Re: Bypassing s322

> On Sep 15, 2016, at 2:43 PM, Gibney, Dave wrote: > > The Cobol of 1981 is not the Cobol of today. Absolute statements regarding > behavior 35 years ago are almost unprovable. Except maybe some Herculean > effort :) SNIP—— But I will bet that a

Re: mathematical infinity (Was Bypassing s322)

Joel C. Ewing wrote: On 09/16/2016 12:44 AM, Bill Woodger wrote: I had been wondering why there were not "rules of algebra" explanations for the floating-point variants of MULTIPLY. So I looked: http://www.drdobbs.com/architecture-and-design/a-conversation-with-william-kahan/184410314 --

Re: mathematical infinity (Was Bypassing s322)

On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:20:59 -0500, Joel C. Ewing wrote: >On 09/16/2016 12:44 AM, Bill Woodger wrote: >> I had been wondering why there were not "rules of algebra" explanations for >> the floating-point variants of MULTIPLY. So I looked: >> >> "The sign of the product, if the product is

Re: mathematical infinity (Was Bypassing s322)

On 09/16/2016 12:44 AM, Bill Woodger wrote: > I had been wondering why there were not "rules of algebra" explanations for > the floating-point variants of MULTIPLY. So I looked: > > "The sign of the product, if the product is numeric, is the exclusive or of > the operand signs. This includes the

Re: CBT FILE672 help

First from 2004. So may be iffy it works. I am not sure any would have this running as there are today OPS/MVS Tivoli Automation, etc. Second from the Assembler code * NETINIT CAN PROCESS TWO TYPES OF COMMAND RECORDS. * 0070 * THE VTAM COMMAND RECORDS DEFINE

Re: Symbols and ampersands

On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 23:37:57 +, Frank Swarbrick wrote: > >Maybe this isn't a real enough situation to matter, but it seems odd to me. >... Also, I was astonished by the behavior of (try it!) //STEP EXEC PGM=IEBGENER //SYSIN DD * //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=(,) //* // EXPORT

Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

Nice one, Tony Tony Harminc wrote: On 16 September 2016 at 16:22, Porowski, Kenneth wrote: DOS was always 'doss' OS/360 was 'oh ess 360' SVS was 'ess vee ess' MVT was 'em vee tee' MVS was 'em vee ess' Except perhaps in "PARTURIENT MONTES, NASCETVR RIDICVLVS

Re: Symbols and ampersands

On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 23:37:57 +, Frank Swarbrick wrote: >We just upgraded from z/OS 1.13 to z/OS 2.2 and I'm experimenting with using >symbols in in-stream data. Here is some JCL: > >//SYSUT1 DD *,SYMBOLS=(EXECSYS,SYMBLOG) >&SYSNAME = >... >The output is as follows: ... >&SYSNAME

Symbols and ampersands

We just upgraded from z/OS 1.13 to z/OS 2.2 and I'm experimenting with using symbols in in-stream data. Here is some JCL: //SYMBTST1 JOB ,'SYMBOLS TESTING',NOTIFY= // EXPORT SYMLIST=SYM1 // SET SYM1='THIS IS A TEST' // SET COPYPGM=IEBGENER //COPY EXEC PGM= //SYSIN

Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

tsicks in Germany same for IMS, one word, no single letters (like eems, but short ee) same for DOS but: zed oh ess (German pronounciation of the letters) oh ess 390 (390 in German) v sam (sam like sum) DB2 (with German number "zwei") like OS/2, btw (oh ess zwei) on my PC I have an old version

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

As an expat Brit that really makes me chuckle, and admit there were more than a few time the language differences tripped me up here too. Jerry Whitteridge Manager Mainframe Systems & Storage Albertsons - Safeway Inc. 925 738 9443 Corporate Tieline - 89443 If you feel in control you just aren't

Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

And there was the time I was in a class in Britain where a female American raised a few eyebrows when the instructor said "should we take a break now?" and she "yeah, my fanny's tired." Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On

Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

We take our bad grammar serious: You doesn't has to call me Mister Johnson. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-302-7535 Office robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

CBT FILE672 help

I'm trying to understand format of SYSIN control cards. I read the $INSTALL and #DOC, but it's still unclear to me. Q1. What is the meaning of column 1 - level? Example 1 CF CICSAAA1,CEMT P SHUT I 4 CF CICSBBB2,CEMT P SHUT I 2 C 003 T P TSO 1 C 005 T

Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

A long time ago I worked at a company that gave a CICS class to the application people and the instructor was Italian. He raised a few eyebrows, especially among the females in the class when he referred to the product as "chicks" == Wayne Driscoll

Re: PDS/E Cobol

On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 08:18:14 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: >On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 02:39:15 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > >>I don't think an 'interim' data set will solve the problem. >> >>DSN(A) --> DSN(B) --> DSN(C) >> >>Whether DSN(B) belongs to SYSA or SYSC, there is

Re: 2FA in the Real World

> On Sep 13, 2016, at 12:23 PM, Vince Coen wrote: > > For me the problem is that it is a Dell product. > > Previous experience with them just leave a bitter taste in the mouth and > one I have no intention of repeating. > > Vincent > Vincent: AGREED. Ed > > On 13/09/16

Re: Bypassing s322

*Where did you throw it? Or did you mean "throughout". Lulz..* *"Threw out this whole thread I have not seen a "snippet" of the offending code. But there had been a lot of theoretical discussion."* *On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 9:26 PM, Steve > wrote:*

Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

On 16 September 2016 at 16:22, Porowski, Kenneth wrote: > DOS was always 'doss' > > OS/360 was 'oh ess 360' > SVS was 'ess vee ess' > MVT was 'em vee tee' > MVS was 'em vee ess' Except perhaps in "PARTURIENT MONTES, NASCETVR RIDICVLVS MVS", where it would sound like

Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

I always crack up in France at wee-fee. (Especially in hotels that charge a wee fee for it!) Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mullen, Patrick Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:30 PM To:

Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

Interesting the "hybrid" pronunciations -- part letter, part as though it were a word: vee-sam vee-tam (sometimes victor-tam, a hybrid of phonetic alphabet and word) bee-tam (sometimes baker-tam, ditto) queue-sam bee-sam bee-pam bee-dam tee-cam queue-tam And those were and are ALWAYS thus. One

Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

I once worked in Montreal, the Anglophones always had to suppress smirks when the Francophones were discussing CICS and DB2, "Keeks" and "Debbie duh". -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Porowski, Kenneth Sent: Friday,

Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

"Ohhh, you can call me Ray, you can call Jay, you can call RJ, you can call Ray Jay, but you doesn't have to call me Johnson!" Grammatical errors were part of the skit --- ken.porow...@cit.com wrote: From: "Porowski, Kenneth" To:

Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

Jeez, its Friday, I was just busting chops ... CIT | Ken Porowski | VP Mainframe Engineering | Information Technology | +1 973 740 5459 (tel) | ken.porow...@cit.com This email message and any accompanying materials may contain proprietary, privileged and confidential information of CIT

Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

DOS was always 'doss' OS/360 was 'oh ess 360' SVS was 'ess vee ess' MVT was 'em vee tee' MVS was 'em vee ess' ESA was 'eee ess aaa' OS/390 was 'oh ess 390' -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Friday,

Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

So "doss" is okay but not "zoss"? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Porowski, Kenneth Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 12:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How do you say "z/OS"? I consider anyone

Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

Legacy, how did you pronounce MVS, MVS/SP, MVS/ESA and OS/390? I never heard "emmvees eisa" :-) Just commeting for kicks (A CICS joke) Len Rugen Metrics and Automation – umdoitmetr...@missouri.edu Myth: If You Can’t Measure It, You Can’t Manage It, but if you have data, it’s not

Re: Virtual Tour of Mainframe Hardware

Oh duh... I was just impatient and clicked before the open-door animation was complete. It's all controllable. Tom Brennan wrote: Nice! I needed to switch to a newer Windows PC (less than 10 years old?) to view. And if you click the back button at the upper left, there are other machines

Re: Virtual Tour of Mainframe Hardware

Nice! I needed to switch to a newer Windows PC (less than 10 years old?) to view. And if you click the back button at the upper left, there are other machines listed. There's also a button at the top right that apparently moves you through a display of the insides, but I don't see a way to

Re: REASON: 3 - RECORD TYPE NOT RECOGNIZED

Was the VSAM1 dataset successfully backed up after the last time it was modified? If so, delete it, rebuild the catalog, and restore the backup to the same volumes. Can you do a LISTCAT of the individual dataset without error? If so, the listing should contain enough information to support a

Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

I consider anyone that doesn't pronounce all three letters separately to be a Mainframe newb. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

On 9/16/2016 11:27 AM, Porowski, Kenneth wrote: I believe it is either 'zee oh ess' or 'zed oh ess' depending on how you pronounce the letter 'z'. Either way is acceptable. I'm not a big fan of "zauce" (rhymes with "sauce")... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831

Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

I believe it is either 'zee oh ess' or 'zed oh ess' depending on how you pronounce the letter 'z'. Either way is acceptable. CIT | Ken Porowski | VP Mainframe Engineering | Information Technology | +1 973 740 5459 (tel) | ken.porow...@cit.com This email message and any accompanying

Re: REASON: 3 - RECORD TYPE NOT RECOGNIZED

I looked at that option but the bad record(s) will be moved as well. On Fri, 9/16/16, Mike Schwab wrote: Subject: Re: REASON: 3 - RECORD TYPE NOT RECOGNIZED To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Received: Friday, September 16, 2016,

Re: REASON: 3 - RECORD TYPE NOT RECOGNIZED

When I do the LISTCAT of the entire catalog it flags the dsn which was also flagged by the DIAGNOSE. The error message is IEC331I 028-002,LISTCAT ,STEP1 ,IGG0CLEG IEC331I SYS1.ICFCAT.UCATPROM IEC331I VSAM1.HARL.VVL000D.MASTERA.SNAP IEC332I GETO,GFL ,ICDV,ACD1

Re: REASON: 3 - RECORD TYPE NOT RECOGNIZED

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1II13354 For reorging / moving a catalog to a new volume. http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.idac100/dffvol.htm New location, possibly updated. On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 12:23 PM, willie bunter

Re: REASON: 3 - RECORD TYPE NOT RECOGNIZED

I tried that and it failed because when you use export/import, catalog code expects you to import using the same name and the same volume so unless you can use the same volser and the same catalog name this will not work. On Thu, 9/15/16, Gibney,

Virtual Tour of Mainframe Hardware

Cross posting from /r/mainframe https://apps.kaonadn.net/4882011/product.html#10/1065;C178 Really nice animations :) Regards, Leo -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: How do you say "z/OS"?

In article <35f7ced8-7f18-43dd-995b-170e28d2a...@googlegroups.com> you wrote: > On Thursday, June 21, 2001 at 2:00:29 PM UTC-4, Mike Martin wrote: > > Is it.. zoss? > > > > Is it.. zee? > > > > Is it zee...oh...esss? > > > > Something else? > > > > Sorry if this has already been beat to death,

Re: Swap between INTERTEST CICS breakpoint and USER screen

Thanks Arthur. You are the best. Mikr Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Cartier, Arthur J wrote: Mike, Try the CORE=SSCR command. Art Cartier -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Swap between INTERTEST CICS breakpoint and USER screen

Mike, Try the CORE=SSCR command. Art Cartier -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Kovach Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Swap between INTERTEST CICS breakpoint and USER

Re: PDS/E Cobol

On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 18:14:29 -0400, Edward Finnell wrote: >I'd use XMIT to ODSN >FTP ODSN to secondary LRECL 80 BLKSIZE 3120 >RECEIVE ODSN * It will have SPACE and DCB of the original If the systems have an NJE connection, ODSN isn't necessary. -- Tom Marchant

Re: ShopzSeries orders change?

So much for my fantasy, John! And I certainly agree that is works most of the time. I order PTFs almost daily without issue (except a nuisance Server Hang/Retry message). Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John

Re: TSO User ID Rules (Was: z/OS and code pages)

On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:13:25 +0800, Timothy Sipples wrote: >Tom Marchant wrote: >>Yes, AFAIK TSO is still an acronym for Time Sharing Option. Big deal. >>TSO was an option for OS/MVT. It never was an option for MVS. > >Of course TSO is optional in the plain meaning of the word... Oh, sure, you

Swap between INTERTEST CICS breakpoint and USER screen

I remember this was possible, but I don't remember how. Can anyone help please? Mike Kovach -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: PDS/E Cobol

You need to DFDSS or FDR dump the PDSE then transfer it and then restore it to guarantee integrity. -- Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor) Mainframe Systems Programmer Enterprise Infrastructure Support (Station 200)

Re: PDS/E Cobol

On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 02:39:15 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >I don't think an 'interim' data set will solve the problem. > >DSN(A) --> DSN(B) --> DSN(C) > >Whether DSN(B) belongs to SYSA or SYSC, there is still the same problem of >crossing sysplex boundaries on one copy or the other. > >The

Re: ShopzSeries orders change?

From a couple of reasons I won't go into, and though I do not know for sure, I have reason to suspect this one is pure coincidence. (The system does "just work" the vast majority of the time, y'know!. ;-) ) Richards, Robert B. wrote: Wow! Send an email to IBM-Main and magically the orders go

New ISPF command - SETCLIP

I've just posted a new tool to www.lbdsoftware.com for y'all. SETCLIP is an ISPF dialog that makes it easy for a user to create from one to ten (the ISPF max) ISPF Edit Clipboards from existing datasets for use during the ISPF session. The dialog has two

Re: ShopzSeries orders change?

Wow! Send an email to IBM-Main and magically the orders go to DOWNLOAD! Thanks to whomever! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 7:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Capture REXX/CLIST software usage.

so just to provide some sample here's what I get from pdsman when the library is being monitored 1PDSMAN r7.70LIBRARY ACTIVITY LOG 25 August2016.238 12:25:55 PAGE 1 ** PDSM17 **

Re: Capture REXX/CLIST software usage.

I have been working on similar thing...two approach I have shortlisted to begin with : 1. write a sample code which does write to a dataset or log as soon as somebody invoke rexx/clist from that particular library...and then check out further who/when/what invoked it and how to clean it up...

ShopzSeries orders change?

Has something changed in ShopzSeries orders that I missed? For the last two days, my orders never go to DOWNLOAD. The status remains like this:Shipped/Download Ready Anyone else experiencing this? Bob

Re: Bypassing s322

Threw out this whole thread I have not seen a "snippet" of the offending code. But there had been a lot of theoretical discussion. Steve -Original Message- From: "Gibney, Dave" Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:43pm To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: TSO User ID Rules (Was: z/OS and code pages)

On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 16:36:06 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 07:01:42 -0400, John Eells wrote: >> >>... >> >>The 7-character length restriction comes from the same source. Users in >>UADS have one or more members in that data set, depending on its block