have an actual D and found you couldn't R. So we try it

Re: "Mainframe outage affecting W.Va. state agencies could take 48, 72 hours to resolve"

On 7/26/22 1:34 PM, Enzo D'Amato wrote: The first card probably failed months ago, and no one bothered to change it. When that happens, you are just asking for downtime. I would speculate that people were acting on the 1st failed card in a lackadaisical manner, seeing as how it's probably out

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: "Mainframe outage affecting W.Va. state agencies could take 48, 72 hours to resolve"

On 7/26/22 1:12 PM, Bill Johnson wrote: It amazes me how little most laypeople know about IT and how easily they are brainwashed into believing the cloud will solve everything. I was working on a project years ago when I overheard someone say "I'll be glad when we move to the cloud so that we

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: EXTERNAL: Re: FedEx to move entirely to the cloud [Internal]

On 7/11/22 1:32 PM, Karl S Huf wrote: I would refer anyone genuinely interested in sibling pend to download and review Dr. H. Pat Artis's "Sibling Pend: Like a Wheel Within a Wheel" 1996 CMG paper (available to download at Dr. Pat's site http://www.perfassoc.com ). While the technology

Re: Own your own Z13 and Z16

On 7/1/22 6:20 AM, René Jansen wrote: I want one with the Z Series instruction set. Does using a Lenovo Z13 / Z16 to host IBM's zD or zPDT count? -- Grant. . . . unix || die -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: How to Remove Ciphers in SSH

On 6/1/22 8:36 AM, Gilson Cesar de Oliveira wrote: Hi list, Hi, I´m facing an issue related to remove ciphers from SSH configuration. Oy vey. When you execute ssh -Q cipher I can see the list with the ciphers and I´d like to remove some of them From my understanding all I have to do is

Re: my new z114

On 5/29/22 12:26 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: You could theoretically add wires without removing the board. I've never seen it done and I suspect that it's not safe. I'm now getting the impression that the wires were sort of latched into the board and the plugboard tool was used to unlatch wires

Re: my new z114

On 5/29/22 12:00 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: ObBentPins FWIW, I've never seen anybody re-plugging a board without first removing it. I've read about the boards being interchangeable before. I never knew what sort of connector / interface would be used between the board and the rest of the

Re: my new z114

On 5/27/22 11:01 AM, Joe Monk wrote: They do make 10 gig. Copper SFPs... I assume that you mean copper RJ45s. Yep. I've seen and used them. I've also seen and used copper Direct Attached Cables where the SFP+, intermediate cable, and SFP+ are one fixed unit. This is why I said "vast

Re: my new z114

On 5/27/22 9:41 AM, Mike Schwab wrote: The RJ45 Ethernet should plug into your network just fine. I've run into more than a little network hardware that is only one speed. Especially if it's an early example from a generation. Also, the vast majority of the 10GBase-T network equipment that

Re: my new z114

On 5/27/22 8:43 AM, Enzo D'Amato wrote: Most of my home network is 10GbE, and I wanted to put one of those cards in so I can directly network it to my core switch, but I don't want to order one if it will not activate. Impressive. I am currently working on sourcing FICON storage, and I will

Re: z/PD LE cost

On 4/25/22 6:00 AM, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: And you are correct - in ALL my communications with IBM about the LE they repeated that it was for educational purposes and NOT to be used to create software for distribution - not for commercial and not for open-source. Does anyone happen to know if

Re: HS student with question about small mainframe DASD

On 4/18/22 12:08 AM, David Crayford wrote: Hardware geeks like to buy hardware. It's a bit like asking me why I want to own a Sinclair Spectrum or a BBC Micro when I can run ZX Spectrum emulator in a browser or install RetroPie on one of my Raspberry Pi's! Emulation is just not the same

Re: Sftp Vs connect direct

On 4/16/22 8:36 AM, saurabh khandelwal wrote: Hello Group, Hi, I think, sftp doesn't have any mechanism to find that file has been transferred successfully or not. In connect direct case we get return code on sender ... sftp should give you a return code too. ... and receiver side which

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