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Regards.
Lloyd
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 11:32 AM
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Subject: Re: Multi-channel OSA-ICC routing and TCP port behavior
I don't have an answer to that. I know what works
I don't ever use SYSC. Hum, I thought that was the 3270 emulation in the
HMC that did not use an ICC connection. (I never use the HMC 3270
emulation either.)
Maybe I am not understanding the SYSC stuff.
Tony Thigpen
Christian Svensson wrote on 7/21/20 11:24 AM:
+1 on Tony's remark - but I
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Brian,
In regards to the '3270' or 'console' setting, that is very specific to
z/OS. On z/VSE and z
+1 on Tony's remark - but I do find the discussions and experiences of the
people here always fascinating and entertaining :-).
As it was mentioned, the 3270 / console setting - I had to use the
"operator console" to get my z/VM 6.3 instance to play along. If I used the
3270 option for the SYSC
We recently migrated to z14's and I was working on setting up the ICC
definitions on the new boxes. One of the docs I ran across pointed out the
fact that there is only one gateway address, and had a nice diagram showing
one of the ports connected to the outside world, and the other port
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Subject: Re: Multi-channel OSA-ICC routing and TCP port behavior
Brian,
In regards to the '3270' or 'console' setting, that is very specific to
z/OS. On z/VSE and z/VM the consoles
And, this is were the discussion has drifted. His original question had
noting to do with the operating system side of the ICC. It had to do
with the limited IP configuration when using both ports. He had it
working with one port, but he thought he was misunderstanding the
limitations on the
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Sent: 20 July 2020 12:17
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Excuse me, but IMHO OSA-ICC is just way to get rid off old equipment
like 3174L. It is NOT replacement, it is only for loc
Westerman [brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com]
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The important thing though is that it works as local 3270, and that's what the
OP wanted to use it for. Since it will work
>R.S.
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>Excuse me, but IMHO OSA-ICC is just way to get rid off old equipment
>like 3174L. It is NOT replacement, it is only for local (called non-
The important thing though is that it works as local 3270, and that's what the
OP wanted to use it for. Since it will work, there is no good reason not to
use it.
Brian
On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 13:17:00 +0200, R.S. wrote:
>Excuse me, but IMHO OSA-ICC is just way to get rid off old equipment
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Excuse me, but IMHO OSA-ICC is just way to get rid off old equipment
like 3174L. It is NOT replacement, it is only for local (called non-SNA)
terminals
of
R.S.
Sent: 20 July 2020 12:17
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Subject: Re: Multi-channel OSA-ICC routing and TCP port behavior
Excuse me, but IMHO OSA-ICC is just way to get rid off old equipment
like 3174L. It is NOT replacement, it is only for local (called non-SNA)
terminals, printers
W dniu 20.07.2020 o 05:47, Timothy Sipples pisze:
Mike Schwab wrote:
Port 23 is standard telnet. Port 3270 is non-standard TN3270E.
IANA has actually reserved port 3270 for "Verismart":HMC Integrated 3270 console
Excuse me, but IMHO OSA-ICC is just way to get rid off old equipment
like 3174L. It is NOT replacement, it is only for local (called non-SNA)
terminals, printers and ...CONSOLES. Consoles are the most important. Of
course 3172, 3274, and other controllers were not the goal.
IBM went looong
Brian Westerman wrote:
>So you are using TCP to get to them inside the ICC, but they
>are technically local 3270 terminals. I think you can make
>some of them printers if you want, but that seems like a waste.
I recently worked with an organization that configured an OSA-ICC TN3270E
printer
Mike Schwab wrote:
>Port 23 is standard telnet. Port 3270 is non-standard TN3270E.
IANA has actually reserved port 3270 for "Verismart":
https://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers/service-names-port-numbers.txt
I have no idea what Verismart is, or was. It's probably moribund,
Thanks Tony, it makes calmer knowing I'm not the only one being confused
about this :-)
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 3:18 PM Tony Thigpen wrote:
> Christian,
> I was dismayed too when I first discovered this limitation. The OSA-C
> was originally intended to eliminate the local 3174 requirement. It
Christian,
I was dismayed too when I first discovered this limitation. The OSA-C
was originally intended to eliminate the local 3174 requirement. It was
not really designed to replace the 3172-003, which is what many are
using it for today.
And, you also need to look back at the OSA-C's
Thanks for the input folks.
Brian: I have it working just fine, the setup was easy as you said - the
reason I started this thread was because I couldn't understand why the
limitations on the TCP port number and the philosophy behind the routing.
It seems pretty weird to me that IBM implemented
You can set up some of the ports to be local VTAM terminals, then you can use
VISTA (or any 3270 emulator) to connect into the ICC port 3270, and use the
LUNAME of the 3270 you defined as a local 3270 terminal. Since you can have
over 100 terminals per port, making them all os consoles is a
Port 23 is standard telnet. Port 3270 is non-standard TN3270E.
On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 10:10 PM Tony Thigpen wrote:
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> Christian,
>
> IMHO: For use as an OSA-C, the second port is of minimal use. About the
> only good use is to attach a local non-routable lan segment so that
> local consoles
Christian,
IMHO: For use as an OSA-C, the second port is of minimal use. About the
only good use is to attach a local non-routable lan segment so that
local consoles can be isolated from your main network so that the
network people do not mess with your z/OS consoles.
Tony Thigpen
Hi,
I have been experimenting with setting up OSA-ICC cards on a z114.
These are OSA Express3 cards with 4 ports / 2 channels. Let's look at a
single channel in this card, named CHPID 200.
These are the configuration parameters for this card:
> Channel ID: 0200
> LAN port type: OSA-ICC 3270
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