Re: Rexx to clone users in RACF

2023-11-16 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 08:04:47 +0400, Peter wrote: >I am looking for a rexx logic which can multiple RACFID based on one model >user ? Doesn't the RACF ISPF interface have the ability to close a user? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: UNIX "BLKSIZE"?

2023-11-14 Thread Jon Perryman
On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 20:14:37 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >What's XSAM? Cite an IBM or general IT source. Tony used the term first and you want to rag on me. It's a lowercase "x" which I take as meaning the group of Sequential Access Methods (e.g. QSAM, BSAM, VSAM, ...).

Re: UNIX "BLKSIZE"?

2023-11-14 Thread Jon Perryman
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 19:09:26 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: >Not all z/OS UNIX filesystems are VSAM linear datasets, nor do such >datasets directly match the UNIX file semantics. ZFS and HFS are filesystems, not files so why would they match UNIX file semantics? Files in z/OS filesystems match

Re: RACF, the FACILITY class, and z/XDC

2023-11-13 Thread Jon Perryman
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 13:30:56 -0500, David Cole wrote: >so while creating a "$XDC" class perhaps might be "easy", to >paraphrase Peter, why would I make a customer do that when I don't have to... > >So thank you to those who tipped me off about the XFACILIT. It sounds >perfect for my needs.

Re: UNIX "BLKSIZE"?

2023-11-13 Thread Jon Perryman
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 09:11:19 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >>On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 01:10:14 -0600, Jon Perryman wrote: >>z/OS Unix filesystems are linear datasets. >No. BLKSIZE is not ignored. Incorrect, BLKSIZE has no meaning for VSAM linear datasets. By definition, "

Re: erroneous BLS18100I message

2023-11-13 Thread Jon Perryman
On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 22:35:12 -0500, Joseph Reichman wrote: >I got the following message tracing VERBX routine under TEST >BLS18100I ASID(X'0040') 01EF_8550 not available > >Yet when I do the following running IPCS from the TSO command prompt > LIST 01EF_8550. ASID(X'0040') LENGTH(X'64')

Re: unable to access IPCS 64 bit storage using Storage map service

2023-11-12 Thread Jon Perryman
On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 21:34:57 -0500, Joseph Reichman wrote: >In IPCS I did a list subcommand from the value of double word value in >TSTAUVCT and it had the values I was expecting however using storage map >services I get zeros in the area pointed to by XMSPBUF My suggestion would be to start

Re: UNIX "BLKSIZE"?

2023-11-12 Thread Jon Perryman
On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 21:44:51 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >Suppose I am writing with QSAM/BSAM to a UNIX file allocated >RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,FILEDATA=BINARY,PATH=... >Should I specify: >o BLKSIZE=80 for minimum latency for other jobs doing "tail -f"? z/OS Unix filesystems are linear datasets.

Re: Is True Skip-Sequential Processing Possible with RECFM=FB,DSORG=PS?

2023-11-12 Thread Jon Perryman
On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 18:43:18 -0600, Michael Oujesky wrote: >Does seek() actually do a direct access? Or read, but skip the >records from the start of the file? seek() only reads the physical record containing the byte position. This is also true on Unix where physical records are called

Re: IPCS verb to format the pending RESMGR requests

2023-11-06 Thread Jon Perryman
On Sun, 5 Nov 2023 14:44:06 +0200, Binyamin Dissen wrote: >For example, it appears that ASSBRMA is pointing to the address space level >blocks, but It isn't obvious to me what the block looks like. Since no one has given you anything about RESMGR (and IPCS formatting), here's my perspective

Re: IBM APAR Names

2023-11-04 Thread Jon Perryman
On Sat, 4 Nov 2023 07:19:49 -0500, Bruce Hewson wrote: >APARs for me are OAx or PHx - these are the entries describing a >problem, and may be associates as Error Holds to existing PTFs. The broader point that needs to be addressed is the purpose of an APAR. Since ++APAR are rarely

Re: IBM APAR Names

2023-11-04 Thread Jon Perryman
On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 23:12:08 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >"Standard"? Cite. Does IBM state that component codes prefix SYSMOD IDs. I never said it was an IBM standard. I said standard vendor practice. Maybe common vendor practice would have been clearer. Vendor PTF's I've seen have 3

Re: APAR theology (was: IBM APAR Names)

2023-11-04 Thread Jon Perryman
On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 22:24:02 -0400, Doug wrote: > SMPE claims to be the all knowing wizard but won’t do the resolution. SMP/e is not (nor ever claimed) to be the all knowing wizard. It is a tool used by IBM and vendors for keeping your z/OS problem free. It does not resolve problems. It simply

Re: APAR theology (was: IBM APAR Names)

2023-11-04 Thread Jon Perryman
On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 20:51:44 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote: > I�m interested in how this works. This must be discussed in the bigger picture of problem management and the processes involved. Think about problems your child experiences. Your problem resolution processes for your child will be

Re: IBM APAR Names

2023-11-03 Thread Jon Perryman
On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 17:35:10 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >Grrr. IBM's registered component prefixes govern program objects, etc., but >not SYSMODs. The best we could do was choose an unlikely prefix. What were you thinking! All IBM PTF's & APARs begin with XX#. Unless you unwisely chose a

Re: IBM APAR Names

2023-11-03 Thread Jon Perryman
On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 19:44:32 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >>W dniu 03.11.2023 o 17:32, Shaffer, Terri pisze:ry >> Can anyone give me the secret decoder >> I know AHx went to PHx I think you misunderstand APARs because you question doesn't make sense. 1. APARs are PTFs that are very

Re: GG22-9036

2023-11-02 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 14:05:16 GMT, esst...@juno.com wrote: >.Does anyone know if there is a version of GG22-9036 available via the >Internet? > GG22-9036Services Required for an Event Driven Program > Is there an updated version of this publication. I think you want information about

Re: ATTACHing a task in an arbitrary key

2023-11-02 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 14:56:33 +0200, Binyamin Dissen wrote:.. >I see there is support for specifically key 9 (which also requires SZERO=NO) >Tried attaching DISP=NO KEY=NINE,SZERO=NO, altering TCBPKF and it seems OK. Key 9 is used for CICS user modules to keep them from fatally damaging CICS

Re: Cloud Storage

2023-10-31 Thread Jon Perryman
On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 08:48:03 +0800, David Crayford wrote: > Sorry, OMEGAMON is a Rocket product. I know that because I work on it. > So is SDSF, RMF, DB2 utilities, DB2 connect, IMS tools etc, etc. > IBM have the core subsystems but the critical tools are owned by vendors. It's sad that IBM is

Re: SCHEDIRB Jon Perryman is correct re-linked as AC=1 no ABEND ON SVC 8

2023-10-31 Thread Jon Perryman
On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 23:15:44 +, Doug Fuerst wrote: >I am not OK with any of it, and after Mr. Johnson, I suspect the list is >not as well. I'm also not ok with this but it's Crayford you should be calling out. By ignoring his insults the first couple of times, I showed far more respect

Re: SCHEDIRB Jon Perryman is correct re-linked as AC=1 no ABEND ON SVC 8

2023-10-31 Thread Jon Perryman
On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 21:53:36 +, Doug Fuerst wrote: >Did we just trade Bill Johnson for Jon Perryman? Are you two related? We >are back to backbiting and insults. >Can we just stop? If I'm showing a pattern of being confused or being constantly wrong (as claimed by Crayford), pl

Re: SCHEDIRB Jon Perryman is correct re-linked as AC=1 no ABEND ON SVC 8

2023-10-31 Thread Jon Perryman
On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 14:35:45 +, Peter Relson wrote: > As this related to a purported need to link with AC=1, > I was perfectly sure that that was not correct. And I remain so. Is it truly a coincidence that this group failed in 1 week to solve a simple SCHEDIRB and LOAD failing when

Re: Cloud Storage

2023-10-31 Thread Jon Perryman
On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 16:51:42 +0800, David Crayford wrote: > I think you’re confused again John. To the contrary, it is you again who is confused. > IBM don’t own the vast majority of the z/OS products they sell. > They are either developed by vendors or have been sold to vendors. > This has

Re: Cloud Storage

2023-10-30 Thread Jon Perryman
On Fri, 27 Oct 2023 16:35:39 +0100, Jack Zukt wrote: >Is there anyone out there using cloud storage for backup or dataset >migration, using IBM Cloud Tape Connector for z/OS or Model9? I did a quick search and found an IBM presentation

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-30 Thread Jon Perryman
On Sun, 29 Oct 2023 15:51:11 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 17:08:27 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote: > >>In my tests, symlinks (mklink command) needs admin auth to create. That >>would scare people I think. >> >??? Feels like a silly restriction. Is there a reason for it?

Re: Assembler access to USS functions

2023-10-30 Thread Jon Perryman
On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 08:59:28 +0800, David Crayford wrote: > there has been some absolute tosh spouted! > It’s dependent on the OS. On Linux environment variables are stored in the > proc file system, /proc//environ. > Whoever stated it’s part of the C runtime doesn’t know what they’re talking

Re: Does z/VM have a product/tool which can send backup to the Cloud ?

2023-10-30 Thread Jon Perryman
On Fri, 27 Oct 2023 11:29:03 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >> On 26 Oct 2023, at 1:48 pm, Timothy Sipples wrote: >> Jon Perryman wrote: >>> Googles cloud backup/recovery is very different from IBM z/OS >> You headed off on a tangent here that I don’t think I encour

Re: IBM exits and MetalC

2023-10-30 Thread Jon Perryman
to me once the OPs problem has been solved. It's a little late but here's my response about his false claims about IBM exits and MetalC. > On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 11:04:49 +0800, David Crayford > wrote: >> On 25/8/2023 2:05 am, Jon Perryman wrote: >> For instance, you don't ha

Re: Does z/VM have a product/tool which can send backup to the Cloud ?

2023-10-25 Thread Jon Perryman
On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 19:15:06 +, Jousma, David wrote: >So the issue of using public cloud storage is a question you have to answer >for yourself. > “How quickly do I need to be able to restore?” If its TB of data, streaming > in at network speed, > that could be days or weeks. Will

Re: Does z/VM have a product/tool which can send backup to the Cloud ?

2023-10-25 Thread Jon Perryman
On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 21:27:10 +0300, Itschak Mugzach wrote: > We backup our servers to Amazon S3 and wrong the protocols > ourselves, so it is possible. Hi Itschak, Can you give a very short overview of how your solution works. Which cloud API's you used? Is it z/OS, z/VM or z/VSE? Is it

Re: Does z/VM have a product/tool which can send backup to the Cloud ?

2023-10-25 Thread Jon Perryman
On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 06:23:25 +, Timothy Sipples wrote: >Jon Perryman wrote: >> Since there are lots of reasons, can you name 3 beyond those I mentioned? >> (backup to cloud) >How about everything else works this way (including z/OS), Googles cloud backup/recovery is v

Re: Does z/VM have a product/tool which can send backup to the Cloud ?

2023-10-25 Thread Jon Perryman
On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 10:08:20 +0300, Arye Shemer wrote: > one of the most important reason is the >time frame that should be immediately (preferably tomorrow :-) ). One very important detail I did not mention is the location of your data in the cloud. You may connect to a cloud location

Re: Does z/VM have a product/tool which can send backup to the Cloud ?

2023-10-24 Thread Jon Perryman
On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 09:52:26 +0300, Arye Shemer wrote: >the standard existing backup policies (ex: taking copies to another remote >site in this country) are not sufficient. >Hence the idea of backup to another geographical (cloud) area is raised. I believe you are saying that you want offsite

Re: Does z/VM have a product/tool which can send backup to the Cloud ?

2023-10-24 Thread Jon Perryman
On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 04:38:40 +, Timothy Sipples wrote: >> Why would anyone want to do z/VM backups to a cloud? >There are lots of great reasons to do that! Since there are lots of reasons, can you name 3 beyond those I mentioned? "Save money? Offsite backup? It's new technology? Don't

Re: AMODE was: Why do all entry points have to be in the same class?

2023-10-23 Thread Jon Perryman
entry prolog clearly expects to be running AMODE(31) > >Eric Rossman > >-Original Message- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of >Jon Perryman >Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 4:45 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: AMODE was:

Re: Does z/VM have a product/tool which can send backup to the Cloud ?

2023-10-23 Thread Jon Perryman
On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 16:19:20 +0300, Arye Shemer wrote: >Only a solution built on software running in z/VM would be accepted by the >customer. Why has your customer decided z/VM backup via the cloud? Save money? Offsite backup? It's new technology? Don't need to worry because it's the cloud?

Re: AMODE was: Why do all entry points have to be in the same class?

2023-10-23 Thread Jon Perryman
On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 12:37:30 +, Eric D Rossman wrote: >MEMBER NAME: xx01 MAIN ENTRY POINT: >LIBRARY: LIBIN AMODE OF MAIN ENTRY POINT: 31 >** ALIASES ** ENTRY POINTAMODE > xx02 00x0

Re: Why do all entry points have to be in the same class?

2023-10-23 Thread Jon Perryman
On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 14:21:55 +, Schmitt, Michael wrote: >And C_CODE doesn't mean COBOL or LE. As far as I know, it just means Compiler >Code, > which could be any compiler, including one that doesn't use LE. My guess is that C_CODE came into existence when IBM wrote the IBM C / C++

Re: DVIPA question

2023-10-23 Thread Jon Perryman
On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 11:51:04 +, Allan Staller wrote: >I agree, the secondary application must be running on the other LPAR. Don't say "must" because every situation is different and every situation has defined limitations. The OP said their app cannot run in standby mode. The majority of

Re: AMODE was: Why do all entry points have to be in the same class?

2023-10-22 Thread Jon Perryman
On Sun, 22 Oct 2023 14:55:20 +, Peter Relson wrote: >>Jon P wrote >> Mixed AMODE load modules is a bad thing and very rarely needed. > >I disagree. It's not a "bad thing". There's nothing wrong with switching >AMODE when needed. AMODE switching is not being discussed. The OP is

AMODE was: Why do all entry points have to be in the same class?

2023-10-21 Thread Jon Perryman
On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 21:54:48 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >Long ago, I had a similar question about AMODE. > Alas, AMODE applied to an entire CSECT, not to individual ENTRY points. It sounds like you don't understand AMODE. I don't think that AMODE 24 in assembler does anything more useful

Re: Does z/VM have a product/tool which can send backup to the Cloud ?

2023-10-21 Thread Jon Perryman
On Sat, 21 Oct 2023 08:17:43 +0300, Arye Shemer wrote: >we thought about this solution (TS7700), but customer requirements > are: solution must be software in the z/VM environment (no z/OS or other > guests), Out of curiosity, what software is missing from z/VM that is a showstopper?

Re: Why do all entry points have to be in the same class?

2023-10-20 Thread Jon Perryman
On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 16:38:54 +, Schmitt, Michael wrote: > main module entry point is assembler (CLASS B_TEXT) > and the alternate entry I wanted was to IBM Enterprise COBOL for z/OS v6 > (CLASS C_CODE). > >This is not permitted. *why* do all entry points have to be in the same class? > I

Re: Can someone provide me with information on the DPSS subsystem

2023-10-20 Thread Jon Perryman
On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 11:20:00 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: >Don't see references to DD SUBSYS . SYSOUT= by it's very nature is directed to a subsystem. Typically, it would be JES2 or JES3 but it could just as easily be DPSS.

Re: DVIPA question

2023-10-20 Thread Jon Perryman
On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 11:55:17 +, Allan Staller wrote: > The difference iis n starting/stopping the application is a service > interruption to the end user. > The DVIPA activate/deactivate would be seamless to the end user DVIPA activate/deactivate isn't seamless. First, it would require the

Re: DVIPA question

2023-10-20 Thread Jon Perryman
FYI, this is more than the OP needs to know to solve his problem. On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 06:06:33 -0500, John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote: >Correct, it's not a "full router", it can route traffic to a specific LPAR if >the IP address as been registered. IBM says "not a full router" because they

Re: DVIPA question

2023-10-19 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 06:59:43 -0500, John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote: >There is a Share presentation called "Getting the most out of your OSA (Opens >Systems Adapter)" > that does a much better job of describing how the OSA works than I can. I only did a quick scan of the presentation. It says

Re: DVIPA question

2023-10-19 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 12:08:04 +, Allan Staller wrote: >That is not correct. The DVIPA and be started/stopped in a specific TCPIP >instance. >IIRC, the commad is something like V TCPIP,,SYSPLEX,ACTIVATE,DVIPA=xx.xx.xx.xx >There is also a DEACTIVATE parameter as well. John Giltner says he

Re: Programatically setting JCL symbols

2023-10-19 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 16:25:23 +, Farley, Peter wrote: >System-wide named tokens will survive between batch steps, but may require >authorized code to create and delete them. The OP is now talking about system symbols which will also be protected. If incorrectly protected, changing

Re: Programatically setting JCL symbols

2023-10-19 Thread Jon Perryman
Namedtokens is designed for what you are describing. On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 09:17:34 -0500, Charles Hardee wrote: >Program A executes and sets a global symbol to a certain value and >terminates. >Many other jobs execute and, in each one, as needed, the programs check to >see if the global symbol

Re: DVIPA question

2023-10-18 Thread Jon Perryman
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 17:18:33 +, Allan Staller wrote: >Agreed, however it seems the OP is operating in a "toggle-plex" i.e. either >LPAR A is running or LPARB is running. In this case, the DVIPA would be >deactivated on one of the LPARS and switched manually via the V TCPIP command >to

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Jon Perryman
Point taken about the problems. If you don't want the CMD screen popping up, then change the shortcut to run minimized. Have you thought about generating a word document with hyperlinks to each of the manuals without path. Save the word document as a PDF in the same directory as the manuals.

Re: DVIPA question

2023-10-18 Thread Jon Perryman
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 11:50:21 -0500, John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote: >When TCPIP on z/OS allocates a IP address that address is registered in the >OSA > so that the OSA has a list of every IP address that is open and which LPAR it > is opened on. This tells us that in addition to SNA, the OSA

Re: Programatically setting JCL symbols

2023-10-18 Thread Jon Perryman
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 18:31:11 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote: >Write a program that outputs a JOB with the desired JCL and variables. >Some automation programs can modify JCL in a library when it submits >it. There are many problems with this solution because we are making assumptions about the

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-18 Thread Jon Perryman
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 11:02:15 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote: >On 10/18/2023 9:53 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: >> Can windows shortcuts use relative paths? > >Maybe, but it doesn't work for me on Win 10: Symlinks (hard or soft) is an alternative to using shortcuts. Environment variables are allowed in

Re: Programatically setting JCL symbols

2023-10-18 Thread Jon Perryman
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 16:18:05 -0500, Charles Hardee wrote: >Is there a mechanism for setting a JCL type variable from within a program? > >In other words, I would like to do this: > >// SET XYZ='ABC and DEF' > >from within a program. You're asking for a solution to a problem that we don't

Re: What is in SVCDUMP RTCT

2023-10-17 Thread Jon Perryman
On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 12:03:37 +, Peter Relson wrote: >Joe R wrote > >Trying to access via assembler storage access jesssct I got a RC 4 > > >Why is this a surprise? You didn't ask for the dump to include CSA; it didn't. Joe never said what problem he wants to resolve. Since he already knew

Re: DVIPA question

2023-10-17 Thread Jon Perryman
On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 08:45:52 +1300, Laurence Chiu wrote: >That is exactly the situation, The second LPAR will be on the same CEC as >the first, share OSA adapters and be in a sysplex with XCF being the >mechanism to share the VIPA information. Since I've never seen an OSA, I must assume that

Re: DVIPA question

2023-10-17 Thread Jon Perryman
On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 16:00:56 +1300, Laurence Chiu wrote: >We have one LPAR with static IP You are saying: LPAR 1 has static IP address 192.168.40.70 LPAR 2 has static IP address 192.168.40.71 > and a server on that LPAR "on that LPAR" is wrong. You actually mean: You have a server

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-16 Thread Jon Perryman
On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 21:17:14 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >On other browsers target=_blank opens a new tab, and I saw a message > to the effect that there is no way around it. On my personal machines I can > just > use Chrome or Firefox, but my work laptop is locked down and I can only use >

Re: z/OS 3.1 documentation

2023-10-16 Thread Jon Perryman
On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 09:12:25 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote: >I don't really use Edge, but like Chrome, there's an option for either >downloading the file or viewing in the browser. I just did this just >now in Edge: My guess is that MS Edge setting "Always download PDF files" has been turned on.

IPCS beginners primer WAS: IPCS and Rexx

2023-10-16 Thread Jon Perryman
On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 22:57:18 -0500, Bruce Hewson wrote: >A replacement STORAGE function for use in IPCS:- For IPCS beginners, I strongly encourage learning a few basics IPCS subcommands before taking code from others or writing IPCS REXX / IPCS exits. The large number of IPCS subcommands and

Re: System Z Enthusiasts discord (yes - Z folks do use discord)

2023-10-16 Thread Jon Perryman
On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 09:00:22 -0400, Rick Troth wrote: >I much prefer interaction via email. >Would love to see platforms like Discord support that mode of >communication. I heard that Discord was designed for interactive gamer communications. What they call email digest is actually a list of

Re: DVIPA question

2023-10-16 Thread Jon Perryman
You're confusing dynamic IP addresses with dynamic VIPA. I've never seen DVIPA use dynamic IP addresses. A static IP address is an address that doesn't change. Many people incorrectly assume it's assigned to a specific machine. You decide how this IP address is used. Talk with your IBM

Re: What is in SVCDUMP RTCT

2023-10-16 Thread Jon Perryman
I can't remember how I determined partial dumps from the dump. When customers supplied syslog, I looked for complete / incomplete dump message. I think SUMDUMP is closer to what Joeseph wants. If I remember correctly, It displays the storage ranges that are dumped. I can't remember if partial

Re: What is in SVCDUMP RTCT

2023-10-15 Thread Jon Perryman
On Sun, 15 Oct 2023 09:11:18 -0400, Joseph Reichman wrote: >I was trying to chain the SSCT in my SVC DUMP in my verbx exit > when trying to access storage for jesssct I got a not found > Is the information for what’s in the dump in the RTCT You could easily answer these questions for yourself

Re: IPCS and Rexx

2023-10-12 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 15:28:07 -0500, Jon Perryman wrote: >* Creating REXX compatible control block mapping is fast and simple > using the technique. Instead of coding BLSQ macros, create a table of names > with offsets that the REXX will use to convert names to offsets. > Call

Re: IPCS and Rexx

2023-10-12 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 20:26:56 +, Joseph Reichman wrote: >I just want to initialize with an assembler exit everything I would need to >debug the data with Rexx exec Dump analysis is very subjective and is different for each person / environment. Assembler, REXX or both can be used. For me,

Re: IPCS and Rexx

2023-10-12 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 11:45:48 +, Joseph Reichman wrote: > I looked thru the manuals to create an actual control block > or structure think you need assembler just give me a hint how I would go abou > this task In Rexx Everyone needs to stop making IPCS more difficult than it really is.

Re: Question About IEFSSI REQUEST=QUERY

2023-10-12 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 14:22:16 GMT, esst...@juno.com wrote: >Hello,.Looking at the IEFSSI REQUEST=QUERY - It is recommended to Free the >WorkArea when he request completes -. >Is it safe (as in a good practice) to always release the workarea >when the WORKAREA address returned is non-zero. ? If

Re: SMP/E and PATH existence

2023-10-09 Thread Jon Perryman
On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 15:46:25 +, Rob Scott wrote: >This was precisely the reason for the original implementation of DDDEFCHK/PTH. > >Being able to quickly sniff-test the DDDEFs (across multiple target/dlib >zones) before >an APPLY that might take many minutes was deemed useful (well .. at

Re: issuing a IPCS subcommand from an IPCS exit

2023-10-09 Thread Jon Perryman
On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 10:40:11 -0400, Joseph Reichman wrote: >I would like to issue an IPCS subcommand (in an exit) > >IP CBF RTCT > >2. The STACK service and the TSO/E EXEC command can be used to queue >subcommands and CLISTs, respectively, to be processed by IPCS immediately >after completion

Re: Assembler access to USS functions

2023-10-05 Thread Jon Perryman
On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 01:15:51 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >The issue isn't what has access to environmental variables, but rather what >creates them. The creator is C on the first call of PUTENV. It can be any program which is not necessarily a shell. Of all the large list of shells (e.g.

Re: Assembler access to USS functions

2023-10-05 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 20:54:56 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Even if you have an OMVS segment, > you don't get dubbed ntil you use a Unix service. What is your point about the OMVS segment? It simply authorizes the system to dub an address space. More important, unless IBM implemented locking

Re: Assembler access to USS functions

2023-10-05 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 17:31:32 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >And what if a non-Unix application uses a serrvice that causes dubbing? Environment variables are part of the C language. Regardless of dubbing, environment variables can be added by any programs using that feature.

Re: Assembler access to USS functions

2023-10-05 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 17:20:37 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I'm saying that BPXBATCH is a shell and is not part of, e.g., EXEC. BPXBATCH is not a shell. Most notably a shell language is missing.   > I'm also saying that the mere act of getting dubbed does not cause BPXBATCH > to be involved.

Re: Assembler access to USS functions

2023-10-05 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 15:04:51 +, David L. Craig wrote: >Nobody has pointed out environment variables are a component >of the POSIX definition; thus, for the MVS universe it was >only intended to be what was needed for POSIX certification >and is so only available within USS. Actually

Re: Assembler access to USS functions

2023-10-05 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 11:07:03 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Where do you think process initialization gets the variable names and values? Environment variables is empty until the first environment variable is added. Typically a shell is the first to add environment variables but it could just

Re: Assembler access to USS functions

2023-10-05 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 20:54:56 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Even if you have an OMVS segment, you don't get dubbed ntil you use a Unix >service. Environment variables are not unique to UNIX and do not require dubbing. It is a feature of the C/C++ language that is in the STDLIB (standard

Re: SMP/E and PATH existence

2023-10-05 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 19:09:45 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote: >Kurt Quackenbush wrote: >>SMP/E APPLY CHECK and similar commands verify existence of directories >Thanks. Since I really, really don't want them to get 3/4 of the way through > and then have to go hunt down someone with USS access

Re: Assembler access to USS functions

2023-10-05 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 11:07:03 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Where do you think process initialization gets the variable names and values? Process initialization initializes environment variables from /etc/environment. There is no requirement any shell environment (e.g. bash, csh or ...). Are you

Re: Assembler access to USS functions

2023-10-05 Thread Jon Perryman
if something piques his interest and he wants more clarification. On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 22:35:12 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 22:09:42 -0500, Jon Perryman wrote: >> I believe sub-shells in the same process use the same array. >I believe otherwise. Consider: >foo=o

Re: Assembler access to USS functions

2023-10-05 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 05:46:48 +, Farley, Peter wrote: >Why does any programmer need to care where the environment variables are >stored? Normally, I would agree but XDC is a very special case with very broad requirements. As a full z/OS system debugger, Dave Cole has many requirements

Re: Assembler access to USS functions

2023-10-04 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 02:37:57 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >The shell creates the environment variables. No. The environment variable array is created by process initialization. The shell and programs can modify the array. I believe sub-shells in the same process use the same array.

Re: SCHEDIRB

2023-10-04 Thread Jon Perryman
On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 16:18:24 -0400, Joseph Reichman wrote: >Do suggest when scheduling an Async IRB I have a Wait/Post Joseph, yes you need to wait/post because an async IRB only serializes on 1 TCB (TCB with the IRB). If you do use WAIT, then you should implement recovery in the IRB. While

Re: Assembler access to USS functions

2023-10-04 Thread Jon Perryman
On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 13:27:28 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >>On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 16:06:38 +, Farley, Peter wrote: >>Perform setenv(). Adds, changes, or deletes an environment variable in the >>environment list. >No. Single Unix says:

Re: SCHEDIRB

2023-10-03 Thread Jon Perryman
On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 16:18:24 -0400, Joseph Reichman wrote: >Do suggest when scheduling an Async IRB I have a Wait/Post I only know the basics about IRB because none of the products I've worked on use it. Is async for the address space or for the TCB? In other words, does the SCHEDIRB wait

Re: SCHEDIRB

2023-09-28 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 01:30:05 -0400, Joseph Reichman wrote: Another problem with your code dawned on me. Your IRB routine and passed storage could be freed while the IRB is still executing. The IRB routine only does a LOAD but the I/O time could be long enough for the originating program to

Re: SCHEDIRB

2023-09-27 Thread Jon Perryman
On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 20:29:52 -0400, Joseph Reichman wrote: > Source code below. Sorry for chiming in so late but I've had other priorities. I think you're being led down the wrong path. A 30 second glance at your code shows obvious coding errors. SRB and IRB are the the real danger. Running

Re: TCP/IP to JES3

2023-09-27 Thread Jon Perryman
On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 20:25:58 +, Schmitt, Michael wrote: >Is there a way to transfer sysout type data from a remote, non-mainframe >system, into a JES3 spool? I think INFOPRINT has this capability. Another possibility is to use Unix LPR command to a z/OS UNIX LPR daemon. Another

Re: Obscure Websphere question

2023-09-27 Thread Jon Perryman
On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 13:26:09 +, Shaffer, Terri wrote: >WebSphere however deployment, Agent and Server, said NOPE not doing this WebSphere (like z/OS) is a combination of products (e.g. MQ, HTTPD and others). You successfully moved Websphere MQ. Which component / components are you asking

Re: Testing QSAM SYNAD Exit

2023-09-27 Thread Jon Perryman
On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 15:55:53 -0500, Ralph Spadafora wrote: > My code runs as a service routine in a started task and dynamically allocates > the JESJCLIN dataset. Does JCL now support DD JESJCLIN and other JES datasets? It's been a long time but I don't remember the ability allocate JES

Re: RPMs for installs and Maint: [WAS SMP/E needed for installs?]

2023-08-26 Thread Jon Perryman
> On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 08:05:31 PM PDT, Tom Brennan > wrote: > A bigger problem is Jon says things like this with such conviction and > authority that other people reading these posts, perhaps years from now, > will think they are true. I grant you that M stands for Modification

Re: Is SMP/E needed for installs?

2023-08-26 Thread Jon Perryman
On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 11:17:39 AM PDT, Phil Smith III wrote: > I'm not really going to tell a customer, "I'm sorry, you're clearly not up to > the job > of installing this product. Who else there knows more than you do?" so I'm > not > sure what your real-world point is-IOW, what

Re: RPMs for installs and Maint: [WAS SMP/E needed for installs?]

2023-08-26 Thread Jon Perryman
> On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 09:32:34 PM PDT, Joel C. Ewing > wrote: > in that sense a package is similar to an FMID of a z/OS product; A Unix package name combined with the version is an SMP/e FMID. Just like Unix, a z/OS will have 1 or more FMID. Like Unix, installing 1 of the FMIDs will

IBM 99.999999% availability was: RPMs for installs and Maint

2023-08-26 Thread Jon Perryman
ually needed for some reason. More likely it was something to do with an app that needed to move data starting a new month. Maybe it was being over cautious but it's ridiculous to say this was about z/OS being down. >> On 26 Aug 2023, at 9:55 am, Jon Perryman wrote: >> I think z/OS

Re: RPMs for installs and Maint: [WAS SMP/E needed for installs?]

2023-08-25 Thread Jon Perryman
> On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 11:57:33 AM PDT, Steve Thompson > wrote: > With Linux distros there are a few maint systems. The one I am > most familiar with is RPM. Linux (nor Unix) does NOT have any maint systems. P in RPM stands for Package which is the z/OS equivalent of product /

Re: Is SMP/E needed for installs?

2023-08-25 Thread Jon Perryman
> On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 01:41:17 PM PDT, Phil Smith III > wrote: >> Jon Perryman wrote: >> Do you think we can't write rexx, use ISPF JCL tailoring, ISPF edit >> macros or the many other tools that everyone else uses to tailor JCL? > Not sure who "we&q

Re: Is SMP/E needed for installs?

2023-08-25 Thread Jon Perryman
> On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 08:58:51 AM PDT, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 10:15:59 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: >> Hi Phil, >> You said: "...The SYMBOLS= stuff might help here ..." >> "might"??? -- No! ... "will" > Your approach was similar to mine.  We agree; we must be right.

Re: Is SMP/E needed for installs?

2023-08-24 Thread Jon Perryman
> On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 11:06:43 AM PDT, Colin Paice > wrote: > But this fix management would be done by IBM (or product owner).   I'm guessing that IBM is still on a 2 year release cycle and they still have a custom-built offering so you're not dealing with a lot of tapes and

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