Have you heard of Dave Plummer's Primes benchmark project, which is
widely regarded as a reliable way to test the speed of programming
languages? In this test, ooRexx only managed to complete 13 passes in 5
seconds, while Python with numpy completed 6969 passes, thanks to its
ability to leverag
On 3/1/23 06:15, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
As ooRexx is CMake based this should be quite feasible for such a huge
computer company (having so many excellently skilled employees) like IBM.
CMake seems to work well for ooRexx. But I counter the idea that it
really facilitates building of ooRexx
I agree with Rony. I think your ‘benchmarks’ are a bit synthetic but I
understand your goal. I think calling ISPF ‘a relic’ and constantly badgering
Rexx does not serve any purpose in front of this audience, most of which see
ISPF as something shiny and worthwhile (e.g. to have on OS VS2 r3.8 (c
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On 28.02.2023 20:55, David Crayford wrote:
> I respectfully express my opinion without intending to badmouth anyone. I
> b
On 28.02.2023 20:55, David Crayford wrote:
I respectfully express my opinion without intending to badmouth anyone. I believe that
benchmarking the performance of reading a large file is not an artificial test but rather a
real-world use case that we encounter regularly. It is no secret that REXX
Your points are quite compelling. Speaking of documentation, it's fair
to say that most developers dread writing it! While I'd love to create a
comprehensive tutorial for pyzfile, the package reference is already
quite thorough.
https://daveyc.github.io/pyzfile/html/index.html
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On Tue, 28 Feb 2023, at 20:19, David Crayford wrote:
> Utilizing
> package managers to install packages is a fundamental aspect of
> utilizing contemporary programming languages.
The package manager aspect os more or less irrelevant though. What
matte
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023, at 20:19, David Crayford wrote:
> Utilizing
> package managers to install packages is a fundamental aspect of
> utilizing contemporary programming languages.
The package manager aspect os more or less irrelevant though. What
matters is the wealth of add-ons.
(And to my
On 28/02/2023 11:28 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote:
What about Java? How well does JIT work?
Java and the JIT compiler is very good. It always depends on the
benchmark. For some stuff I think it's close to C. JIT compiles to
machine code, and there are optimizations available in a JIT compiler
tha
My sentiments exactly. I spend most of my time in USS and just get used to
crossing the border when needed.
Matt Hogstrom
“It may be cognitive, but, it ain’t intuitive."
— Hogstrom
> On Feb 28, 2023, at 1:48 AM, David Crayford wrote:
>
> On 28/2/23 13:55, Gibney, Dave wrote:
>> LIKE=a good
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The pyzfile module source code has been available on Github [1] since its
inception, and it can be considered the benchmark implementation for MVS data
set I/O in Python. Many people, including IBM employees, have expressed
interest in
seen fit to
integrate it into z/OS or z/VM.
However, for off the shelf package libraries, Perl and Python are
admittedly ahead of REXX. What are the Python and Ruby equivalents
of CPAN?
I've found extending REXX for CMS and TSO to be easy, although
admittedly assembler is mothers' mi
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The pyzfile module source code has been available on Github [1] since its
inception, and it can be considered the benchmark
On 28.02.2023 16:15, Seymour J Metz wrote:
What happens if you change the benchmark to use the array class and DO OVER?
Not much. ooRexx uses references to objects which can be of any type unlike strictly typed languages
that restrict the types that can be assigned to arrays. Any such stored o
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On 28.02.2023 13:44, David Crayford wrote:
> ooRexx has two main issues: its a superset of REXX, which is a subpar
> programming language, and it
> consumes a lot of CPU resources. Each language clause in ooRexx is a C++
> object
is ooRexx, but IBM has not seen fit to integrate it
into z/OS or z/VM.
However, for off the shelf package libraries, Perl and Python are admittedly ahead of REXX. What
are the Python and Ruby equivalents of CPAN?
I've found extending REXX for CMS and TSO to be easy, although admittedly assembler is mothe
You may want to take a look at MIR (Medium Internal Representation)
which is a framework for writing JIT's. It's experimental but looks to
build on and improve LLVM. It supports codegen for s390x so should run
fine on z/OS.
[1] https://github.com/vnmakarov/mir
[2] https://github.com/dibyenduma
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On 28/2/23 20:41, René Jansen wrote:
> Depending on what you test and what you want to see of course. You did use
> the Rexx compiler?
My tests are quite straightforward. I
That is interesting because I was benchmarking it years ago it was only slower
with programs that did a lot of external calls, and all programs with
arithmetic were a lot faster than the interpreter. Anyway, all very good
observations for new Rexx implementations. I share your observations about
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The discussion about standard libraries like Python's came up in a recent
discussion on LinkedIn about REXX, and David Boyes said he was working on
something
On 28/2/23 20:41, René Jansen wrote:
Depending on what you test and what you want to see of course. You did use the
Rexx compiler?
My tests are quite straightforward. I take a 12,000 cylinder SMF
sequential file and read it using different programming languages and
then compare the timing re
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ooRexx has two main issues: its a superset of REXX, which is a subpar
programming language, and it consumes a lot of CPU resources. Each
language clause in ooRexx is a C++ object that invokes dynamic dispatch
whenever it's executed. Unlike
On 28/2/23 20:41, René Jansen wrote:
Depending on what you test and what you want to see of course. You did use the
Rexx compiler?
Yes, and the REXX compiler was slower than the interpreter. I profiled
it using Application Performance Analyzer and it was spending 90% of
it's time in GETMAIN
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While I understand that it may be an unpopular opinion
28, 2023 12:47 AM
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On 25/2/23 01:23, Farley, Peter wrote:
Python on the mainframe is pretty good, but still can't beat out Rexx in
performance even when the Rex script needs to use BPXWUNIX and friends to
access z/
Depending on what you test and what you want to see of course. You did use the
Rexx compiler?
René.
> On 28 Feb 2023, at 06:47, David Crayford wrote:
>
> On 25/2/23 01:23, Farley, Peter wrote:
>> Python on the mainframe is pretty good, but still can't beat out Rexx in
>> performance even when
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> Python on the mainframe is pretty good, but still can&
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On 28/2/23 13:41, Gibney, Dave wrote:
> How many decades have we had System Determined Blocksize, and other artifacts
> of SMS. These details are surely not anything than new folks need to deal
&g
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The pyzfile module source code has been available on Github [1] since
its inception, and it can be considered the benchmark implementation for
MVS data set I/O in Python. Many people
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On 28/2/23 13:47, David Crayford wrote:
On 25/2/23 01:23, Farley, Peter wrote:
Python on the mainframe is pretty good, but still can't beat
the admins there.
Peter
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On 28/2/23 13:47, David Crayford wrote:
>
> On 25/2/23 01:
On 28/2/23 13:47, David Crayford wrote:
On 25/2/23 01:23, Farley, Peter wrote:
Python on the mainframe is pretty good, but still can't beat out Rexx
in performance even when the Rex script needs to use BPXWUNIX and
friends to access z/OS Unix file systems,
I have conducted a series of benc
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How many decades have we had System Determined Blocksize, and other
artifacts of SMS. These details are surely not anything than new folks need to
deal with at the o
LIKE=a good representative existing library.
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a
C++ source data set?" what would you suggest?
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On 27/2/23 06:46, Andrew Rowley wro
On 25/2/23 01:23, Farley, Peter wrote:
Python on the mainframe is pretty good, but still can't beat out Rexx in
performance even when the Rex script needs to use BPXWUNIX and friends to
access z/OS Unix file systems,
I have conducted a series of benchtests, and the results suggest that
REXX
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> On 27/2/23 06:46, Andrew Rowley wrote:
> > On 25/02/2023 8:03 am, Bob Bridges wrote:
> >> Oh, I was going to mention that surely allocating datasets, eithe
/ISPF) that gives most of
the newcomers fits, they seem to pick that up without too many problems. It's
the fundamental system operational differences that make it harder for them to
grasp, at least at first.
OTOH, the VSCode/ZOWE interfaces were (for me anyway) easy to learn and
underst
On 27/2/23 06:46, Andrew Rowley wrote:
On 25/02/2023 8:03 am, Bob Bridges wrote:
Oh, I was going to mention that surely allocating datasets, either in
batch or TSO, has got to seem like one of the dumbest and most
incomprehensible things we do on the mainframe, to a foreigner.
Allocating data
On 25/02/2023 8:03 am, Bob Bridges wrote:
Oh, I was going to mention that surely allocating datasets, either in batch or
TSO, has got to seem like one of the dumbest and most incomprehensible things
we do on the mainframe, to a foreigner.
Allocating datasets shouldn't be that hard to grasp. "
On 25/02/2023 4:23 am, Farley, Peter wrote:
The other issue is CPU usage in today's frequently-CPU-constrained-due-to-cost
mainframe shops.
This is a major issue on z/OS today.
My laptop has 10 cores/12 logical processors. I'm developing on the
laptop for z/OS. I constantly have to be aware t
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Oh, I was going to mention that surely allocating datasets, either in batch or
TSO, has got to seem like one of the dumbest and most incomprehensible things
we do on the mainframe, to a foreigner.
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Exactly. No other system cares about the contents of the file.
On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 3:04 PM Bob Bridges wrote:
>
> Oh, I was going to mention that surely allocating datasets, either in batch
> or TSO, has got to seem like one of the dumbest and most incomprehensible
> things we do on the ma
Oh, I was going to mention that surely allocating datasets, either in batch or
TSO, has got to seem like one of the dumbest and most incomprehensible things
we do on the mainframe, to a foreigner.
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In the semi-famous Logica hack in Sweden - I did some research into the
details, some years ago - the intruders seemed competent to write their own
binary code and run it in OMVS. But they bogged down when they had to
link-edit something; they had a number of failures because of a laughably bad
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Lionel, respectfully I must disagree. I have been using the IBM Zxplore
website on my own time for over a year now for enhanced learning of some of the
"new" technologies available on our mainframe systems, and I have been
c
ional differences that make it harder for them to
grasp, at least at first.
OTOH, the VSCode/ZOWE interfaces were (for me anyway) easy to learn and
understand. Sometimes annoying to use but very effective. Especially Zowe
utilities at a command prompt, the help features are annoyingly verbose
f dealing with non-mainframe developers
> accessing z/OS (programs, jobs, DB2) and an attitude that we need to leave
> the mainframe.
> In trying to leverage our z/OS environment, might ZOWE (and the required
> zOSMF) provide a better transition and/or "access" to z/OS &quo
annelli
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It's a cultural, generational thing also. I'm surprised I havent been asked for
a cell phone app!
Bill
It's a cultural, generational thing also. I'm surprised I havent been asked for
a cell phone app!
Bill
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Just my $0.01 (not worth $0.02).
These developers who want/need access to z/OS and don't want to learn how to
work with z/OS, don't they learn new things all the time - new IDE's, different
operating systems (windows, ma
I agree!
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So I hope you all dont mind a general question...
We have the common struggle of dealing with non-mainframe developers accessing
z/OS (programs, jobs, DB2) and an attitude that we need to leave the
So I hope you all dont mind a general question...
We have the common struggle of dealing with non-mainframe developers accessing
z/OS (programs, jobs, DB2) and an attitude that we need to leave the mainframe.
In trying to leverage our z/OS environment, might ZOWE (and the required zOSMF
I am trying to download Zowe from Zowe.org and get an error on jfrog.IO.
When trying shopz, the login page is in error.
Tried that from several computers. Any idea how to successfully download
zowe?
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A late advertisement, but maybe still some haven't yet seen this:
Be sure to register for the z/OSMF Guild session tomorrow, Wednesday July 20th!
The July session will focus on the IBM zERT Network Analyzer and Zowe V2 +
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Hi, We are trying to install ZOWE Desktop and experiencing the following errors
- APIML 500.
2022-02-17 14:37:52.236 ZWESVUSR WARN (_zsf.auth,webauth.js:364)
ZWED0003W - User=undefined (org.zowe.zlux.auth.safsso):Session authenticate
failed. Plugin
response:{"success":false,"r
Just FYI.
https://www.openmainframeproject.org/blog/2022/02/11/tutorial-to-start-zowe-
in-kubernetes
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https://www.youtube.com/c/BillPereiraZ/videos
There are some/many videos in here you may find useful.
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On Sunday, January 16th, 2022 at 1:05 PM, kekronbekron
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> Yeah, it's just really weird for us syspr
Yeah, it's just really weird for us sysprog types (at least me) to understand
developer-prepared documentation.
It's all "just one click", but of course, there's hours of env. building or
whatever context that is assumed.
In that regard, IBM zOS docs are great.
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Bummer,
I had thought it should be really easy, but they seem to make a lot of
assumptions on setting it up.
Brian
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Your best bet would be sessions from SHARE or openmainframeproject (via their
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Does anyone know of a ZOWE for dummies type of book or directions that covers
the installation for those that have never used any of the parts that are
necessary to install it all?
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Thank you for all the help with this Colin. Your findings appear to have
obvious benefits to both; organizations concerned about high z/OSMF CPU
associated with software maintenance (due to a shortage of specialty engine
resources) and those interested in ZOWE but turned off by the grossly
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If z/OSMF uses a lot of CPU when
IIP, and zAAP contributions individually.
>
> Another item, in the context of z/OSMF resource utilization as part of the
> ZOWE software stack is what I regarded as high EXCP counts when the system
> is idling. Over a 30hr period this translated to approximately 300
> EXCPs/second from
cpu bucket (as I was) rather than GP, zIIP, and zAAP
contributions individually.
Another item, in the context of z/OSMF resource utilization as part of the ZOWE
software stack is what I regarded as high EXCP counts when the system is
idling. Over a 30hr period this translated to
uce Armstrong, armst...@us.ibm.com He
> is the Z Offering manager and has answered my Zowe questions.
>
> HTH,
> Mike
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I would direct your question to Bruce Armstrong, armst...@us.ibm.com He is the
Z Offering manager and has answered my Zowe questions.
HTH,
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I wonder if Zowe is already implemented in shops which are not for
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On 10/22/2020 5:29 AM, Mike Schwab wrote:
https://twitter.com/A_Hermelink/status/1319196681527754753?s=20
@mwalle
I'm looking at a list of recent z/O
Hence “In like Flynn” in Uncharted 2. :-)
Well, it IS Friday... :-)
Cheers, Martin
> On 22 Oct 2020, at 21:07, Ken Smith wrote:
>
> Are you referring to
>
> Z.O.W.I.E. (Zonal Organization World Intelligence Espionage)? They’re
the
> good guys and employ Superagent Derek Flint. Dipicted in t
On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 07:29:11 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote:
Thanks Mike for posting this and thanks to Marna for the tweet. We are in the
process of working on a maintenance rollout . The timing is perfect.
Doug
>https://twitter.com/A_Hermelink/status/1319196681527754753?s=20
>
>@mwalle
>
>I'm loo
Are you referring to
Z.O.W.I.E. (Zonal Organization World Intelligence Espionage)? They’re the
good guys and employ Superagent Derek Flint. Dipicted in the excellent “In
Like Flint” movie series from 1966-7. Some say events therein really
happened. Okay, one guy said it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.
https://twitter.com/A_Hermelink/status/1319196681527754753?s=20
@mwalle
I'm looking at a list of recent z/OSMF performance APARs associated w/
improved startup by reducing EXCP count. They are fairly recent (Sept
2020), so I'll paste them here for your consideration: PH28921,
PH28920, PH28971,
Hi Steve,
Yes, I have since been told and indeed it works.
My problem was not knowing that initially, plus basing myself on the online
documentation example, which indeed shows both download and upload icons next
to the member name in the ZOWE explorer window.
So, all's working. T
File-Save works for me.
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OK, I have an error some
z3
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Link saved. Thanks.
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On Jan 5, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Paul Gilmartin
<000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
>> Do they also despise the shebang? While I spell it Eunix, that's one of the
>> good things about it.
>>
> "Eu" as the Greek prefix meaning "good"?
I suspect it’s like “eunuchs”. https://dilb
OK, I have an error somewhere.
I asked how I can save a PDS member back to z/OS. Went here:
https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=Zowe.vscode-extension-for-zowe#data-sets
The GIF under section "Download, edit, and upload existing PDS members" shows
an example of pulli
On 2020-01-05, at 14:24:01, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
>> WPS?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workplace_Shell
>
>> Pick one:
>
> Why? None of them is relevant.
>
Well, then, make one up.
>> ISPF has long treated the LLQ of the DSN as a file type.
>
> TSO used the LLQ before ISPF did, but
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On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 19:46:36 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>There is no file
On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 19:46:36 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>There is no file type in the PC world, other than OS/2 extended attributes.
>There is a file extension, but that's really part of the name. I wish that
>someone would port WPS to Linux.
>
WPS? Pick one: https://acronyms.thefreedictiona
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Hi All,
Playing with ZOWE extension for MS VS Code editor.
1. How the heck do you save y
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Gil,
Thanks but I think management is going to respond "not gonna happen" when
suggesting that they move all of their PDSs to UNIX.
Besides, that would only resolve the file ty
Gil,
Thanks but I think management is going to respond "not gonna happen" when
suggesting that they move all of their PDSs to UNIX.
Besides, that would only resolve the file type name issue, right?
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On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 08:28:48 -0600, Support, DUNNIT SYSTEMS LTD. wrote:
>Playing with ZOWE extension for MS VS Code editor.
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>1. How the heck do you save your edited changes back to the z/OS side for the
>PDS member which you edited?
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>2. What is the difference between the m
Hi All,
Playing with ZOWE extension for MS VS Code editor.
1. How the heck do you save your edited changes back to the z/OS side for the
PDS member which you edited?
2. What is the difference between the menu commands "Pull from mainframe"
versus "Copy dataset"?
3. Since
https://it.toolbox.com/blogs/trevoreddolls/zowe-now-at-version-10-021719
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On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 17:59:07 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
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>for the code written in PL/S (nee BSL), the optional source has the generated
>assembler with the source PL/S as comments; I found that reasonably easy to
>work with even though I would rather have had a PL/S compiler.
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Ugh! Working
ugh I would rather have had a PL/S compiler.
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; hoping that like CBT and other open source venues to have folks contribute
> and make their creations available via Zowe.
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> Matt Hogstrom
> m...@hogstrom.org
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> It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble.
> It's what you kno
On Tue, 8 Jan 2019 at 16:47, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> > was “open source” if you call fiche open source.
>
> There were optional source material tapes.
For the base it was not uncommon. But while PTF source was, in theory,
RPQable, in the real world no one had complete source matching the MVS
the
For good or bad I work for IBM :) The community is mostly made up of system
engineers that have been building Z products for years. We’re hoping that like
CBT and other open source venues to have folks contribute and make their
creations available via Zowe.
Matt Hogstrom
m...@hogstrom.org
P
Thank you Matt, are you working on something in this area.. ?
Just wanted to hear from experienced z folk on whether the thing I've mentioned
below sounds doable.
And if it seems simpler than zOSMF + Zowe.
Reckon the "security module" for IHSA can even be baked into core IHSA,
that are developed by IBM and are closed so the priority of what is being
worked on is dependent on the IBM development community. Of course they take
input from customers and address issues that they prioritize as best for the
platform and customers. Zowe is an opportunity for the community to
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